Rune Iversen
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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin Getting back to one of the OOBs I worked on, the USMC: there was an issue with the Raider/Para units getting M1 Garands before they were offically issued beginning in January 1943 . I went back and made some corrections. Most of the 1942 units are now equipped with 03 Springfields or Johnson Rifles, but I left in three units which do indeed have Garands, starting in November 1942. The reason for this has been documented, and is part of Raider legend. Mid October-November was when the Army arrived at Guadalcanal, and they had crates full of the new Garands. Well, in some cases, these weapons arrived before the troops did, and the Raiders took it upon themselves to "liberate" them. Others traded Japanese war souvenirs to the newcomers for their rifles. Bill Wilder wrote a great article on the history of the Garand, and he mentions these incidents. So, in a few instances, I believed it would still be historically accurate to leave these few units in. Is there any objection to that? Well, it´s a good start, but we are still not closer to solving the basic issues, namely how high the proliferation of M1 rifles were in the Raider units. One solution could be to change the encyclopedia text so that players could be made aware that the unit is unique. Another to remove the Garand armed units from the USMC OOB and put them into one of the scenario designer OOBs, since they are a historic anomaly and therefore not widely available. The third and last option would be to set their rarity rating as high in order that it be impossible to buy many of them (if playing with that option "ON"). But this still doesn´t address the basic question of units using no TO&E gear. How is this regulated by the OOB team? Is it only the USMC that get´s non TO&E gear? Furthermore this discussion leads us into the availability of captured gear, the question of which hasn´t been satisfactorily answered yet. Here is some info on who had M1's......Raider weapons the 2nd Raiders had them most likely around Fed of '42. Some relevant passages.. "The raiders also had carte blanche to obtain any equipment they deemed necessary, whether or not it was standard issue anywhere else in the Corps" also.. "Carlson also implemented an important change to the raider organization promulgated from Washington. Instead of a unitary eight-man squad, he created a 10-man unit composed of a squad leader and three fire teams of three men each. Each fire team boasted a Thompson submachine gun, a Browning automatic rifle (BAR), and one of the new Garand M-1 semiautomatic rifles. " Afaik. Carlsons Raiders were not deployed on Guadalcanal, only in the central Pacific, right? But still, this would entail two kinds of USMC Raider units, which the OOB afaik. used to contain (I don´t know if Erwin changed that. The Carlson raider type unit could either be a squad of 10 men with the option of either having Thompsons or Garands in slot one, With a BAR*3 in Slot two, hand grenades in slot three, and Thompson/Garand in slot 4 (The opposite weapon of the one in slot 1) Or it could consist of a 4 man and two three man fireteams, again with the weapons layout described above. But again, The discussion at hand was primarily about the Raiders on Guadalcanal and their armament prior to 1943. But let´s get everything sorted out. It can only be for the better.
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