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brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 7:52:00 AM

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screens

looks pretty good so far. nice screenies. focuses on tactical combat from a fps style. like Call of Duty, but more squad control and realistic combat.

thoughts?

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 12:09:32 PM

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The screens are amazing.

Thoughts? Well, if they are successful in implementing the game tactics as described, with a easy-to-use and flexible interface, then this sounds gooood.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 2:29:10 PM

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You can download a gameplay movie here, not so good quality. Looks like recorded with a PDA ;). But it makes it looks promising.

http://files.3dretreat.com/repo1/news/broinarms.wmv

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 8:06:39 PM

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That movie looked amazing.

I mean I agree, the quality of the video itself is clearly crap, but the game play looked outstanding.

Due out in October. Which after applying announced-release-date-to-reality conversion means probably Christmas.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 8:16:55 PM

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The hot ticket now is "Full Spectrum Warrior"

I cannot stop playing this game. I bought an Xbox just for this and don't regret it at all.

There is even a code that you enter that unlocks the actual game they made for the Army which has customizible maps, etc.

The best tactical squad level game ever. Revolutionary in every way.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 8:32:08 PM

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The hot ticket now is "Full Spectrum Warrior"

I cannot stop playing this game. I bought an Xbox just for this and don't regret it at all.

There is even a code that you enter that unlocks the actual game they made for the Army which has customizible maps, etc.

The best tactical squad level game ever. Revolutionary in every way.

I saw a TV presentation some time back. It really looked outstanding.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 9:09:51 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Old Eagle101

The hot ticket now is "Full Spectrum Warrior"

I cannot stop playing this game. I bought an Xbox just for this and don't regret it at all.

There is even a code that you enter that unlocks the actual game they made for the Army which has customizible maps, etc.

The best tactical squad level game ever. Revolutionary in every way.

I saw a TV presentation some time back. It really looked outstanding.

I played it at a friends house.
It quite good to be the first game of its kind.

It does have some problems however, enimies (and your team) behind cover are immune from bullets no matter how much they pop up to fire...no such thing as a lucky shot.
Basicly you have to flank them or use gernades. Which I dont mind using those tactics but it would be nice if every onece and a while if somone who poped up to take a shot took a bullet.
The gameplay got repetitive for me after a while. Its basicly moving forward picking off an enemy or two...slide forward another enemy or two and repeat ad nasueum. I expect real war was a bit more chaotic than this.
There are also no vehicles present either. It sort of makes you feel like you a spec ops team instead in infantry in an actual war. I would assume you would have tanks and apc's along for support, but not in the game.
It is however an excellent game to be the first effort. I hope it becomes a series and they keep adding an improving aspects of the game.
I give it an 8/10.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 9:36:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

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ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

quote:

ORIGINAL: Old Eagle101

The hot ticket now is "Full Spectrum Warrior"

I cannot stop playing this game. I bought an Xbox just for this and don't regret it at all.

There is even a code that you enter that unlocks the actual game they made for the Army which has customizible maps, etc.

The best tactical squad level game ever. Revolutionary in every way.

I saw a TV presentation some time back. It really looked outstanding.

I played it at a friends house.
It quite good to be the first game of its kind.

It does have some problems however, enimies (and your team) behind cover are immune from bullets no matter how much they pop up to fire...no such thing as a lucky shot.
Basicly you have to flank them or use gernades. Which I dont mind using those tactics but it would be nice if every onece and a while if somone who poped up to take a shot took a bullet.
The gameplay got repetitive for me after a while. Its basicly moving forward picking off an enemy or two...slide forward another enemy or two and repeat ad nasueum. I expect real war was a bit more chaotic than this.
There are also no vehicles present either. It sort of makes you feel like you a spec ops team instead in infantry in an actual war. I would assume you would have tanks and apc's along for support, but not in the game.
It is however an excellent game to be the first effort. I hope it becomes a series and they keep adding an improving aspects of the game.
I give it an 8/10.

Yes, if you and the bad guys are in cover you cannot be hit. But the game is about fire and manouver.

The first few missions are gimme's it gets much more chaotic and nerve racking later on.

On certain missions you have off board artilley and armor support. But the game is about 9 Army Rangers on the ground in combat. It's not about tanks.

Use this code ha2p1py9tur5tle to unlock the actual game made for the Army. Much more customizable with differents maps civilians etc.

My son was so amused I bought an XBOX he gave me "Cronicles of Riddick" which earns a 9.5.

If this is typical of what the Xbox offers, then PC gaming could be a thing of the past for me.

Between these 2 games, I'll probably never leave my cave.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 10:13:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Old Eagle101

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

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ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

quote:

ORIGINAL: Old Eagle101

The hot ticket now is "Full Spectrum Warrior"

I cannot stop playing this game. I bought an Xbox just for this and don't regret it at all.

There is even a code that you enter that unlocks the actual game they made for the Army which has customizible maps, etc.

The best tactical squad level game ever. Revolutionary in every way.

I saw a TV presentation some time back. It really looked outstanding.

I played it at a friends house.
It quite good to be the first game of its kind.

It does have some problems however, enimies (and your team) behind cover are immune from bullets no matter how much they pop up to fire...no such thing as a lucky shot.
Basicly you have to flank them or use gernades. Which I dont mind using those tactics but it would be nice if every onece and a while if somone who poped up to take a shot took a bullet.
The gameplay got repetitive for me after a while. Its basicly moving forward picking off an enemy or two...slide forward another enemy or two and repeat ad nasueum. I expect real war was a bit more chaotic than this.
There are also no vehicles present either. It sort of makes you feel like you a spec ops team instead in infantry in an actual war. I would assume you would have tanks and apc's along for support, but not in the game.
It is however an excellent game to be the first effort. I hope it becomes a series and they keep adding an improving aspects of the game.
I give it an 8/10.

Yes, if you and the bad guys are in cover you cannot be hit. But the game is about fire and manouver.

The first few missions are gimme's it gets much more chaotic and nerve racking later on.

On certain missions you have off board artilley and armor support. But the game is about 9 Army Rangers on the ground in combat. It's not about tanks.

Use this code ha2p1py9tur5tle to unlock the actual game made for the Army. Much more customizable with differents maps civilians etc.

My son was so amused I bought an XBOX he gave me "Cronicles of Riddick" which earns a 9.5.

If this is typical of what the Xbox offers, then PC gaming could be a thing of the past for me.

Between these 2 games, I'll probably never leave my cave.

I have been playing Far Cry on my PC for several days now. Its the best shooter that I have played since Half Life and probably the best PC game I have played this year. I cant reccomend it highly enough.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 10:35:33 PM

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The comments here about FSW, coming from highly qualified people, are strongly inducing me to buy an X-Box!
Is really that good?
Do the enemies appear at the same spot when you re-start the mission? (Not re-playing, a feature I know this game has)
Are the maps of the "tunnel type" (follow the predetermined route while you take out the enemies)?
How much your tactical skills have been challenged?
Your feedback is appreciated.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 10:54:51 PM

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The comments here about FSW, coming from highly qualified people, are strongly inducing me to buy an X-Box!
Is really that good?
Do the enemies appear at the same spot when you re-start the mission? (Not re-playing, a feature I know this game has)
Are the maps of the "tunnel type" (follow the predetermined route while you take out the enemies)?
How much your tactical skills have been challenged?
Your feedback is appreciated.

Yes
They appear in the exact same ambush posistions.
Leads to alot of trial and error game play.
I would however reccomend the game.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 11:36:12 PM

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Thanks for the feedback.
I will try to rent an X-box and the game itself before buying anything.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 11:41:55 PM

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The comments here about FSW, coming from highly qualified people, are strongly inducing me to buy an X-Box!

There's a PC version on the way, isn't there ?

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/4/2004 11:48:53 PM

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Yes, coming out in September.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/5/2004 12:48:27 AM

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"If this is typical of what the Xbox offers, then PC gaming could be a thing of the past for me.

Between these 2 games, I'll probably never leave my cave"

yea, but no console has Close Combat ;)

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/5/2004 2:48:02 AM

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"If this is typical of what the Xbox offers, then PC gaming could be a thing of the past for me.

Between these 2 games, I'll probably never leave my cave"

yea, but no console has Close Combat ;)

That's an interesting point.

FSW is alot like the CC series, only with just 1 squad on the ground in 3D.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/5/2004 4:27:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Old Eagle101

The hot ticket now is "Full Spectrum Warrior"

I cannot stop playing this game. I bought an Xbox just for this and don't regret it at all.

There is even a code that you enter that unlocks the actual game they made for the Army which has customizible maps, etc.

The best tactical squad level game ever. Revolutionary in every way.

Its use to be called " MOUT ". This game engine was commissiond by the U.S. Army, I know for a fact that the Airborne had trained on this engine(younger Bro raved about it). may have to size my sons Xbox, never thought I say that

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/5/2004 5:22:38 PM

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Microsoft is allready developing an Xbox - PC hybrid

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/5/2004 5:41:35 PM

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Microsoft is allready developing an Xbox - PC hybrid

Details dude,Details!!

Dont mean to jack the thread.

Just a question....How many of you guys think a CC,CM,SA or maybe some chit style..like KP or HTTR would fly on a X-Box or a PS2?

Ya,it would be weird playing it console but I seem to remember Panzer Generals or somthing like that on the PS1.

Im not saying that the games would go over better on a console Im just saying I think they would work fine.If they sold or not....thats a different story.

Damn X-Box....I cant stand the controler...its got to be the worst ever made.

The PS controler....a work of art!!

The greatest ever was the Atari 2600 joystick....worship it

...simplicity at its best!

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/5/2004 5:58:50 PM

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The PS controler....a work of art!!

The greatest ever was the Atari 2600 joystick....worship it ...simplicity at its best!

Too true! The Ps controller is the only controller that�s really good.

I have no english link yet on the MS hybrid. I only read a german news article about it a few days ago.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/5/2004 7:02:52 PM

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I caved last night and bought an XBox and Full Spectrum Warrior.

Why not, I bought a PS2 just for Gran Turismo 3 and never regretted it.
I've played all the way through that game twice without cheats
(Never did get the gold Super License though

)

When I walked in with it and saw the steely glare from my wife, all I could
come up with was, "You don't have to buy me a Father's day gift now!"

Anyway, as far as the game goes...

Its F*CK*NG AWESOME.

I've never seen anything quite like it. The way the soldiers move and cover for each other is incredible.
Even the way they talk. They all seem like real people.

Its still hard though, which is nice. You still have to move from cover point A to cover point B without getting
shot and the enemy can be hard to spot.

Add a tank or Bradly FV to the mix and you would be in war heaven.

Only gripe I have is the era. I just find WWII so much more interesting.
Also, I think it would be hard to control a great number of units. This system works
fine for 2-3 teams, not sure if it would work with 30 guys and 2 tanks though.

You would need the ability to give orders on a higher level, not 1 team at a time.

Anyway, thanks for the recommendation!

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/5/2004 8:38:35 PM

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I caved last night and bought an XBox and Full Spectrum Warrior.

Why not, I bought a PS2 just for Gran Turismo 3 and never regretted it.
I've played all the way through that game twice without cheats
(Never did get the gold Super License though )

When I walked in with it and saw the steely glare from my wife, all I could
come up with was, "You don't have to buy me a Father's day gift now!"

Anyway, as far as the game goes...

Its F*CK*NG AWESOME.

I've never seen anything quite like it. The way the soldiers move and cover for each other is incredible.
Even the way they talk. They all seem like real people.

Its still hard though, which is nice. You still have to move from cover point A to cover point B without getting
shot and the enemy can be hard to spot.

Add a tank or Bradly FV to the mix and you would be in war heaven.

Only gripe I have is the era. I just find WWII so much more interesting.
Also, I think it would be hard to control a great number of units. This system works
fine for 2-3 teams, not sure if it would work with 30 guys and 2 tanks though.

You would need the ability to give orders on a higher level, not 1 team at a time.

Anyway, thanks for the recommendation!

Hey Mav try entering ha2p1py9tur5tle and you can play FSW as it was designed for the Army. Customizible maps are different than the regular game maps plus you can add civilians into the mix. You can change the agression level of the terrorists and even add aggression levels to the Civ's.

It's amazing how much detail is in the soldiers considering it runs at TV resolutions.

The banter between the squaddies is often hilarious and brings back a lot of memories.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/6/2004 4:15:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: mavraam

I caved last night and bought an XBox and Full Spectrum Warrior.

Why not, I bought a PS2 just for Gran Turismo 3 and never regretted it.

I bought an Amiga system just for Earl Weaver Baseball and didn't regret it either. I bought my X-Box once I saw how good the sports games are compared to the PC. I hadn't heard anything about Full Spectrum Warrior but I expect I'll have it soon. ;)

@ Riverbravo

Re: Real wargames on a console.

One of the first, if not the first, computer wargame I ever played was Chris Crawford's Eastern Front on the Atari 800. I believe the entire game could be played with the joystick. Considering, how sophisticated the contollers are now, I would think it would be doable. Especially, if a strong AI was programmed to make up for the lack of order options.

edit-
Found this link which has a link to the map. Very cool to see it again after all these years.
http://www.atariarchives.org/APX/showinfo.php?cat=20050

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/6/2004 4:27:29 AM

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The PS2 and I believe the X-Box has the option of plugging up a keyboard and mouse to the system.
So that would eliminate any control problems.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/6/2004 10:05:11 AM

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I posted on this thing a month back and now it's a hot topic

It looks good and i think this game may be worth a shot after seeing some more action shots from it.Just remember this isn't run an gun but proper squad based tactics will be the difference between victory and De Feet

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/7/2004 2:07:38 AM

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Hey Mav try entering ha2p1py9tur5tle and you can play FSW as it was designed for the Army. Customizible maps are different than the regular game maps plus you can add civilians into the mix. You can change the agression level of the terrorists and even add aggression levels to the Civ's.

It's amazing how much detail is in the soldiers considering it runs at TV resolutions.

The banter between the squaddies is often hilarious and brings back a lot of memories.

Thanks, I'll have to try that. I want to make it all the way through the game first though

I wouldn't say I played a lot this weekend, but my wife told me I woke her up last night yelling

"Alpha Team! Point fire there. On my Mark! Bravo team! Move there. Go! Go! Go!"

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/7/2004 11:44:05 AM

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Only gripe I have is the era. I just find WWII so much more interesting.
Also, I think it would be hard to control a great number of units. This system works
fine for 2-3 teams, not sure if it would work with 30 guys and 2 tanks though.

Watch out for "Brothers in Arms" then. The gameplay video I watched looks like it plays similiar then what FSW is about.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/7/2004 5:33:30 PM

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The only thing that turns me off this game is the fact that the enemy appear at the same spot when you re-start the mission. If the enemy would spawn at random places, I would be runing to buy an X-Box and the game itself.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/7/2004 10:38:32 PM

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The only thing that turns me off this game is the fact that the enemy appear at the same spot when you re-start the mission. If the enemy would spawn at random places, I would be runing to buy an X-Box and the game itself.

That's why I gave it a 9 instead of a 10.

BUT

When you play it in Army mode the maps can be customized as to enemy and Civilian pop, AI etc, which adds tremendous, almost limitless replay value.

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RE: brothers in arms, anyone heard about it? - 6/7/2004 10:44:22 PM

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The PS controler....a work of art!!

The greatest ever was the Atari 2600 joystick....worship it ...simplicity at its best!

Too true! The Ps controller is the only controller that�s really good.

I have no english link yet on the MS hybrid. I only read a german news article about it a few days ago.

Thats good news.

I hope they do make a full on "rip-off" of the PS controller with the analog sticks.

I would seriously consider an X-box if they did.

The PS controler offers almost endless possibilities.

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