Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Shadow of the Condor

Hi. Not too sure if this is a "bug", but definitely something I couldn't find or understand, so maybe one of the players here can help.

I'm still confused about some of the carrier operations in UV. In my game against Tabpub, Saratoga took two torpedoes and was limping home when subs tracked her down, and that was that.

To counter the sub threat I sent eight destroyers to follow Saratoga, and when they arrived in her hex I transferred them into her TF (which contained Sara and the lone escort, Gwin). Adding the eight destroyers put ten ships total in the TF. Yet the next turn, the eight I added detached from Saratoga and headed for Koumac, which was Sara's destination, leaving Gwin by herself to try and defend Sara from subs.

I completely understand a CV TF detaching a wounded destroyer who can't keep up with the TF. What I don't understand is why a CV TF (with one CV in it) would have its escorts detach from the carrier. Aren't the escorts there to protect the carrier - wounded or not?

This is definitely not "sour grapes", just a question about the logic behind destroyers leaving a carrier to fend for itself while they continue on as a CV TF with no carrier to escort.

(edit: the escorts had plenty of fuel, ammo, etc. and had no damage to themselves which would cause an auto-return)

Any comments?

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ORIGINAL: CMDRMCTOAST

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shadow of the Condor

Hi. Not too sure if this is a "bug", but definitely something I couldn't find or understand, so maybe one of the players here can help.

I'm still confused about some of the carrier operations in UV. In my game against Tabpub, Saratoga took two torpedoes and was limping home when subs tracked her down, and that was that.

To counter the sub threat I sent eight destroyers to follow Saratoga, and when they arrived in her hex I transferred them into her TF (which contained Sara and the lone escort, Gwin). Adding the eight destroyers put ten ships total in the TF. Yet the next turn, the eight I added detached from Saratoga and headed for Koumac, which was Sara's destination, leaving Gwin by herself to try and defend Sara from subs.

I completely understand a CV TF detaching a wounded destroyer who can't keep up with the TF. What I don't understand is why a CV TF (with one CV in it) would have its escorts detach from the carrier. Aren't the escorts there to protect the carrier - wounded or not?

This is definitely not "sour grapes", just a question about the logic behind destroyers leaving a carrier to fend for itself while they continue on as a CV TF with no carrier to escort.

(edit: the escorts had plenty of fuel, ammo, etc. and had no damage to themselves which would cause an auto-return)

Any comments?

Definately set destroyers to follow but I would set several task groups of 2 or three
destroyers per group with SC'S also.
Make sure your destroyers have 2 different kinds of depth charges also.
and fly extra Heavy naval search missions to pick up the subs ahead and chase them down.

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originally posted by Nomad

Actually, this is a known bug and has been discussed before. You combine the DDs with the damaged CV TF and then during execution it splits again. Also, if you just leave the damaged CV TF alone it will split again into a new numbered TF and the old number becomes an empty TF, making trying to have LRCAP over it useless too. This will also negate the follow command since the Tf with the number you are following disappears.