Feinder
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Joined: 9/4/2002 From: Land o' Lakes, FL Status: offline
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Also be aware that (normally) anything under a light cruiser (including DDs), normally has ZERO armor. Anything that gets fired at these ships is going to penetrate. Naturally, you'd expect the the 3" and 5" guns to hurt the DDs, but even 40mm, 20mm, 50cal, and 30cals will also damage your ships (again, they have penetration of at least 1, and your smaller ships have armor of 0). So even your DDs can get raked fairly hard if these types of AA guns are firing at your DDs. It might be that, these AA guns are -not- firing at your DDs in that round (clarification Erik?), in which case disregard this. But if the AA weapons are firing back (I know that many of CD units have their own organic AA weapons), then they may very well be a strong contributer to your damage. That's something different in WitP than UV, in UV you could see the replay of the exchange between the ships and CD guns (which was normally clicked thru, but would be useful in this instance, to see if the AA guns were participating). I've never liked (in UV) that 50cals and 20mms could do so much SYS damage to DDs. I just think they should have 1 or 2 armor to eliminate that issue (for example, most aircraft have 1 armor, shouldn't a DD?). Whatever. Another way to help minimize your losses, is to omit DDs from your bombardment TF. Put your CAs and BBs together in your bombardment TF, but omit the DDs. They'll egage the CD guns at 8000 yds or so, and do their deadly task. When the CDs fire back with their 5" guns, they are far less effective vs. the armor of the CAs and BBs (likely no damage at all). But if you include DDs in your TF, they will move to within 4000 yds so that the DDs can fire. The DDs are obviously vulnerable to the CD guns, and now you're putting them harm's way (and they're probably only contributing 10% of the damage anyways), so don't include them. If you're worried about subs, put the DDs in an ASW TF assigned to follow the Bombardment TF (with your CAs and BBs), and that will help with the problem (and should keep your DDs away from the CD guns). Regards, -F-
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