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ORIGINAL: RevRick

A friend of mine sent me this one. I had to pass it on.

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ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi The "Forrest Fire" was started when Zuni missile was connected to aircraft while stray voltage was in circuit.

Is that a AIM-9? Since to launch normaly you need a lock and a second command I'd say the rocket motor just went off for what ever reason not a pilot pushing a wrong button.

Normal launch is you aquire a target and hold down a key. When missle aquires target it squeals to let you know and you then "pull the trigger" to fire.

I'm not retreating, I'm attacking in a different direction!

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ORIGINAL: Twotribes

The most likely thing that happened is that as the aircraft was arrested and trapped on landing the missile broke free of its mount. If it had fired no camera man would have had time, at the speed it travels, to take 2 pictures of it traveling the deck.

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I must assume thats a live missile laying on the flight deck

"Our lives begin to end the moment we become silent about things that matter". Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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ORIGINAL: Mogami

Is that a AIM-9? Since to launch normaly you need a lock and a second command I'd say the rocket motor just went off for what ever reason not a pilot pushing a wrong button.

Normal lauch is you aquire a target and hold down a key. When missle aquires target it squeals to let you know and you then "pull the trigger" to fire.

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ORIGINAL: Tankerace

Guys guys guys.... It's just an example of budget cuts. They can't affor to fly, so they fire the missiles in training while still on the deck.

Twinkle twinkle PBY
Seeking Kido Bu-tai
Flying o' the sea so high
An ill-omen in the sky
Twinkle twinkle PBY
Pointing out who's next to fry

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ORIGINAL: Rhino WSO
"Maddog" is a term for only active Radar missiles (AMRAAM).

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ORIGINAL: Rhino WSO
BTW, you cannot shoot a Sidewinder without a lock and

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ORIGINAL: MadmanRick

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I must assume thats a live missile laying on the flight deck

Appears to be a live 'Winder to me, iirc the navy uses blue (as does the USAF) to mark a training round. So it should either have a blue body or blue bands on it to signify that it is inert. I can see no such markings. Also being that close to the A/C, if the rocket had ignited it would be readily appearent. This seems to me to be a missle that broke loose when the A/C arrested. Also, I don't think that a picture that clear would have been possible if the rocket motor had ignited. Although I suppose these could be frames from a video feed?

Rick

"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.

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ORIGINAL: strawbuk

Hmm... 1 - so someone just happend to be videoing the landing did they? Standard practice to help training? Or deck crew do it just in case they can make £50 off 'USN's Craziest Videos' show?

Hmm 2 - missile not fired we agree, so flew off when ac arrrested? So a. why fins not bent by hitting deck b. why going in straight line, despite being in contact with deck (too low speed for fins to have effect?),

Hmm 3 why in second shot is front of missile now off the deck? Again , not fired so why moving fast enough to 'fly' . I know those boys land fast but not THAT fast.

Hmm 4 'When an AIM-9L/M missile fires its motor you will know it.' so not gone off. But just enough 'smoke' in picture to suggest a fired missile to uninformed - where is that smoke coming from so convienently from tail pipe?

Hmm 5 - expert opinion/advice please - if arresting, where is wire/hook? Would still be in shot if missile just 'jerked off'?

Hmm 6 - the really paranoid may wish to start assessing the relationship of the ac and missile shadows (but I may be pushing that).

BOGUS!

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ORIGINAL: strawbuk

Hmm... 1 - so someone just happend to be videoing the landing did they? Standard practice to help training? Or deck crew do it just in case they can make £50 off 'USN's Craziest Videos' show?

Each service has a Rating/MOS or Specialty Code for combat camera. It’s that person’s job to take pictures of everything that happens. That’s where much of the more mundane pictures of military operations come from. The press will show you all the sensational and gory bits about war, A combat camera man/person will take pictures of the mechanic fixing a flat tire, the cook serving food (after the VIP has left) or the combat team taking enemy fire. They take pictures for history not headlines

Hmm 2 - missile not fired we agree, so flew off when ac arrrested? So a. why fins not bent by hitting deck b. why going in straight line, despite being in contact with deck (too low speed for fins to have effect?),

The sidewinder missile in the pictures might look small (compared to an ICBM) but it’s really a fairly stout well-constructed weapon system. Check out this web page for lots of pictures of sidewinders:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/aim-9-pics.htm

Hmm 3 why in second shot is front of missile now off the deck? Again , not fired so why moving fast enough to 'fly' . I know those boys land fast but not THAT fast.

See X's post about speed and physics

Hmm 4 'When an AIM-9L/M missile fires its motor you will know it.' so not gone off. But just enough 'smoke' in picture to suggest a fired missile to uninformed - where is that smoke coming from so convienently from tail pipe?

Check out the web page indicated about, it has cool photo of sidewinder just after being fired from a F/A-18, cool flames

Hmm 5 - expert opinion/advice please - if arresting, where is wire/hook? Would still be in shot if missile just 'jerked off'?

A tail hook is at the rear of the plane. The rear of the plane is not fully in frame. Expert on tail hooks not needed for this one.

Hmm 6 - the really paranoid may wish to start assessing the relationship of the ac and missile shadows (but I may be pushing that).

The shadows look like the sun is high in the sky, perhaps midday or a few hours either side of noon on first picture. Second picture shadow looks about the same. I’m by no means a weatherman, astronomer, astrologer (or what ever a person who studies the sun is called), but I am a sun worshiper (I love the beach).

BOGUS!

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We were moving some captured rockets and mortar rounds out of our company base in Iraq when someone dropped one as they were loading it on a HEMMET (or whatever the acronym for those damn things), it started smoking and everyone did their best impression of an Olympic sprinter.

Where's the Any key?