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divide and rebuilt .. - 5/18/2005 11:59:14 PM

harrer

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scenario 4, launched under 1.5 , against the AI, end of May

I have a squadron of fifty P 40 E at PM. ( max number = 72 )
The number of pilots equals the number of planes.
I divided the unit and rebuild it. 4 pilots are missing

I did it again, 4 other pilots diseppeard

I use the button get new pilots, put 8 new pilots, and try again .. 4 other pilots losts

I checked in the pilot pool when doing this and the diseppearing pilots didn't go to the pool ..

Is this a bug known ??

Thanks for any hit

Harrer

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 12:40:28 AM

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send save

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 1:43:44 AM

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Quick fix for harrer.

Keep you hand off the mouse, and stop dividing and recombining the unit for no apparent reason.

The unit is at full strength already, isn't it?

Or, it was.

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 9:37:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Halsey

Quick fix for harrer.

Keep you hand off the mouse, and stop dividing and recombining the unit for no apparent reason.
The unit is at full strength already, isn't it?

Or, it was.

yep, but doesn't have to happen

Harrer

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 9:39:01 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

send save

Done

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 11:49:54 AM

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"This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

witp.help@gmail.com "

Your box is full ? Tell me what's wrong and when to send it again

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 1:23:29 PM

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Harrer the bug hunter!

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 3:33:56 PM

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try again, scary that I can make gmail run out of space

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 5:40:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Halsey

Harrer the bug hunter!

yep, back just to tell you about the 1.5 bugs

BTW, I found another one :

to take some bases, I send paras .. and then, when the area is secure, I send AK or AP to take them back. When my Ak or AP is there, I can load the unit and because of the size of the unit dropped, the entire unit is loaded, but I still can see the icon of the unit on the map .. a little bug, but a bug

Also, sometimes, when trying to load the unit, the AK or AP seems to have loaded it and wanna take supply then, but the unit is still in the base .. that's more annoying ..

Harrer

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 5:43:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

try again, scary that I can make gmail run out of space

Done again

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 6:31:57 PM

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Not here yet ... just to be sure thats witp.help@gmail.com

Hmm, just bounced a email through them ... took a while to get it so it's probably at their end.

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/19/2005 10:51:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Not here yet ... just to be sure thats witp.help@gmail.com

Hmm, just bounced a email through them ... took a while to get it so it's probably at their end.

the same message than before I received

I dunno understand

Why can't I send you a save with a bug ? Am I blocked from your box ?

Harrer

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/20/2005 1:31:35 AM

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Hmm, no idea ... you piss off Google in another life?

See your PM for another address.

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/20/2005 1:27:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Hmm, no idea ... you piss off Google in another life?

See your PM for another address.

BTW, I have an other problem with the AVG

I divide it, and when dividing, the part /A take more pilots then the two other parts .. so I need to push on get nex pilots for the other parts .. I rebuilt and divide again, the same .. I did that several times, and the part /A had 50+ pilots for 24 planes and the two others missed some pilots

I'll send it to you too

Is it a know bug ? When can I download the patch 1.6 ?

Harrer

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/20/2005 1:36:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Hmm, no idea ... you piss off Google in another life?

See your PM for another address.

Done to the address you gave me
Hope this will function properly

Harrer

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/20/2005 4:10:16 PM

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quote:

I divide it, and when dividing, the part /A take more pilots then the two other parts .. so I need to push on get nex pilots for the other parts .. I rebuilt and divide again, the same .. I did that several times, and the part /A had 50+ pilots for 24 planes and the two others missed some pilots

Self inflicted, no sympathy there. /A always gets the leftover ... if you want to keep pulling pilots, thats your choice.

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/21/2005 2:19:15 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

quote:

I divide it, and when dividing, the part /A take more pilots then the two other parts .. so I need to push on get nex pilots for the other parts .. I rebuilt and divide again, the same .. I did that several times, and the part /A had 50+ pilots for 24 planes and the two others missed some pilots

Self inflicted, no sympathy there. /A always gets the leftover ... if you want to keep pulling pilots, thats your choice.

Harrer

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 5/31/2005 8:08:53 PM

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Self inflicted, no sympathy there. /A always gets the leftover ... if you want to keep pulling pilots, thats your choice.

Yes, but /A gets more pilots than planes, while /B and /C get more planes than pilots. It is an exploit that you can use to increase pilots per plane, but I hope this is not WAD.

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 6/1/2005 5:50:20 PM

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Yes, but /A gets more pilots than planes, while /B and /C get more planes than pilots. It is an exploit that you can use to increase pilots per plane, but I hope this is not WAD.

How is pulling crappy pilots with poor skills an exploit? If anything, you are punishing yourself.

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 6/1/2005 7:11:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

How is pulling crappy pilots with poor skills an exploit? If anything, you are punishing yourself.

If your pilot skills are crappy anyway....

Anyway, I agree that dividing groups punishes the player because the divcision does not work as it should (say you have 72 pilots and 72 planes: when divided the group will likely have something like:
/A 24 planes, 30 pilots
/B 24 planes, 21 pilots
/C 24 planes, 21 pilots.

From what I understand, subunits /B and /C are now out of action unless you draw pilots from the pool to make pilots = planes. For IJN air units, of course, this would be devastating, but then the IJN units are not so big that you will be dividing them anyway. The problem for the Allies is only present in the first 18 months or so of war, wherein they are trying to get by without adequate AV assets at some bases (and in the first 6-7 months, at any of their forward bases!). But in that period, Allied replacements are not notably inferior to the existing pilots.

So, the bottom line is that this is not a huge problem, as far as I can tell, but if there is a bug fix list it should probably be on it.

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RE: divide and rebuilt .. - 6/2/2005 12:28:16 AM

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I see the unequal division of pilots all the time when breaking down a group.
I just figured the program doesn't know how to divide by 3.

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