Matrix Games Forums

Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

strategy in PI

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [Current Games From Matrix.] >> [World War II] >> War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945 >> The War Room >> strategy in PI Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
strategy in PI - 6/6/2005 3:37:40 PM   
jeanbart_MF


Posts: 72
Joined: 1/10/2005
From: France
Status: offline
I've read several of the last posts, but I don't manage to make my opinion:
During the first months of the war is it worth enough to defend the manilla/clark field/Bataan bases, do you make the last stand at bataan or manilla ?
The historical choice has been a retreat in bataan isn't it ?


_____________________________

"In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
Post #: 1
RE: strategy in PI - 6/6/2005 4:12:52 PM   
Titanwarrior89


Posts: 3283
Joined: 8/28/2003
From: arkansas
Status: offline
I normally will hold at Bataan after just about everything else is lost on the big island. I try to move whats left of the better units back there if I can.

But I always try to slow e'm down in PI so as too keep the jap player from gaining to much ground to soon.

< Message edited by Titanwarrior89 -- 6/6/2005 4:13:18 PM >


_____________________________

"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".

"Mama, There's Rabbits in the Garden"

(in reply to jeanbart_MF)
Post #: 2
RE: strategy in PI - 6/6/2005 6:30:45 PM   
jeanbart_MF


Posts: 72
Joined: 1/10/2005
From: France
Status: offline
but the lost of clarkfield cut the way from manilla to bataan and then the us troops are divided in two smaller armies...



_____________________________

"In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

(in reply to jeanbart_MF)
Post #: 3
RE: strategy in PI - 6/6/2005 7:02:19 PM   
general billy


Posts: 915
Joined: 9/28/2003
From: London UK
Status: offline
Manilla is the best place to stand because its urban, thus giving the defense a X2 defense.. IMO

(in reply to jeanbart_MF)
Post #: 4
RE: strategy in PI - 6/6/2005 7:20:12 PM   
jeanbart_MF


Posts: 72
Joined: 1/10/2005
From: France
Status: offline
evacuate bataan via clarkfield seems to be the best way to stand a long time in PI ?



_____________________________

"In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

(in reply to general billy)
Post #: 5
RE: strategy in PI - 6/6/2005 7:56:10 PM   
Sharkosaurus rex


Posts: 467
Joined: 10/19/2004
From: under the waves
Status: offline
Don't forget that 2x PI divisions arrive in Baatan:12 and 23 days into no variable re-inforcements. So if you give it up too early you might miss out. Don't forget that Manila has only one fort level while Clark Field has four and Baatan has 3.

_____________________________

Is Sharkosaurus rex the biggest fish in the sea?
Why don't you come in for a swim?

(in reply to jeanbart_MF)
Post #: 6
RE: strategy in PI - 6/6/2005 7:58:51 PM   
bradfordkay

 

Posts: 8683
Joined: 3/24/2002
From: Olympia, WA
Status: offline
Yeah, my experience has been that Manila is the best place to try to make your last stand. If you can sneak any supply convoys in, they will unload much more quickly at Manila. This bonus is on top of the previously mentioned urban terrain defense bonus. Also, I have never seen the Bataan CD unit firing at invasion TFs passing tough to lnad at Manila, but the Manila CD unit has been very good at hammering those TFs. All this leads me to believe that evacuating Bataan to build up Manila is the best move. You must do it early enough to prevent getting trapped in Bataan (as well, if you do it early enough, the supplies at Bataan will be moved to Manila/Clark).

_____________________________

fair winds,
Brad

(in reply to jeanbart_MF)
Post #: 7
RE: strategy in PI - 6/6/2005 8:07:30 PM   
Sharkosaurus rex


Posts: 467
Joined: 10/19/2004
From: under the waves
Status: offline
If you defend at Clark first then retreat to Bataan your inital defence is in non-malaria hex then you retreat to a malaria hex (Bataan). If you can hold up the Japs then they are degrading for attacking and in the malaria so the Jap units will take longer to recover for their next op. If you defend in Manila, both sides are in non-malaria hex so Japs will be fresher after the seige.

_____________________________

Is Sharkosaurus rex the biggest fish in the sea?
Why don't you come in for a swim?

(in reply to bradfordkay)
Post #: 8
RE: strategy in PI - 6/6/2005 8:11:25 PM   
jeanbart_MF


Posts: 72
Joined: 1/10/2005
From: France
Status: offline
thank you guys !!



_____________________________

"In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

(in reply to bradfordkay)
Post #: 9
RE: strategy in PI - 6/8/2005 12:11:23 PM   
MarcA


Posts: 1181
Joined: 3/2/2005
From: England
Status: offline


quote:

ORIGINAL: general billy

Manilla is the best place to stand because its urban, thus giving the defense a X2 defense.. IMO


Hi all, the manual gives the terrain modifier for urban as x4. Is this correct or is it actually x2?


(in reply to general billy)
Post #: 10
RE: strategy in PI - 6/8/2005 12:14:09 PM   
String


Posts: 2661
Joined: 10/7/2003
From: Estonia
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: mantill



quote:

ORIGINAL: general billy

Manilla is the best place to stand because its urban, thus giving the defense a X2 defense.. IMO


Hi all, the manual gives the terrain modifier for urban as x4. Is this correct or is it actually x2?





Given my experience with the chinese in Chungking (also urban) I'd say it's 4x

(in reply to MarcA)
Post #: 11
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Current Games From Matrix.] >> [World War II] >> War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945 >> The War Room >> strategy in PI Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

1.047