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CHS Release 1.02 - 7/17/2005 7:42:31 PM   
Don Bowen


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The change list for CHS version 1.02 is complete. We have not addressed some recently raised points as the update has already been considerably delayed. We would like to get the ANZAC HQ and 393rd NBS changes out there.

The list is below. Actually making and verifying the changes will take a day or perhaps two. I would appreciate comments and corrections for items on this list or for major items that may have been excluded.

This is a complete list and supercedes all prior postings.

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The following bases in and around Australia will be assigned to ANZAC (HQ 110).
258 - Broken Hill
259 - Coen
260 - Charleville
261 - Cloncurry
262 - Daly Waters
263 - Geraldton
265 - Port Kembla
266 - Albany
267 - Exmouth
314 - Whyalla
316 - Geelong
320 - Newcastle
692 - Nauru Island
698 - Aitape
699 - Dagua
700 - Wewak
701 - Hansa
702 - Saidor
704 - Madang
705 - Finschhafen
706 - Lae
707 - Buna
708 - Salamaua
710 - Milne Bay
711 - Port Moresby
712 - Dobodura
714 - Rabaul
715 - Gasmata
716 - Talasea
717 - Arawe
718 - Sag Sag
721 - Kavieng
722 - Samo
723 - Admiralty Islands
724 - New Hanover Island
725 - Emirau Island
726 - Mussau Island
727 - Tabar Island
728 - Green Island
730 - Panggoe
731 - Kiriwina Island
732 - Woodlark Island
733 - Rossel Island
734 - Deboyne Island
735 - Goodenough Island
736 - Fergusson Island
737 - Normanby Island
738 - Thursday Island
739 - Tassafaronga
740 - Takataka
741 - Buka
742 - Torokina
743 - Buin
744 - Shortlands
745 - Vella Lavella
746 - Munda
747 - Rekata Bay
748 - Thousand Ships Bay
749 - Russell Islands
750 - Lunga
751 - Tulagi
752 - Rennell Island
753 - Stewart Island
754 - Irau
756 - Darwin
757 - Wyndham
758 - Derby
759 - Broome
760 - Perth
761 - Adelaide
762 - Devonport
763 - Hobart
764 - Melbourne
765 - Canberra
766 - Sydney
767 - Brisbane
768 - Rockhampton
769 - Townsville
770 - Cairns
771 - Cooktown
772 - Charters Towers
778 - Alice Springs


The following Air Units will move from ABDA to Australia Command. They are deployed at ABDA bases at scenario start - this change will allow them to move freely within ABDA or be withdrawn to Australia.
1471 - 2/2 Flight RAAF
1482 - 2/13 Flight RAAF


The following Air Units will move to ANZAC command to initially limit their deployment to Australian Bases:
1476 - No.7 Squadron RAAF
1497 - No.32 Squadron RAAF
1498 - No.33 Squadron RAAF
1499 - No.34 Squadron RAAF (was incorrectly assigned to Southeast Asia)
1501 - No.36 Squadron RAAF
1503 - No.38 Squadron RAAF
1504 - No.40 Squadron RAAF
1505 - No.41 Squadron RAAF



The Following unit was incorrectly assigned to New Zealand Command, change to Australia Command
2523 - 2/5 Independent Coy


The Following unit was incorrectly assigned to ANZAC Command, change to India Command (HQ 130)
171 - IND III Corps


Adjustment of Fortification values for Canadian Bases:
270 - Victoria to 2
891 - Vancouver to 2



Correct Vanguard secondary Armament
Class 1448 - Weapons 3 and 4, number adjusted to 8
Ship 3181 - Refresh from class


Correct Class of Frobisher (ship 3258):
Incorrectly classed as Kent Class, should be Hawkins Class



Add DE Tomich to OOB:
4005 - Tomich, Cannon Class, arrives 450718 at Panama


Remove Duplicate ship:
Remove ship 6108, L.P. St. Clair, a tanker - duplicate to ship 6217: L. P. St. Clair, also a Tanker



Adjustments to Kitty Hawk Class:
Class 422 - Adjust light AA to 8 20mm, no 40mm. Set upgrade to new class 1509
Class 1509 - New Upgrade for Kitty Hawk Class, copy values of previous class 422, set upgrade date to 8/44
Ship 6732 - Correct name to Kitty Hawk



Australian OOB Adjustments:

Remove two late arriving divisions - these were just new command organizations over existing formations
2852 - 5th Australian Division, remove
3137 - 11th Australian Division, remove

Add two additional brigades - these were formed in early 1942 from garrison units (most of which are not now in the OOB)
2852 - 31st Australian Brigade, arrives 420115 at Sydney
3137 - 32nd Australian Brigade, arrives 420215 at Newcastle



Correct Position of M3 Stuart Tanks
Device slot 517 has been shown to not have pool capability. The M3 Stuart Tank with Upgrade to M4 Sherman Tank will
be moved from this position to slot 492, overlaying the unused BT-7 Light Tank.

Adjust the following Locations to reflect this change:
2018 - USMC Infantry Division TOE
2160 - United State Base Force

Correct Assignment from Device 470 (M3 Stuarts with Light Tank Upgrade Path) to new Device 492:
3020 - 3rd Marine Div
3108 - 4th Marine Div
3170 - 6th Marine Div
3237 - 5th Marine Div



Correct Position of 383rd Heavy Bomb Squadron - must be in slot 1618 to handle atomic bomb:
Switch positions of VMF-215 (in slot 1618) and 393rd Heavy Bomb Sqd (in slot 1686)




Adjustments for correct Marks and arrivals of British Liberator Bombers:
145 - Change from Liberator VI to Liberator III. Copy all particulars from B-24D (aircraft 198) except for icon - leave as 145. Set upgrade to new Liberator VI, aircraft 210,
210 - New Liberator VI, copy all values from existing aircraft 145 except availability date - set to 1/44.


Adjust Pool of Brewster 339D to 25 aircraft to bring total allotment to historical totals.



Airgroup Max Size adjustments:
355 - G2/4th Daitai correct max size to 27


Increase production of Japanese Advanced Engines. Add two factories at Kanazawa:
Adv Mitsubishi engine factory, 100 on R&D
Adv Nakajima engines factory for 80


Adjust production of Liberators:
San Diego, LB-30 Factory reduce to 10
San Diego, add B-24D Factory, quantity 40


Adjust PBY and Catalina I:
Catalina I (Aircraft 104): remove armor, adjust endurance to 1135
San Diego reduce PBY Catalina Factory to 35


Adjust Beaufort Production:
Beaufort V-VIII (Aircraft 153) reduce build rate to 1, adjust arrival to 5/42.
Melbourne, reduce Beaufort V factory to 16
Sydney, reduce Beaufort V factory to 15
Edit: Based on delay in availability of Beauforts, adjust the following squadrons:
No.7 Squadron RAAF (1476): change equipment to Hudsons, upgrade to Beauforts
No.100 Squadron RAAF (1519): change arrival to 420501



Adjust Beaufighter:
Beaufighter VIC (Aircraft 149), Increase endurance to 420 from 360, remove weapons 2 & 3 and replace with one .303 Vickers "K" gun bearing Top, rear.
Beaufighter Mk21 (Aircraft 152) adjust arrival date to 1/44, build rate to 10, change weapon #2 to 4 x .50 caliber Brownings (device 161) facing forward.


Other Aircraft Production Adjustments:
TBM Avenger (Aircraft 99) change build rate to 120.
Bommerang II (Aircraft 120) change build rate to 0
Los Angeles, reduce Dauntless factory to 40.


Adjust Martin 139:
Reduce Max altitude to 23,900ft, increase Max speed to 213mph, reduce endurance to 430


Adjust weapons of Japanese Square Division TOE (Slot 936).
Adjust and rearrange weapons of the following Japanese divisions: 3rd, 19th, 20th, 13th, 116th

< Message edited by Don Bowen -- 7/17/2005 8:37:56 PM >


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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/17/2005 7:55:52 PM   
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Wonderful work Don!

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/17/2005 8:27:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund

Wonderful work Don!


Thanks but not Don - there's a bunch of us to share the glory and the guilt!



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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/17/2005 8:57:43 PM   
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Looks great, can't wait till its available.

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/17/2005 9:28:40 PM   
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TBD range?

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/17/2005 9:37:03 PM   
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quote:

Increase production of Japanese Advanced Engines. Add two factories at Kanazawa:
Adv Mitsubishi engine factory, 100 on R&D
Adv Nakajima engines factory for 80


Is this so the AI can finally produce all planes in the CHS scenario???

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/17/2005 9:42:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund

TBD range?


Only if resolved in the next couple of hours. We can easily “just one more fix” this update into next year!


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

quote:

Increase production of Japanese Advanced Engines. Add two factories at Kanazawa:
Adv Mitsubishi engine factory, 100 on R&D
Adv Nakajima engines factory for 80


Is this so the AI can finally produce all planes in the CHS scenario???


Yes, I believe so.




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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/18/2005 4:25:30 PM   
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will I have to restart my game for the changes to work, and many thanks for the great CHS work.

Ron

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/18/2005 7:01:37 PM   
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will I have to restart my game for the changes to work, and many thanks for the great CHS work.

Ron


Sorry but you will have to restart.


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Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/18/2005 8:27:54 PM   
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A CHS player has just brought another data problem to our attention - just in time to get included in the CHS 1.02 release (thank you Kereguelen!).

Please note that it is our intention to make 1.02 the last release of CHS for some time. If you have found an error in CHS please let me know immediately (or preferably sooner).

Don

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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/18/2005 11:24:16 PM   
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Is Spookys site still having download problems and if so is there any other way to possibly get the patch e-mailed from someone who can download it?

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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/18/2005 11:31:42 PM   
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Spooky's is still sick. I tried it earlier...

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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 1:40:47 AM   
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Any rough estimates of when 1.02 will be available for download? I'm tempted to try CHS since the AI appears to be not only working, but some people are saying it's an improvement!

I tried the 1st couple turns of 1.01 and it certainly seems vastly different! (in a good way ) but I don't want to get too into it if 1.02 is coming and will require a restart.



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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 1:46:08 AM   
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CHS PBY replacement rate = 90/month = 5,062 by 15/08/45.

Total production 3,571 according to http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/conspby.html

CHS Beaufort V-VIII replacement rate = 55/month = 3,093 by 15/08/45.

Total production 700 according to http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/brisbeaufort.html

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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 2:03:11 AM   
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From the change list (above)


Adjust PBY and Catalina I:
Catalina I (Aircraft 104): remove armor, adjust endurance to 1135
San Diego reduce PBY Catalina Factory to 35


Adjust Beaufort Production:
Beaufort V-VIII (Aircraft 153) reduce build rate to 1, adjust arrival to 5/42.
Melbourne, reduce Beaufort V factory to 16
Sydney, reduce Beaufort V factory to 15
Edit: Based on delay in availability of Beauforts, adjust the following squadrons:
No.7 Squadron RAAF (1476): change equipment to Hudsons, upgrade to Beauforts
No.100 Squadron RAAF (1519): change arrival to 420501

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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 2:27:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Spooky's is still sick. I tried it earlier...


Odd. I haven't had any problems with it recently.

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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 2:40:33 AM   
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US 5307th Composite Rgt. (slot 3075) = US 475th Rgt. (slot 3211).

http://www.ranger.org/rangerHistoryWorldWarIIMerrillsMarauders.html

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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 3:12:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: timtom

US 5307th Composite Rgt. (slot 3075) = US 475th Rgt. (slot 3211).

http://www.ranger.org/rangerHistoryWorldWarIIMerrillsMarauders.html


We'll rename the 475th as the 124th Cavalry.

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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 3:52:29 PM   
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Excellent, sling up a fresh post when its up.

I got games to play with sacorsair.

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RE: Last call for CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 3:58:59 PM   
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Likewise Mr. Burns and myself have been patiently waiting...

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 5:55:45 PM   
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Does I need to apply OOB changes for CHS. I am talking about "update OOB" feature that was introduced in the vanila 1.60.

Thank you.

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 6:20:33 PM   
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Does I need to apply OOB changes for CHS. I am talking about "update OOB" feature that was introduced in the vanila 1.60.

Thank you.



Sorry, that feature one works for the official patches - not for CHS.


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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 6:59:23 PM   
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Do we have a REAL idea as to when this version will be released? I'm itching to try CHS...

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 7:01:13 PM   
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Do we have a REAL idea as to when this version will be released? I'm itching to try CHS...


It went to Spooky about 2 minutes ago. It will take him a little while to get things put up on his site.




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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 8:20:49 PM   
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Maybe it's just Subchaser's map mod that's the problem. I've tried downloading the hexless version a few times now, and it always terminates the download at 17 out of 25 Mb.

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 9:02:31 PM   
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Hi

I got a message today from my ISP tech support. They know that they have some troubles with the server hosting the site ... so we can only hope that they will solve them quickly.

However, I advise you to use a download utility (ie : GetRight ...) when you download a big file.

About CHS v1.02, some of the files are now available in the CHS section of the website (just look for CHS Mod in the left part of the home page) but the planetop file is still missing ...

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Maybe it's just Subchaser's map mod that's the problem. I've tried downloading the hexless version a few times now, and it always terminates the download at 17 out of 25 Mb.






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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 9:14:25 PM   
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Got it.

Thank you Spooky and CHS people

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 9:23:45 PM   
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Ugh! No adjustment to the allied low levels of starting supplies means by 1943 our games could well be borked. I did a lot of work showing how supplies had been tweaked too low now for use for the entire game at these levels.

Any chance some supply bases could be added to arrive in late 42 early 43 just to be sure there is enough for the end game? I'd hate to invest a year of play and have to stop if it could have been prevented with a minor delay now. Over doing it by 1943 won't be a problem since max base storage is 1 million and the allies had plenty of supplies available in the states by then. Shipping it out was the only real limitting factor for the allies by 1943.

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 9:26:18 PM   
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quote:

About CHS v1.02, some of the files are now available in the CHS section of the website (just look for CHS Mod in the left part of the home page) but the planetop file is still missing ...


Is the Planetop file necessary if you had v1.01 or v1?

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RE: CHS Release 1.02 - 7/19/2005 10:21:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: treespider

quote:

About CHS v1.02, some of the files are now available in the CHS section of the website (just look for CHS Mod in the left part of the home page) but the planetop file is still missing ...


Is the Planetop file necessary if you had v1.01 or v1?


The previous planetops will work fine - the new one contains improvements but no new aircraft.




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