Both the BBC and Sky News are apparently reporting that the man shot at Stockwell Station had no connection to the terror attacks. We'll see what happens...
Most interesting was the young Western Oriental Gentleman's protracted condemnation (to camera - Sky News) of these absobloodylootly NOT Muslim, Islamic terrorists.
It was very impressive (had me going) how he insisted that these were anti everything Islam stands for, how people like that were being wrongly associated with people like him in the minds of others and that these people must be the work this or that or the other or possibly the guess whos.
So, no organic connection to be assumed between mainstream and extreme Islamic interests. It was the guess whos.
Guess what, no guess again... .
Ahh, what we are capable of when we feel sorry for ourselves. And the mainstream feel victimised by wrongheaded backlash and so... .
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I should think that we are a big enough group to warrant our own "General Discussion" section within WiTP. I HATE going out and then back into this area.
Why don't you like it in here? There are some good discussions at times.
Both the BBC and Sky News are apparently reporting that the man shot at Stockwell Station had no connection to the terror attacks. We'll see what happens...
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I should think that we are a big enough group to warrant our own "General Discussion" section within WiTP. I HATE going out and then back into this area.
Why don't you like it in here? There are some good discussions at times.
Simple........56K dial-up. It's even a pain just loading one page.
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'Looks like apologies are in order. A right muck up. I hope the chap was given a proper chance to 'surrender' himself because the grounds for his shooting are just too vague.
This has amplified the level of terror in London.
Why did he run? Did he think he'd be better off legging it having heard officers talking about shooting him to death???
'Looks like apologies are in order. A right muck up. I hope the chap was given a proper chance to 'surrender' himself because the grounds for his shooting are just too vague.
This has amplified the level of terror in London.
Why did he run? Did he think he'd be better off legging it having heard officers talking about shooting him to death???
Gibralta good Stockwell bad.
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The guy who shot him was reportedly in plain clothes. Heck, if some random guy pulled out a gun and started yelling and chasing ME, i'd run!!
Given the latest round of revelations, it sounds like the penalty for wearing a long coat in summer is now death. The Fashion Police are really getting some teeth now!!
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No intention of starting a argument, but, If one of the men chasing me had a visable black automatic in his hand and at the ready, I would have stopped, you can always get a new visa.
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I presume your talking to me and not Terminus. I have a great respect for all persons, places & things. I also have a very peaceful conscience and sleep very well at night, considering I did a few tours in Viet Nam with a confirmed kill record, how many, thats for me to know. Until you come face to face with your demon don't preach to me.
I'm also a realist living in the real world. I not sure what world your living in. I think youv'e been reading to many scifi books. Try George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm, thats what you should fear. Thats what the terrorist want.
Your right the new order has arrived and it might just be a good thing. If you have nothing to hide, whats the problem? I just hope their not to late.
If you know a better way of dealing with the religous zealot terrorist and those suspected of being those terrorist before they murder hundreds more please let all the anti-terrorist units around the world in on your plan.
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If you have nothing to hide, whats the problem? I just hope their not to late.
...and if you are a wasp, but if you are a arab or look like an arab like de Menezes ...
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If you know a better way of dealing with the religous zealot terrorist and those suspected of being those terrorist before they murder hundreds more please let all the anti-terrorist units around the world in on your plan.
since 2001 your president have create more terrorisme than Ben Laden could have never espected.
If you have nothing to hide, whats the problem? I just hope their not to late.
...and if you are a wasp, but if you are a arab or look like an arab like de Menezes ...
2gaulle,
If you have any interest in people understanding what you have to say, you need to expand a bit on your beliefs and theories. You need to backup your statements with actual substance and information that people can follow.
Random teen-angst one-liners are going to get you a couple of laughs but not much more than that. As a casual observer of these political arguments, the only thing I can determine is that you're sort of a pompous ass and not much else. Then again if that's what you're going for, cool. :)
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If you have any interest in people understanding what you have to say, you need to expand a bit on your beliefs and theories. You need to backup your statements with actual substance and information that people can follow.
Random teen-angst one-liners are going to get you a couple of laughs but not much more than that. As a casual observer of these political arguments, the only thing I can determine is that you're sort of a pompous ass and not much else. Then again if that's what you're going for, cool. :)
there are not more blind man than those who doesn't want to see.
Does Menezes was shoot only because it was look like a pakistanes or not?
when in a democratie you give the power to kill only because some one look like strange are you still in a democratie, are you still cultivate?
ORIGINAL: 2gaulle there are not more blind man than those who doesn't want to see.
I'm not participating in the argument. I'm critiquing the way in which you're arguing your point. I'm sure you have valid points to make, it's just that none of it is "going through translation" so to speak. Because your english isn't very good, you need to give more information than just one-liners that may make sense to you but just make the rest of us go "huh?"
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when in a democratie you give the power to kill only because some one look like strange are you still in a democratie, are you still cultivate?
Again, I don't think anybody here is going to understand this sentence. "are you still cultivate" has more to do with gardening than it does with terrorism or politics. The language barrier thing sucks, you just need to say things repeatedly in a couple of different ways so that people can understand you.
Figured this would spiral at some point..........you wanna discuss these things? Take it to PM, IM or better yet......Vinny and Doog's Mad Cow Steakhouse where you can argue and insult one another to your hearts content. Bring your nomex suit though...........the regulars like to eat newbies.
Locking up.
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