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minor nation creation - 8/19/2005 12:24:09 AM   
plasticpanzers

 

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Status: offline 		I have tried hard to have this happen but lets say I
have Austria surrender and cede Tyrol to me. Does that
allow the creation of the Kingdom of Bavaria or do I
have to liberate it and hope i can outbid everybody
else to have it become a protectorate and then it will
be part of Bavaria? Same for Poland. I ended up with
it all conquored or ceded to me in one game but no
Polish troops. How do you know if a new kingdom is
really created? Historically Napoleon usually siezed
a territory and ceded it to a smaller nation to turn
it into a kingdom, he did not have to outbid other
nations for it. Small note is that for the French
they historically did not need Sicily to create the
Kingdom of Naples. Sicily remained as a seperate
Kingdom allied to England and the rest of S. Italy
became the Kingdom of Naples.
I do think there should be a ceremony page or some
type of physical outline (thin white border trim on
the new kingdom) or something on showing the creating
of small kingdoms. would be more fun.
Tim

< Message edited by plasticpanzers -- 8/19/2005 12:27:16 AM >
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RE: minor nation creation - 8/20/2005 12:26:11 AM   
Mr. Z


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quote:

lets say I
have Austria surrender and cede Tyrol to me. Does that
allow the creation of the Kingdom of Bavaria or do I
have to liberate it and hope i can outbid everybody
else to have it become a protectorate and then it will
be part of Bavaria? Same for Poland.

Cannot create new political entities. You can sort of pretend they're there, but currently you can't unattach and re-attach provinces from each other, nor can you currently rename minor countries.

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How do you know if a new kingdom is
really created?

You can't create new kingdoms. You can conquer all the minor countries in a region, as explained in the Regional Bonus Units in the Appendix--this will give you more troops in your spring levy. That's the most we could do to duplicate Napoleon's kingdoms. We agree it would be fun if we could ever figure out a way to do it.

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RE: minor nation creation - 8/20/2005 12:32:33 AM   
ericbabe


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Status: offline 		They can't just be conquered -- they've got to be protectorates. There's a problem with Tyrolia because it can't be made into a protectorate in any way. This is on my list of bugs to fix...it should work if Tyrolia is conquered by the same player who has Bavaria as a protectorate.

We'd also like to slap down some sort of graphical overlay on the map when a region is operational... even a name would be nice, but we had talked about doing an additional border around the whole thing.


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RE: minor nation creation - 8/20/2005 2:35:01 AM   
plasticpanzers

 

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Status: offline 		would it be possible modify the program to make it
possible to conquor a territory like the Tyrol and then
make it a protectorate? this would allow the new
owners to "create" either by politics or force these new minor nations.
Tim

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RE: minor nation creation - 8/20/2005 6:10:23 PM   
Mr. Z


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ORIGINAL: ericbabe

They can't just be conquered -- they've got to be protectorates.

Hm, should we change that? It just seems too difficult to pull off. Unless we install some sort of auto-ask for protection by conquered countries.

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There's a problem with Tyrolia because it can't be made into a protectorate in any way. This is on my list of bugs to fix...

Whoops! How true!

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it should work if Tyrolia is conquered by the same player who has Bavaria as a protectorate.

? Because?

quote:

We'd also like to slap down some sort of graphical overlay on the map when a region is operational... even a name would be nice, but we had talked about doing an additional border around the whole thing.

Ooo, that'd be nice!

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RE: minor nation creation - 8/20/2005 6:11:05 PM   
Mr. Z


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ORIGINAL: plasticpanzers

would it be possible modify the program to make it
possible to conquor a territory like the Tyrol and then
make it a protectorate? this would allow the new
owners to "create" either by politics or force these new minor nations.
Tim

Yeah, this is the sort of thing I'd like to see. Or something like that, anyway.

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