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Say Tim, what are the chances? - 10/21/2005 12:03:23 AM   
Le Tondu


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Status: offline 		Dear Tim, (a.k.a. Double Shot Design)

We all would like to know when we will see this game. It is so cool that some of us find it hard to wait. Some folks have forsworn playing any Napoleonic games until this one is released.

I understand it is in developement and I respect that. Unexpected improvements and upgrades might happen suddenly without any warning and therefore delay the release of any game.

I ask for nothing specific.

In general and according to the way that things look at this time, what are the chances of seeing this game released before end of:

Last Quarter 2005?

First Quarter 2006?

Second Quarter 2006?

Third Quarter 2006?

Last Quarter 2006?

(ie. 90%, 80%, etc....)

We'd like an unoffical ballpark guesstimate that no one can be tied to.

If that cannot be given, what is your personal opinion or hopes?

Many thanks from all of us.
Rick


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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 10/21/2005 8:58:35 PM   
Tim Coakley

 

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Status: offline 		I would love to give a good date...but...

Honestly I expected to be done a year ago. The programming takes much longer than I ever imagined, not to mention getting graphics.

Good news...I should have a new version to the testers early next week. Took care of two issues I wanted done before sending it out again.

I have locked the features so no more delays in that manner.

I expect to reach solid testing about 1st of the year. They it will be bug crunching, scenario design, and graphics updates.

About all the info I can give.

Tim

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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 10/21/2005 11:00:00 PM   
Le Tondu


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Cool.

It gives us a picture that is a big help.

Thanks again.
Rick


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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 11/26/2005 3:19:15 AM   
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Were pullin for ya!!

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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 11/27/2005 2:27:08 PM   
IAN 1963

 

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Now that the perameters and specs for the game have been fixed could we please have a table showing the fire and melee factors of the various weapons included in the game. It would also be helpful to have the fire and melee defence modifiers it is proposed to use for cuirassiers etc.

This will enable people to work out the right pluses and minuses to use to mod different weapons types not in the game, for example

1. Increase basic fire factors of muskets and rifles by 1/7th when fitted with percussion locks to stimulate the lower rate of misfires. = Needed for the post 1840 to 1860 period

2. Increase the fire factors of rifles up to those fo muskets (I presume these are lower to reflect the longer loading time) once the minie bullet is introduced in the 1850’s

3. Work out the appropriate reduction in melee value for infantry not armed with bayonets

4. Work out the reductions in fire value for troops a. using loose powder rather than cartridges, b. using wooden rather than metal ramrods, and c. using matchlocks.

My own guess is that if these sort of modifications are practicable that the game will work quite well for battles between 1660 and 1860. I.e. the period when most infantry were armed with some sort of muzzle loading firearm . Go back much further and you have to deal with some infantry units where this is not the case and much later and you have to start dealing with the complexities of breach loading artillery and small arms.

Think the 1859 campaign in Northern Italy is ok because while rifled artillery was used this was at the ranges normal for smoothbores as the terrain was not that open.

Finally fear this may be to late but it would be really cool if all the counter art for each of the 22 colours could be located in a single TIFF file and these made selectable by file name so that it would be easy to make up extra counter sets.

Any thoughts?

Ian



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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 11/27/2005 6:08:38 PM   
Le Tondu


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Holly Molly Batman. You sure don't ask for small things. I'm just trying to get us all a simple update on the general state of the game.

It is obvious that you want to mod the heck out of the game. Nothing wrong with that, but I am willing to bet that at this time, any period other than the Napoleonic is of the lowest imagineable priority. I'm also willing to bet that getting the game out is tops.

Now, keep in mind that Tim has already addressed modding for other periods and for that, the search function will come in handy.

Anyways, I doubt they would be too forthcoming with much of your requested information if they were going to bring out a game that covered your time periods. Why cut the legs out from under themselves?

Cheers,
Rick

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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 11/28/2005 4:01:13 AM   
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very valid comments. The game will be moddable as much as possible (basd on the current design).

I think it will work for some other periods, but there are always issues when expanding beyond the designated time frame.

No data to provide right now...I have a test set I use, but the numbers will change when full up play testing starts.

You have an extreme level of detail in the post...these things can be modded with the fire/melee tables, terrain modifiers, individual unit modifiers...but they would still be abstract since the game will never reach the level of detail of determining the units type of ramrod.

I look forward to your feedback once I have some data to present.

Tim

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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 11/30/2005 3:22:32 PM   
rich

 

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Status: offline 		Could be worthwhile factoring in different musket types for the Napoleonic period (let alone for attempting to cover other eras), especially if Napoleon in Egypt or Wellesley in India are likely to be covered, since most of the Turks and Indians probably had matchlocks rather than flintlocks. But this should only affect rate of fire (probably not all that significant) and effectiveness in wet weather (certainly more important!) rather than range.

Rich

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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 12/1/2005 4:12:47 PM   
Tim Coakley

 

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the game is set with one type of generic musket...the various types could be modled by changing the unit fire modifier.

If (when) I do another game in the future, I have a plan to allow the level of detail you are looking for, but it wont't be in BPW:BoN.

Tim

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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 12/1/2005 5:59:55 PM   
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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 12/1/2005 9:30:32 PM   
Ursa MAior

 

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Status: offline 		It may be a bit offtopic, but will there be a campaign element (or sort of) included in the game or just fighting very detailed battles?

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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 12/2/2005 2:24:16 AM   
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IIRC, a campaign element is planned if BoN does well. Read more here :

http://www.doubleshotdesign.com/games.htm

Cheers,
Rick

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RE: Say Tim, what are the chances? - 12/2/2005 2:40:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thx, next time I'll do my homewrok properly, before asking.

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