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Ron Saueracker -> RE: Analysis of Naval Gunnery Combat (3/19/2006 2:14:53 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Mogami
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ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
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ORIGINAL: irrelevant
Nov 5, 1940: After the sinking of the refrigerator ship Mopan (5389 t) the Admiral Scheer attacks the convoy HX 84 at 52°45'N, 32°13'W. consisting of 37 merchants. While the auxiliary cruiser Jervis Bay defends the convoy and is sunk, the main body can escape. The total loss of HX 84 are:
Jervis Bay (14164 t)
Maidan (7908 t)
Trewellard (5201 t)
Kenbame Head (5225 t)
Beaverford (10042 t)
Fresno City (4955 t)
Three other merchants with 27844 t are damaged.
That's the point...one warship is capable of doing this level of damage despite an AMC sacrificing itself so the merchies can scatter. In WITP a TF can't do this even with one or no escorts.
Hi, Ron this is you doing it to me. Or did you forget this one? A 3 ship TF hammers the escorts and gets many of the transports as well. (this was the 2nd attack by your TF)
Japanese Ships
PC Showa Maru #5, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
PC Ch 6, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
AP Kashiwa Maru
AP Keizan Maru
AP Kenshin Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kensho Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kidokawa Maru
AP Kiri Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kisaragi Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Meisho Maru, Shell hits 22, and is sunk
AP Mikage Maru #2
AP Mikage Maru #20, Shell hits 1, on fire
AP Minowa Maru
AP Minryo Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Minto Maru
AP Mitsu Maru #3
AP Montoiru Maru
AP Shirogane Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Sumanoura Maru, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AP Syoryu Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tafuku Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Taihei Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Takayo Maru
AP Tanba Maru
AP Tasmania Maru, on fire
AP Tatsuho Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Yamakuni Maru, on fire
AP Yubae Maru
AP Zenyo Maru, on fire
AP Palao Maru
AP Senkai Maru
AP Niitaka Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Meizan Maru, on fire
AP Yamato Maru, on fire
Allied Ships
CL Dragon, Shell hits 1
CL Durban
DD Isis, Shell hits 2
Japanese ground losses:
876 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Two important aspects of this.
1) Only 2 escorts, both of which do their job as always and take it in the chin for the convoy. (I rarely, if ever, see any transports engaged aside from a shot or two, until all escorts are destroyed, even when one or more of the escorts are "off doing something else"). Once the escorts are sunk, only 4 ships of the 32 get any attention.
2) I've always believed that smaller TFs outperform larger TFs in WITP because the model is flawed and does not consider operational maximums. So, a small TF usually dishes out equal amounts of fire as a larger TF because all the model does is trade fire. Kung Fu!
In this example, a three ship TF does worse than a single slower ship (Scheer).
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