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RUPD3658 -> RE: The empire crumbles (12/14/2006 6:05:11 AM)
quote: Not shown is the secret location of the US 6th Army, which has yet to be commited to the current offensive Just remember our house rule: 90 days warning if you want to go North of Batavia. [:-]

KDonovan -> RE: The empire crumbles (12/14/2006 3:00:28 PM)
quote: Just remember our house rule: 90 days warning if you want to go North of Batavia. thought it was 30 days??....this is from page 8 of our AAR...quoted by yourself quote: All I would add is that due to the free passage rules we declare the IO from North of Batavia to be a neutral zone. Allies can't send ships to India through here and Japan will not station subs/warships in the area and will stand down air coverage of the area. If the Allies wish to attempt to retake India by sea I would ask for a 30 day notice prior to any ships enetering this area so the AC can be reactivated and repositioned. Are the US troops going to come by sea or the teleport rule? Either is fine but I might ask for a cap on the number of teleporting units.

RUPD3658 -> RE: The empire crumbles (12/14/2006 3:22:58 PM)
Sorry. Memory is getting fuzzy. 30 days is correct.

RUPD3658 -> A view of the future (12/15/2006 1:51:20 AM)
No more low hanging fruit to be picked in my empire. MSWs trying to prep for a landing at Lunga get a taste for what future landings will be like. AA units should do the same to any bombers that come calling. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/20/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 33,56 Japanese Ships MSW Tama Maru #2 MSW W.15 Allied Ships SS Harder -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12486 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3003 Defending force 355976 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12473 Allied ground losses: 365 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/21/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1024 encounters mine field at Tulagi (68,96) Allied Ships MSW Sheldrake MSW Motive MSW Heed MSW Swallow MSW Starling MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Katoomba MSW Junee MSW Gympie MSW Glenelg MSW Dubbo MSW Cowra MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1024 encounters mine field at Lunga (67,97) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 360 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships MSW Sheldrake, Shell hits 1, on fire MSW Motive, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Heed, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Swallow, Shell hits 31, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Starling, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Katoomba, Shell hits 2, on fire MSW Junee, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage MSW Gympie, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Glenelg MSW Dubbo, Shell hits 27, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Cowra, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 57,81 Allied aircraft Beaufighter Mk 21 x 16 P-40N Warhawk x 15 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AG AG-364, Shell hits 16, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AG AG-356, Shell hits 28, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AG AG-359, Shell hits 16, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12466 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3002 Defending force 356519 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12477 Allied ground losses: 370 casualties reported

KDonovan -> RE: A view of the future (12/15/2006 2:47:59 AM)
quote: TF 1024 encounters mine field at Lunga (67,97) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 360 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships MSW Sheldrake, Shell hits 1, on fire MSW Motive, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Heed, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Swallow, Shell hits 31, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Starling, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Katoomba, Shell hits 2, on fire MSW Junee, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage MSW Gympie, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Glenelg MSW Dubbo, Shell hits 27, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Cowra, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Cootamundra idiots...they were sent to Tulagi...not Lunga[:@]

RUPD3658 -> RE: A view of the future (12/15/2006 3:39:13 PM)
Ah..my changing of the road signs is showing results. [:D]

ny59giants -> RE: A view of the future (12/15/2006 5:39:10 PM)
Probably had one of those "90 day wonders" leading the TF. Cannot trust those new guys. [:D][:D]

RUPD3658 -> RE: A view of the future (12/16/2006 1:20:31 AM)
MSW Junee sank today. Score one more for the CD guns.[:D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/22/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 27,54 Japanese Ships APD APD-46 APD APD-31 APD APD-2 APD APD-1 DD Michishio Allied Ships SS Blackfish, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12466 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3001 Defending force 356191 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12468 Allied ground losses: 126 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/23/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12427 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3002 Defending force 356273 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12467 Allied ground losses: 717 casualties reported

RUPD3658 -> RE: A view of the future (12/16/2006 7:47:58 PM)
May have turned the corner at Chungking again. AV is starting to drop again after 30 days of increases. I had spotted AC on the ground there but have not been able to strike due to constant thunderstorms Last of the MSWs (Starling) damaged at Lunga also sank AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/24/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 33,55 Allied Ships SS Gurnard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12447 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3003 Defending force 356215 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12445 Allied ground losses: 308 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/25/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 57,45 Japanese Ships PC Ch 21 PC Ch 5 PC Takunan Maru #10 PC Shonon Maru #11 PC Shonan Maru #2 PC Sonan Maru #6 PC Kyo Maru #12 PG Seiko Maru PG Okuyo Maru PG Myoken Maru PG Kure Maru #5 PG Kozan Maru PG Keiko Maru PG Kanko Maru PG Kaiun Maru Allied Ships SS Flying Fish -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 57,45 Japanese Ships PC Ch 21 PC Ch 5 PC Takunan Maru #10 PC Shonon Maru #11 PC Shonan Maru #2 PC Sonan Maru #6 PC Kyo Maru #12 PG Seiko Maru PG Okuyo Maru PG Myoken Maru PG Kure Maru #5 PG Kozan Maru PG Keiko Maru PG Kanko Maru PG Kaiun Maru Allied Ships SS Flying Fish -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 64,78 Japanese Ships AG AG-2065, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Sunk Allied Ships SS KXVIII -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Ulithi at 55,67 Japanese Ships MSW Toshi Maru #7 MSW Toshi Maru #2 MSW Seki Maru #3 MSW Fumi Maru #2 MSW Banshu Maru #8 MSW Asahi Maru Allied Ships SS Pargo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 33,55 Japanese Ships TK Toen Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Sunk Allied Ships SS Gurnard, hits 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 48,55 Allied Ships SS Raton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1094 encounters mine field at Truk (63,78) Allied Ships PT PT-333, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12457 troops, 402 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3002 Defending force 356069 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12434 Allied ground losses: 314 casualties reported

KDonovan -> RE: A view of the future (12/18/2006 2:47:12 AM)
OT - we are now in the top 15 of most AAR posts!!....woohoo!!

KDonovan -> Phase II Complete (12/18/2006 4:31:37 AM)
Phase II of Operation Animal is complete. The last and final phase (and the biggest) will commence shortly, once the major assetts are in place. Goals of Phase III?? The destruction of about 150,000-200,000 japanese troops and the destruction of the KB. I expect this part of the operation to be the bloodiest since the battle for Port Moresby a few months back.

RUPD3658 -> RE: Phase II Complete (12/18/2006 4:52:27 AM)
Who says the KB will come out to play? [;)] 5 air and 2 ASW attacks on the SS pargo result in only 1 hit. Worse yet, a MSW in a ASW TF was sunk by a sub. My ASW forces blow. [:@] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/26/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Ulithi at 55,67 Japanese Ships MSW Toshi Maru #1 MSW Tokuho Maru #5 MSW Rikusen Maru MSW Noshiro Maru #2 MSW Kyo Maru #5 MSW Hakata Maru #7 Allied Ships SS Pargo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Ulithi at 55,67 Japanese Ships DD Hakaze DD Minekaze DD Hatakaze DD Satsuki DD Kisaragi DD Akebono DD Arashio DD Hagikaze DD Arashi DD Tokitsukaze DD Amatsukaze DD Hayashio DD Oyashio Allied Ships SS Pargo, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12486 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3000 Defending force 356284 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12447 Allied ground losses: 540 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/27/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1143 encounters mine field at Shortlands (63,93) TF 1143 troops unloading over beach at Shortlands, 63,93 Allied ground losses: 57 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1175 encounters mine field at Munda (64,95) TF 1175 troops unloading over beach at Munda, 64,95 Allied Ships AK Admiral Chase, Mine hits 1 Allied ground losses: 11 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 34 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1143 encounters mine field at Shortlands (63,93) TF 1143 troops unloading over beach at Shortlands, 63,93 Allied Ships AK San Vincente, Mine hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 17 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 86 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1175 encounters mine field at Munda (64,95) TF 1175 troops unloading over beach at Munda, 64,95 Allied ground losses: 46 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 24,57 Japanese Ships MSW Shonan Maru #7 MSW Shintohoku Maru MSW Shawa Maru #10 MSW Musashi Maru MSW Mejima Maru MSW Kyo Maru #3 MSW Kongo Maru #2 MSW Hinode Maru #20 MSW Hinode Maru #18 MSW Hinode Maru #17 MSW Hanata Maru #6 MSW Eguchi Maru MSW Choun Maru #18 MSW Choun Maru #6 MSW Asahi Maru #2 MSW W.13 MSW W.9 Allied Ships SS Barb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 37,61 Japanese Ships AK Kenyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1 Allied Ships SS Rasher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 24,57 Japanese Ships MSW Hinode Maru #17, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Shonan Maru #7 MSW Shintohoku Maru MSW Shawa Maru #10 MSW Musashi Maru MSW Mejima Maru MSW Kyo Maru #3 MSW Kongo Maru #2 MSW Hinode Maru #20 MSW Hinode Maru #18 MSW Hanata Maru #6 MSW Eguchi Maru MSW Choun Maru #18 Allied Ships SS Barb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12472 troops, 402 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3002 Defending force 355398 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12419 Allied ground losses: 348 casualties reported

KDonovan -> Jap Pilot Defects to the Allies (12/18/2006 5:45:49 AM)
Great news today as LT Matsumura defected to the Allies, landing his crumy float plane on the island of Emirau. [image]local://upfiles/18184/CF35EA8A7B744C11BE1BFA45826D2348.jpg[/image]

1EyedJacks -> RE: Jap Pilot Defects to the Allies (12/18/2006 6:19:42 AM)
He is your friend - trust him - <grin>.

RUPD3658 -> RE: Jap Pilot Defects to the Allies (12/18/2006 8:28:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KDonovan Great news today as LT Matsumura defected to the Allies, landing his crumy float plane on the island of Emirau. [image]local://upfiles/18184/CF35EA8A7B744C11BE1BFA45826D2348.jpg[/image] I will exchange the dozen or so British Flight Officers I found in command of CEF units for Lt. Matsumura and his plane. [:D]

RUPD3658 -> RE: Jap Pilot Defects to the Allies (12/18/2006 8:30:49 PM)
Kenny has started his conquest of the Solomons by taking Munda and Shortlands. I will write a second quarter summery after the next turn. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/28/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 48th Naval Guard Unit, at 82,81 Allied aircraft Boomerang II x 11 Beaufort V-IX x 35 B-25J Mitchell x 53 Allied aircraft losses Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 238 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 44,48 Japanese Ships PG Chohakusan Maru PG Chiyo Maru PG Akitsu Maru PG Uji PG Saga PG Tamo Maru #7 PG Tamo Maru #6 PG Takunan Maru #8 DD Suzukaze Allied Ships SS Cabrilla, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12477 troops, 402 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3002 Defending force 355008 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12406 Allied ground losses: 512 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Shortlands Allied Shock attack Attacking force 400 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied max assault: 34 - adjusted assault: 66 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 66 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Shortlands base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Munda Allied Shock attack Attacking force 460 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied max assault: 34 - adjusted assault: 18 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Munda base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/29/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Shortlands (63,93) Allied Ships MSW Cootamundra MSW Glenelg MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Maloelop Base Force, at 82,81 Allied aircraft Boomerang II x 3 Beaufort V-IX x 22 B-25J Mitchell x 37 Allied aircraft losses Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 34 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 22,54 Allied Ships SS Balao -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Shortlands at 63,93 Japanese Ships SS I-178, hits 3 Allied Ships MSW Cootamundra MSW Glenelg MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12453 troops, 402 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3000 Defending force 354394 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12372 Allied ground losses: 304 casualties reported

1EyedJacks -> RE: Jap Pilot Defects to the Allies (12/19/2006 12:19:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KDonovan Great news today as LT Matsumura defected to the Allies, landing his crumy float plane on the island of Emirau. [image]local://upfiles/18184/CF35EA8A7B744C11BE1BFA45826D2348.jpg[/image] Just curious - this is a synching error or is it corrupt data? Is there anything that fixes this or is it permenent?

KDonovan -> RE: Jap Pilot Defects to the Allies (12/19/2006 1:41:51 AM)
quote: Just curious - this is a synching error or is it corrupt data? Is there anything that fixes this or is it permenent? the unit disappeared by next turn, so it must've been some type of sync error

RUPD3658 -> 2nd Quarter 1943 report (12/19/2006 2:58:48 AM)
Overall the last three months have been a stalemate. Score wise I am holding my own and actually scored 35 more points than Kenny (1094 to 1059) this quarter although the VP ratio fell from 3.61 to 3.41. Since 01-01-1943 Kenny has outscored me by only 515 VP (3410 to 2895) and dropped the ratio from 4.26 to the current level. Kenny has taken The Gilberts, New Georgia except for Rabaul, and will have of the Solomons except for Lunga in about a week. For my part the highlights have been evacuations. The troops from PM marched over the Owen Stanley Mountains to Buna and were evacuated by air, sub, and barge to Gastma. They were forced out of there and now have made it to Rabaul where they will make their final stand. They have enoungh supplies to hold out well into 1944. Troops that had been hastily sent to Lae were driven out but were evacuated by air and barge to the Marianas. Overall I have only lost 2 formations despite Kenny�s conquests. I know that wars can�t be won by running away but cutting my losses is a big part of my plan. Speaking of cutting my losses, my new defensive doctrine is not to fight inside the Allied air umbrella. As a result Kwajelain, Ponope, and Truk have been abandoned except for ground troops. The inner defense ring bases are now built up and should be a pain for Kenny to take. The bloodiest landing for Kenny so far was PM and it was held by only 250 AV worth of troops and 3000 mines. The inner ring bases will make this look like a cakewalk. KB almost sortied several times but I chose not to risk it yet. Chungking continues to be a mystery to me. The AV had fallen as low as 10,446 but new US units arrived and the AV went back as high as 12,520. During the same time spotted units has fallen from 125 to 120. I have received a ton of New CEF units and am rebuilding the morale of the old ones so an attack will come in the next few weeks. The planned invasion of Russia was cancelled after I reviewed our house rules and figured out that the CEF could not participate. Kenny agreed that they could do so after Chungking falls, it if falls. Only other real high point was one of my subs hitting the CV Essex with a torpedo. This has put it out of action for most of the last 2 months AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/30/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Shortlands (63,93) Allied Ships MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Glenelg MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1143 encounters mine field at Torokina (63,92) TF 1143 troops unloading over beach at Torokina, 63,92 Allied ground losses: 39 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1175 troops unloading over beach at Vella Lavella, 64,94 Allied ground losses: 26 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Shortlands (63,93) Allied Ships MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Glenelg MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 53,53 Japanese Ships TK Nikkoku Maru Allied Ships SS Greenling -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1115 encounters mine field at Munda (64,95) Allied Ships APD Colhoun APD Ward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Satawal , at 60,74 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 126 LB-30 Liberator x 38 PB4Y Liberator x 18 B-24D Liberator x 135 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 94 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Port hits 2 Port supply hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Catanduanes at 45,55 Japanese Ships AK Tokuwa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Sunk, but the Snapper was 2x by AC Allied Ships SS Snapper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Munda at 64,95 Japanese Ships SS I-32 Allied Ships APD Gregory APD Sands APD McKean APD Colhoun APD Ward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12455 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2998 Defending force 354192 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12368 Allied ground losses: 535 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/01/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Shortlands (63,93) Allied Ships MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Glenelg MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 41,46 Japanese Ships AK Nissyo Maru, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage sunk Allied Ships SS Raton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Munda at 64,95 Japanese Ships SS I-32, hits 2 Allied Ships APD Sands APD McKean APD Gregory APD Colhoun APD Ward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Shortlands (63,93) Allied Ships MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Glenelg MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Satawal , at 60,74 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 132 LB-30 Liberator x 39 PB4Y Liberator x 21 B-24D Liberator x 129 Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 78 casualties reported Port hits 2 Port supply hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12392 troops, 402 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3001 Defending force 354004 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12368 Allied ground losses: 435 casualties reported

KDonovan -> Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/19/2006 6:10:55 AM)
Here's the results and comments of my submarine campaign against the japanese, that i started on Jan. 1943. Before i get into it, let me just state we are playing with Allied sub doctrine ON, so my subs attack less often, and attack at longer range, but also are less likely to suffer DC attacks. The Allied sub doctrine expires in mid 1943. Also the current dud rate is 20% and won't lower to 10% until Sept 1943. So basically, even though i started in Jan 1943, my campaign won't be in full gear until Sept. I have about 110 subs available to me as of now. 40 of them are short leg subs that i mainly use for point defense and patrolling the waters near japanese perimeter bases. The other 70 are my fleet subs that are being used against japanese shipping deep inside japanese territory. Of the 70 fleet subs, i usually only can keep b/t 20-30 on patrol at a time, as the rest are either repairing system damage/DC damage, or are in transet from the war zone to reload/refuel. In the next 6 months, i'll be getting 25 more fleet subs, and should be able to established more advance bases. This will cut down on transet time, and i should be able to double the amount of subs currently on patrol. To the results. As you can see i'm sinking 5 transports for every sub i lose. Not the best ratio, but not bad. The worst part of my results, IMO, is sinking only 4-5 transports per month. At this rate, i will only have sunk another 80 transports by the end of 1944. Luckly i have some things to look forward to. First is the dropping down of the dud rate from 20% to 10%. This will have the effect of claiming one extra transport per month, at the current rate. Second as stated, is the influx of new subs and bases, which should double the amount of transports sunk per month. Lastly, is the expiration of that Allied sub doctrine. With the doctrine implace, i was only getting about 1 sub attack every 4 days. I expect this to double, with its expiration. So in all, i expect my succeses to increase from the current 4-5 transports per month, to 16-18 transports per month in the coming month. This will net me 300 transports by the end of 1944....thats my prediction. [image]local://upfiles/18184/BB8244C155FA4F1CA92A70CAEDF10461.jpg[/image]

RUPD3658 -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/19/2006 3:45:27 PM)
Just imagine how many more ships I would have lost if I had not sunk 20 subs in Manilla Bay. Doesn't look like such a bad move now does it?[;)]

RUPD3658 -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/20/2006 1:56:48 AM)
Bad day for me on the sub front. AK, TK, and MSW all sunk as well as 2 more AKs having to be scuttled. All this for not even a single hit on a US sub. [:(] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/02/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 28,54 Japanese Ships TK Ogura Maru #1, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Sunk Allied Ships SS Gunnel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Munda (64,95) Japanese Ships TK Ogura Maru #1, and is sunk Allied Ships MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Glenelg MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 27,54 Japanese Ships AK Saiko Maru, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Sunk with 1LT Fenwick at the helm. I suspect a traitor[:D] Allied Ships SS Harder -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12486 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3000 Defending force 353458 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12345 Allied ground losses: 262 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/03/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Munda (64,95) Allied Ships MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Glenelg MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 51,44 Japanese Ships AK Unyo Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Sunk Allied Ships SS Tinosa -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 34,48 Japanese Ships APD APD-46 APD APD-31 APD APD-2 APD APD-1 DD Michishio Allied Ships SS Silversides -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Munda (64,95) Allied Ships MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Glenelg MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 34,52 Japanese Ships MSW W.10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Sunk MSW Tomozono Maru #3 MSW Shanan Maru #16 MSW Senyu Maru #2 MSW Seki Maru MSW Kaiyo Maru #3 MSW Choun Maru #21 Allied Ships SS Snook -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 26,55 Japanese Ships AK Borneo Maru, Shell hits 2 Survived only because the sub ran out of torps[:@] Allied Ships SS Harder -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 48th Naval Guard Unit, at 82,81 Allied aircraft SBD Dauntless x 36 Boomerang II x 5 Beaufort V-IX x 27 P-40N Warhawk x 42 B-25J Mitchell x 36 Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 18 damaged Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged P-40N Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 274 casualties reported Guns lost 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12456 troops, 402 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3004 Defending force 353101 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12340 Allied ground losses: 323 casualties reported

KDonovan -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/20/2006 11:42:01 PM)
quote: Just imagine how many more ships I would have lost if I had not sunk 20 subs in Manilla Bay. Doesn't look like such a bad move now does it? not so sure about that. IMO, I think having Allied Sub Doctrine ON had more of an impact. With Allied Sub Doctrine OFF i think going after the Manila Bay subs on turn 1 is a more attractive option. However, after playing as the allies for 1 1/2 years with Allied Sub Doctrine ON, i feel as if that was more of a hinderence on my sub performance, than the lost of 20 subs (w/ defective torps) on turn one. If I had those subs now...i would only be able to field 4-5 more on patrol, probably neting me 5 more tranports sunk at this point. Personally i think Singapore is the best option on turn 1 (with allied sub doctrine ON) as it garuntee's you 2 capital ships sunk from the outset, and probably a number of the DD's. IMO, the Brit DD's are important as they are each worth 300 PP's, that can better spent on releasing the NZ Bde's from New Zealand, or the Tazmania Bde.

RUPD3658 -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/21/2006 4:24:15 AM)
Possible problem: Kwantgung Garrison fell from 8100 to 6500 overnight. manaul cont showed 7570. None of these had any disabled units so it is not a supply issue. I am guessing that a diviion has been eaten by a bug. Russia did not activate and hopefully verything will be back to normal next turn. Kenny's subs continue to weark havoc AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/04/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Munda (64,95) Allied Ships MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Glenelg MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 22,54 Japanese Ships TK Shinkoku Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire Allied Ships SS Gunnel, hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 34,55 Japanese Ships TK Moji Maru, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage sunk Allied Ships SS Rasher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1143 encounters mine field at Torokina (63,92) TF 1143 troops unloading over beach at Torokina, 63,92 Allied Ships APD Sands APD Ward APD Colhoun Allied ground losses: 42 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1175 troops unloading over beach at Vella Lavella, 64,94 Allied ground losses: 28 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1110 encounters mine field at Munda (64,95) Allied Ships MSW Skylark MSW Pursuit MSW Glenelg MSW Cootamundra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 35,54 Japanese Ships AP Chicago Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage sunk Allied Ships SS Snook, hits 1 Japanese ground losses: 126 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 28,54 Japanese Ships AK Borneo Maru, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships SS Harder, hits 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 33,52 Japanese Ships AK Taki Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage sunk Allied Ships SS Silversides -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 30,54 Japanese Ships AP Hakozake Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Allied Ships SS Harder Japanese ground losses: 28 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 6 LB-30 Liberator x 64 PB4Y Liberator x 92 Japanese aircraft losses E8N Dave: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged PB4Y Liberator: 10 damaged Japanese ground losses: 210 casualties reported Guns lost 10 Airbase hits 35 Airbase supply hits 8 Runway hits 133 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 48th Naval Guard Unit, at 82,81 Allied aircraft SBD Dauntless x 24 Boomerang II x 9 Beaufort V-IX x 23 P-40N Warhawk x 35 B-25J Mitchell x 48 Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged Beaufort V-IX: 1 damaged P-40N Warhawk: 1 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 121 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 35,54 Japanese Ships AP Denmark Maru, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships SS Snook, hits 12 Now that is a gun battle! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12398 troops, 397 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3003 Defending force 354623 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12301 Allied ground losses: 84 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/05/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1143 encounters mine field at Torokina (63,92) TF 1143 troops unloading over beach at Torokina, 63,92 Allied Ships APD McKean, Mine hits 1, on fire APD Ward APD Gregory APD Colhoun Allied ground losses: 50 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1175 troops unloading over beach at Vella Lavella, 64,94 Allied ground losses: 12 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 32,54 Japanese Ships AK Gyoun Maru Allied Ships SS Silversides -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1143 troops unloading over beach at Torokina, 63,92 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 6 LB-30 Liberator x 48 PB4Y Liberator x 55 Japanese aircraft losses E8N Dave: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses LB-30 Liberator: 3 damaged PB4Y Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 91 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 65 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 34,55 Japanese Ships PG Unkai Maru #1 PG Tosho Maru Allied Ships SS Rasher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12442 troops, 400 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3004 Defending force 354662 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12291 Allied ground losses: 62 casualties reported

RUPD3658 -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/22/2006 4:10:20 AM)
Thanks to Jwilkerson for figuring out the Kwangtung problem. It seems that units at Taejon do not count towards the garrison total. Freaking Dutch sub left a VH2 mine at Marcus and sank one of my MLs. That hurts. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/06/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 31,47 Japanese Ships PC Ch 30 PC Ch 29 PC Ch 24 PC Ch 23 PC Ch 11 PC Ch 6 PC Kyo Maru #6 Allied Ships SS Blackfish, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 29,54 Japanese Ships AK Gyoun Maru, Shell hits 2 Allied Ships SS Gurnard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1033 encounters mine field at Nauru Island (79,91) TF 1033 troops unloading over beach at Nauru Island, 79,91 Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 35,55 Japanese Ships MSW Choun Maru #6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage sunk MSW Shonan Maru #7 MSW Shintohoku Maru MSW Shawa Maru #10 MSW Musashi Maru MSW Mejima Maru MSW Kyo Maru #3 MSW Kongo Maru #2 MSW Hinode Maru #20 MSW Hinode Maru #18 MSW Hanata Maru #6 MSW Eguchi Maru MSW Choun Maru #18 MSW Asahi Maru #2 MSW W.13 MSW W.9 Allied Ships SS Harder Another lousy ASW TF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Allied aircraft PB2Y Coronado x 5 F-5A Lightning x 5 B-24D Liberator x 193 Allied aircraft losses PB2Y Coronado: 3 damaged B-24D Liberator: 20 damaged Japanese ground losses: 156 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 17 Airbase supply hits 8 Runway hits 150 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 48th Naval Guard Unit, at 82,81 Allied aircraft SBD Dauntless x 22 Boomerang II x 5 Beaufort V-IX x 33 P-40N Warhawk x 38 B-25J Mitchell x 47 Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged Beaufort V-IX: 3 damaged P-40N Warhawk: 4 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 167 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12422 troops, 400 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3003 Defending force 354637 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12295 Allied ground losses: 38 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Torokina Allied Shock attack Attacking force 640 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 44 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 44 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Torokina base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Vella Lavella Allied Shock attack Attacking force 630 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied max assault: 36 - adjusted assault: 74 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 74 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Vella Lavella base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Nauru Island Allied Shock attack Attacking force 138 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 14 Defending force 316 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12 Allied max assault: 18 - adjusted assault: 0 Japanese max defense: 10 - adjusted defense: 10 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 99 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Repelled![sm=00000436.gif] No points scored for LCU losses however -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/07/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 25 encounters mine field at Marcus Island (75,56) Japanese Ships ML Nuwashima, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage sunk[:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 33,51 Japanese Ships AK Yamazato Maru Allied Ships SS Gurnard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Allied aircraft PB2Y Coronado x 6 F-5A Lightning x 7 B-24D Liberator x 207 Allied aircraft losses PB2Y Coronado: 2 damaged B-24D Liberator: 8 damaged Japanese ground losses: 68 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 12 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 179 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Maloelop Base Force, at 82,81 Allied aircraft SBD Dauntless x 11 Boomerang II x 6 Beaufort V-IX x 21 P-40N Warhawk x 24 B-25J Mitchell x 18 Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless: 6 damaged Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged P-40N Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 58 casualties reported Guns lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 48th Naval Guard Unit, at 82,81 Allied aircraft SBD Dauntless x 8 Boomerang II x 3 Beaufort V-IX x 21 P-40N Warhawk x 14 P-38G Lightning x 10 B-25J Mitchell x 22 Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless: 5 damaged P-40N Warhawk: 1 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 40 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12412 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3002 Defending force 355234 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12302 Allied ground losses: 72 casualties reported Chungking has gone up in men and AV again

itchy01ca -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/22/2006 9:06:26 AM)
Well.. THAT was a long read. But VERY interesting. Im also a young wargamer (25) and am watching these reports with interest. There appears to be a few.. discrepancies (BUGS) in your game. 4E bombers were NOWHERE NEAR as effective in real life as they were in the game. B-17s were NOT to be feared by japs, especially not in the early part of the war. B-24/25s and PBYs are another story. In any case, 4E bombers (allied side) TOO STRONG. Another gripe: Chungking Its cut off from supply. This city should have been dead a LONG time ago, even WITH the reinforcement it has been getting. Seems like a bug to me :P I personally think the stats favour the allies when it comes to torpedo duds and sub hits. The jap subs were actually fairly powerful boats .. in the real war there just weren't enough of them. It seems the japs try to hit things but the game itself prevents it.. when in real life they would. Kinda errks me a bit to know of these problems because i really do want to get into PBEM with this game. Seems pretty intense, at least in the beginning. Theres still bugs to work out but im sure with enough time they'll be ironed out. Are you guys upgrading patches as you go along? Anyways GREAT waste of a couple of hours reading and deciphering your maps and AARs. The little comments kept me bursting out in laughter. To the Jap player: Kill all your commanders and start over with fresh forces :P THEY SUCK. You SHOULD be at least surviving but looking at a bunch of raids you made, your betty bombers didnt even have the gutts to brave the flak :P The allied player.. you've got a tough time ahead of you if the jap gets his KB in the game. What DOES KB stand for anyways??/ Good luck to both of you ;) Jeremy 409TFS, RCAF

RUPD3658 -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/22/2006 3:39:42 PM)
Glad to have a new reader. There are several threads (or rants depending on how you view them) discussing both the over effectiveness of 4E bombers and the flawed ground combat system that allows Japan to run the board in China and India. We accept that they are just part of what makes WiTP a great GAME. Some people have a problem with this. WE have had a lot of fun with this game so far. The great thing about PBEM vs the AI is that you have a human on the other end to mess with. [:D] As you can see we both have done unexpected things to turn the other's hair grey.[;)] KB= Kutobutai (Something blossum in Japanese, I don't recall exactly) but basically means the whole Jap CV force commonly reffered to as "The Death Star". Mine is intact save the Akagi and the Junyo which were sunk last May in the Indian Ocean.

KDonovan -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/22/2006 3:51:42 PM)
quote: Mine is intact save the Akagi and the Junyo which were sunk last May in the Indian Ocean you mean save the Kaga and Junyo[:D].

RUPD3658 -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/22/2006 4:03:32 PM)
Damn...my counter intellegence was foiled. By the way, AF is low on fresh water. [:D]

Nikademus -> RE: Sub Warfare Report - July 1943 (12/22/2006 4:05:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RUPD3658 KB= Kutobutai (Something blossum in Japanese, I don't recall exactly) but basically means the whole Jap CV force commonly reffered to as "The Death Star". Kido Butai means Mobile Force........not Blossom.....genius [:'(] This is Blossom.... [image]local://upfiles/452/5FDAF0EF66104723BFDBDB027C90A142.jpg[/image]

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