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JReb -> Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/7/2006 9:35:40 PM)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,218497,00.html NEWPORT NEWS, Va. — Spraying the bubbles from sparkling wine across the enormous gray bow of the USS George H.W. Bush, the Bush family on Saturday christened the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier named after the 82-year-old former president. "I know you join me in saying to our father, President Bush, your ship has come in," the current president said during a ceremony for the last of the Nimitz-class carriers, the CVN 77. The 10th of the Nimitz-class carriers — the largest warships in the world — features technological advancements that make it a bridge to the next generation of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers. Anyone know what the next class will be named?

Ron Saueracker -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/7/2006 11:28:05 PM)
All I can say is the US military in its christening practices is reminding me more and more of some backass banana repuplic with a prima donna dictator adorned with all sorts of fictitious medals than a respected organization. Naming capital ships after living politicians is kinda vain to me.[8\|] Is it just me or what?

Ron Saueracker -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/7/2006 11:29:19 PM)
quote: Anyone know what the next class will be named? I bet the next class will be named much the same as the last few US CVs, after living politicians and civil servants. Just wait until Oprah Winfrey becomes President, actors and talk show hosts will have ships named after them. And I bet when she addresses the nation on the State of the Union it will be changed from a podiom to a coffee table and a couple nice chairs.

dtravel -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/7/2006 11:38:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker quote: Anyone know what the next class will be named? I bet the next class will be named much the same as the last few US CVs, after living politicians and civil servants. Just wait until Oprah Winfrey becomes President, actors and talk show hosts will have ships named after them. And I bet when she addresses the nation on the State of the Union it will be changed from a podiom to a coffee table and a couple nice chairs. wonders if he should remind Ron of the movement to amend the US Constitution just so the current California governator can run for President

Knavey -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/7/2006 11:46:49 PM)
If Arnie can become president, maybe we can name the next one the USS Terminator! [:D]

tsimmonds -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:13:54 AM)
Aircraft Carriers named for great Americans John F Kennedy - charismatic assassinated leader Nimitz - needs no introduction to this forum Dwight David Eisenhower - US President, and US Army General who led the Allied forces to victory over Nazi Germany Carl Vinson - congressman who pushed through Ranger (1924), built up the USN to full strength (Vinson-Trammell), and pushed for new CV designs post-war that led to Forrestal Theodore Roosevelt - Forger of The Big Stick Abraham Lincoln - Preserver of the Union George Washington - Father of his Country John C Stennis - as Chairman of Armed Services Committee and Senate Appropriations Committee, was de facto Father of the Modern US Navy Harry S Truman - nuked Japan, Cold Warrior, author of Truman Doctrine ( "It must be the policy of the United States to support free peoples who are resisting attempted subjugation by armed minorities or by outside pressures.") Ronald Reagan - created the 600-ship Navy of the 1980s, and buried the USSR under an avalanche of military spending, thus winning the Cold War George H. W. Bush - uh...Defender of Kuwait

Oliver Heindorf -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:18:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: irrelevant George H. W. Bush - uh...Defender of Kuwait GHW Bush : the man who helped to re-untie gemrany. Without him, simply it would not have been possible. I just hope that the USN would ever never name a ship after his moron son. A target drone would be too much honor already.

tsimmonds -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:21:20 AM)
quote: GHW Bush : the man who helped to re-untie gemrany. Without him, simply it would not have been possible. Did I sleep through something? Even if so, doesn't merit a carrier. Maybe there should be a German ship named after him.[;)]

wworld7 -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:28:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker All I can say is the US military in its christening practices is reminding me more and more of some backass banana repuplic with a prima donna dictator adorned with all sorts of fictitious medals than a respected organization. Naming capital ships after living politicians is kinda vain to me.[8\|] Is it just me or what? Ron, Naming a ship after an ex-president is okay in my book. The USS Ronald Reagan and the USS George H.W. Bush honor those two presidents. Just as the USS Jimmy Carter (a sub) honors an arguably poor president for his service to the submarine fleet. All three of the above had a serious impact on either promoting world peace or helping those less fortunate in making their lives better. Note: When Cananda builds a CVN then maybe they will name it the "Molsen" but I doubt it. Flipper

GaryChildress -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:29:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker All I can say is the US military in its christening practices is reminding me more and more of some backass banana repuplic with a prima donna dictator adorned with all sorts of fictitious medals than a respected organization. Naming capital ships after living politicians is kinda vain to me.[8\|] Is it just me or what? Hey, when you're the president, might as well sneak a few family members and close friends into the role of honor. [8\|]

wworld7 -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:31:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker quote: Anyone know what the next class will be named? I bet the next class will be named much the same as the last few US CVs, after living politicians and civil servants. Just wait until Oprah Winfrey becomes President, actors and talk show hosts will have ships named after them. And I bet when she addresses the nation on the State of the Union it will be changed from a podiom to a coffee table and a couple nice chairs. I believe it would be nice if CVN-78 was named either The USS Flipper or the USS Wally Flipper

ctangus -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:31:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: irrelevant quote: GHW Bush : the man who helped to re-untie gemrany. Without him, simply it would not have been possible. Did I sleep through something? Even if so, doesn't merit a carrier. Maybe there should be a German ship named after him.[;)] Well, he was a naval aviator. And for the most part he did a good job. I can live with it. Just don't give us a USS Dubya! [X(] [;)]

GaryChildress -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:32:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish quote: ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker All I can say is the US military in its christening practices is reminding me more and more of some backass banana repuplic with a prima donna dictator adorned with all sorts of fictitious medals than a respected organization. Naming capital ships after living politicians is kinda vain to me.[8\|] Is it just me or what? All three of the above had a serious impact on either promoting world peace or helping those less fortunate in making their lives better. Flipper Well you've maybe described Jimmy Carter and possibly Regan from various points of view but how does Bush fit into that picture?

tsimmonds -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:35:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ctangus quote: ORIGINAL: irrelevant quote: GHW Bush : the man who helped to re-untie gemrany. Without him, simply it would not have been possible. Did I sleep through something? Even if so, doesn't merit a carrier. Maybe there should be a German ship named after him.[;)] Well, he was a naval aviator. And for the most part he did a good job. I can live with it. GHWB's major contribution to Naval Aviation was to validate the Lifeguard Submarine concept. If you want to name one after a naval aviator (and what could possibly be more appropriate), how about USS Wade McCluskey?

wworld7 -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:40:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gary Childress Well you've maybe described Jimmy Carter and possibly Regan from various points of view but how does Bush fit into that picture? Do you not give him credit for anything?

dtravel -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:47:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish quote: ORIGINAL: Gary Childress Well you've maybe described Jimmy Carter and possibly Regan from various points of view but how does Bush fit into that picture? Do you not give him credit for anything? Nope.

tsimmonds -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 12:52:25 AM)
I see a padlock in this threads future.[:D]

TOMLABEL -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 1:00:49 AM)
They had better name the next carrier in the new class of carriers the USS Enterprise since the current onE (CVN-65) is nearing the end of its service life. Having a navy without a named carrier USS Enterprise is unthinkable. Just my thoughts. TOMLABEL

tsimmonds -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 1:06:42 AM)
quote: They had better name the next carrier in the new class of carriers the USS Enterprise since the current on (CVN-65) is nearing its service life. Having a navy without a named carrier USS Enterprise is unthinkable. Just my thoughts. Hear hear! [sm=bow.gif]

GaryChildress -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 1:13:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: irrelevant quote: They had better name the next carrier in the new class of carriers the USS Enterprise since the current on (CVN-65) is nearing its service life. Having a navy without a named carrier USS Enterprise is unthinkable. Just my thoughts. Hear hear! [sm=bow.gif] I'll drink to that! Cheers for the Big E. [sm=party-smiley-012.gif] [sm=00001746.gif]

Ron Saueracker -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 1:13:41 AM)
I just think ships named after people should be limited to the deceased. Otherwise it just seems too.... political or something. And whatever happened to naming destroyers and like sized warships after people and leaving the larger ships to be named in a grander fashion? Why are all the capitol ships being named after some damp skinned and limp wristed politician when names like Monitor are overlooked and smaller warships are named after the major battles in American history? I lean towards some sort of pattern or precedent for naming ships. Lately there is no rhyme or reason aside from naming ships after politicians...hardly heroes in my book. Agreed on the Big E.[&o]

ckk -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 4:16:07 AM)
Did Carter do something I missed?

TOMLABEL -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 4:17:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker I just think ships named after people should be limited to the deceased. Otherwise it just seems too.... political or something. And whatever happened to naming destroyers and like sized warships after people and leaving the larger ships to be named in a grander fashion? Why are all the capitol ships being named after some damp skinned and limp wristed politician when names like Monitor are overlooked and smaller warships are named after the major battles in American history? I lean towards some sort of pattern or precedent for naming ships. Lately there is no rhyme or reason aside from naming ships after politicians...hardly heroes in my book. Agreed on the Big E.[&o] Agreed on the politicians!!

ckk -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 4:21:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: irrelevant I see a padlock in this threads future.[:D] Probably But maybe not before Monday[:D]

ckk -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 4:31:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker I just think ships named after people should be limited to the deceased. Otherwise it just seems too.... political or something. And whatever happened to naming destroyers and like sized warships after people and leaving the larger ships to be named in a grander fashion? Why are all the capitol ships being named after some damp skinned and limp wristed politician when names like Monitor are overlooked and smaller warships are named after the major battles in American history? I lean towards some sort of pattern or precedent for naming ships. Lately there is no rhyme or reason aside from naming ships after politicians...hardly heroes in my book. Agreed on the Big E.[&o] Agreed on the politicians Agreed on the Big E Let's get back to naming our capital ships for our greatest heroes

wworld7 -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 4:59:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL They had better name the next carrier in the new class of carriers the USS Enterprise since the current onE (CVN-65) is nearing the end of its service life. Having a navy without a named carrier USS Enterprise is unthinkable. Just my thoughts. TOMLABEL The current Enterprise I believe is scheduled to active for another twenty years or so (maybe longer). My best guess is the 4th or 5th in the new class of CVNs will be named Enterprise. It cannot be done until the current Big is retired. Flipper

dtravel -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 5:23:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: irrelevant I see a padlock in this threads future.[:D] [image]http://www.safelearner.info/downloads/icons/Gif/Padlock.gif[/image] There. Now that's taken care of. [:D]

TOMLABEL -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 6:31:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish quote: ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL They had better name the next carrier in the new class of carriers the USS Enterprise since the current onE (CVN-65) is nearing the end of its service life. Having a navy without a named carrier USS Enterprise is unthinkable. Just my thoughts. TOMLABEL The current Enterprise I believe is scheduled to active for another twenty years or so (maybe longer). My best guess is the 4th or 5th in the new class of CVNs will be named Enterprise. It cannot be done until the current Big is retired. Flipper I'm not so sure. I read on one of the CV-65 Enterprise sites that her planned replacement will be CVX-78 in 2013. At that time she will be 52 years old. [&:] TOMLABEL

wworld7 -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 6:50:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL I'm not so sure. I read on one of the CV-65 Enterprise sites that her planned replacement will be CVX-78 in 2013. At that time she will be 52 years old. [&:] TOMLABEL Tom, Currently, naming of CVX-78 Enterprise is a "wish" (albeit a GOOD one). As with everything in politics WHO KNOWS what will happen. My vote is for Enterprise, but I hate to see the current put down before her time. Especially if as I expect CVX-78 is not named the same. Flipper

Ron Saueracker -> RE: Slightly OT: Last of the Nimitz class CVs Christened (10/8/2006 7:09:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish quote: ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL I'm not so sure. I read on one of the CV-65 Enterprise sites that her planned replacement will be CVX-78 in 2013. At that time she will be 52 years old. [&:] TOMLABEL Tom, Currently, naming of CVX-78 Enterprise is a "wish" (albeit a GOOD one). As with everything in politics WHO KNOWS what will happen. My vote is for Enterprise, but I hate to see the current put down before her time. Especially if as I expect CVX-78 is not named the same. Flipper Sounds like you think some twat will be named as opposeed to the deserving... Bummer!

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