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Doggie -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 4:39:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1




They never gave expecting to be paid back though chickenshit, that's the beauty of real friendship. Pity you don't seem to have experienced it before. But I'm sure Dogshit has your back. Actually, I've seen the way your friends all treat each other. Maybe we are describing two entirely different situations.




Click here to see Lester make new friends and demonstrate his superior wit and intelligence


How's that writing career coming along? This was certainly one of your best works, and truly indicative of your artistic talent.



KG Erwin -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 5:46:22 AM)

Doggie, there was no need for that. I see where you are coming from, so you can crawl back into your cave now. [8|]


This thread can now be locked down.



Doggie -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 6:28:32 AM)

No need for a look at Les in his own words?  Oh, I get it.  Lester's own words are a "personal attack"

And yeah, 'chickenshit" and "dogshit", that's kewl, but me answering back, well, "there's no need for that."

"Quick, somebody lock the thread, somebody's making a fool out of my pal Les."  I can crawl back in my cave, but you can continue with your ubiquitious cheap shots, then whining to moderators to lock everything down after you get your two cents in.

Aint that the way you operate, "Gunny"?  Say, what do you think of people who give themselves titles they haven't earned?  Would it be OK with you if other people started calling themselves "Colonel"?  Did you know the eagle, globe and anchor is something recruits and naval corpsmen have to earn the right to wear?  How did you earn the title of "Gunny"?  Do you know that real veterans find it highly offensive when wanna-bes assume titles they haven't earned?



Zap -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 6:59:26 AM)

KG, I compare this forum to going to your local (coffe shop/pub) only here its your international pub/coffee shop. You sit down and have small talk coversation .
Like in a coffe shop/pub many of those you meet never become best friends. But it sure is good to have that interaction (being the social animals we are) whatever the level it is.
Fortunately, the people who visit this forum have demonstrated a certain level of maturity. I'm sure we would be suprised to learn the amount of smarts the participants in this particlar Forum have. So I must admit that I'm guilty of having enjoyed being a participant in this forum. I've sat before the computer reading some of the posts and find myself laughing at some of the exchanges between posters. My wife becomes a little jealous wonders why I'm having such a good time without her.[:D] So I look at it as a wealth not as something tragic.

An interesting thing about participating in this forum is we are communicating with people whom, if; we had known them personally we might never have considered him/her as someone we would even be interested in striking up a friendship with. So that is a positive as I see it.

Though I agree, nothing beats having a friend you could talk with face to face.

In response to your point I would add this bit of perspective. Modern life is so busy for us, we are constantly on the move. Things change which are beyond us to control and demands are made on our lives making it very hard to establish lasting male (best) friendships. And I don't like this about my life at all! Give me the old days when the world was more layed back. You actually had time visit with your neighbors and get to know people. Not like today, the world seems to be on a steady diet of pure adreneline. And I am unfortunately caught on this roller-coaster ride which I don't necessarily want to be on.

Although talking about male themes in forums is less desirable than a best long term friend. I have to take what is good about it and so I'll reach out over the backyard fence and toast you KG.[sm=00000436.gif]

I did say participants here showed a level of maturity but I did forget to mention about the occasional diagreements[&:]

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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

It is both comical and tragic. For me, really, the place to take about "man stuff" has turned out to be the forums.






Veldor -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 7:09:59 AM)

It would be a shame to see this thread locked.

It's an even bigger shame that some would choose direct personal attacks instead of contributing to the discussion.

That is why I hate the Matrix Forums.

No Rules, People Just Do Whatever They Want... And Get Away With It.

People don't contribute crap and their only posts are too attack others and no steps are taken by anyone at Matrix.

It has happened before, it will happen here again. The people involved change but the tone here never does.

You two don't hardly even post here anymore. I don't give a crap what Les said on your forum a year and a half ago or what argument you got into with Gunny 3+ years ago. Let it go already or at least have the decency to start a new thread.

Why are you even reading this thread if you don't care for the topic? To laugh and make jokes for those that are more open to share something personal? Are you too insecure to share your own thoughts and opinions on the topic?

I'm waiting for your legitimate input on this topic so the thread can continue along as it was before you all smashed it...






Veldor -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 7:20:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Zap
In response to your point I would add this bit of perspective. Modern life is so busy for us, we are constantly on the move. Things change which are beyond us to control and demands are made on our lives making it very hard to establish lasting male (best) friendships. And I don't like this about my life at all! Give me the old days when the world was more layed back. You actually had time visit with your neighbors and get to know people. Not like today, the world seems to be on a steady diet of pure adreneline. And I am unfortunately caught on this roller-coaster ride which I don't necessarily want to be on.


Is it possible that as men get older they are just too lazy to keep a majority of their friendships going? Time is obviously a factor, but with some minimal effort lack of time alone shouldn't be the cause for friendships to evaporate away. I think with the Internet and all the home-based entertainment etc. that most of us have available we simply get lazy. Maybe in some cases our wives more-or-less run our lives/social schedule and its simply easier for us that way.

Long-lasting friendships are like children in one way... We may not have time or want to make time for them now (or even have them at all) but later in life damn do you wish you had done so. Cuz suddenly all that hussle and bussle dies down... You have a ton of time on your hands... And its damn lonely.

Of course thats all speculation. I'm not nearly that old yet, but hoping to avoid that type of situation myself...



Zap -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 7:45:28 AM)

Hi Veldor,

You have a point about laziness and i'll agree that can be a factor. But I would say that is just one factor in the puzzle. What about friends maturing as time goes on and the other friend does not grow you need to leave that friendship behind.
And the case of someone who realizes after time that although, still a great guy your long time friend does not share your same ethical view. I think in this case you would shy away.

So best friends (longlasting) do change.

I presently have friends but not any really long term friends, say from grade school or high school. So i guess that's were my perspective is coming from.




KG Erwin -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 7:57:27 AM)

Good points, zap & veldor.

Oh, and for the record -- my "Gunny" nickname was given to me by a fellow forumer, to show appreciation for my contributions to SPWaW and my admiration of the USMC. I am not a veteran, so I wouldn't presume for it to imply anything other than that.

Many of us refer to Bill Wilder as "The Colonel", but he's not a combat veteran either.
I wouldn't dare say that he hasn't earned the title.



Les_the_Sarge_9_1 -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 8:16:44 AM)

Don't sweat it people, I have no respect forthcoming from those two, they have zero intention of every being remotely mistaken as interested in being civil to me, the best they can offer is stale posts stored on their forum of hatred (one only has to visit it to see what passes for "friendship").

Thus, they will wait a long time to ever receive anything remotely capable of being mistaken for anything better than what they dish out.

Now on to better matters.



Veldor -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 8:50:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Zap
What about friends maturing as time goes on and the other friend does not grow you need to leave that friendship behind.

Like a friend that just wants to get drunk (or high) all the time and basically "goof off". The funny thing to me about that is that popular media implies that that is about all guys like to do together in the first place.

To me though that particular point goes full circle back to the money issue. To some extent, when your poorer, getting drunk and goofing off is essentially cheap entertainment. One person in the friendship may likely mature faster in part because they get a better job than the other.

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And the case of someone who realizes after time that although, still a great guy your long time friend does not share your same ethical view. I think in this case you would shy away.

Shouldn't a longtime best friend be almost like family? I have ALL kinds of things I disagree and disapprove of within my family and my wifes yet we still all see each other and are 100% civil towards one another (by some miracle). I tend to think its mostly a Jerry Springer redneck thing for family to disown one another (My mama slept wiff my boyfriend). With family you learn to accept the difference and move past it...I wonder why it doesn't seem to work the same way with longtime friends (Perhaps for some it does). Or am I mistaken that family gets treated differently?
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I presently have friends but not any really long term friends, say from grade school or high school. So i guess that's were my perspective is coming from.

These days many kids change schools and such at least once if not many times. Though I never did, many of my friends did, so in the end I was left with none remanining that I still knew from those days. A few of my more casual highschool friends did contact me at one point but it never really went anywhere due to the above mentioned differences in maturity/values we no longer really clicked. My best friend from college ended up getting involved with a fairly weird girl I think perhaps my job/life was just too normal in comparison and again we just could no longer click again.

@ KG and anyone else... The whole veteran/title name thing is really bizarre to me. I no more would think someone online with the name Colonel So-and-so is actually a colonel than I would think anyone online with the name Doctor So-and-so was actually a doctor. Does a doctor get insulted to see people with names like "Doctor Death" etc? Especially if said character doesn't go around posing as if they are a real doctor? Perhaps it is an ego problem in that some people (doctors included) feel they deserve a certain amount of respect any and everywhere just because of their particular achievement in life. I think what some may fail to realize is that many of us perhaps even all of us have various accolades. Yet we do not see fit to shove them in others faces or in many cases ever even mention them in the first place.



Les_the_Sarge_9_1 -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 9:20:05 AM)

I picked "Les the Sarge 9-1", because it emulated a Squad Leader counter :)
I might also add, I had an ASL counter long before it was cool to be using VASL images for avatars.

I have never been a "Sarge" and find it funny that any would deride me for calling myself one :) I also use Aries, and no, I am not really the god of war either :) It's just a dumb internet nickname.
The only people that truely matter to me, are known to me by their real world names. And the people that truely care about me, also know the name I was born with too.

I am an Aries though, and as you can see, I bite back. Classic Aries personality, blunt, courageous, all the compassion of a rock. And I have no plans to pretend I can be something other than what I am.

I would actually rather forums didn't use ranks, icons like stars in ranks, reputation functions, or even in some cases post counts.
Not one of you is being measured by any of that by me. You are your post content to me, and nothing else.
Unless you have the term administrator present, you don't impress me.

I know who likes and who dislikes my efforts. And I KNOW the proportions of each too. And I am well aware how little the detractors like it :)

The internet though, is not the only "fake" intensive portion of society, you can find the real deal in real life just as easily.
On the internet, it's merely easier for fakes to show up and suffer no ill effects from the behaviour.
Doesn't make the internet more fake, just more user friend for them.



martxyz -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 2:48:02 PM)

I have no idea what's been going on in this thread since gunny started it. I've read the posts that seem to have deteriorated a bit, from his serious, and really difficult question.

I had wanted to post earlier, but found it really hard. But I might as well throw in my two-penneth. Retaining, or finding, friends does, I think, get harder as you get older. You have a family perhaps, and friends drift off. Since I finished work, I keep contact with two ex-colleagues. They just happen to be married to each other. I also have a friend in Idaho who I've never even met! She and her family have become great mates, although I guess that's not quite what you meant, gunny. Even so, I value them.

Generally I prefer the company of women, or non-testosterone men. In both cases, I've found them generally more thoughtful. It's a bit hypothetical now though, because when you stop working, you lose contact with yet another lot of people.

I don't think I know a single person who I could say would stand by me, come hell or high water (or indeed the reverse) with the exception of my son, who's at Uni, and my ex-wife, who, though  in a new relationship, is still a rock. We would always stand by each other, whatever the cost, even though we couldn't live together :)

I read recently that in the UK, the need for more houses is going to greatly out-strip the very meagre rise in population. This is because people are living older, and because family break-u means more people are living alone. Of those, some will also be very isolated. In the wealthy Northern/Western  hemisphere, my guess is that this will end up as our biggest, and most uncurable disease.

I don't know if any of this post  makes any sense, but thanks for the the thread gunny. I also don't give a damn what people use as a title. I'm more interested in what they've got to say. I also don't think that it's necessary to justify whether or not you support any country's armed forces, or none at all. This is, after all, a forum about games, and not about war.  As long as someone is genuinely polite, thoughtful and friendly, it shouldn't matter, for the purpose of contributing positively to the forum,  whether they support/don't support (or are in the forces of) the US, Poland, Syria, Israel or China.  100% pacifists, might also enjoy the historical aspect of gaming. As someone mentioned earlier, many people contribute to society in ways that may involve thought, commitment, tenacity, and courage, but have nothing to do with the armed forces of any country.

My son is a medical student. He's also heavily into Amnesty International, and issues of world justice. He has a healthy scorn for all warfare. But if he ever joins medicin-sans-frontiers he's going to be at more risk than anybody with a heavy machine gun, and I shall be truly proud of him. [:)]



Les_the_Sarge_9_1 -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 4:24:13 PM)

What I have learned over the years, and it impacts our attitudes towards "friends", is we are merely good at often lying to ourselves where friends are concerned.

Not sure if it is intentional overly positive hopes or just a desire to pick the positive rather than the negative viewpoint. Perhaps we would rather just call a person a friend until we have the reverse shoved on us.

But, not surprisingly, we will call many people friend, when that person hasn't truely been tested. We thus are actually doing a disservice in the process to the actual genuine friends by lessening there worth through casually calling just anyone a friend.

You will in the normal routine course of a day meet countless people. Most will not wish you any ill will just for the sake of it. But, merely behaving in a not in your face unfriendly fashion, is not defacto the opposite ie friendly behaviour.

That is the crux of the matter. It is likely that a large portion of the people you have over time claimed as "friends" really were never truely honestly proven out as friends.
Because, a friend is someone that won't just fade away from mere separation. A friend is someone that won't disappear when the thrill is removed.
Friends are not there just for what they can gain out of having you around.

So, if you "knew" say 100 reasonably friendly people at highschool, and of that total, you really only still hang out with 3 by the time you are 40, chances are the rest were likely just casual acquaintances. You probably only knew 3 friends of the calibre that counts for purposes of this thread. It's likely that you only had a chance of making 1-2 additional long term friends from that time, but conditions didn't occur to make it happen.

I have known a great number of people in my life, that were certainly fun to have around in many capacities since my early teens. I knew an entire platoon of close contacts when in the army.
I hung out with a great many persons often nearly daily through my 20s and 30s in the years when I more actively played rolegames.
Some persons I would have definitely called close friends assuming I was correct.
But the brutal truth of the matter is, I knew, and still know, only 3 persons since high school, who remain close friends, regardless of long spans of time when we moved away periodically.

I have one friend currently residing in Texas, whom I will be very lucky to be able to visit with directly face to face in the future.
But, I am also aware, that a real important life issue for one of us, would not go unnoticed by the other, even though there is a rather sizable walk separating us.
I have one friend that lives a hour drive away. I might see the person once in a year. But, that one day visit means more to me, than the ability to associate daily with some others.
Daily acccess will not improve a real friendship.

So, when we ponder our own personal friendships, we need to keep in mind, we often talk ourselves into friendships that are not really there.
Neighbours can just get up and move. Coworkers can get new jobs. Drinking partners that frequent the same watering hole can find other places to be. Persons with initially similar interests can have those interests change.
Real friends are friends because they truely DO want to be with you. It's personal, not situational.
You can't buy a friend. And a friend is not an expense.



.50Kerry -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 6:26:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

How many of you have what you consider to be male best friends? I've had a few over the years, but for one reason or another, we always went our separate ways. The last guy that I considered a best friend died of cancer.



That is part of life with any friend. Sorry to hear one of your "close" friends passed because of cancer, nasty business. My best friend and I have been around one another to varying degrees since I was six years old.

Any friendship that deep is hard to "just find", the thing is you need to understand and accept friendships evolving over time.
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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin
Now, I am surrounded by some loving women (my wife and daughter), but I don't have any close male friends anymore. That's one of the reasons I haunt the forums so much. It may sound strange to some of you, but for a heterosexual male, it ain't that easy to make new friends that you can trust.

Does anyone else feel that way?


You need to get out more, and maybe find a hobby store with wargamers in the flesh. Intimacy is something becoming harder to find, not easier thanks to "the digital millenia".....





.50Kerry -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 6:30:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Doggie, there was no need for that. I see where you are coming from, so you can crawl back into your cave now. [8|]



Yeah Lord knows Lester is the living icon of comity and civility.
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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin
This thread can now be locked down.

Status quo ante, allow me to translate for you.....

"I(or my ally) have made my rant and wish to see no further ranting, 'golly I guess I broke the rules but no need for further breaking'...etc etc etc"

Good to see things seldom change.



Reiryc -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 8:41:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Doggie, there was no need for that. I see where you are coming from, so you can crawl back into your cave now. [8|]


This thread can now be locked down.


No doubt you are ready to tell les that there was no need for his attack on chicken and doggie as well....lest you be called a hypocrite.



mjk428 -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 10:53:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

This thread can now be locked down.


[:D]

You seem to enjoy calling for threads to be locked as much as the clueles canadian enjoys pixelated porn.

FYI -

This thread went off the tracks when the aforementioned called a woman a "bitch" & "weird bitch" just because she had a problem with Uncle Les exposing her teenage son to the wonders of 'adult' anime.

"chickenshit" & "dogshit" were uncalled for as well.





Doggie -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 11:41:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Veldor



It's an even bigger shame that some would choose direct personal attacks instead of contributing to the discussion.


It's a shame some people can't determine who started the 'direct personal attacks" when it's right in front of them in black and white. Pardon, I keep forgetting calling me "dogshit" is merely polite conversation, while me answering back is "uncalled for."


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No Rules, People Just Do Whatever They Want... And Get Away With It.


Yep, the Katzenjammer kids have been doing whatever they want and getting away with it, then whining for threads to be locked when the sane people have finally had enough.

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People don't contribute crap and their only posts are too attack others and no steps are taken by anyone at Matrix.

It has happened before, it will happen here again. The people involved change but the tone here never does.


Indeed. The whining e-mailers never shut up.

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You two don't hardly even post here anymore. I don't give a crap what Les said on your forum a year and a half ago or what argument you got into with Gunny 3+ years ago. Let it go already or at least have the decency to start a new thread.


I did let it go. And then I come here and browse through a few threads and I still see "Gunny" posting his Moveon.org agiprop and screaming for the thread to be locked before anybody can answer, and Lester the molester is still posting his quaint homilies about prepubescent anime porn and calling me "dogshit." But me talking back, well that's "uncalled for."

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Why are you even reading this thread if you don't care for the topic? To laugh and make jokes for those that are more open to share something personal? Are you too insecure to share your own thoughts and opinions on the topic?


I am sharing my opinions on the topic. You little brownshirts just don't want any opinions "shared" around here but yours. That's why you're always whining.

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I'm waiting for your legitimate input on this topic so the thread can continue along as it was before you all smashed it...


This enough 'legimate input" for ya, ya crybaby? Anything that hasn't been made clear to ya?







Doggie -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/27/2006 11:51:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin



Oh, and for the record -- my "Gunny" nickname was given to me by a fellow forumer, to show appreciation for my contributions to SPWaW and my admiration of the USMC. I am not a veteran, so I wouldn't presume for it to imply anything other than that.


And I gave you another nickname - "wanna be", and "troll." And there's more than one fellow forumer who thinks you've earned it.

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Many of us refer to Bill Wilder as "The Colonel", but he's not a combat veteran either.
I wouldn't dare say that he hasn't earned the title.


Bill Wilder doesn't inject his hatefull political agenda into threads about wargaming and then go crying to moderators to lock the thread before anybody can talk back.

This one:

[image]http://publish.hometown.aol.com/kenkbaran/images/resized%20white%20card.gif[/image]

we got no problems with. You worked on a Screaming eagles campaign game. Good for you.

Posting a Marine Division patch, the Iwo flagraising, and calling yourself "Gunny" is over the line. You aint a marine. You never shouldered a ruck and don't have the right to wear the uniform or display the symbols of the Marine Corps. That's a right Marines earn.



TheHellPatrol -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 12:45:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1

To the guys worried this topic sounds too girly :)

Hey, I could always go back to the usual stuff like RTS rots your brain :)

I'm glad KG opened a thread where for once we could actually discuss something tangible, that actually does have some worth.
Any man who would post that, "too girly", is probably wearing pink panties at the moment[:'(]. Really, there is nothing wrong with a man showing his feelings and not being afraid to shed a tear if needed. I have MANY girl "friends" and my wife is my best friend because i am open about what's in my heart and on my mind.
As a 6'7" 294 lb. ex football player with tattoos etc. many people find that (me) quite "odd" but oh well...I am what i am[;)].



martxyz -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 12:50:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Doggie

Indeed. The whining e-mailers never shut up.



Apparently not.



Veldor -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 2:51:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Doggie
It's a shame some people can't determine who started the 'direct personal attacks" when it's right in front of them in black and white. Pardon, I keep forgetting calling me "dogshit" is merely polite conversation, while me answering back is "uncalled for."

From this threads perspective, we all know ChickenSalad started it. No Les may not have responded in the best way, but given the comment he had to respond to it could have been left alone instead of posting further attacks.

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I did let it go. And then I come here and browse through a few threads and I still see "Gunny" posting his Moveon.org agiprop and screaming for the thread to be locked before anybody can answer, and Lester the molester is still posting his quaint homilies about prepubescent anime porn and calling me "dogshit." But me talking back, well that's "uncalled for."


Be the bigger man. I'd hardly consider myself anywhere near Les's biggest fan. Since we are drudging up the past I could link a few 3 year old threads to prove it. But I will say he certainly appears to have more interest and input on what these forums are actually about and here for. Matrix Games. Something that looking at your posting history, you've never ONCE posted about. Maybe I missed one but do you even play any Matrix Games? What exactly are you here for? Wrong as Les may be he seems the better fit.

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You little brownshirts just don't want any opinions "shared" around here but yours. That's why you're always whining.

Amazing how much name calling you do in one post to someone who called you nothing.

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This enough 'legimate input" for ya, ya crybaby? Anything that hasn't been made clear to ya?

More name calling and I'm confused how this post is anymore legitimately on topic than your previous ones in this thread. Unless this is your way of asking to be friends.



TheHellPatrol -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 2:53:36 AM)

[X(]Whoops! Look like i got in right in the middle of a firefight in Da-Nang with only light weaponry[:D]. This post "DID" change directions a few times indeed...damn speed reading classes. "Can't we all just get along?" or i'll fire a warning shot right in the middle of your forehead MUTHERF#@#@#![:D]



ShermanM4 -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 3:08:44 AM)

[>:][8|]Its hard to imagine why the Art of Wargamming Forum was closed down and moved.

Anyway, KG, to your point I think in this day in age there are not enough men who are good friends. I think many men are associates and have a few things in common, but they are not truly a "Band of Brothers." My best friend in the whole-wide world I met in the 3rd grade. We've been great friends ever since. It requires little effort now, but I remember a time in high school and college in which it was not so easy to be friends. Different interests, different classes, different majors (we went to different Universities) different girl friends, different crowd etc etc etcl..... I think some guys just aren't willing to work hard to preserve something that good. We did and it was not easy. Now we are still great friends and always will be. [8|][8|][8|]



UndercoverNotChickenSalad -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 3:09:39 AM)

Last few times Mo' had committed electronic suicide on his nick. and nixed his own forum for the umpteenth time, I figured out that he always comes back. Nobody loves Mo' as much as Mo', he always resurects. Then he gets worse an worse, he'll eventually have a meltdown in front of everybody, then he'll delete himself. Couple days later he'll be spotted slinking around w/ Dave and his backslappers, where its safe [8|]



KG Erwin -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 3:16:22 AM)

Well, Doggie made it obvious that he doesn't like me at all.

I checked out his profile--

"interests: stirring up trouble

occupation: gentleman of LIEsure" (caps added)

I am thankful that this guy isn't a friend of mine. BTW, Doggie, I DO have friends that are combat vets, and a couple of them are Marines. None of them have an issue with my non-veteran status.

Gunny





Les_the_Sarge_9_1 -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 4:15:28 AM)

They're not worth it. They know it.

Pity about the thread. Happens to the best of them.



martxyz -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 11:31:01 AM)

KG/Gunny

You raised an interesting and serious topic. You also mentioned that it was a bit of a delicate subject. Personally, I'm pleased you raised the issue, and I don't think ANY questions about whether or not you are/were in the army are either important or even interesting. This isn't meant to be a forum for us marines, but for people that play games. I found your original post really interesting.

(Incidentally, that wasn't a dig at us marines. It's just a separate issue)

I've noticed that you do from time to time raise questions and issues that have no easy answers, without trying to provide those answers yourself. It's nice to see a bit of admission of uncertainty. Sign of a mind at work. It's also harder to ask difficult, or even embarrassing questions, than to let your testosterone do the talking.

So, cheers mate, whoever you are. [:)]



Doggie -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 7:17:45 PM)

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than to let your testosterone do the talking.


Not much chance of that.

There may come a chance for old friends to get together the day the RCMP starts pulling bodies out from Lester's crawlspace.  You'll be the guy on the BBC saying "I had no idea." 



martxyz -> RE: OT?: Male Companionship (11/28/2006 11:48:40 PM)

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