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Xxzard -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/17/2008 10:06:11 PM)

Surface action with the battlewagons... compelling stuff! (and rare) someone did their job right to get them in, no matter the end result.




John 3rd -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/17/2008 10:50:56 PM)

Yaaa BABY!  Break Out the popcorn...





tocaff -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/17/2008 10:59:01 PM)

WOW!

2 more TFs on the attack to be accounted for yet.

It's a shame that a surface force with a fire support (bombardment) mission isn't loaded with HE ammo and very little AP as happened in real life.  A battle would turn out much differently that way. 




thegreatwent -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/17/2008 11:08:31 PM)

Those poor DEs, sounds very much like they sold themselves dearly. Bravo again CF[&o]




HarryM -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/17/2008 11:08:40 PM)

[:)] Excellent!




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 12:04:30 AM)

November 8, 1944 (center strike force)

Location: ?
Course: ?
Attached to: TF 27
Mission: Surface Combat
System Damage: ?
Float Damage: ?
Fires: ?
Fuel: ?

Orders: Engage enemy forces at Iwo Jima

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The center of the three Japanese task forces that descend upon Iwo Jima is by far the weakest. It is hoped that while the battleship groups attract all the attention the two light cruisers and eight destroyers can get in among the transports. Against thin-skinned targets their massed torpedoes and relatively small main batteries could have a devastating effect.

At first things seem to go well. They cruise unmolested south of the battle involving Ise and Hyuga and approach the island. As they draw within a few miles of the Iwo’s dark, volcanic shores, however, they run into trouble.

The trouble comes in the form of a polyglot flotilla hastily gathered from the minesweeping forces in the area. Anchoring them is heavy cruiser Portland. Also present are a light cruiser and a dozen destroyers and destroyer escorts. Trailing behind and mostly trying to stay out of the way are two dozen minesweepers and subchasers.

The battle that follows is hard-fought but the Allied ships have the preponderance of firepower. The Japanese forces are compelled to withdraw, but not before Portland sinks light cruiser Kiso. Destroyer Hayashio is also sunk. The only casualty on the Allied side is destroyer escort Engstrom.

As the remaining eight Japanese ships turn away all they have really accomplished is to further confuse the situation picture that the Allied command is trying to develop as the morning’s events unfold. Radio reports from ships around the island, some frantic, make it sound as though the Japanese are everywhere. That this is not too far from the truth doesn’t help the situation.

Meanwhile Yamato, Musashi, and their escorts have curled a bit around to the south. Admiral Tashiro judges that with the fighting occurring to the north most of his prey may already be in motion to the south as they seek to escape the conflict. Before the other battles are finished they too enter the waters around the island, seeking targets.





Alikchi2 -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 12:14:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Cuttlefish


Meanwhile Yamato, Musashi, and their escorts have curled a bit around to the south. Admiral Tashiro judges that with the fighting occurring to the north most of his prey may already be in motion to the south as they seek to escape the conflict. Before the other battles are finished they too enter the waters around the island, seeking targets.




Here come the drums! [&o]




Marc gto -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 12:14:40 AM)

wow tense stuff...+




tocaff -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 12:36:00 AM)

2 down, 1 to go.  Good stuff!




vettim89 -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 1:15:11 AM)

It occurs to me the one group we have not heard from yet is Mr. Taffy. There have got to be a bunch of CVE's around some where.




Feinder -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 2:16:14 AM)

Excellent narrative!  CF, did you get any screen shots?

-F-




Moondawggie -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 3:22:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vettim89

It occurs to me the one group we have not heard from yet is Mr. Taffy. There have got to be a bunch of CVE's around some where.


Concur: Taffy should be somewhere, but perhaps history refuses to repeat itself?

"Where is TF 58? The world wonders..."

Nicely laid-out operation, John! We are not worthy! [&o]




Moondawggie -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 3:24:07 AM)

Oops, I mean CF! [:@]




Cribtop -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 3:24:51 AM)

Wow.

I will confess I expressed doubt that any direct confrontation with the US Death Star could possibly succeed.  While we don't yet know the outcome of the entire battle, the clash was brilliantly planned and wonderfully executed.  True, overwhelming firepower or bad die rolls may stop CF, but I have to say even getting this close to a major victory in Nov. '44 is a masterstroke.  I salute you, sir.




Onime No Kyo -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 7:16:46 PM)

Agree wholeheartedly. It was a master stroke. Even if the game engine will routinely preclude you from running amok amongst the transports, it was a valiant effort. Lets see how those big battlewagons fare.

Does anyone remember what happened to the rest of CFs battle line?




cantona2 -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 7:25:31 PM)

Is the Hibiki sailing to her destiny? Even for us AFB's she holds a dear place in our hearts!




Capt. Harlock -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 8:11:15 PM)

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The closest heavy group to the northeast of Iwo Jima is based around battleships California and Oklahoma.


Looks like Shun was right after all with his ship recognition cards! Oklahoma was Nevada's sister ship.

Just a superb story!




CV Zuikaku -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 8:17:19 PM)

I've been reading this AAR for a long time, and what other to say except- GREAT JOB, CUTTLEFISH!
First thing in the morning when I have a coffe break is to check your AAR for updates! [;)]
But you shouldn't sacrifice Zuikaku like that [:(]




mdiehl -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 9:43:44 PM)

I think it'd be really cool if Yamato and Musashi encounter Iowa, New Jersey, and Missouri.




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 9:52:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CV Zuikaku

I've been reading this AAR for a long time, and what other to say except- GREAT JOB, CUTTLEFISH!
First thing in the morning when I have a coffe break is to check your AAR for updates! [;)]
But you shouldn't sacrifice Zuikaku like that [:(]


Aw, sorry about Zuikaku. I really am. That is the Japanese carrier I have the most affection for and it hurt to see her go down. But look on the bright side - in how many games is she still around in November '44 and how often does she get a chance to take a pair of Essex-class carriers down with her? It was a noble end for a proud ship.




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 9:59:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Feinder

Excellent narrative!  CF, did you get any screen shots?

-F-


I did, but only of Hibiki's part of the battle. We will be seeing those shortly.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

Does anyone remember what happened to the rest of CFs battle line?


Even Hibiki's crew isn't sure about the answer to this one. Yamashiro was lost near Timor, they know that. And there are rumors that some battleships and cruisers may have been lost in the big Allied carrier raid on Truk. At least one battleship went down following the Battle of Santa Cruz. It is also known that the Imperial Japanese Navy maintains powerful surface forces at Singapore, guarding against a British attempt to outflank the Mandalay Line by sea.





Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 10:50:10 PM)

November 8, 1944 (southern strike force)

Location: ?
Course: ?
Attached to: TF 27
Mission: Surface Combat
System Damage: ?
Float Damage: ?
Fires: ?
Fuel: ?

Orders: Engage enemy forces at Iwo Jima

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Lieutenant Sugiyura’s gaze keeps straying north, to where he knows that Ise and Hyuga are at the moment engaging enemy battleships. Captain Ishii notices his looks and interprets them correctly.

“You understand, Sugiyura,” he says, not without sympathy, “that if we are to fulfill our mission it is best if we are not drawn into such a battle.”

“Yes, Captain,” says Sugiyura. But the look on his face says that while hunting enemy transports is no doubt necessary he longs for the chance to engage an enemy capital ship.

The southern striking force is currently east-southeast of Iwo Jima and heading west. They have been tracking the battles to the north for over an hour on radar and via radio intercepts but they themselves have seen no sign of the enemy as of yet. No planes, no ships have come out to challenge them.

“Bridge, this is Takahashi,” comes a voice through the speaking tube. “I am picking up new contacts ten miles ahead. They are just clearing the island and moving south, sir.”

Ishii raises an eyebrow. “Transports trying to escape the fighting?” he says to Lieutenant Miharu.

“It seems possible, sir,” says his executive officer. On Hibiki’s crowded bridge several officers raise binoculars and scan the sea ahead, though of course it is not yet possible to see anything.

Apparently other ships have also detected the new force, for Yamato signals a course change 20 degrees to port. As they move to intercept silence falls on Hibiki’s bridge except for an occasional murmur. Everyone waits tensely as they wait to see what they are about to engage.

Before long the enemy ships change course to the west. They have no doubt detected their pursuers and are attempting to evade. This, and the fact that the Japanese ships continue to rapidly narrow the distance, indicates clearly that they have found what they came here to find – enemy transports.

Hibiki’s deck plates thrum as the Japanese increase speed to 26 knots. Before long the masts of enemy ships become visible. Not transports but freighters, big ones, in three columns of six ships each. They are screened by six destroyers, which are even now turning back to meet the Japanese.

The freighters are slow, however, and low in the water. It is obvious that what they have found is the enemy’s main supply convoy. Captain Ishii cannot repress a tight smile of satisfaction. This is a prime target.

The nine Japanese destroyers are deployed forward in a line to meet the oncoming enemy destroyers. Already Yamato and Musashi’s forward turrets are booming, their shots ranging beyond the destroyers to find the freighters. As their big shells churn up huge columns of water among them the freighters begin to spread out and disperse. One 18.1” shell scores a direct hit and the luckless freighter slews to a halt, fire and smoke billowing upward.

On Yamato a pennant flutters upward ordering the destroyers to prepare a torpedo attack. Lieutenant Sugiyura groans.

“Not yet!” he says. “The range is too great. These tubs can’t get away, we should wait!”

“I agree,” says Ishii. “But it is not my decision. Prepare your torpedoes, Lieutenant.” As the range closes to 17,000 meters the Japanese destroyers change course to the south and unleash a swarm of Type 93 torpedoes. As these churn towards the enemy the ships come back around to the west. The range to the destroyers closes rapidly.

“Reload torpedoes!” orders Sugiyura. On the torpedo deck, as they have drilled so many times, Hibiki’s torpedo crews begin the difficult job of reloading the tubes.

Hibiki’s course brings her towards two of the enemy destroyers. At 9000 meters Ishii orders Kuwaki to open fire on the one to port. A moment later Hibiki’s forward 5” guns boom. The shells fall long and to the right. Corrections are made as the guns reloaded.

Their target is the U.S destroyer Benham, whose guns are already firing on Yamato. Benham and Stack have moved out a bit ahead of the others and are heading with single minded determination towards the big battleship. Their determination to launch a torpedo attack is clear.

Ishii orders an abrupt course change to port, screening the battleship and unmasking his rear battery. On the third salvo a cheer erupts from the crew as one of her shells strikes Benham near the base of the tower. A second hit a moment later punches a hole in her weather-streaked flank. Smoke and flame come streaming out as the shell detonates somewhere deep within.

Benham comes around and launches torpedoes. These churn aft of Hibiki and one strikes Yamato near the bows. The big battleship seems to scarcely notice the sting and continues to plunge forward.

The battle devolves into a confused, swirling destroyer duel. The Japanese battleships and cruisers try to remain above the fray and go after the transports but the American destroyers make this difficult. Even as Ishii tries to kill them he is impressed by the skill and bravery shown by the enemy crews.

Hibiki now closes in on Benham, pounding her with repeated hits. The range closes to 4000 meters and Kuwaki’s well-trained men are not missing their chance. The enemy destroyer is soon battling several fires and is obviously in serious trouble.

Not far off destroyer Dale, having just executed a torpedo attack against Suzuya, notices Benham’s plight. Dale moves in on Hibiki from astern and opens fire.

Hibiki, intent on her prey, does not recognize the danger until two 5” shells geyser into the water less than 100 meters to starboard. The ship thrums from the underwater concussion of the near-misses. A moment later geysers erupt to either side, sending water cascading over the ship.

“We’re straddled, sir,” notes Lieutenant Miharu, somewhat unnecessarily.

“Helm, change course ninety degree to port,” barks Ishii. “Kuwaki, your new target is that destroyer astern. Fire when ready.”

Hibiki comes about and opens a brisk duel with Dale. Hibiki scores first as the aft turret sends two shells ripping into Dale right at the water line.

“Torpedoes ready, sir!” announces Sugiyura. He is proud of his men – fourteen minutes and ten seconds, all while under fire.

“Good,” says Ishii. “There’s your target, Lieutenant.” He points to Dale, some 7000 meters distant.

“Yes sir!’ grins Sugiyura. He checks to make sure that no Japanese ships are in danger of moving behind Dale and then orders the attack. Dale tries to turn away from the Type 93s and her anti-aircraft guns fire into the sea in an attempt to detonate the torpedoes. To no avail, however; one of them catches her. The resulting blast lifts the stern free of the water for a moment, and then it settles back heavily.

“Well done,” says Captain Ishii. He orders his ship to cease fire; Dale has stopped shooting at them and is obviously doomed. With a few moments of breathing space he surveys the battle still raging around him.

Yamato and Suzuya have been torpedoed but do not seem badly hurt. Fujinami has been hit hard; the Japanese destroyer is burning and has a slight list. Five of the six enemy destroyers are out of the fight and sinking; one, Stack, took a full broadside from an annoyed Musashi’s main guns and is already gone. Not too far off the last enemy destroyer still fighing, Aylwin, is exchanging fire with Teruzuki. Both destroyers have already scored against one another and Teruzuki is trailing smoke.

Ishii orders Hibiki to open fire on Aylwin. Again Hibiki scores hits, as do several other ships. Aylwin is torn by a storm of shells and left sinking.

The bulk of the enemy fire has been directed against the larger Japanese ships; all have taken several 5” hits but none are seriously damaged. Now the pursuit of the scattering enemy freighters begins in earnest.

The rest of the action is less of a battle than it is a massacre. Ishii and many others aboard Hibiki are not blind to the plight of the merchant mariners caught under their guns. It is not pretty, and it is not bushido; but it is war and it must be done.

In the end ten of the eighteen freighters are sunk or left sinking; most of the remainder are damaged. The survivors are so widely scattered that it would take the rest of the day to hunt them down, and this is time the Japanese do not have, not if they are to have a chance to see home again.

Already they may have stayed too long. But as Admiral Tashiro orders his ships to regroup and head for Tokyo they believe they have done what they came here to do.

Nor are they wrong. Gone are most of the supplies for the men in the transports and for those already ashore. The American troops are too strong to be dislodged by the Japanese defenders but their offensive capacity has been crippled. It will take weeks to replace the destroyed supplies and in the meantime the battle for Iwo Jima will turn into a bloody stalemate.

Against all odds Yamamoto’s plan has succeeded. Now all that remains to be seen is whether the surviving Japanese ships can reach home once again.





Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 10:54:42 PM)

Action off Iwo Jima. Hibiki first engages DD Benham...



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Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 10:56:36 PM)

Next up is DD Dale...



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Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 10:58:23 PM)

And finally DD Aylwin.



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Dili -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 11:13:07 PM)

Is Kitakami still in its Super-Torpedo configuration?




tocaff -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 11:23:04 PM)

Three cheers for the snake!

CF you did really well and the telling was even better.




John 3rd -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 11:24:35 PM)

Hits on 3DDs as well as AKs!  VERY nice...

CF--When the msoke clears and results get tabulated in Tokyo, could you please provide the best Japanese 'intelligence' as to the losses suffered by the Allies in all phases of your attack?
 




Cuttlefish -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 11:39:58 PM)

Hibiki immediately following the battle. The destroyer left Tokyo with a crew day/night experience rating of 81/69. The attack on SS Cavalla raised day experience one point and the action at Iwo was good for three more.

Note that, in addtion to depth charges, torpedoes, and main gun ammo, AA ammunition is also low. I think that the 25mm guns were firing enthusiatically at the enemy during the battle, probably at Benham, though I did not note any hits.



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Menser -> RE: Small Ship, Big War (12/18/2008 11:41:10 PM)

A blow well struck CF ....congrats :)




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