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Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Ambush over Changsha (2/19/2008 3:53:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: treespider On the plus side the units in Kweilin and Hengchow are still receiving 1500 supply points per month. If you consider them lost anyway - why not launch a counterattack out of Kweilin to the hex SW adjacent to Wuchow and cut his supply line? With India lost and his ability to bring extra units into China ....China will be a foregone conclusion anyway... [ Because he has LOTS of troops there! At least 3500 AVs are placed in the south of the Pocket...will just be a useless slaughter... i'll try to save as much as i can anyway...and make his life as hard as possible towards Chungking...

Bogo Mil -> RE: Ambush over Changsha (2/19/2008 7:36:06 PM)
Isn't the Royal Navy more useful in India now? Ok, I understand that you are desperatly needing CVs in the Pacific. But you can not fight against the KB now anyway, these British CVs won't change that. But: If the RN leaves India, he can do what he wants in the Indic Ocean. This includes the option to withdraw all his ships, too. This would make him really dangerous everywhere. I would keep the RN where it is. I didn't count the hexes there, but shouldn't it be possible to use this navy offensively while the KB is gone? Detailed plans have to be made, my quick idea would be this: The CVs get a fighter heavy load. So they can fend of any unescorted Bettys. Then they can cover the battlewagons near the top edge of the map to a position near Karachi. From where the surface fleet can race at full speed to Karachi and do some good things there - deliver supplies as fast transport, kill his CAs in surface combat, bombard his siege force, ... In the morning they race back to the covering CVs. I think you can hurt him there and he might even send at least some of his carriers back to the Indic.

Gen.Hoepner -> 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 12:50:36 AM)
The problem with using the RN close to the coast is the STRONG air power he still has in India. 200 Betties and probably 200 zeros...i have to avoid the zeros if i want to have a chance with my RN CVs, so to say, stay at least 10 hexes far from his bases... Anyway the Babylon operation will go on, but i'll try to see, using only my CVs how do they react against unescorted betties.... Another very expensive day for the allies. During the night the usual raiding surface force came at Eniwetok...my DDs stood no chances against his long lance torpedo attacks...and i got also few more AK sunk... In the morning clouds cover Eniwetok, but the KB is spotted 3 hexes far away....so... In the afternoon we launched 2 small raids and one big raid against the KB...losses are TERRIBLE...300 planes lost...against only 70 of his...however we managed to place 3 1000lb bombs on 3 different KB ships...no serious damage, but fire aboard and so probabaly now the KB has to get back at Truk... Still we have 400 ready planes at Eniwetok...! The B-17s prooved to be very effective in creating a gap into his CAP...a narrow passage where the lighter bombers can get through...my fighters performed really bad anyway[:(] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/17/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 123 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (77,78) Japanese Ships DD Kazegumo, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage sinks[:D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 77,78 Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Yura CL Abukuma CL Kuma, Shell hits 1 CL Tama, Shell hits 1 CL Tatsuta CL Yubari DD Yugumo DD Kazegumo, on fire, heavy damage DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Nowaki DD Arashi DD Hagikaze DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Yayoi DD Mochizuki, Shell hits 1, on fire Allied Ships DD Sims, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD King, Shell hits 1 DD Peary, Shell hits 1 DD Brooks, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Sands, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Lawrence, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage DD Kane, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk My DDs got slaughtered by his long lance torpedo attacks...[:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 77,78 Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Yura, Shell hits 1 CL Abukuma CL Kuma CL Tama CL Tatsuta CL Yubari DD Yugumo DD Kazegumo, on fire, heavy damage DD Hayashio, on fire DD Hamakaze, on fire DD Nowaki DD Arashi DD Hagikaze DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Yayoi DD Mochizuki, on fire Allied Ships MSW Finch, Shell hits 17, and is sunk MSW Whippoorwill MSW Launceston, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 77,78 Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Yura CL Abukuma CL Kuma CL Tama CL Tatsuta CL Yubari DD Yugumo DD Kazegumo, on fire, heavy damage DD Hayashio, on fire DD Hamakaze, on fire DD Nowaki DD Arashi DD Hagikaze DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Yayoi DD Mochizuki, on fire Allied Ships AK Kentuckian, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AK Knoxville City, Shell hits 84, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 77,78 Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Yura CL Abukuma CL Kuma CL Tama CL Tatsuta CL Yubari DD Yugumo DD Kazegumo, on fire, heavy damage DD Hayashio, on fire DD Hamakaze, on fire DD Nowaki DD Arashi DD Hagikaze DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Yayoi DD Mochizuki, on fire Allied Ships AK Mokihana, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AK Mormacsul AK San Angelo AK San Rafael, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AK San Simeon AK San Vincente, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage AK Silverado, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AK Minjak AK Tomohon AK Toradja, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Van Hentz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 77,78 Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Yura CL Abukuma CL Kuma CL Tama CL Tatsuta CL Yubari DD Yugumo, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Kazegumo, on fire, heavy damage DD Hayashio, on fire DD Hamakaze, on fire DD Nowaki DD Arashi DD Hagikaze DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Yayoi DD Mochizuki, on fire Allied Ships AK Asphalion, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AK Alchiba, Shell hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allmy AKs were empty...[:)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 77,78 Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Yura CL Abukuma CL Kuma CL Tama CL Tatsuta CL Yubari DD Yugumo, on fire DD Kazegumo, and is sunk DD Hayashio, on fire DD Hamakaze, on fire DD Nowaki DD Arashi DD Hagikaze DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Yayoi DD Mochizuki, on fire Allied Ships PT PT-45 PT PT-59 PT PT-60 PT PT-61, Shell hits 7, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 77,78 Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Yura CL Abukuma CL Kuma CL Tama CL Tatsuta CL Yubari DD Yugumo, on fire DD Hayashio, on fire DD Hamakaze, on fire DD Nowaki DD Arashi DD Hagikaze DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Yayoi DD Mochizuki, on fire Allied Ships DMS Southard DMS Hovey DMS Long DMS Perry, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DMS Chandler DMS Wasmuth, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 39 encounters mine field at Karachi (21,3) Japanese Ships MSW W.18 MSW W.15 MSW W.12 MSW W.9 MSW W.8 MSW W.7 MSW W.6 MSW W.4 MSW W.3 MSW W.2 AP Jinsai Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 27 casualties reported Another supply-burning attack[:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,77 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft PBY Catalina x 3 Beaufighter VIF x 3 B-17E Fortress x 24 LB-30 Liberator x 9 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 71 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 11 mmmm...he based a Kate Chutai at Lautem...what can that mean?[&:] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 See the betties numbers.....[X(] Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 G3M Nell x 46 G4M1 Betty x 112 Japanese aircraft losses G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged G4M1 Betty: 20 damaged Allied ground losses: 249 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 18 Airbase supply hits 11 Runway hits 97 And here's the attack on the KB!!![X(] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 75,78 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 14 A6M2 Zero x 234 A6M3 Zero x 32 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 TBD Devastator x 22 Beaufort I x 3 P-39D Airacobra x 5 P-40B Tomahawk x 4 A-24 Dauntless x 3 B-26B Marauder x 6 B-17E Fortress x 4 P-38F Lightning x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 1 damaged A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed TBD Devastator: 22 destroyed Beaufort I: 3 destroyed P-39D Airacobra: 5 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed A-24 Dauntless: 3 destroyed B-26B Marauder: 3 destroyed B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed P-38F Lightning: 3 destroyed OUCH!!!![:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 75,78 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 7 A6M2 Zero x 210 A6M3 Zero x 32 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 24 SBD-3 Dauntless x 37 TBD Devastator x 23 Beaufort I x 3 P-36A Mohawk x 10 P-400 Airacobra x 12 P-39D Airacobra x 50 P-40B Tomahawk x 26 P-40E Warhawk x 3 A-24 Dauntless x 9 A-20B Boston x 9 B-25C Mitchell x 36 B-26B Marauder x 31 B-17E Fortress x 63 P-43A Lancer x 3 P-38F Lightning x 4 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged A6M2 Zero: 42 destroyed, 80 damaged A6M3 Zero: 22 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 23 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 25 destroyed TBD Devastator: 17 destroyed Beaufort I: 2 damaged P-36A Mohawk: 10 destroyed P-400 Airacobra: 12 destroyed P-39D Airacobra: 49 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 26 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed A-24 Dauntless: 9 destroyed A-20B Boston: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 13 damaged B-26B Marauder: 4 destroyed, 20 damaged B-17E Fortress: 12 destroyed, 39 damaged P-43A Lancer: 3 destroyed P-38F Lightning: 4 destroyed F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CV Akagi CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 1, on fire belt penetration.1000lb from a SDB CV Shokaku CVL Zuiho CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1 Belt hit CV Hiyo CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 1, on fire flight deck penetration, 1000lb from a SDB, severe fire CVE Unyo CV Soryu CV Junyo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 75,78 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 12 A6M2 Zero x 191 A6M3 Zero x 32 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 6 TBD Devastator x 10 P-36A Mohawk x 5 P-39D Airacobra x 8 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 A-24 Dauntless x 3 B-26B Marauder x 3 B-17E Fortress x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 2 damaged A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 15 damaged A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 destroyed TBD Devastator: 9 destroyed P-36A Mohawk: 5 destroyed P-39D Airacobra: 7 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed A-24 Dauntless: 2 destroyed B-17E Fortress: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged Japanese Ships DD Hayate PG Takunan Maru #8 DD Shiokaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire AO Nippon Maru DD Asanagi 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Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 12:52:22 AM)
...losses are HORRIBLE...however i couldn't see why he risked so much....for not a real target...i didn't have any important ship anchored at Eniwetok...[&:] [image]local://upfiles/4162/BEB833707B524704A1D69198B64FDB52.jpg[/image]

Andy Mac -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 1:04:12 AM)
Hmmmmm how strong is the RN Fleet at Aden now ? Is it time to send another couple of solo AK's in to annoy him.....

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 1:05:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac Hmmmmm how strong is the RN Fleet at Aden now ? Is it time to send another couple of solo AK's in to annoy him..... 3 CVs, 1 CVL, 4 BBs, 1 BC and many CA,CLs. Some more 20 DDs My AKs are already on the way towards Karachi. Every 5/6 days i send one AK towards Karachi...

Jim D Burns -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 1:22:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner however i couldn't see why he risked so much....for not a real target...i didn't have any important ship anchored at Eniwetok...[&:] Very possible he had a misleading recon report of CV's at Eniwetok. My opponent told me he had reports of CV's at Sydney, but I hadn't had any near there for over a month. Not sure I'd say losing 280+ planes was not an important target though. He's decimated your air power. I wouldn't be surprised if an invasion wasn't soon to follow. Jim

Feinder -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 4:04:51 AM)
Frankly, you took a BOHICA vs. KB. I'd say he was deliberately trying to attrit your air force (one of WitP's amusiing opposites of history). And 300 planes for damage to Hiryu and slight damgae to Ryujo, that's not a bad trade. While it's possible that the Hiryu is in more trouble, the likelihood of her going down from one bomb is unlikely. I'd trade a two sky-lights for 300 enemy aircraft. -F-

ctangus -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 5:15:51 AM)
I don't know if I'd be that pessimistic myself. The allied losses certainly hurt, but many of the plane losses are easily replacable airframes (P-39s, B-25s, B-26s, F4F-4s, SBDs, etc.) Even the TBDs - their replacement rate sucks, but TBFs start coming on line in the next month IIRC. The IJN lost 53 Zeros, over the KB. So maybe they lost 20-30 crack pilots. Not a lot compared to the 300+ on CAP, but still significant. And with a little luck maybe one small enemy flight deck out of operation. I'd count on Zui (certainly) and Hiryu (probably) still being operational. I'd still rate it a tactical IJN victory. But if the General can stage 2-3 more raids like that, weakening the IJN each time, the KB will sooner or later have to be afraid of allied LBA. So, IMO, a tactical IJ victory, but I also see reason for mild optimism by the allies.

Jim D Burns -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 5:29:50 AM)
I agree, the loss of Japanese pilots is always a good thing, but they were most likely the carrier capable units that lost most of the pilots. The other problem is that with almost 300 air to air victories, Japan�s remaining pilots just got a LOT better. I�d guess each pilot probably went up an average of 2-5 experience points. The real danger is in the short term. The allied air squadrons involved in the battle will have their morale in the tank for at least a week or two after such a devastating hit. Now is a critical time as he�s exposed to a naval invasion. Even if he gets to attack the incoming fleets without KB�s LRCAP, his pilots won�t hit a thing due to low morale, if they even fly at all. Hopefully this was just a raid in reaction to a bogus CV report or just a raid to kill his air power. If it�s an invasion, he�s very exposed due to no other supporting airfields nearby. Jim

ctangus -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 5:57:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns I agree, the loss of Japanese pilots is always a good thing, but they were most likely the carrier capable units that lost most of the pilots. Oh - yep - that's certainly true. Hopefully a few of the carrier trained went down, too. quote: The other problem is that with almost 300 air to air victories, Japan�s remaining pilots just got a LOT better. I�d guess each pilot probably went up an average of 2-5 experience points. I'm sure a few IJN pilots gained experience, but from what I've seen it's extremely hard to gain experience once a pilot's already in the 70's or 80's. I doubt 2-5 points. I'd guess at most an average of 1 point, if that. We're talking roughly 1 kill/pilot. In the 50's that would boost them a lot, but in the 70's/80's/90's a single kill will boost a pilot only once in a while. I'd still wager, with some confidence, the overall KB pilot experience went down with that battle. quote: The real danger is in the short term. The allied air squadrons involved in the battle will have their morale in the tank for at least a week or two after such a devastating hit. Now is a critical time as he�s exposed to a naval invasion. Even if he gets to attack the incoming fleets without KB�s LRCAP, his pilots won�t hit a thing due to low morale, if they even fly at all. I agree with you there. Did you notice the TFs west of KB in the General's last screen shot?!? I guess I wanted to point out that his recent losses might not have been completely in vain - kind of like Torpedo 8 at Midway. [:)]

jumper -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 9:22:57 AM)
I would be afraid of a bombardment run now.. BTW if you check the operational report, you should be able to recognize how many carrier capable units he is using on his CV.

Bogo Mil -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 9:35:38 AM)
Ok, I did count hexes in the Indic now: Since fighters don't fly escort missions outside normal rage (afaik), the interesting number is 7 - the normal range of the Zero. Thus up to 16/1 you are save from escorted strikes. That's 6 hexes from Karachi, only the fastest ships can make a night run from there. At 16/1 you could face unescorted Bettys from 5 bases (if they are big enough): Pangim, Bombay, Poona, Ahmadabad and Malir. If you go closer to the coast, Zeros from Malir can reach you. Only from Malir, no other base. Up to 18/1 (4 hexes out) it's only the Zeros, no Oscars. Bettys from 2 additional bases (Bhopal and Jaipur) could join. Sally+Helen can attack only from Malir, and only up to 18/1, so you are save from them up to 5 hexes out of Karachi. That's the numbers. I don't know if unescorted Bettys are a too big threat. And I don't know what exactly he has at Malir - all other bases aren't very interesting as you see. Another risk would be a carrier (Mini-KB or Kaga) in the area, which might provide some extra escorts.

witpqs -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 9:49:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bogo Mil Since fighters don't fly escort missions outside normal rage (afaik), I always thought they did?

Bogo Mil -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 10:02:48 AM)
If you set an enemy base as target hex, fighters fly escort to that base. But against task forces somewhere on the ocean? I'm not sure... I thought you have to set a target hex for escort sorties at extended range. If they fly extended range, you are nowhere save from Malir. Zeros from Ahmadabad and Bombay might join (but that's really at the edge of their capabilities, then).

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 1:55:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bogo Mil If you set an enemy base as target hex, fighters fly escort to that base. But against task forces somewhere on the ocean? I'm not sure... I thought you have to set a target hex for escort sorties at extended range. If they fly extended range, you are nowhere save from Malir. Zeros from Ahmadabad and Bombay might join (but that's really at the edge of their capabilities, then). I don't think so Bogo. As far as i know zeros can easily escort till 10 hexes! So an operation like the one you described above would be damned high risky! Cannot efford to lose my RN right now. However, as i said, i'll taste his strenght in India with my RN CVs in the nearby future... AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/18/42 Today Japan closes again the pocket in China...hopefully tomorrow we'll be able to push those tanks back again and re-open for few more days the pocket, gaining some more time... At Karachi another suicide landing...we burnt 5,000 supplies today with this manouver...[:o] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 39 encounters mine field at Karachi (21,3) TF 39 troops unloading over beach at Karachi, 21,3 Japanese Ships MSW W.15 MSW W.12 MSW W.9 MSW W.8 MSW W.7 MSW W.6 MSW W.4 MSW W.3 MSW W.2 AP Fukusei Maru, Mine hits 9, on fire, heavy damage PG Iwate PG Idzumo Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Coastal Guns at Karachi, 21,3, firing at TF 39 94 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 22 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Karachi, at 21,3 Japanese Ships CA Furutaka CA Nachi CA Haguro CA Myoko CA Tone Allied ground losses: 2673 casualties reported Guns lost 59 Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 17 Port hits 8 Port fuel hits 2 Port supply hits 3 At Timor he moved back his Kates....mmmmm[8\|] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,77 Allied aircraft PBY Catalina x 3 Beaufighter VIF x 3 B-17E Fortress x 21 LB-30 Liberator x 10 Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 59 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 21 Manila is down to 5,000 supplies....will fall easily as soon as he comes in force[:(] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft Ki-21-II Sally x 108 Ki-49 Helen x 130 Ki-46-II Dinah x 1 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-II Sally: 7 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged Allied ground losses: 207 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 16 Airbase supply hits 9 Runway hits 123 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 42,35 Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 6016 troops, 10 guns, 158 vehicles, Assault Value = 160 Defending force 5275 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 174 Japanese max assault: 302 - adjusted assault: 143 Allied max defense: 133 - adjusted defense: 31 [:(][>:][:o] Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 86 casualties reported Vehicles lost 7 Allied ground losses: 76 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! His tanks advancing in china...closing the pocket again...[:(] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Karachi Allied Bombardment attack[:@][:@][:@][:@] Attacking force 101015 troops, 1039 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2835 Defending force 137137 troops, 804 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2739 Japanese ground losses: 66 casualties reported Th KB is moving back to Truk...this will give me some time to re-order my air force at Eniwetok. Trollelite isn't going to invade here...he doesn't have any troops at the moment...and Eniwetok is a fortress! 2 CD guns units, 2 AA units, 6 forts, 1200 AVs, 2 Arty regiments (with 155mm)...500 mines...too much for him at the moment! The bombardment run is a possibilty...however he doesn't seem to have any BB at Truk....but i'll keep an aye wide open on this threat!

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 1:57:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns I agree, the loss of Japanese pilots is always a good thing, but they were most likely the carrier capable units that lost most of the pilots. The other problem is that with almost 300 air to air victories, Japan�s remaining pilots just got a LOT better. I�d guess each pilot probably went up an average of 2-5 experience points. The real danger is in the short term. The allied air squadrons involved in the battle will have their morale in the tank for at least a week or two after such a devastating hit. Now is a critical time as he�s exposed to a naval invasion. Even if he gets to attack the incoming fleets without KB�s LRCAP, his pilots won�t hit a thing due to low morale, if they even fly at all. Hopefully this was just a raid in reaction to a bogus CV report or just a raid to kill his air power. If it�s an invasion, he�s very exposed due to no other supporting airfields nearby. Jim Hi JIm, Morale of my air units ins't that bad luckly. My fighter groups still are above 80s!!! The bombers morale is different...from 99 to 20...but the overall situation isn't that bad! As i said above, an invasion isn't possible at the moment. He would be slaughtered by my CD guns...

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 2:00:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ctangus I don't know if I'd be that pessimistic myself. The allied losses certainly hurt, but many of the plane losses are easily replacable airframes (P-39s, B-25s, B-26s, F4F-4s, SBDs, etc.) Even the TBDs - their replacement rate sucks, but TBFs start coming on line in the next month IIRC. The IJN lost 53 Zeros, over the KB. So maybe they lost 20-30 crack pilots. Not a lot compared to the 300+ on CAP, but still significant. And with a little luck maybe one small enemy flight deck out of operation. I'd count on Zui (certainly) and Hiryu (probably) still being operational. I'd still rate it a tactical IJN victory. But if the General can stage 2-3 more raids like that, weakening the IJN each time, the KB will sooner or later have to be afraid of allied LBA. So, IMO, a tactical IJ victory, but I also see reason for mild optimism by the allies. Probably i'm too optimistic, but the KB should be hurt a little by now. 2 of his CVEs and the Kaga (or was the Akagi?) should still be out of order due to the damages suffered at Karachi...now a CVL and a CV are on fire...i wouldn't risk them right now. His Air units should be a bit stressed for some more days...and i still can count of a grand total of 800 planes at Eniwetok...enough to substain few more raids like that.

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 2:02:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Feinder � I'd trade a two sky-lights for 300 enemy aircraft.� -F- I wouldn't personally. I doesn't really matter is the CVs are down to the bottom or just damaged...what counts is that a CV out of order is a CV that won't seek my ships in the nearby future!

fcam1387 -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 2:06:54 PM)
The war has been raging for around 6 months and I see Japan is down nearly 3000 planes. Isn't that quite massive for the middle of 1942? Even if his economy is powering along and he's producing many planes, Japan's pilot training program would not be able to produce adequate pilots to keep up with losses. He must be attriting himself... Are you noticing any qualitative decline in his air combat capabillty?

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 3:49:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fcam1387 The war has been raging for around 6 months and I see Japan is down nearly 3000 planes. Isn't that quite massive for the middle of 1942? Even if his economy is powering along and he's producing many planes, Japan's pilot training program would not be able to produce adequate pilots to keep up with losses. He must be attriting himself... Are you noticing any qualitative decline in his air combat capabillty? I'm no noticing anything of that...also because the only place where our air forces are facing each other is Eniwetok...and there he has the KB!... AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/19/42 A quiet day. KB left Truk...lost any contact with it. At Karachi he intercepted my barges with a DD TF... A ducth sub missed near Karachi an easy target...[:@] In China his bombers made some huge raids against the poor pocket... [:o] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 20,3 Japanese Ships DD Hasu DD Kuri DD Asagao Allied Ships SS KIX torpedo missed....[:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat at 20,3[:D] Japanese Ships DD Kuri DD Tsuga DD Hasu DD Asagao Allied Ships LCM LCM No. 46, Shell hits 1, and is sunk LCM LCM No. 91, Shell hits 1, and is sunk LCM LCM No. 131, Shell hits 2, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Manila Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 1231 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1106 Defending force 138908 troops, 1322 guns, 425 vehicles, Assault Value = 2699 Japanese max assault: 45 - adjusted assault: 0 Allied max defense: 2926 - adjusted defense: 27009 [:o] Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9) Japanese ground losses: 487 casualties reported mmmm...he's tasting my defences.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 42,34 His tanks are pushed back again...the pocket is open for some more days... Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 29053 troops, 153 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1659 Defending force 2972 troops, 6 guns, 76 vehicles, Assault Value = 77 Allied max assault: 790 - adjusted assault: 560 Japanese max defense: 76 - adjusted defense: 143 Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 218 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Gen.Hoepner -> The Pocket (2/20/2008 9:13:22 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/20/42 The pocket gets closed again...the jap tanks are really fast!! They marched all over the fields and closed the door just South of Chungking...i really doubt at this stage we will be able to save anything south of Chungking... The KB should still be at Truk..., while the jap subs today were on the run again...2 ships torpedoed at sunk...[:@] Nothing much happened, a part from the usual Karachi bombings and a great raid over Chungking... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Jaluit at 82,88 Japanese Ships SS I-123 Allied Ships AK Balus, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage sinks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tuyun , at 41,35 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val x 151 Ki-30 Ann x 47 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 25 casualties reported Airbase hits 13 Airbase supply hits 21 Runway hits 134 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kweilin , at 42,37 Japanese aircraft Ki-48-I Lily x 79 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 48 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 46 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 55 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 51 Ki-49 Helen x 179 Allied aircraft P-40B Tomahawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed Ki-49 Helen: 3 destroyed, 32 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 104 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 32 Airbase supply hits 20 Runway hits 107 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft Ki-21-II Sally x 65 Ki-46-II Dinah x 1 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-II Sally: 15 damaged Allied ground losses: 52 casualties reported Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 40 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Wotje at 84,85 Japanese Ships SS I-122 Allied Ships TK Paua, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage sinks [image]local://upfiles/4162/9304877DD33B452C89F5DB592C9B3C71.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 9:41:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jumper I would be afraid of a bombardment run now.. BTW if you check the operational report, you should be able to recognize how many carrier capable units he is using on his CV. F2/Genzan Daitai F2/1st Daitai F4/Chitose Chutai F1/3rd Daitai F1/Tainan Daitai F2/Yamada Daitai FF6/Yokohama Chutai F3/Yokosuka Daitai F2/Ominato Daitai F1/Sasebo Daitai F1/Omura Daitai These for sure...then i couldn't count anymore...my ayes went crazy!!![;)]

jumper -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 10:03:51 PM)
Yeah, I can imagine that.. [;)]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/20/2008 11:52:23 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/21/42 He deployed something like 15 subs (at least those i spotted) around the Marshalls...laying mines and hunting for my ships...I'm now starting to organize a massive ASW campaign to counterattack this move...let's see if i can hurt him a bit at least in the ASWarfare... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1096 encounters mine field at Wotje (84,85) Allied Ships MSW Aroe MSW Colac -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1096 encounters mine field at Wotje (84,85) Allied Ships MSW Aroe MSW Colac Sub-Laid mines.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 43,35 Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 319745 troops, 1568 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 7005 Defending force 64773 troops, 253 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1812 Japanese max assault: 6606 - adjusted assault: 2126 Allied max defense: 1646 - adjusted defense: 177 Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 4268 casualties reported Guns lost 103 Vehicles lost 13 Allied ground losses: 4770 casualties reported Guns lost 65 Vehicles lost 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! These were my poor chinese guys trying to exit from the Pocket...no way! the circle of fire around them is too strong!! In 13 days the Wasp is arriving...so to say within a month i'll be able to operate 3 carriers in the pacific...

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/21/2008 12:50:22 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/22/42 His sub campaign goes on. Another AK sunk...it was heading towards Eniwetok, bringing in a Tank Destroyer Bn... We Hit near Wotje the I-30 with a A-29 flying at 3000 fts.....hope the damage is high In China...Tsuyung fell...and he pushed us back from Liuchow towards Kwellin....[:(] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 93,78 Japanese Ships SS I-25 Allied Ships AK Koolinda, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Patras PC Eridanus PC Canopus MSW Ipswitch MSW Deloraine MSW Cairns MSW Ballarat Allied ground losses: 22 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tuyun Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 55459 troops, 156 guns, 794 vehicles, Assault Value = 2453 Defending force 540 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 1943 - adjusted assault: 1673 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 1673 to 1 (fort level 5) Japanese forces CAPTURE Tuyun base !!! Allied ground losses: 892 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Liuchow Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 97360 troops, 483 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2045 Defending force 31869 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1017 Japanese max assault: 3485 - adjusted assault: 960 Allied max defense: 952 - adjusted defense: 146 Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 6261 casualties reported Guns lost 121 Allied ground losses: 1286 casualties reported Guns lost 17 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 45,36 North of Changsha... Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 101307 troops, 542 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2136 Defending force 9368 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 269 Japanese max assault: 2073 - adjusted assault: 1747 Allied max defense: 237 - adjusted defense: 6 Japanese assault odds: 291 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 548 casualties reported Guns lost 9 Allied ground losses: 1834 casualties reported Guns lost 23 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 44,36 between Changhs and Tsuyun Allied Shock attack Attacking force 33359 troops, 97 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1518 Defending force 1820 troops, 0 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 42 Allied max assault: 1280 - adjusted assault: 111 Japanese max defense: 36 - adjusted defense: 6 Allied assault odds: 18 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 158 casualties reported Vehicles lost 4 Allied ground losses: 130 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Bogo Mil -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/21/2008 9:35:16 AM)
An ASW-campaign is a good idea. And until the threat is gone you should use at least one destroyer in every TF with troops or other valuable assets. These Australian MSWs are nice, but a destroyer crew is usually twice as experienced and a DD captain is a better TF leader. Do you have a corps or two in Chungking now? If yes, then I would cross the river and assault that tank unit with them. That's the fastest way to open that road.

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/21/2008 11:13:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bogo Mil An ASW-campaign is a good idea. And until the threat is gone you should use at least one destroyer in every TF with troops or other valuable assets. These Australian MSWs are nice, but a destroyer crew is usually twice as experienced and a DD captain is a better TF leader. Do you have a corps or two in Chungking now? If yes, then I would cross the river and assault that tank unit with them. That's the fastest way to open that road. I'm trying to defend my TFs Bogo...but i really have a LOT of them moving around and cannot defend properly them all! My DDs must first defend my main warships (i still remember that the Saratoga is docked at SF with 33 sys because of a damned lonely sub!!!) At Chungking i only have the 2 static corps...[:(]...i'm dumb, i know[:o] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/23/42 Bad weather in the Marshalls prevent any serious air ASW...Lots of mines at Wotje! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1096 encounters mine field at Wotje (84,85) Allied Ships MSW Aroe MSW Colac -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1168 encounters mine field at Wotje (84,85) Allied Ships APD McKean APD Manley APD Little APD Colhoun -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 30th Group Army, at 47,37 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 32 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-27 Nate: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 10 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kweilin , at 42,37 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val x 28 C5M Babs x 3 Ki-30 Ann x 36 Ki-32 Mary x 27 Ki-15 Babs x 9 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 93 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 15 Runway hits 89 Aircraft Attacking: 24 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet 18 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet 21 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet 9 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet 4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kweilin , at 42,37 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val x 151 Ki-30 Ann x 12 Ki-48-I Lily x 79 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 195 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 20 Airbase supply hits 15 Runway hits 251 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet 20 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 21 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 17 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 21 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 21 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 12 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet 10 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 5 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 5 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 8 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 8 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 2 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 2 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 2 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 37th Chinese Corps, at 42,37 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 9 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 8 Ki-30 Ann x 27 Ki-32 Mary x 38 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 126 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Aircraft Attacking: 20 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet 27 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet 18 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 1st Chinese Cavalry Corps, at 44,36 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3 Ki-49 Helen x 62 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 113 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 7 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 84th Chinese Corps, at 51,29 Japanese aircraft Ki-30 Ann x 24 Ki-51 Sonia x 10 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 65 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Aircraft Attacking: 24 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet 10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 78th Chinese Corps, at 42,37 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 3 Ki-49 Helen x 3 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 54th Chinese Corps, at 42,37 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 12 Ki-49 Helen x 6 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 4 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 20th Art Regt Field Artillery Regiment, at 44,36 Japanese aircraft Ki-49 Helen x 59 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 61 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Aircraft Attacking: 15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 12 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 60th Chinese/C Corps, at 44,39 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 12 B5N2 Kate x 15 Ki-27 Nate x 9 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 25 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 12 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 15 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 44,35 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 93500 troops, 526 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1976 Defending force 3544 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 145 Japanese max assault: 1846 - adjusted assault: 1606 Allied max defense: 141 - adjusted defense: 3 Japanese assault odds: 535 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 196 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 866 casualties reported Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Bogo Mil -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/21/2008 12:35:44 PM)
I think one DD for every troop carrying TF west of Hawaii should be possible. You don't have dozens of such TFs, do you? Your ASW-campaign needs one DD in each TF, too. The quality of the DD is not that important - you can use those obsolete Dutch DDs and others which are not so useful to protect the warships. (Rule of thumb: Look at the endurance of the ship. Good destroyers usually have high endurance et vice versa. Everything lower than 4000 should be prefered for merchant escort and ASW duties.)

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: 3 bombs on the KB! (2/21/2008 1:57:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bogo Mil I think one DD for every troop carrying TF west of Hawaii should be possible. You don't have dozens of such TFs, do you? Your ASW-campaign needs one DD in each TF, too. The quality of the DD is not that important - you can use those obsolete Dutch DDs and others which are not so useful to protect the warships. (Rule of thumb: Look at the endurance of the ship. Good destroyers usually have high endurance et vice versa. Everything lower than 4000 should be prefered for merchant escort and ASW duties.) Yes, i'm trying to protect most of my important TFs, but till now i'm using MSW,PGs and PCs...i'll try to use more DDs in it. However guys. The KB is still at Truk (i've spotted the replenishment TF so i assume the KB should be nearby). Tomorrow we'll start bombing back Ponape with my bombers at Eniwetok. 1 division, 1 RCT, 3 Eng units and some base forces are moving towards Noumea, then to PM. In India, my CVs are out of the Aden Channell...he spotted me...now let's see how he will react! My Pacific fleet is re-grouping at PH, waiting for the Wasp to come in. June is close. In June finally we'll start producing the B-24s...75 per month!! With these beauties my strenght in terms of long range bombing will be higher...And we''ll keep on keeping the pressure on Truk!

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