RE: Do you play against the AI?

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[Poll]

Do you play against the AI?

I play only against the AI

44% (135)

I play primarily against the AI

15% (46)

I play occasionally against the AI

14% (45)

I only played the AI when learning, wouldn't touch it now

23% (73)

Never played the AI

2% (7)

Total Votes : 306

(last vote on : 3/24/2008 2:19:07 PM)
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Grotius -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/9/2007 5:01:16 PM)
Also, if you play "historically" against the AI, sometimes the game plays out in a more historically plausible way than in PBEM -- at least for a while. Don't get me wrong, I love the nail-biting challenge of a human opponent; there's nothing like PBEM. But PBEMers are sometimes far more aggressive than the historical commanders were, and the pace of PBEM play can be much faster than the historical pace.

AW1Steve -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/9/2007 5:52:28 PM)
[:D] OK , I admit it. Some of us play the AI cause no one else will play with us![8\|] Except Marky. [8\|] [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

Splinterhead -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/9/2007 6:14:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Grotius Also, if you play "historically" against the AI, sometimes the game plays out in a more historically plausible way than in PBEM -- at least for a while. Don't get me wrong, I love the nail-biting challenge of a human opponent; there's nothing like PBEM. But PBEMers are sometimes far more aggressive than the historical commanders were, and the pace of PBEM play can be much faster than the historical pace. That pretty much sums up my opinion. Too often in PBEM, my opponents have done things not because they are historically plausible but because the game allows it.

ny59giants -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/9/2007 6:32:26 PM)
I pretty much play PBEM now (3 games going), but played war games for almost 40 years. A question for the primary AI players, what scenario do you play and are there any more challenging than others?? I might guess that PBEM players start on 12/7/41, but I think the AI would do better with a later scenario.

Mike Scholl -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/9/2007 6:41:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Splinterhead That pretty much sums up my opinion. Too often in PBEM, my opponents have done things not because they are historically plausible but because the game allows it. Definately a problem..., and if truth be known, probably the primary motivation for all the "house rules" discussions that usually preceed the start of such an endevour. Both sides are "feeling out" a stranger to see if he's someone they want to spend a lot of time with. My personal preference would be more for a "description" in the original posting. Something like "Historically minded gamer seeking like minded opponant". Or "I like to play fast and loose, anything goes---need another wild and wooly fellow for a slug-fest".

bradfordkay -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/9/2007 9:09:28 PM)
Mike, I started my first (and only) PBEM last February after having played against the AI since WITP's initial release. Having a preference for a historically viable game, I had my reservations about PBEM for years. However, I did exactly what you suggest here by posting an ad stating my preferences and found a like minded opponent. I had even posted that it would be a slow paced game and found an opponent within a day, IIRC. I still play around against the AI, but it always seems to bog down. That's one of the parts of the AE that I'm looking forward to. I'll have something new to play agaisnt the AI while Chez and I finish our CHS game.

Bahnsteig -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/9/2007 10:40:30 PM)
AI is good to learn some things, but I have a great Pbem-Buddy and won't try it against the AI anymore. Everybody should try it against a human oppenent.

Rainer -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/9/2007 11:38:49 PM)
quote: Everybody should try it against a human oppenent. Everybody who can. The advocates for PBEM often forget that not everybody has a chance to play PBEM. For a variety of reasons. One being technical limitiations. And there are others ...

Caltone -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/10/2007 7:08:31 AM)
While I'm a PBEM'er now, I still have a grand campaign running against the AI that I fire up occasionally, especially when I am travelling. I believe that the largest block of players in all games (except MMO's obviously) play only against the AI. The poll results do not surprise me at all.

Joe D. -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/10/2007 5:39:59 PM)
Well, it sure surprised me; the way some WitP players talk about its AI, I thought only newbie's played against it.

Omat -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/10/2007 7:45:47 PM)
I only play against the ai with CHS mod. I also like the idea to play against human player it would be quite interessting and "a little bit" more challenging.;) But a game would persistent for long time...months or maybe longer (gand campange). I`m not sure e.g. if i can play maybe in 4 months.So there is a uncertainty and I don`t like to be the one which abandon the game. I think that I have a certain responsibility for my counterpart after starting a game. That`s the reason why i play only against the ai. Omat

Knavey -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/10/2007 8:11:33 PM)
I only play the AI if I get really, really, really bored wating on a turn, and then it only lasts until I get a turn in my email box.

Fallschirmjager -> RE: Do you play against the AI? (12/10/2007 11:17:35 PM)
Only way I will spend more money on the Admirals edition is with the promise of a vastly improved AI At the tactical level the AI is not horrible, but at the stratigic level it completly falls apart. A few examples are that the Japanese AI will fail to take Wake Island and never try again They will take a few bases in the DEI and then stop They will sometimes never take Singapore They will skirmish in Burma but never push hard They will never perform carrier raids on India, or Aus or Midway etc The Allied AI is even worse since it spends so much of the game on the offensive Another problem just as bad is the AI does not understand the concept of repairing its ships When one gets damaged it will constantly re-send them back on to fight and never keep them in port It also fails to recognize air superiority and will constantly run cargo TFs into areas where the bottom of the sea is lined with sunken ships It never forms dedicated Sub hunter/killer groups It really just needs alot of tweaking and re-working WitP is a fantastic game and one of Matrix best efforts But with my work life I just do not have the time or patience for PBEM Not having to work with a partner suits my life alot better I can play 30 turns over 4 hours and then not play for 10 days Cant do that with PBEM So for me it is 90% of the time playing against the AI The new game interests me alot but only if the AI gets a significant re-working

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