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treespider -> RE: The real victory level of this game (12/31/2007 4:33:48 PM)
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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005
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ORIGINAL: trollelite
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Japanese Victory: While allies get beated, get kicked out of the war, get a draw, get a moderate victor, or get anything if Japanese side remained alive after August, 1945
Draw: An allies decisive victory after June, 1944, before August, 1945
Allies Victory: An allies decisive victory before June,1944
This should reflects the true skill level of two sides. And this is only after applying strict HR restriction to allies side.
Allies so-called victory, except for a quick and decisive one, is meaningless, considering those vast resource they have.
If in those RTS games one's farmer could collect resource in a speed 4 or 5 times faster than others, he could always hope to win some sets, even others are with vastly superior skill, but such "victory" is of course hollowed, could prove nothing.
With the exception that VC are dependent on points, which I'm never a huge fan of in games, I think they are very well thought out.
This is a grognards game which means it isn't supposed to be complete fantasy. In real life a favorably negotiated peace was a reasonable VC for Japan. There is no way that would have ever been acceptable to the US...never. Why? They were pissed off and they knew they had the resources to crush Japan. Those resources in the game aren't made up. They actually existed. Japan was doomed the minute they attacked PH. The game accurately reflects this. However, how could being crushed a few months later than was historical be considered "a victory". IMO the only real victory for Japan in the game should be making the allied player want to give up, i.e. surrender.
This all presupposes a game in which the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor. The sneak attack generated a clear and definable cassus belli for the American Public. What happens if the Japanese don't attack Pearl Harbor? Or declare war then a week later attack Pearl Harbor? Do the Americans still enter the war with the zeal and fervor that Pearl Harbor caused? Would a negotiated peace have been plausible in that scenario?
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