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Bucks -> RE: Harpoon 3ANW Beta Patch v3.9.0 RC5 Uploaded to Members Only (2/6/2008 2:22:56 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Taitennek
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Of course it's easy to criticise when you are nothing more than an observer and not particiapting in the efforts of people who wish to move the game forward.
The game? you mean the commercial product. When you buy a car, you expect that it works for the amount of you pay for it, big investments, but also small investments, such as buying a game....
If Don Gilman wants my help for testing his commercial product and report errors, he can pay for it.
No Don Gilman doesn't want your help, the opinions expressed by me are my own. I along with a lot of people are sick of the off-handed critcism expressed by various "factions" within the community. Anybody would think the "few" (I use this term in its Battle of Britain sense) Beta testers were on really good dollars to spend their time testing the game... Nuh, I do it for the love of the game and the attitude that, my knowledge of the system and how it works will improve it for the better.
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ORIGINAL: Taitennek
DG dropped Harpoon3 like a brick. Another 'Beta' version......
3.6.3 could be improved as well to serve the customer. After all, it was a commercial release as well.
Yep, and it's continually being upgraded. Note following versions are numbered in sequence from 3.6.3 -> 3.7 -> 3.8 and now 3.9. That's the way most games are updated, I fail to see how anybody "dropped" anything... I suppose I could relate it to another game I play and what I should be upset that I can't play Counter Strike Beta 14 anymore? It's called progress/change and there's almost nothing more certain in this world than change. People's acceptance of this progress will go a long way to ensuring the game moves forward in a constructive manner. Then again, you have the right to continue to play 3.6.3, there's no law against that...
I'd call your attention to the list of fixes notated at the start of this thread. If you would like I'll list them again and show you who did what. I doubt I'll find more than about 5 or 6 names. Point is I wont find yours or for that matter the majority of the vocal members of the community that make it their business to highlight some minor issues with the game. This splash screen issue is minor to say the least, and is now fixed.
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ORIGINAL: Taitennek
I love to play the game and that has nothing to do with my critics about the commercial product itself and the way customers service handles the complaints about the product.
ok so what does?
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ORIGINAL: Taitennek
When designers ask me to test their home made scenario, I report to the designer in a honest way, but always with a positive mind and if possible, even with an AAR. this despite the frustrations when face another bug.
That is because I like it that way. That is my contribution to the community! Participation!
Who do you think you are to critisize me for that?[:-]
I wasn't criticising you for your participation. My shot at you was about the comments you made "after the fact". In other words rather than simply report you were having the same issue, you took the opportunity to take a cheap shot at the efforts people working on this project make. I DID NOT make any criticism of your participation, rather I was attacking your comments that could only be construed as coming from someone with a closed mind to any improvements that 3.9 may hold.
Who do I think I am? I'm Darren John Buckley, with 20 years experience of playing Harpoon, both PC versions and minis. I'd also like to point out that, this is an open forum and if you express an opinion you should also be able to accept any differing opinions that are aimed at you, due to your stated views.
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ORIGINAL: Taitennek
Darren, let me tell you my feelings about the [near] future of ANW......
As soon DG gets his military contracts, he stops improving ANW for the Public, and we have payed for it to make it possible and that's it..... Bye Bye Harpoon3 ANW.
That is sarcasm![:D]
And you know what is childish? That DG makes it impossible to let Pooners play the game they want [Removal of the PDB scenario Labraries for H3 and ANW from forums].
What participation and moving the game forward?
Go, wash your mouth with soap[;)]
Greetings,
Tait.
You have this backwards. Military contracts allow for the progression of the commercial/public version of the game to continue. It would be obvious to any thinking person, that a military contract is worth far more in dollar terms than the sales that are continually affected by the petty infighting within the community that commercial/public sales generate.
Now for the "PDB"
Can you tell me why I sink time into working on the HUD3 if within days any new material in my database will simply find their way into the PDB? I mean as it stands the entire HUD-II database is to be found within the PDB itself. What would happen to your precious PDB if I simply decided to refuse permission for my database to find it's way into the PDB? You'd have half a database then, wouldn't you? Even better what if I asked Herman to remove all of the HUD-II and HUD3 platforms from the PDB, and the same goes for the scenarios that use my platforms.
I have no hesitation in listing the platforms that have found their way into the PDB directly from the HUD series here or in any other forum. That would probably go along way in clearing up any confusion that exists in relation to the "copying issue" that, has been doing the rounds for months/years. I mean I feel like I'm pushing sh#t up hill when I do the work and others make it their own. I have the right to defend this game and the work the dedicated "few" put into it. I don't get paid and I do it for the love of this game system. What really irks me is the way people pass remarks about what they want, but are simply not prepared to invest the time in constructively moving H3ANW forward. I also have the right to defend how Mr Gilman wishes to run HIS company.
Regardless I am not going to waste any more time in discussing a non-issue. I await with bated breath the reports from users with an open mind to the many many improvements H3ANW 3.9.0 offers.
Cheers
Darren
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