RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone

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Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/16/2008 11:36:56 AM)
Alfred, I think your concerns mirror mine. 1. Alfred, I honestly don't know. I've even looked that force up in the database but can't find any reason. 2. Re: Katherine... Yeah, suffice it to say that given what I see happening in China in Troll's game with Hoepner my threshold for certain operations has fallen. I won't do BS things like dropping paras to stop movement BUT if he doesn't garrison something then, yes, he should expect me to paradrop onto it [:D]. Essentially though these are tiny pinprick landings which aren't decisive etc BUT which will F with his mind --- which is, IMO, the true target of most strategic manoeuvres. 3. Alfred, I think you might be right. Being strong and having the initiative allows one to pursue one's own plans and requires little strategic ability. It is only when on the back foot that true ability comes out. Well, in this game, Troll will be on the back foot. I actually DO wish him well as I would like to have a long-term, interesting game as Japan.

Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/18/2008 11:55:26 PM)
Well Troll dropped me a line and tells me I'll get a turn at the end of the week. So, things will continue, albeit slowly.

Andy Mac -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/19/2008 12:19:07 AM)
Excellent

Alfred -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/19/2008 4:51:17 AM)
At this rate, it will take about 7.5 years just to reach 1 Jan 1943 and the possibility of auto victory. I suppose the rate might quicken if Nemo121 agreed to (1) not attack in China, or Burma, or Australia, or India, or DEI, or Philippines, or New Guinea, and (2) for fighters produce only Nates and Claudes. Alfred

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/19/2008 5:18:36 AM)
Whats up with this ? either troll plays or he doesn't ? , maybe in2010 we will see 1943 , until then his bubble bursting ?

Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/22/2008 3:56:58 PM)
Personally I doubt we'll see January 1943 BUT if we do I've already told Troll ( when he asked ) that I intend to play through to 1946 and not play for autovictory or pay attention to it if it happens. Today basically boiled down to my well-balanced surface forces ( I chose most force mixes with great care... and the benefits showed ) trouncing Troll's surface strike forces in the DEI. In the Pacific ( where I have committed only light forces ( apart from KB ) his surface strike elements did better but even there the wearing down has begun in earnest and will continue until PH etc are isolated. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Mersing [Malaya], 23,50, firing at TF 4 TF 4 troops unloading over beach at Mersing [Malaya], 23,50 212 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AP Muro Maru ML Katoku Japanese ground losses: 488 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Mersing [Malaya], 23,50, firing at TF 5 TF 5 troops unloading over beach at Mersing [Malaya], 23,50 102 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DE Hashidate Japanese ground losses: 92 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37, firing at TF 24 TF 24 troops unloading over beach at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37 20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AP Kagi Maru Japanese ground losses: 153 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Palembang [Sumatra], 20,55, firing at TF 30 TF 30 troops unloading over beach at Palembang [Sumatra], 20,55 24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 283 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kuching [Sarawak], 27,56, firing at TF 35 TF 35 troops unloading over beach at Kuching [Sarawak], 27,56 4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 81 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kendari [Celebes], 33,71, firing at TF 37 TF 37 troops unloading over beach at Kendari [Celebes], 33,71 41 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DM Aotaka AK Nankai Maru DE Kuri, Shell hits 1 Japanese ground losses: 92 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90, firing at TF 88 TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90 Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90, firing at TF 98 TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90 2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships APD Minekaze Japanese ground losses: 25 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Balikpapan [Borneo], 31,64, firing at TF 105 TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan [Borneo], 31,64 7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AK Tarushima Maru Japanese ground losses: 50 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90, firing at TF 135 TF 135 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90 Japanese ground losses: 22 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90, firing at TF 184 TF 184 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90 Japanese ground losses: 42 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37, firing at TF 186 TF 186 troops unloading over beach at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37 Japanese ground losses: 226 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 117,70 Japanese Ships DD Tanikaze CV Kaga Allied Ships SS Pollack -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 22,44 Japanese Ships SS RO-68 Allied Ships CL Danae, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage The subs covering the escape route from Singapore to India continue to have a field day. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 21,47 Japanese Ships SS RO-64 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 21,47 Japanese Ships SS RO-64 Allied Ships MSW Maryborough -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 21,47 Japanese Ships SS RO-64 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Soerabaja [Java] at 23,66 Japanese Ships SS I-155 Allied Ships AK Batak, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Singora [Thailand] , at 24,43 Allied aircraft Blenheim IF-NF x 7 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Mersing [Malaya] at 23,50 Japanese Ships BB Haruna DD Natsugumo DD Minegumo DD Asashio Allied Ships SS KXIII, hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71 In the first major action of the night IJN surface forces won a one-sided victory whereing, over the course of the engagement, a Dutch CL and 4 Dutch DDs were sunk in return for extremely light damage to an IJN CL and DD. Japanese Ships CA Maya CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1 CL Natori CL Kuma DD Yamagumo DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Asakaze DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Banckert, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk DD Witte de With, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Kortenaer, Shell hits 4, on fire DD Piet Hein DD Alden DD Edsall DD John D. Edwards DD Whipple, Shell hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang [Sumatra] at 20,55 The two CLs which had been berthed at Palembang at the beginning of the war --- and heavily damaged by my carrier-based port attack --- attempted to escape. My SAG was waiting and despatched them without too much effort. It is, however, good training. Japanese Ships CA Takao CA Atago CL Isuzu DD Asagumo DD Murasame DD Harusame DD Yudachi Allied Ships CL Durban, Shell hits 9, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang [Sumatra] at 20,55 Japanese Ships CA Takao CA Atago CL Isuzu DD Asagumo DD Murasame DD Harusame DD Yudachi Allied Ships CL Dragon, Shell hits 46, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71 Japanese Ships CA Maya CA Ashigara CL Natori CL Kuma, Shell hits 3 DD Yamagumo DD Satsuki DD Minazuki DD Fumizuki DD Nagatsuki DD Asakaze DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze DD Hatakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire Allied Ships CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage DD Witte de With, Shell hits 30, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Kortenaer, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Piet Hein, Shell hits 6, on fire DD Alden DD Edsall DD John D. Edwards, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Whipple -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kenai [Alaska] at 112,29 Japanese Ships CL Akagi Maru Allied Ships AVD Gillis, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palmyra [LINE] at 110,90 I had rated it as unlikely that a USN SAG would try to strike my forces at Palmyra but likely enough that Katori was assigned as escort. She proved her worth fighting off the first attack of the night and keeping my transports safe. Japanese Ships CL Katori, Shell hits 4, on fire AP Kaito Maru AP Kotobuki Maru #3 AP Shintoku Maru AP Uji Maru AK Tatuharu Maru AK Canton Maru Allied Ships CA Indianapolis DMS Elliot DMS Southard, Shell hits 2, on fire DMS Long DMS Hopkins DMS Dorsey -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Lihue [Kauai] at 112,71 Japanese Ships AV Kinagawa Maru, Shell hits 31, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Ukishima Maru Allied Ships PT -21 PT -27 PT -28 PT -30 PT -42 Pests. Japanese ground losses: 46 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang [Sumatra] at 20,55 Japanese Ships CA Takao CA Atago CL Isuzu DD Asagumo DD Murasame DD Harusame DD Yudachi Allied Ships AK Khoen Hola, Shell hits 23, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat at 35,71 I had spotted Houston yesterday and felt a mid-ocean intercept was worth attempting. It worked and in return for two non-penetrating hits Houston was removed from the enemy fleets in DEI. Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC/SO3C Seagull: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2 CA Suzuya DD Shikinami DD Ayanami DD Sagiri Allied Ships CA Houston, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Tarakan [Borneo] at 34,60 Allied Ships SS KXVI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Mersing [Malaya] at 23,50 Japanese Ships DD Amagiri DD Yugiri DD Asagiri DD Murakumo DD Uranami DD Hatsuyuki DD Isonami DD Shirayuki Allied Ships SS KXIII, hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 23 troops unloading over beach at Cold Bay [Alaska], 105,36 Japanese ground losses: 49 casualties reported TF 23 troops unloading over beach at Cold Bay [Alaska], 105,36 Japanese ground losses: 49 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Mersing [Malaya], 23,50, firing at TF 4 TF 4 troops unloading over beach at Mersing [Malaya], 23,50 134 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships PG Saga Japanese ground losses: 220 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Mersing [Malaya], 23,50, firing at TF 5 TF 5 troops unloading over beach at Mersing [Malaya], 23,50 28 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DE Uji -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37, firing at TF 24 TF 24 troops unloading over beach at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37 36 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AK Wales Maru, Shell hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Palembang [Sumatra], 20,55, firing at TF 30 TF 30 troops unloading over beach at Palembang [Sumatra], 20,55 71 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AP Meisho Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire AK Johore Maru Japanese ground losses: 157 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kuching [Sarawak], 27,56, firing at TF 35 TF 35 troops unloading over beach at Kuching [Sarawak], 27,56 8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 25 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kendari [Celebes], 33,71, firing at TF 37 TF 37 troops unloading over beach at Kendari [Celebes], 33,71 10 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 48 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90, firing at TF 88 TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90 Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90, firing at TF 98 TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90 4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AP Teikyo Maru, Shell hits 1 Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Balikpapan [Borneo], 31,64, firing at TF 105 TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan [Borneo], 31,64 12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AP Miike Maru AK Tsurugisan Maru Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90, firing at TF 184 TF 184 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul [New Br], 62,90 Japanese ground losses: 4 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37, firing at TF 186 TF 186 troops unloading over beach at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37 Japanese ground losses: 184 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 22,44 Japanese Ships SS RO-68 Allied Ships MSW Bendigo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 22,44 More attacks on shipping attempting to run to India. Japanese Ships SS RO-68 Allied Ships PG Scorpion, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 22,44 Japanese Ships SS RO-68 Allied Ships AE Poyang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Los Angeles [CAL] at 146,51 Japanese Ships SS I-4, hits 8, on fire, heavy damage Damn, I-4 sinks. My attempt to interdict his naval forces on the coast of the USA has failed costing me two subs sunk and one seriously damaged. Lesson learnt. Allied Ships AVD Ballard, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Kilty DD Crane DD Kennison DD Crosby DD Dent DD Talbot DD Waters -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Tavoy [Burma] , at 28,37 Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 5 No Japanese losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Singapore [UK] , at 22,51 Japanese aircraft G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 97 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G3M2/Ki-42 Nell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses Buffalo/F2A: 10 destroyed Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed Swordfish I: 1 destroyed Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 32 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann x 54 Ki-21-II Sally x 279 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann: 6 damaged Ki-21-II Sally: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 25 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 13 Airbase supply hits 22 Runway hits 150 Vildebeesten? Hmm, he must have thought I'd be slack and not focus on keeping Manilla etc suppressed to prevent fortifications and attacks on my own forces. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Angeles/Clark [PH] , at 43,51 Japanese aircraft Ki-48-I Lily x 38 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48-I Lily: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 22 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Angeles/Clark [PH] , at 43,51 Japanese aircraft Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann x 51 Ki-48-I Lily x 71 Ki-21-II Sally x 8 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann: 2 damaged Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-35A Hawk: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor [Oahu] , at 114,72 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 8 A6M2-N Rufe-FF x 6 B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 45 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 14 P-36A Mohawk x 9 P-40B Tomahawk x 13 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe-FF: 3 destroyed B5N2/Ki-47 Kate: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 destroyed TBD Devastator: 2 destroyed B-18A/B-23 Bolo: 1 destroyed A-20B Boston: 1 destroyed PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed Runway hits 21 A costly and indecisive strike. Later in the day the G3Ms I've based at Johnston will intervene and that should help things along immeasurably in terms of keeping PH closed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on ROC 23rd Field Army , at 50,39 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 31 No Japanese losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on CW Hong Kong Fortress, at 43,42 Softening up prior to the ground assault. Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 7 Ki-27 Nate x 19 Ki-51 Sonia x 50 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 1 damaged Ki-51 Sonia: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 14 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on CW Hong Kong Fortress, at 43,42 Japanese aircraft E8N2 Dave x 38 E7K2 Alf x 46 E13A1 Jake x 6 Japanese aircraft losses E7K2 Alf: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Palembang [Sumatra] at 20,55 Allied aircraft Hudson IV x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Sunten Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching [Sarawak] at 27,56 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 2 Allied aircraft Hudson IV x 3 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Kinugawa Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 2 Allied aircraft Hudson IV x 3 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Nittai Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 22,62 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 77 Allied aircraft Martin 139/B-10 x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Martin 139/B-10: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships AO Notoro -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 22,62 Mini-KB is traipsing along down the eastern coast of Java with a view to inviting the Dutch airforce to impale itself on my CAP long before the main invasion fleet ( which would be vulnerable to strikes ) appears. Troll is, obligingly, being over-aggressive and wasting his resources when he should be husbanding them. To be fair though I doubt he has seen anyone willingly risk CVEs and CVLs like this before so it probably wasn't something he was expecting. Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 77 Allied aircraft Martin 139/B-10 x 9 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses Martin 139/B-10: 5 destroyed Japanese Ships AO Sensai Maru II AO Tsurumi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kenai [Alaska] at 112,29 Allied aircraft B-18A/B-23 Bolo x 8 P-40B Tomahawk x 17 Allied aircraft losses B-18A/B-23 Bolo: 1 damaged Japanese Ships CL Akagi Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 25,52 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 2 Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 15 Vildebeest IV x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Blenheim I: 2 damaged Vildebeest IV: 3 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Atago CA Takao, Bomb hits 1 CL Isuzu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 25,52 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 2 Allied aircraft Hudson IV x 9 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships CA Atago CA Takao -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pto Princesa [PLWN] at 39,55 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 27 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Fortuna, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 39,54 Japanese aircraft B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 6 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Peary, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 39,54 Japanese aircraft B4Y1 Jean x 9 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Peary, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 37,55 Japanese aircraft B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 9 Ki-51 Sonia x 17 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AS Holland, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 24 D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 13 B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 11 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 11 P-36A Mohawk x 8 P-40B Tomahawk x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke: 3 destroyed B5N2/Ki-47 Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 destroyed P-36A Mohawk: 5 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed Allied Ships BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 9, heavy damage He has put all his BBs, CLs etc out in single-ship TFs with a view to maximising my FlAK losses. Fine, I can replace pilots and planes more easily than he can replace BBs so I'll take that trade. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 22 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 P-36A Mohawk x 1 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2/Ki-47 Kate: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 19 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 12, on fire Most of these bombs didn't penetrate. Still, torpedo bombers will get Tennessee at some stage. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 18 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 16 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2/Ki-47 Kate: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships BB Nevada, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 15 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Allied Ships BB California, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 23 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2/Ki-47 Kate: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships BB Pennsylvania, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 15 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships DMS Zane DMS Chandler, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage DMS are priceless. He really should be trying to have such irreplaceable and fast assets escape. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 105,93 Japanese aircraft G4M1/Ki-50 Betty x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1/Ki-50 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships CA Indianapolis, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Indianapolis pays for its fun at Palmyra last night with a solid torpedo hit this morning. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Cagayan [Mndno] at 43,59 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 10 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AP Luzon, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 38,56 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 27 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Soochow, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 38,56 Japanese aircraft Ki-51 Sonia x 2 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Don Jose, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 38,56 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 2 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK St. Quentin, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pto Princesa [PLWN] at 39,55 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 3 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Morazan, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu [Cebu] at 43,57 Japanese aircraft B4Y1 Jean x 5 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Ravnaas AK Norse Carrier -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Changkufeng [Chosen] , at 63,34 Allied aircraft LaGG-3 x 12 Pe-2 x 7 Allied aircraft losses Pe-2: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 1 Pe-2s again. Ok, I've asked nicely on three occasions so now I'll convert a unit to Ki-109s and just shoot them down. It'll be a while yet as my priority in terms of Ki-109s is the squadron of Ki-27s on their way to PH which will convert to Ki-109s the day they land. But my 2nd Ki-109 squadron will go to taking out these Pe-2s. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Mersing [Malaya] , at 23,50 Japanese aircraft Ki-46-II/C7M2 Dinah x 1 No Japanese losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor [Oahu] , at 114,72 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 23 C3N1 Kate x 1 B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 50 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 12 P-36A Mohawk x 3 P-40B Tomahawk x 9 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke: 3 destroyed B5N2/Ki-47 Kate: 9 destroyed, 7 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 4 destroyed P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed Allied Ships PC Ontario, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 18 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Port hits 5 Port supply hits 1 This was done just to make sure that no valuable ships were still in PH harbour. Since the only ship hit was a PG I'm fairly sure there's nothing of greatl value there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor [Oahu] , at 114,72 Japanese aircraft G4M1/Ki-50 Betty x 78 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 P-36A Mohawk x 1 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1/Ki-50 Betty: 7 destroyed, 6 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged SBD-3 Dauntless: 13 destroyed B-18A/B-23 Bolo: 1 destroyed TBD Devastator: 5 destroyed PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed A-20B Boston: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 12 casualties reported Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 55 The FlAK hurt me but that's a good haul of SBDs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Palembang [Sumatra] at 20,55 Allied aircraft Martin 139/B-10 x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Nissyo Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 112,30 Allied aircraft P-40B Tomahawk x 12 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Ujina Maru AK Tsukuba Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 22,62 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 74 Allied aircraft Martin 139/B-10 x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Martin 139/B-10: 4 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kenai [Alaska] at 112,29 Allied aircraft B-18A/B-23 Bolo x 5 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Akagi Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan [Borneo] at 31,64 Allied aircraft T-IVa x 8 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Taiho Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Tenryu Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 110,32 Allied aircraft P-40B Tomahawk x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AS Yasukuni Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan [Borneo] at 31,64 Allied aircraft Beaufort VII x 6 Allied aircraft losses Beaufort VII: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Beauforts... These are effective ship-killers in the early months. Unfortunately for Troll tomorrow will see my rolling CAP move forward to most of my forward bases and effectively protect them. Japanese Ships BB Ise -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 2 Allied aircraft Beaufort VII x 3 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships CA Mikuma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pto Princesa [PLWN] at 39,55 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 7 B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 26 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Pope, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Taiping [Malaya] at 22,45 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 16 B4Y1 Jean x 4 B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 6 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2/Ki-47 Kate: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Jupiter, Torpedo hits 1 Another escaping DD from Singapore gets tagged. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore [UK] at 22,51 Japanese aircraft G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 12 No Japanese losses Allied Ships ML Kung Wo, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 105,93 Japanese aircraft G4M1/Ki-50 Betty x 3 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DMS Hopkins -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Rabaul [New Br] at 62,90 Japanese Ships AP Nichibi Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships CL Adelaide -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Rabaul [New Br] at 62,90 Japanese Ships AK Tokuhei Maru, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships CL Adelaide -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Kenai [Alaska] at 112,29 Japanese Ships CL Akagi Maru, on fire Allied Ships AVD Gillis, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Rabaul [New Br] at 62,90 Japanese Ships AV Kiyokawa Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire CL Kashima, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage APD Minekaze, Shell hits 1 APD Sawakaze APD Okikaze, Shell hits 1, on fire APD Yukaze APD Nokaze APD Namikaze APD Numakaze APD Patrol Boat No. 31, Shell hits 1 APD Patrol Boat No. 32 APD Patrol Boat No. 33 APD Patrol Boat No. 34, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage APD Patrol Boat No. 35, Shell hits 1, on fire CL Asaka Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire CL Saigon Maru AP Teikyo Maru, on fire CL Syoka Maru AK Kowa Maru AK Tateyama Maru Allied Ships CL Adelaide, Shell hits 29, on fire, heavy damage Now this really was hilarious. The Adelaide went into my convoy around Rabaul --- which is extremely lightly protected --- but the AMCs did their job and absolutely pulverised it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Tarakan [Borneo] at 34,60 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro, Torpedo hits 1 BB Fuso Allied Ships SS KXVI I have about 20 flotation damage but system damage is only about 5 so Yamashiro will be back in action in no time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Colombo [Ceylon] at 11,25 Japanese Ships SS I-159, hits 9 Allied Ships MSW Cromarty, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage MSW Romney SC Auricula SC Freesia MSW Cromer SC Hollyhock SC Aster SC Nigella -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese Ships SS I-10 Allied Ships MSW Seagull -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese Ships SS I-10 Allied Ships CL Phoenix DD Dale DD Blue -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Soerabaja [Java] at 23,66 Japanese Ships SS I-155 Allied Ships AK Benkalis, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Mersing [Malaya] at 23,50 Japanese Ships PC Ch 3 PC Ch 18 PC Ch 17 PC Ch 16 PC Ch 15 PC Ch 14 PC Ch 13 PC Ch 2 PC Ch 1 DE Uji DE Hashidate DD RTN Puket Allied Ships SS KXI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese Ships SS I-10 Allied Ships DD Mugford -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Hong Kong [UK] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 60552 troops, 950 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 1595 Defending force 8927 troops, 149 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 258 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3 Japanese max assault: 3218 - adjusted assault: 7596 Allied max defense: 153 - adjusted defense: 1501 Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong [UK] base !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed Walrus: 1 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 1356 casualties reported Guns lost 45 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 11471 casualties reported Guns lost 71 An excellent result. I have major convoys waiting just offshore to transport 4 of the divisions involved in the attack to the Phillipines where they will try to bring the siege of Manilla to a quick end. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Amboina [Ambon] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 4590 troops, 97 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 150 Defending force 1592 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 35 Japanese max assault: 308 - adjusted assault: 226 Allied max defense: 32 - adjusted defense: 21 Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Amboina [Ambon] base !!! Japanese ground losses: 57 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 1078 casualties reported Guns lost 14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Balikpapan [Borneo] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 6641 troops, 130 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 136 Defending force 1209 troops, 15 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 23 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese max assault: 260 - adjusted assault: 327 Allied max defense: 21 - adjusted defense: 13 Japanese assault odds: 25 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Balikpapan [Borneo] base !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Brewster 339D/F2A: 1 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 26 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Allied ground losses: 620 casualties reported Guns lost 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Palembang [Sumatra] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 4514 troops, 33 guns, 22 vehicles, Assault Value = 116 Defending force 987 troops, 21 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Japanese max assault: 198 - adjusted assault: 116 Allied max defense: 22 - adjusted defense: 22 Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese forces CAPTURE Palembang [Sumatra] base !!! Japanese ground losses: 157 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 18 casualties reported Defeated Allied Units Retreating! The oilfields fell into my hands perfectly intact. Its nice when a plan and force composition works out so nicely. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Rabaul [New Br] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 12519 troops, 180 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 218 Defending force 1359 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38 Japanese max assault: 444 - adjusted assault: 347 Allied max defense: 38 - adjusted defense: 27 Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese forces CAPTURE Rabaul [New Br] base !!! Japanese ground losses: 466 casualties reported Guns lost 9 Allied ground losses: 449 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Sinyang [Cent China] Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 15961 troops, 242 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 477 Defending force 11306 troops, 157 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 512 Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tarakan [Borneo] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 5640 troops, 65 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 193 Defending force 3299 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23 Japanese max assault: 382 - adjusted assault: 213 Allied max defense: 21 - adjusted defense: 63 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Japanese ground losses: 146 casualties reported Guns lost 6 Allied ground losses: 51 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Tomorrow. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Mersing [Malaya] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 47150 troops, 355 guns, 1113 vehicles, Assault Value = 1095 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 1850 - adjusted assault: 1977 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 1977 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese forces CAPTURE Mersing [Malaya] base !!! The Brits are running for Singapore... That's fine and won't yield quite the results Troll is expecting. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Singkawang [Borneo] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1925 troops, 12 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 88 Defending force 828 troops, 9 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 23 Japanese max assault: 190 - adjusted assault: 112 Allied max defense: 22 - adjusted defense: 16 Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Singkawang [Borneo] base !!! Japanese ground losses: 66 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 15 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kuching [Sarawak] Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1351 troops, 8 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 39 Defending force 7519 troops, 85 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 164 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tarakan [Borneo] Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 2995 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12 Defending force 5409 troops, 56 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 185 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kendari [Celebes] Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 489 troops, 8 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 16 Defending force 10171 troops, 129 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 166 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Pomala [Celebes] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 80 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 4 - adjusted assault: 4 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Pomala [Celebes] base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Port Blair [Andaman] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 29 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 2 - adjusted assault: 3 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Port Blair [Andaman] base !!! This is really just to freak him out a little [:D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kenai [Alaska] Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 129 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 4 - adjusted assault: 2 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Kenai [Alaska] base !!! At the end of this day I've lost 2 subs, 1 AK and 1 DD ( the one damaged by Boise yesterday ) but have sunk 104 enemy ships. In the air my losses are heavy but aerial resistance in Malaysia and the Phillipines has been crushed and the reduction of the US Pacific fleet is continuing apace. In addition my bomber streams and fighters are proceeding to their Phase 2 bases on schedule. Phase 2 will begin, on schedule, within one day either side of the 14th December as planned. 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Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/22/2008 4:06:00 PM)
And here's the next port of call of "Mini-KB's tour of Java". Enemy shipping appears to have turned away from the Jolo route of egress from the Phillipines and is heading for the straits near Singapore. With Kuching about to fall into my hands and G3Ms basing out of Palembang ( as well as B5Ns etc basing out of Mersing ) I don't think the Phillipine naval forces are going to have much luck in escaping. Importantly though I mustn't forget that Dutch naval forces could also be looking to escape and this move by mini-KB is designed to cut these forces off and ensure their annihilation. [image]local://upfiles/10809/C0A928CAA1494E5A86477C838161093F.jpg[/image]

Alfred -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/23/2008 12:22:58 PM)
Nemo121, Normally I find AAR based on CR to not be very interesting but this situation does not apply here. You have considerably enhanced the CR by 2 simple actions: (a) adding a geographical descriptor eg Sinyang [Cent China] which makes it much easier to conjure up a mental map of the location, and (b) annotating the significant confrontations to place them into a strategic context. These actions may increase your workload in writing up the AAR but I do appreciate your effort. If you have no objections (I disregard whatever views your opponent has on this point as being immaterial and believe that you will not be bullied) there are some points that I would like to hear your comments on. 1. Are the Allied ships fleeing to India doing so via the Malacca Straits. If so, I always believe this to be a great error as these ships remain in range of Nells/Bettys from Bangkok and Saigon. The far safer option is to egress on 8 December via the Sunda and Lombok Straits. Of course once Kuching and Balikpapan house Nells/Bettys these routes also become dangerous but never as much as the Malacca Straits. 2. Recently I noticed in another thread attacks by Pe-2 also under Soviet inactivation. I wonder whether the Pe-2 and LaGG-3 attack on Changkufeng is because some bug allows those units to be changed from Soviet command to another command? Surely if those "Soviet" units were stood down, the bug would be worked around. After 3 notifications I refuse to accept that your opponent is not compliant in their continuing sorties. 3. Why did you use Kates on AF suppression at PH? Personally I always consider dive bombers are better tasked for that mission and torpedo bombers should be left to deal with ships whether in TF or anchored. 4. Did the guns of your AP/AK at Palmyra and Rabaul significantly return fire? I am always amazed when I see in other mods Japanese merchantmen landing significant hits on Allied DD/CL. 5. Not being fully cognizant of your mod, could you please advise which map you use? It doesn't seem to be one of AB's variants but I could be much mistaken. 6. It is possible the Vildebeest you encountered in Manila may have been fleeing from Hong Kong, but if so why would your opponent still leave some Vildebeest and Walrus there. If on the other hand they were moved to Manila specifically to commence operations from that locality, then again I fear that discloses the lack of strategic skill of your opponent (cf earlier post). Vildebeest are too short legged to be used other than at choke points, which Manila is not, and would consume too many valuable supplies at Manila which could be better used by other units. 7. You were much too generous to your opponent in rationalising his use of Martin bombers against the mini KB. If those bombers had been escorted by fighters, that would be one thing, but being unescorted again demonstrates that he is overly aggressive when the strategic situation demands husbanding of resources. 8. I am not certain that I entirely agree that the placing of his capital ships into single ship TF at PH was the best response as it maximises flak damage done to your aircraft. By doing so he allowed them to be attacked and destroyed piecemeal whereas if they were consolidated into bigger TF your aircraft would drop sufficient ordnance to sink a ship 4 or 5 times in the TF but this overconcentration on the target allows the other BB to escape attention whilst still contributing their flak. 9. I assume that you paradroped onto Port Blair. If so, you really are being true to your word to use small paradrops to freak his mind.[:D] Personally my view is that any base in the war zone which is left ungarrisoned deserves to be captured by para or even sub borne commandos. Keep up the good work, you are off to a good start. On these fora, too many players are accorded high reputations because people mistake verbal bluster or computer skills for strategic ability. I too fully agree with you that good strategy will defeat gameyness. Alfred

Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/23/2008 6:19:43 PM)
Alfred, interesting comments. I'll address them in turn. 1. Yes, you are correct in assuming that I will tend to do what I think is reasonable even should my opponent have a different viewpoint regarding my writing of an AAR [8D]. This AAR will only stop if my opponent quits the game. It's that simple. 2. Re: fleeing Allied ships... Well the initial group (those from Singapore) have been using the Sumatra/Malaysia channel. To be fair he had to make this decision on the second turn when all he knew was that mini-KB was hanging out south-east of Palembang and that I was attacking Palembang ( a level 5 airfield at game start ). The Malacca straits looked like a good option as I only had 2 Level 2 airfields there and only 30 aviation support points to support aerial operations. Unfortunately he didn't really join up his thinking IMO and so his ground forces abandoned Alor Star in response to my landings at Mersing long before his ships had fully cleared the Sumatran/Malaysian channel. The end result is that as of 11th December 1941 I have paradropped and taken Alor Star and based slightly over 100 G3Ms there to complete the butchery of his ships from Singapore. Jagdfluger or I would have understood that we needed to sacrifice a Bde to hold Alor Star for another 2 days to allow the shipping to escape, Troll didn't seem to make that assessment. Initially the Jolo passage was most heavily interdicted but I planned it such that I was interdicting with planes with long ferry ranges ( B5Ns, floatplanes etc ) such that the redirection of the enemy flight could easily be compensated for by flying planes to bases in Boreo/Sumatra or Malaysia as appropriate. He would, IMO, have been better just mobbing the escape route in between Sumatra and Java ( although it would have availed him nothing as this is what I was expecting and so I'd brought along enough fleet oilers to refuel mini-KB many times over ) and had the ships from the Phillipines mob Amboina and Kendari. 3. Pe-2s. Aye. Still, if discussion doesn't work then I'm perfectly happy to resort to non-verbal communications.... by shooting them down and continuing to shoot them down until such time as they are stood down. I don't really tend to sweat the details as, IMO, wars and campaigns are decided by the overall logistical competencies and situations of the opponents ( and to a much smaller extent their maximisation of the technical-tactical characteristics of their weapons systems ) and far less by any operational and tactical niceties. 4. Kates on AF attack... Well I didn't want to lose all my D3As to the murderous FlAK over PH so I refuse to commit divebombers to the FlAK there. In any case I don't plan to land my major invasion forces for another 3 or 4 days yet so I have plenty of time to attrit the forces at Pearl. There is one other reason --- My Kates were going to take fewer losses and FAR less of a morale hit in that AF strike than my Vals would and I was hoping that his CVs might show up today IF he thought I had all my Kates on AF/Port attack missions. So, there was a maskirovka at work also wherein my anti-CV strikes today were preserved relative to what they would have been had my Vals had the AF duty. He didn't take the bait though. 5. APs/AKs. No, the Armed Merchant Cruisers ( with 6 inch guns but paper-thin armour ) did the damage to the Allied CLs. At Palmyra my CL accomplished little but at Rabaul several AMCs and AVs ( also with 5 or 6 ich guns ) proved more than a match for the Oz CL). 6. I had thought of this afterward. Looking back that Vildebeest was obviously from Hong Kong. Sometimes we draw the right conclusion for the wrong reason ;-). 7. Oh I hadn't intended to imply that placing all his ships in single ship TFs at PH was his "best" response. His best response would have been to run for it. This would have saved a portion of his ships. As it is now he stands to lose them all and no matter how hard my pilots are to replace he can replace BBs and CAs/CLs etc far less readily than I can replace those pilots. He has, IMO, chosen poorly. One other interesting thing I've noted today is that he has formed the same "defence" at Singapore and Soerabaja. From jagdfluger I'd know there was a well-thought out reason and be looking for a trap. I think, however, that in Troll's case this is simply a knee-jerk response. Bear in mind though that since his TFs are docked each individual BB gets supported by ALL the FlAK at PH ( which is far more than is carried by even 4 or 5 BBs). So, mathematically he has actually maximised the number of guns which fire at each of my planes per attack run and has increased the number of attack runs I require. Still, I think it isn't the best choice he could have made but we'll have to see how it turns out. 8. Hehe, indeed. Today brings more of it - most particularly at Alor Star as he abandoned it precipitously. Tomorrow will bring more again, including at least one more significant base he really should have reinforced already. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/10/41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kuching [Sarawak], 27,56, firing at TF 35 TF 35 troops unloading over beach at Kuching [Sarawak], 27,56 13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AP Hikade Maru, Shell hits 1 Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kendari [Celebes], 33,71, firing at TF 37 TF 37 troops unloading over beach at Kendari [Celebes], 33,71 12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DE Kuri Japanese ground losses: 70 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37, firing at TF 186 TF 186 troops unloading over beach at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37 4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 118 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 74 encounters mine field at Hong Kong [UK] (43,42) Japanese Ships MSW W.14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 22,44 Japanese Ships SS RO-63 Allied Ships AK Darvel, Torpedo hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 21,43 Japanese Ships SS RO-67 Allied Ships AK Pangkor, Shell hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 21,43 Japanese Ships SS RO-67 Allied Ships AE Poyang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Soerabaja [Java] at 23,66 Japanese Ships SS I-155 Allied Ships AK Ban Ho Guan, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Singora [Thailand] , at 24,43 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Blenheim IF-NF x 6 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IF-NF: 3 damaged Runway hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Balikpapan [Borneo] at 31,64 Japanese Ships DD Hatsuharu DD Nenohi DD Hatsushimo Allied Ships SS KXVIII -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Soerabaja [Java] at 23,66 Japanese Ships SS I-155 Allied Ships AVD Mercel PC Albatros MSW Eland Dubois MSW Abraham Crijnssen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Sydney [Australia] at 38,125 Japanese Ships SS I-175, hits 5, on fire Allied ASW is deadly from day 1. Allied Ships DD Voyager PC Doomba MSW Wollongong MSW Whyalla MSW Toowoomba MSW Bathurst DD FF Le Triomphant -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Tarakan [Borneo], at 34,60 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Chidori DD Manazuru, Shell hits 1, on fire BB Fuso BB Yamashiro Allied ground losses: 116 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Diamond Harbour at 28,23 Japanese Ships SS I-121, hits 1 Allied Ships PG Jumna PG Hindustan PG Indus -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 15 encounters mine field at Lanai [Hawaii] (114,73) TF 15 troops unloading over beach at Lanai [Hawaii], 114,73 Japanese ground losses: 90 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 141 troops unloading over beach at Niihau Island [HW], 112,72 Japanese ground losses: 40 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kuching [Sarawak], 27,56, firing at TF 35 TF 35 troops unloading over beach at Kuching [Sarawak], 27,56 8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AP Hikade Maru, Shell hits 2 Japanese ground losses: 21 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kendari [Celebes], 33,71, firing at TF 37 TF 37 troops unloading over beach at Kendari [Celebes], 33,71 7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AK Koryu Maru Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37, firing at TF 186 TF 186 troops unloading over beach at Dutch Harbor [AK], 102,37 10 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 43 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 64 encounters mine field at Hong Kong [UK] (43,42) Japanese Ships MSW W.1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 34,62 Japanese Ships DD Manazuru, heavy damage Allied Ships SS KXVI This DD is running from Tarakan to Balikpapan where it will dock under cover of friendly fighters. I have Zeroes covering it today and tomorrow Oscars will cover Balikpapan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 22,44 Japanese Ships SS RO-63 Allied Ships DD Tenedos, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Mersing [Malaya] at 23,50 Japanese Ships DD Natsugumo DD Minegumo DD Asashio DD Oshio DD Michishio DD Arashio Allied Ships SS KXI, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wuchow [C China] , at 42,39 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 18 Ki-51 Sonia x 51 Ki-15II/C5M2 Babs x 2 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-51 Sonia: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Singapore [UK] , at 22,51 Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 12 Ki-43-I Oscar x 5 Ki-46-II/C7M2 Dinah x 2 Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 2 damaged Port hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann x 51 Ki-21-II Sally x 247 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann: 5 damaged Ki-21-II Sally: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed PBY-5 Catalina: 2 destroyed Allied ground losses: 44 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 21 Airbase supply hits 13 Runway hits 259 These strikes are costly but necessary in terms of keeping the airfield closed and preventing the building of forts. Tomorrow my Ki-21s will move out and split with 50% going to Hawaii to suppress PH and the other 50% going to Palembang to close the route of egress for enemy freighters. The blockade will look as follows: Brunei: Floatplanes and a few D3As and Sonias. Saigon: Ki-48s Palembang: A few B5Ns and about 150 Ki-21s in addition to a CAP of roughly 40 Oscars. Mersing: A horde of D3As and B5Ns/B4Ys Alor Star: 150 G3Ms and a horde of D3As and B5Ns. A you can see from the picture below his ships truly are hemmed in. I don't expect many to survive at all AND, in the dying, they provide excellent training. I could have killed them much more quickly but only if I hadn't allowed the 250+ trainee dive, torpedo and floatplane pilots to be forward based and, quite frankly, I'm a training fanatic so preferentially basing my trainees forward for some live fire training took precedence over quickness of the kill. In any case I don't have any major need for the Ki-21s and Ki-48s for the next few days and so that was factored in. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Angeles/Clark [PH] , at 43,51 Japanese aircraft Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann x 38 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses Allied ground losses: 18 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 27 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Angeles/Clark [PH] , at 43,51 Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 2 No Japanese losses Runway hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on ROC 75th Guerilla Regiment, at 47,41 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 64 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 32 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Naga/Pili/Daet [PH] at 44,53 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 5 Allied aircraft OS2U-3 Kingfisher x 5 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Kiri Maru, Bomb hits 1 USN floatplanes nibble around the edges of my landing forces. I should point out that the vulnerability of my transports has increased markedly as those which have unloaded are on their way back to the Home Islands and China for follow-on forces with minimal escorts ( I am concentrating my escorts on those ships which still have troops onboard for obvious reasons ). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 2 Allied aircraft T-IVa x 5 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses T-IVa: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships AK Nittai Maru AK Koryu Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 2 Allied aircraft Beaufort VII x 8 Hudson IV x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Beaufort VII: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Kenyo Maru AP Nissen Maru #2 AK Raizan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kenai [Alaska] at 112,29 Allied aircraft B-18A/B-23 Bolo x 6 Allied aircraft losses B-18A/B-23 Bolo: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Ujina Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 22 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 25,64 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 54 Allied aircraft Martin 139/B-10 x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Martin 139/B-10: 2 destroyed More Martins fly to their doom against what is an overwhelming CAP given the lack of escorts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 110,32 Allied aircraft Blenheim IV x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Akagi Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 110,32 Allied aircraft P-40B Tomahawk x 17 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Akagi Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan [Borneo] at 31,64 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 17 Allied aircraft Hudson IV x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Hudson IV: 2 damaged Japanese Ships BB Ise, Bomb hits 1 'Twas non-damaging. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 2 Allied aircraft T-IVa x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses T-IVa: 1 damaged Japanese Ships CA Mikuma, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Well, well, Mikuma gets clobbered. Well, that's OK, tomorrow I'll have Zeroes in the air over Kendari and will put a stop to this sort of attrition of battleline units. Mikuma should survive but will be docked at Kendari as a precautionary measure. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kenai [Alaska] at 112,29 Allied aircraft Blenheim IV x 8 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Fukushu Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 115,74 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 10 No Allied losses Japanese Ships DMS Shumushu, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Oops, I forgot to give Shumushu instructions to remain under KB's CAP and it paid the price. All 3 hits were by 1000 lbers so Shumushu sank immediately. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Manila/Cavite [PH] at 43,52 Japanese aircraft Ki-51 Sonia x 2 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Princess of Negros, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Malacca [Malaya] at 22,48 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 27 No Japanese losses Allied Ships MSW Goulburn, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage And the escapees from Singapore continue to learn that they have chosen a poor route of egress. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Makassar [Celebes] at 30,70 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 11 G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 8 E13A1 Jake x 2 No Japanese losses Allied Ships TK JMG den Hartog, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 21,42 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 3 B4Y1 Jean x 5 B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 6 No Japanese losses Allied Ships CL Manoora, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 14 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 23 P-36A Mohawk x 2 P-40B Tomahawk x 8 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2/Ki-47 Kate: 14 destroyed Hmm, no escorts despite the abundance of escorts later in the day. Ah well, that's life. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 29 D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 22 B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 9 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 23 P-36A Mohawk x 2 P-40B Tomahawk x 7 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke: 3 destroyed D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged B5N2/Ki-47 Kate: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 9 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed Allied Ships BB Maryland, Bomb hits 15, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 14 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 13 P-36A Mohawk x 2 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 damaged Allied Ships CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 6, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 16 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 13 P-36A Mohawk x 2 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships BB Nevada, Bomb hits 6, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft G4M1/Ki-50 Betty x 8 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 13 P-36A Mohawk x 2 P-40B Tomahawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1/Ki-50 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships DMS Zane AVD Hulbert He still hasn't evacuated those DMS. This is a major strategic error. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore [UK] at 22,51 Japanese aircraft G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 8 No Japanese losses Allied Ships PC Bellatrix, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu [Cebu] at 43,57 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 6 Ki-51 Sonia x 16 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Norse Carrier, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore [UK] at 22,51 Japanese aircraft G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 5 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Kinta -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor [Oahu] , at 114,72 Japanese aircraft G4M1/Ki-50 Betty x 80 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 13 P-36A Mohawk x 2 P-40B Tomahawk x 6 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1/Ki-50 Betty: 12 destroyed, 13 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 damaged P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 1 damaged PBY-5 Catalina: 2 destroyed Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported Runway hits 10 Until the Ki-21s arrive and can take the brunt of the losses I am forced to accept extremely heavy Betty losses. By the end of the first week though I'll be able to properly husband my Bettys. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 111,34 Allied aircraft Blenheim IV x 6 No Allied losses Japanese Ships ML Saishu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 1 Allied aircraft Martin 139/B-10 x 3 T-IVa x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses T-IVa: 1 damaged Japanese Ships DE Kuretake AK Muroran Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 25,64 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 53 Allied aircraft Martin 139/B-10 x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AO Sensai Maru I -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 110,32 Allied aircraft P-40B Tomahawk x 17 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Akagi Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 1 Allied aircraft Martin 139/B-10 x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Martin 139/B-10: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships CA Mikuma, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan [Borneo] at 31,64 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 16 Allied aircraft Hudson IV x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Hudson IV: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships AK Tokiwasan Maru, Bomb hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Jolo [Jolo] at 39,59 Japanese aircraft F1M2 Pete-FF x 2 Allied aircraft OS2U-3 Kingfisher x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 damaged Japanese Ships CA Myoko, Bomb hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 38,56 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 10 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Pope, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 34,48 Japanese aircraft Ki-48-I Lily x 12 No Japanese losses Allied Ships PG Moth, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 22,49 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 15 B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 27 Ki-43-I Oscar x 13 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Dayak And the prize for luckiest ship in the Allied force goes to Dahak. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Cebu [Cebu] at 43,57 Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 4 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Norse Carrier, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 28,70 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 15 G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G3M2/Ki-42 Nell: 1 destroyed Allied Ships TK Angelina -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 37,55 Japanese aircraft E7K2 Alf x 20 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Empire Baron, Bomb hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 39,54 Japanese aircraft E7K2 Alf x 3 No Japanese losses Allied Ships TK Gertrude Kellogg, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 37,55 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 2 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Bisayas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke x 30 D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 12 B5N2/Ki-47 Kate x 26 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 11 P-36A Mohawk x 1 P-40B Tomahawk x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2/Ki-65 Zeke: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 7 destroyed P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed Allied Ships BB California, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 8 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 5 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 1 destroyed Allied Ships BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 5, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 10 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 5 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 1 damaged Allied Ships BB Arizona, Bomb hits 4, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor [Oahu] at 114,72 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val/Ki-52 x 10 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 5 P-40B Tomahawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val/Ki-52: 1 destroyed Allied Ships BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 6, heavy damage I haven't really been keeping a proper count BUT it looks to me like his battleline is pretty much scuppered now and the time approaches where my 2 BBs and 2 CAs will be sufficient to withstand what remains. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 31,51 Japanese aircraft Ki-48-I Lily x 21 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AP Ariadne Moller -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Kenai [Alaska] at 112,29 Japanese Ships AK Tsukuba Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire AK Ujina Maru, on fire Allied Ships DD Kane Japanese ground losses: 75 casualties reported Guns lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Norfolk I [AUST] at 60,123 Japanese Ships AP Nichiryo Maru, Shell hits 6 AP Teizui Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire Allied Ships CL Leander CL Achilles Ah, Leander and Achilles come out of the woodwork but only to inconclusive effect. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Tarakan [Borneo] at 34,60 Japanese Ships AK Kogyo Maru Allied Ships SS S-39 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kendari [Celebes] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 11283 troops, 134 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 161 Defending force 721 troops, 13 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 16 Japanese max assault: 330 - adjusted assault: 246 Allied max defense: 14 - adjusted defense: 13 Japanese assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Kendari [Celebes] base !!! Japanese ground losses: 37 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 735 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kuching [Sarawak] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 8076 troops, 101 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 166 Defending force 1348 troops, 8 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 38 Japanese max assault: 358 - adjusted assault: 134 Allied max defense: 39 - adjusted defense: 77 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Japanese ground losses: 550 casualties reported Guns lost 8 Allied ground losses: 68 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Reinforcements will land tomorrow and then we'll try again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Sinyang [Cent China] Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 16040 troops, 244 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 480 Defending force 11350 troops, 156 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 513 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tarakan [Borneo] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 5490 troops, 59 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 187 Defending force 2965 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9 Japanese max assault: 378 - adjusted assault: 164 Allied max defense: 7 - adjusted defense: 29 Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Tarakan [Borneo] base !!! Japanese ground losses: 25 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 6142 casualties reported Guns lost 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Dutch Harbor [AK] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 4010 troops, 45 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 68 Defending force 670 troops, 12 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese max assault: 134 - adjusted assault: 27 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 13 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Dutch Harbor [AK] base !!! Allied ground losses: 788 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Norfolk I [AUST] Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 539 troops, 4 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 25 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 25 - adjusted assault: 4 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Norfolk I [AUST] base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kuching [Sarawak] Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1254 troops, 6 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 32 Defending force 7357 troops, 86 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 134 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lanai [Hawaii] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1097 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 66 - adjusted assault: 33 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 33 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Lanai [Hawaii] base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Niihau Island [HW] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 285 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 28 - adjusted assault: 16 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Niihau Island [HW] base !!! There's no real reason behind this except that it gets the troops off a sinking AV --- and hopefully confuses Troll a little as to what my true plans are. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Victoria Point [BMA] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 772 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 41 Defending force 510 troops, 14 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese max assault: 38 - adjusted assault: 18 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 7 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported Guns lost 1 This really is a pity, I had hoped to take Victoria Point by surprise. As it is I'll only take it tomorrow. Still, it is a nice paraborne assault and shows what can be done. Once I upgrade all of my transports to Tabbys and my patrol planes to transport versions of the Mavis I should really be able to put some big paraborne landings in. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Taiping [Malaya] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 40 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 0 - adjusted assault: 2 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese forces CAPTURE Taiping [Malaya] base !!! He's withdrawn so quickly that even Taiping is clear of Allied troops. I christen thee Sir Robin [8D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Fernando [PH] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1184 troops, 64 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 61 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 8 - adjusted assault: 3 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE San Fernando [PH] base !!! [image]local://upfiles/10809/1DEAC7113B9C4745B83E24325E9DCB58.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/23/2008 6:24:31 PM)
And here you can see the invasion force for Hawaii. It features 3 Bdes of infantry but a lot of engineers, AAA and aviation support troops. The idea is to pick up a couple of bases and then simply bomb Hawaii into submission with a committment of no more than 80 fighters and 220 bombers ( including G4Ms dedicated to naval interdiction). In short, I'm trying to "do Hawaii" on the cheap. KB will then disappear and mini-KB will be reinforced by CVA Yamato and cover the invasion of India in 6ish weeks time. [image]local://upfiles/10809/69BF158361724E4B87598999F5CB9F3F.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/24/2008 1:18:30 AM)
Good to see this AAR continuing Nemo , thank you. Death to the evil Torricans,Trollish and the Truch [;)]

Fishbed -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/24/2008 1:33:31 AM)
quote: And here you can see the invasion force for Hawaii. It features 3 Bdes of infantry but a lot of engineers, AAA and aviation support troops. The idea is to pick up a couple of bases and then simply bomb Hawaii into submission with a committment of no more than 80 fighters and 220 bombers ( including G4Ms dedicated to naval interdiction). In short, I'm trying to "do Hawaii" on the cheap. Adm.Laurent's style indeed seems most indicated... Good luck Nemo!

Alfred -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/24/2008 9:56:47 AM)
Nemo121, Do you think your opponent (re his tactical withdrawals in Malaya) considers himself to be emulating Heinrici and is withdrawing to the Seelowe Heights (oops, mean Singapore [:D]). Of course on 16 April 1945, Heinrici only withdrew a short distance to his second defence line, not some 240 miles! If moving back to his Seelowe Heights was his intention, then he could have created some Fast Transport TF out of his ships fleeing through the Malacca Straits. Nah, that would presuppose on his part too much clear planning and analysis of his opponent's actions- your assessment of knee jerk reaction seems closer to the mark. Alfred

Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/24/2008 4:55:29 PM)
chuckle I seriously doubt that he's familiar enough with the Seelowe Heights to be able to argue that this is a fallback to a second line in order to avoid a crushing, prepared blow a la Seelowe, nevermind the fact that there is a massive difference between withdrawing to prepared positions to avoid a Soviet firestrike and running headlong to an unprepared position. He will try to hold at Johore Bahru and, for a time, I'll let him as it suits my purposes. More of that anon. As to using FT TFs to withdraw fragments for rebuilding. No, he hasn't taken the opportunity to do that - I can tell because none of the ships I've sunk in the Malacca Straits have been carrying any personnel. He'll get a second bite of the cherry using flying boats out of Rangoon once he realises his forces in Malaysia are utterly and irrevocably trapped and about to be overrun but, again, I have a plan for dealing with that by adjusting the strategic situation more quickly than he can adjust to changes. I can't stop him saving the fragments entirely but I can increase the cost and reduce his return on his losses such that it won't be worth it in the long-term.

Alfred -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (3/25/2008 9:23:06 AM)
I wasn't suggesting he might use FT TF to evacuate cadres to India. I meant using them to pick up whole units (or as large a contingent as possible) from Kuala Lumpur, Malacca etc to bring them into Festung Seelowe Heights (oops again, Singapore[:D]). The distance involved would mean he could do the whole trip within 24 hours thus minimizing the chances of aerial interception. It isn't necessarily a maneouvre I would personally follow, but if his strategy is to run to to Singapore then at least it would be more efficacious and at least get some value out of his doomed ships. I am pleased to see that you did not claim to have a "cunning" plan - much as I admire Blackadder, I don't think emulating him is the way to victory in WITP. Alfred

Alfred -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/3/2008 5:28:28 AM)
Nemo121, I don't wish to antagonise anyone but is the silence due either to you being too busy to update the AAR, or your opponent's muse not inspiring him to send you a turn? I rather suspect the latter is the case. Alfred

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/3/2008 7:15:21 PM)
Alfred , you got my hopes up that a new post had happened [;)] I wonder much the same too

Grollub -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/3/2008 8:09:40 PM)
Agreed.

1275psi -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/4/2008 8:09:46 AM)
here too!

Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/5/2008 12:48:21 PM)
Well, it would appear that my opponent's muse has led him to conclude that after 3 days of combat ( and all the time I spent on the setup for the first turn ) that he doesn't have the time for this game at this time. I think that this decision puts the game vs Gen. Hoeppner into proper perspective given that it appears to be continuing.

cantona2 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/5/2008 1:11:20 PM)
Sorry guys but the guy's a twat.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/5/2008 4:43:44 PM)
I concur , sorry your time was wasted Nemo [:(]

Andy Mac -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/5/2008 4:59:56 PM)
Wow not a lot to say ....

aztez -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/5/2008 5:55:02 PM)
This doesn't suprise me at all. He noticed that he is about to get ass kicked... than... oh, well his track record speaks for itself. Sorry to hear about the time wasted!

Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/5/2008 6:58:27 PM)
Well, on the plus side it means that if anyone wants a game of my mod with me I now have an opening [:D]. The only thing would be that since I have an Allied game going it'd have to be a game as the Japs ( albeit that they have been further weakened in V1.1 --- which Mifune should be posting soon ) with the usual no-holds barred approach. Ps. Rob etc, I don't think the time was wasted: a) While I did take time to do the first turn the week before my Part III Psych Specialisation exams I just found out a couple of days ago that I got those exams so... 5 down, 1 more to go and then no more exams for me ever ;-)... so whatever time it took wasn't missed and b) I challenged him to give him a fair crack at a game with open rules in which good play would matter more than rule negotiations etc. c) I felt it was worth doing in order to establish his bona fides. I thought it unlikely that he was "just misunderstood" but it was a possibility --- hence the game. I think though that through the medium of this game it is now abundantly clear exactly what we're dealing with. It has also been made clear in an open fashion so there can be no attempt to hide behind some chimera which explains his conduct in less than damning terms. So, if anyone's interested in a game using my mod with the following house rules: 1. No exploitation of game bugs. 2. No air-deployed mines ( game bug ) 3. No use of G9Ms for port attack missions ( their torps would hit the harbour bottom no matter what modifications were made ). 4. No use of Ki-264s below 20,000 feet ( has to do with how the code represents PGMs in-game ). 5. No dive-bombers on naval attack can fly at greater than 25,000 feet. Same rule applies to kamikazes in the late war period. 6. No shipping in shipping lanes ( around the map edges ) can lurk there attacking IJA bases as those shipping lanes are sacrosanct and the IJA and IJN are banned from attacking ships in them --- unless within 4 hexes of an exit point ). No limits on PTs, no limits on ASW TFs, no limits on using bombers for naval attack, no limits on transfers between regions etc. Auto-victory will be disregarded. The goal is to play through into 1946. Changes to the latest version 1.1... 1. Increased P-40E, Kittyhawk, MiG-3 and other fighter replacement rates by 50%. 2. Have increased the universality of Allied upgrade paths --- e.g. Soviet Li-2 transports ( C-47 clones ) can upgrade to C-47s etc. Lets the Allied make more use of plentiful pools if some units run low. 3. Have delayed the arrival of the Ki-264 series from early 1942 to Mid-42/early 43. This gives the Allies a breather in early 42. 4. Have delayed the arrival of 6 divisions of IJA troops from early 42 to early 43. This is to prevent the ground steamroller I am facing in my game. I want the Allied player to be pressed but not to be annihilated by mid-42. 5. Delayed the introduction of Ki-109 from 12/41 to March 42 which should give the Allies a real breather in early-42 and help put the brakes on the Japs. 6. Fixed the P-38 and other twin-engined fighters so that they are now competitive. 7. Several key IJN ships are delayed a bit more. Basically the point is that I concluded that Japan got too strong too quickly in 1942 and could just run far more rampant than I had envisioned. As such I've curtailed it a bit by giving them the same things but giving them those ships, planes and units up to 6 months later. In short this means that the Allies won't be pushed back quite as far and will have a slightly better base to fight back from. Fighting back from Just India, which is what I think will happen in my game, is a bit too much of an ask of the Allied player.

Nomad -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/6/2008 6:40:09 AM)
Just one little note on house rule 2 - no air mining. It has been confirmed that the code was written so that no intercepts were possible. So it is not really a game bug, but it is working as designed. Now, whether it is right or not is something else. I would try to work out some kind of agreement on limits to air mining rather than a complte ban. I just am not sure what the limits should be. But, at the same time there is word that the total minefields for both sides is limited to 4000 fields. And every mining activity uses one slot until it is swept.

Nemo121 -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/6/2008 7:32:23 AM)
Nomad, Aye, I was unclear... One other guiding concept is that if something is happening in a way that is unrealistic and ahistorical then it shouldn't happen. E.g. Planes coded so that they can NEVER be intercepted is obviously ahistorical and so if there's a mission which guarantees results without any risk of interception then that mission should be banned for both sides. Personally I don't care if they make the risk of interception 1% or 0.1%, I just care that the obvious error wherein planes can fly with NO risk of interception at all is fixed. It should be noted that I apply this same rule to myself when I play as Allies. Obviously though if someone felt really strongly about it and it was the last remaining barrier to agreeing a game then I'm sure some compromise would be worked out as aerial mining was a pretty important thing for the Allies. I've seen compromises like "1 bomber group, named and nominated, can air-mine. All others can't." That prevents the entire Allied bomber fleet being committed to the mission and seems like a reasonable compromise to me.

Alfred -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/6/2008 10:48:36 AM)
Sorry to see the end of this game, Nemo121, I was very much looking forward to seeing your comments on strategic issues. Personally I never had any doubt that your opponent was incapable of providing you with any noticeable opposition, let alone provide you with a worthy opportunity to test your mod. Let us be blunt here, your opponent, who if memory serves me right, had previously boasted of defeating all Allied players by mid 1942 (prior to Gen Hoepner whose continued resistance must be so irksome to him, hence the ultimatum re that AAR), has resigned this game for exactly the same reasons as his defeated Allied players did, except they at least had the skill to last 6 months. In addition to him continuing on with his Gen Hoepner game, he is also continuing the Allied game he recently took over. He was aware of his commitments, both personal and to yourself, when he accepted your challenge. I can think of no greater sins which can be committed in PBEM than those which he regularly commits against any of his opponents who have the audacity (by not losing) to not recognise his self delusional genius. His behaviour is consistent with that exhibited by many of the princes and princesses of the Chinese Communist party who rely upon connections (usually their parents) to achieve business and political success, being incapable of achieving anything solely on their own skill. Alfred

castor troy -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/6/2008 12:47:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nemo121 Well, it would appear that my opponent's muse has led him to conclude that after 3 days of combat ( and all the time I spent on the setup for the first turn ) that he doesn't have the time for this game at this time. I think that this decision puts the game vs Gen. Hoeppner into proper perspective given that it appears to be continuing. I don�t have to express what I�m really thinking about this guy because I�m pretty much the same oppinion as most forum members about this "trollelite". [8\|] When I think about his "all other players here are just weaklings and I�m the only one who knows how to play this game" postings then I can just hope he disappears as fast as he came up thos couple of weeks with his BS. Sorry to hear you wasted all your time but honestly, I would have been completely suprised if this guy would have sticked to the game. Better he quits after turn 3 than 30.

Andy Mac -> RE: Defeating Perfidious Imperialists - Nemo (J) vs Trollelite (A) - Troll-free zone (4/6/2008 2:04:59 PM)
:) I cannot comment as I made you do a restart and then abandoned the game so I wont sling mud as it would be a little hypocritical !!!

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