EdinHouston -> France's surrender (8/21/2008 4:31:30 PM)
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I am curious about other players' experiences about what it takes to make France surrender. I played the game solitaire quite a few times as the Germans, and it seemed like French casualties didnt matter too much. What mattered was taking their cities (assuming no food problems). In every game, I took the 3 northeastern cities (Dunkirk/Lille/Arras) for 14 points, the border forts for 17 points, and Paris and Epernay for 33 points. But in no case was that enough for France to surrender. It seemed like I needed another 10 or 15 points from Dijon, Rouen, Orleans, or Lyon. In a couple cases I had destroyed most of the french army (literally down to a few units) and France still didnt surrender until more cities fell. In a game against a human opponent, the same seemed to be true, but in a game as the TE against a human player, France surrendered after Paris fell, even though I still held Epernay, Rouen, Dijon, and everything behind that (and my casualties werent that bad, I still had around 24 french corps, mostly full-strength). I guess I thought I had a good idea what it took to make France surrender, and that by keeping my army mainly intact I thought I could survive even if I lost Paris so long as I didnt lose more of the towns behind that (Rouen, Dijon, etc). But obviously that wasnt the case. Also it seems like casualties play much too small of a role in determining when a nation surrenders, and that cities are the key (assuming of course that food isnt a problem). That was a surprise to me, because before I started playing the game, I would have thought that a nation whose army was mainly intact could keep fighting even if it lost some cities, whereas a nation whose army was mainly destroyed would probably surrender, even if it still held on to some key cities. Obviously that was a mistaken assumption because in GoA it seems to be the other way around. Which leads me to some questions about morale and exhaustion: 1) does exhaustion only affect morale when you lose an exhaustion level? (ie, casualties dont affect morale continually, but rather in a large step when you lose an exhaustion level). 2) does 1 city point equal 1% of morale (ie, 1 morale point)? 3) when your exhaustion increases a level, the manual says you lose 20% of morale. I assume thats 20% of your initial 100%? 4) when a nation enters the war on your side, does it give a morale boost to your other nations? Does it give a morale decrease to opposing nations? Thanks in advance for any help! Ed
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