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castor troy -> Waiting for 3rd AE patch - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/27/2008 11:32:32 AM)

This is an IJN only AAR!!!

As Miller took over after a month: NO MILLERS in this thread, no reading, no posting!





As there is no sign of AE to come within the next months, Iīve decided to take on another opponent. Bigbaba is the Allied commander, Iīm going once again as the Japanese. This is a Nikmod 9.2 grand campaign.

This was agreed on hrs and game settings:

Game settings:

1 day turns
historical first turn off
allied damage control on
advanced weather effects on
reinforcements variable +-15days
PDU on
sub doctrine off for both sides
sub auto ops off

only one port attack on turn one, no overabuse of the turn one movement bonus (means no landings on turn 7 in Australia or something like that)

max. aircraft on airfield max. 50*airfield size (+about 10%) eg size 4 = max around 220 planes (around means perhaps 223 but not 238!! )

max. aircraft in sea hex = "around 450" (= 5 Essex carriers or the equivalent size 9 airfield). Can be adjusted to around 550 also if you like.

Japanese are not allowed to do strategic bombing in China! Far too easy to destroy all the ressources, HI and OIL. Japanese may bomb everything else of Allied territory.

Allied are not allowed to do strategic bombing of JAPANESE OCCUPIED ALLIED territory. This should prevent the Allied player to do suicide attacks e.g. with carriers to destroy some oil facilities (which Iīve seen enough) and for the reasons mentioned under above point. Allied may bomb everything in Japan, Korea, eastern China, Thailand = everything Japan held at 1941/12/7. If you want to starve Japan, take the bases or sink the ships!

B29 arenīt allowed on naval attack

B29 only on level 6 or 7+ airfields, this should limit them to places that were big enough in real life.

4Es on nav attack min alt 10.000 ft

ASW TF max 6 ships

PT boats max 6 at a base (1x6 PT TF or 2x3 PT TF. Not 6 TFs with single PTs!)

no sub invasions

no mini para drops. As many para drops allowed as wished but they should involve at least 300-1000 men at min.

cutting off units only with "real" combat units, not some 10 assault point base forces

no use of dozens of small barge, MSW, ... TFs to guard ports (engine canīt handle dozens of small TFs in one hex)

no exploit of dozens invasion TFs going at one base, means: if you need 300 ships for an invasion, put them into 5, 6 or 7 TFs but not in 60 TFs with 5 ships each.

most hrs are easily to follow and wonīt come up anyway, most important will probably be the ac stacking limits. If you would like any other hrs included also, Iīm fine with that. My experience is the more hrs, the better.

If you find those hrs biased to one side, Iīm happy to play both the Japanese or the Allied.









castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/27/2008 11:55:55 AM)

First turn is done, took me only some 3 hours, so Iīm pretty sure that many things came short in planning, this will most certainly lead to many problems in the coming weeks/months.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41

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First off, I hate subs... [:@]

Sub attack at 43,49

Japanese Ships
AK Utide Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-36, hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported

big AK will go down...

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Sub attack at 29,54

Japanese Ships
AK Awazisan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.4
MSW W.5
MSW W.6
PC Shonan Maru #6
PC Shonan Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS O19, hits 5, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

another big AK is hit and will be lost also... the attacking sub takes one real hit and 4 near misses but will surely live on...


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Sub attack at 36,54

Japanese Ships
AK Sanuki Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXIV, hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
112 casualties reported

god damn! Seems the half dozen of enemy subs are placed pretty well already... [:@] Also this AK will be lost... [8|]

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And here comes the port strike. As usual, the IJN is only allowed to attack one port on turn one, in return the Allied are not allowed to form new TFs.

Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 52
E13A1 Jake x 44

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 4 destroyed, 19 damaged


Allied Ships
SS Snapper, Bomb hits 1
AK Don Jose, Bomb hits 1
SS Sculpin, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AO Trinity, Bomb hits 1
PT PT-32, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Stingray, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PT PT-41, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Corregidor, Bomb hits 1
AS Canopus, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS S-38, Bomb hits 2, on fire
SS Spearfish, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Sailfish, Bomb hits 1
SS Salmon, Bomb hits 1
PG Isabel, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Pickerel, Bomb hits 1
SS S-41, Bomb hits 1
SS Seal, Bomb hits 1
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 1
SS Seawolf, Bomb hits 1
SS Shark, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP President Madison, Bomb hits 1
AV Langley, Bomb hits 1
SS Perch, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
4 x F1M2 Pete bombing at 2000 feet

this is the second time Iīm doing this in a PBEM. The first time it worked better though. Donīt know if a sub is really damaged if hit by a 60lb GP bomb.

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But here comes the main strike:

Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 53
G3M Nell x 124
G4M1 Betty x 60

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 23 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Anakan, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Corregidor, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Sturgeon, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS S-41, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Peary, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS Sargo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Saury, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Seal, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS S-40, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Shark, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Tarpon, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Capillo, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Bittern, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Salmon, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Perch, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SS Sealion, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS S-38, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP President Madison, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Swordfish, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PT PT-31, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AV Langley, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PG Isabel, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD John D. Ford, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Compagnia Filipinas, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Pickerel, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Sailfish, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Stingray, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
TK Gertrude Kellogg, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SS Permit, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SS Spearfish, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SS Seawolf, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SS S-37, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Pillsbury, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AS Holland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Paz, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

about 35-40% of the attacking bombers carried torps, a good ratio. Iīm not sure if a torp is more severe for a sub than a 800 kg bomb, but flak losses are really light so it doesnīt really matter if the bombers attack at 200ft or 6000ft. 12 subs are confirmed sunk after this turn. I can only hope that bigbaba doesnīt come up with the idea to set sails with all his damaged ships next turn as I will attack again. Bringing out everything next turn would be the best decision for him because even if a lot of the damaged ships would sink, if they stay in port they will ALL be sunk. At least I would send out all my damaged subs.


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KB took position off Hawai and attacks the enemy airfields...

Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 90
D3A Val x 135
B5N Kate x 143

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 8
P-36A Mohawk x 4
P-40B Tomahawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 28 damaged
B5N Kate: 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 7 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 16 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 44 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 24 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 9 destroyed
B-18A Bolo: 9 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed
A-20B Boston: 4 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
143 casualties reported

Airbase hits 70
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 340

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x B5N Kate bombing at 10000 feet

losses within the attackers are light, the airbases on Hawai are completeyl destroyed. Now the question is, what will the USN do? Will they run next turn (I guess so)? But where will they head to? There are only three directions which are East, North or South. I would go South at flank speed. Iīm not willing to split KB so nevertheless that I think best would be to flee South, I will place my carriers 4 hexes East of Pearl with the orders nav attack/port attack. The chances are 3:1 in bigbabas favour that he moves the right direction, if he decides to run.

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Day Air attack on 4th New Chinese Corps, at 49,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 9
Ki-30 Ann x 23

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 4th New Chinese Corps, at 49,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 18

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 6 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 47,48


Allied aircraft
P-26A x 6
P-35A x 7
P-40B Tomahawk x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 9
B-17C Fortress x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Terukawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet

first appearance of the Allied 4Es and an AK is hit with a 500lb GP bomb.

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Day Air attack on TF at 44,60


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Meisho Maru
AK Taiko Maru #3

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Jolo at 38,59


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 2


Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Batan Island at 47,47


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsukari

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 32,57


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Uyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Miri at 31,57


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Ryoka Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Lae at 54,87


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 1


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Tien Lee

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet

a lot of enemy air strikes, but nothing serious so far...


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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 46,49

Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Harukaze
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
CL Natori


Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 4
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 5

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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 46,49

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
CL Kuma
CA Ashigara
CA Maya


Allied ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 3
Port supply hits 5

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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 16
TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


91 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AK Kongo Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Yubari, Shell hits 4

Japanese ground losses:
244 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

only one of the two invasion TFs reached Wake, this will be interesting...

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TF 72 troops unloading over beach at Batan Island, 47,47


Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported

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TF 86 troops unloading over beach at Jolo, 38,59


Japanese ground losses:
176 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Kuching, 28,56, firing at TF 91
TF 91 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 28,56


142 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #7, Shell hits 5
CL Kashii, Shell hits 3

Japanese ground losses:
813 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Coastal Guns at Brunei, 32,57, firing at TF 98
TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Brunei, 32,57


12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported

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TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Jesselton, 35,56


Japanese ground losses:
71 casualties reported

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TF 100 troops unloading over beach at Miri, 31,57


Japanese ground losses:
97 casualties reported

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TF 117 troops unloading over beach at Lae, 54,87


Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kuching

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1114 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38

Defending force 8486 troops, 104 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 170



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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1447 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Defending force 1467 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 62


Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Aparri

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 567 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 18

Defending force 381 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 26 - adjusted assault: 12

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

I have ordered to airlift in the first and the third Yokosuka and guess what! Only the first attacked! Why? Because the third vanished!!!!! [:@] First turn, first LCU that vanishes............. god, how those bugs suck... [8|] At least one parachute unit was enough to take the base against a base force with 0 assault points...

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1387 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 58

Defending force 1887 troops, 39 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Japanese max assault: 88 - adjusted assault: 42

Allied max defense: 14 - adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
248 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
1740 casualties reported
Guns lost 33
Vehicles lost 1

One invasion TF was enough. Guess we were lucky with the dice!


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Ground combat at Batan Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1785 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 85

Defending force 612 troops, 5 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 164 - adjusted assault: 146

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 146 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Batan Island base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1034 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 1

At the end of the day we have sunk a dozen subs and damaged another dozen more in Manila, we torched over 200 aircraft on Hawai and the first invasions were succesful. We will see how it will go on...



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castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/27/2008 1:55:23 PM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41

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Coastal Guns at Kuching, 28,56, firing at TF 49
TF 49 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 28,56

wonder what this is? This TF isnīt at Kuching... [8|]

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TF 86 troops unloading over beach at Jolo, 38,59


Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Kuching, 28,56, firing at TF 91
TF 91 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 28,56


52 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #7, Shell hits 2
PC Shonan Maru #6

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported

This is the TF at Kuching...

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TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Jesselton, 35,56


Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

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ASW attack at 24,64

Japanese Ships
SS I-156

Allied Ships
DD Evertsen
DD Van Nes

off Soerabaja...

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ASW attack at 112,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-20, hits 9, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Ward
DD Schley
DD Chew

Damn! [:(] One of my subs sitting in the retreat route to the South from Hawai is attacked by DD escorts. Glen sightings later on reveal that the enemy warships are fleeing South from Pearl. As mentioned earlier, KB is sitting four hexes East of Pearl, no sense sending them full speed after the fleeing ships. At the end of the day, two enemy TFs are spotted 6 hexes South of Pearl. The TFs are identified as : CACACACACACACDDDD. With six hexes of movement this could come close to the max movement of the old and slow BBs from Pearl. Perhaps this is just a feint though and the BBs are still sitting in Pearl, thereīs still a dark anchor symbol, so still a lot of ships there.

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Naval bombardment of Kuching, at 28,56 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
CA Chokai


Allied ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Jesselton, 35,56


Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

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ASW attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro

Allied Ships
SS Tambor

two enemy subs are sitting at Wake...


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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Ki-21 Sally x 47

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 16 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
406 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 46

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

two sentais of bombers are moved to the Philipines to the airfield at Aparri. More and more IJA bombers will be flown into this area to enable me to move my IJN bombers to other fronts.

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
G3M Nell x 103
G4M1 Betty x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 9 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Peary, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS Spearfish, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Compagnia Filipinas, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Stingray, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD John D. Ford, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Seawolf, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS Skipjack, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Corregidor, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Permit, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Sargo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Snapper, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Pike, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Porpoise, Bomb hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
513 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
16 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet

Most bombers were bombing but those 800kg bombs are killers. Another six SS are confirmed sunk today, bringing the total of SS sunk at Manila to 18. IIRC there are 22 subs at Manila on 7 Dec so only 4 should be left, all four heavily damaged and perhaps a couple are already sunk but not confirmed due to FOW. After this day it is obvious that the attack on Manila was a full success with the submarine force totally destroyed. This should give me at least one and a half years until the Allied will be ready to mount a real sub offensive into the SRA. So when the Allied SS force has grown to remarkable numbers again, this will be the time when my better ASW PC are coming in numbers from the shipyards.

The ships and the port is left burning heavily...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Jolo at 38,59


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Nachisan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 26,44


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 10


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Suwa Maru
AP Zinzan Maru
AP Niitaka Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 32,57


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yahiko Maru, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Jesselton at 35,56


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 2


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Sanuki Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet

this is an AK heavily damaged by a SS earlier, no it is finished off after two 250lb GP bomb hits...

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Day Air attack on TF at 114,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 55
D3A Val x 6
B5N Kate x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AVD McFarland, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Two TFs East of Hawai are spotted. A bigger one with a dozen ships and this single ship TF with AVD McFarland. This is the only strike launched by KB in the am phase...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 25
Blenheim IV x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Higashiyama Maru
AK Aobasan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 2
Martin 139 x 5


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Kaisyo Maru
AP Yamakisan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 2
Martin 139 x 5


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Ryoyo Maru
CL Kashii

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet

the enemy airforce is very active, results arenīt that good so far of course, due to the very low starting experience of the enemy pilots.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 48

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
P-26A x 1
P-40B Tomahawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged


Allied Ships
AK Arctic, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

48 Kates are despatched to attack a single small AK at Pearl... to make it even more severe, no escorts are accompanying my precious high experienced bombers. Due to the massive attacks on the enemy airfields yesterday CAP numbers were very low and the enemy fighters werenīt able to break up our formations or to shoot down one of our bombers.

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Day Air attack on TF at 115,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
D3A Val x 60
B5N Kate x 79

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Antares, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Aroostook, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP U.S. Grant, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Castor, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mauna Loa, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mercury, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Manini, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP St. Mihel, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Hirondelle, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Laida, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Alchiba, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Florence D., Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

and then we launch a big strike on the big TF spotted North of KB... this is the problem when you have to decide if you set your bombers on nav attack, port attack or nav/port attack. Would have been better off setting half of my bombers to port attack and the other half to nav attack. So far bigbaba made the right decisions around Pearl.

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Day Air attack on TF at 115,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
D3A Val x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Aroostook, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mauna Loa, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Manini, on fire, heavy damage
AK Hirondelle, on fire, heavy damage
AP U.S. Grant, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet

another strike on the TF North of KB. A dozen cargo ships are sunk, I would have preferred a port strike though.

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Ground combat at Jolo

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2588 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 83

Defending force 652 troops, 6 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 86 - adjusted assault: 99

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 33 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo base !!!



Allied ground losses:
1259 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Joloīs airfield will be operational tomorrow with a base force able to support 140 ac. Two daitais of long range IJN torp bombers will make Allied shipping quite hard South of the Philipinese now.

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Ground combat at Jesselton

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1085 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 6 - adjusted assault: 3

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Jesselton base !!!



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Ground combat at Lae

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 706 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 22 - adjusted assault: 12

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lae base !!!

Half a dozen construction btn and 25000 supplies are on the way to Lae to build up this airfield from level 1 to level 4 to have long range torp bombers ready within the next couple of weeks when the Allied could think about bringing ships into this area. Iīm not in a hurry to take the Solomons or Southern New Guinea so perhaps bigbaba brings some troops or ac into the area, they would all be destroyed... [sm=00000622.gif]

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Ground combat at Kuching

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 906 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Defending force 8805 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 169

Kuching is the next important base to take. The mixed rgt that was landed should take the base next turn. Then the area South of Singapore should become a no go area for Allied shipping also. Singaporeīs port is empty, all shipping left port today. I didnīt spot a single TF though... [&:]


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Ground combat at Miri

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 445 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 5 - adjusted assault: 2

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Miri base !!!








Lecivius -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/27/2008 6:58:06 PM)

Castor,

I have a couple of questions if I may. 

I saw your rule "PT boats max 6 at a base (1x6 PT TF or 2x3 PT TF. Not 6 TFs with single PTs!) " .  What happens if you hit the button & you get more than 6 (I recieved 8 just last night in a Stock game)?

And I also noticed in the Opponents Wanted section that if you create a game using a Mod, I can play PBEM even if I don't have the Mod loaded?

I plan on asking for a PBEM here very soon, I plan on reading this with great interest [sm=00000945.gif]




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/27/2008 9:56:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lecivius

Castor,

I have a couple of questions if I may. 

I saw your rule "PT boats max 6 at a base (1x6 PT TF or 2x3 PT TF. Not 6 TFs with single PTs!) " .  What happens if you hit the button & you get more than 6 (I recieved 8 just last night in a Stock game)?

And I also noticed in the Opponents Wanted section that if you create a game using a Mod, I can play PBEM even if I don't have the Mod loaded?

I plan on asking for a PBEM here very soon, I plan on reading this with great interest [sm=00000945.gif]




you get most times more than 6 PTs, thatīs correct. So the solution is to either disband them in port or pull out the others to another base.

If you are the Allied player you donīt need to have the mod because all the "mod data" will come with the save file from the Japanese player. The Japanese player has to install the mod.




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/28/2008 9:17:05 AM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41

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Sub attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
SS Tambor, hits 1

great... The Allied achieve the first hit on a major ship but the heavy cruiser will make it, doing a full speed run with two DD escorts to a major naval yard in Japan. Sys damage is at 24, flooding at 18, fires at 5.

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Sub attack at 113,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-23

Allied Ships
AK Mauna Loa, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

we finish an already doomed AK near Hawai...

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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
B5N Kate x 107

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 26 damaged

Allied Ships
AR Rigel, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AR Medusa, Bomb hits 2, on fire
PT PT-29, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DM Tracy, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SS Thresher, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS Cachalot, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AD Dobbin, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DM Pruitt, Bomb hits 2, on fire
ML Oglala, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-20, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DM Breese, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Hulbert, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DM Gamble, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x B5N Kate bombing at 10000 feet

thank god no torps are used, going in at 200ft wouldnīt be good for my pilots... we achieve nearly a 25% hit rate... Bigbaba moved out a couple of subs but there were still two in port, donīt know why.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 19

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 16
Blenheim IV x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Hakozaki Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Kashii

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 32,57


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yahiko Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,55

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 16
G4M1 Betty x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AO Trinity, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Pillsbury, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AS Holland, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Paz, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Joloīs torp bombers are ready to attack the few ships that made it out of Manila. Doubt that there will be more than a couple of ships that will survive the fighting in the Philipines...

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Day Air attack on TF at 113,67

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 47
D3A Val x 29
B5N Kate x 23

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Florence D., Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP St. Mihel, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Laida, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 41
D3A Val x 93

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 4 destroyed, 55 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DM Gamble, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AS Pelias, Bomb hits 1
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DM Montgomery, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Wright, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Hulbert, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PT PT-23, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Thornton, Bomb hits 1, on fire
ML Oglala, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DM Tracy, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DM Preble, Bomb hits 1
SS Dolphin, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PT PT-30, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 41
Port hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet


ouch, dive bombing is very dangerous... the enemy battlewaggons made it out of Hawai but there are still some targets left that make it worth bombing the base...

Pearl Harbour is burning...

[image]local://upfiles/13774/59E9ED87DFA9482386B2163DC0E24C90.jpg[/image]

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Day Air attack on TF, near Miri at 31,57


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 2
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Koki Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 40,55

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 18
G4M1 Betty x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
MSW Whippoorwill
DD Pope, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Asheville
TK Mindanao
PG Tulsa, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 41,55

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AO Trinity, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Pillsbury, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Sub attack near Batavia at 19,59

Japanese Ships
SS I-121, hits 5

Allied Ships
AP Kanimba, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Encounter
DD Isis
MSW Toowoomba
MSW Ballarat
MSW Bendigo

I-121 was bringing mines to Batavia and probably sinks a medium sized AP. In return the sub takes 5 near misses and needs a month in the repair yards...

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Ground combat at Brunei

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1416 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 45

Defending force 844 troops, 6 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 47 - adjusted assault: 20

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Brunei base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1051 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

we take Brunei, the defenders surrendered. The 300 oil center is undamaged. When we took the empty Miri just 60 miles to the West, the oil center was 40% damaged... [8|]

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Ground combat at Kuching

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 8855 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 171

Defending force 1590 troops, 7 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Japanese max assault: 358 - adjusted assault: 74

Allied max defense: 24 - adjusted defense: 15

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuching base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
789 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

pretty bad adjusted av, good that weīve brought a strong unit. A base force will unload tomorrow and then Ms. Betty and Ms. Nell will make shipping dangerous around Java and South of Singapore.







castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/28/2008 10:21:34 AM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/10/41

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ASW attack near Songkhia at 24,43

Japanese Ships
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
DD Arashio

Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 1

Have unloaded our major invasion force for Malaya at the port 1 at Songkhia. One enemy sub has been sitting in port and one in the hex East to it since yesterday. The enemy troops in Malaya are all running towards Singapore, it seems I will get all of Malaya without a fight and the enemy is intending to hold only Singers. I had planned to land another two divs somewhere further South but this doesnīt seem to be necessary if the Allied forces abandon all bases. Singapore will become a big prison camp, I will starve them to death. Without having to do an invasion at an enemy base and without fighting the way South, my divs will be in good shape for other tasks.

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ASW attack at 21,58

Japanese Ships
SS I-121

ghost ASW attack...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 52
C5M Babs x 1
Ki-21 Sally x 133

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
PG Isabel, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS Skipjack, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
SS Swordfish, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
SS Pickerel, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD John D. Ford, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-34, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP President Madison, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Corregidor, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SS Snapper, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-33, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Compagnia Filipinas, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
337 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1

Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet

The Betties and Nells have been replaced by IJA medium bombers which will have the duty to kill the rest of the Allied shipping at Manila and to destroy the airfield at Clark and Manila. Same as in Malaya, it seems that the Allied LCUs are also doing a full retreat in the Philipines. I expect them to hold at Clark and Manila.

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Day Air attack on Jolo , at 38,59

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-40E Warhawk attacking at 100 feet

Doing strafing attacks with fighters? The P-40 is the most valuable fighter for the Allied for the next 10 months, so I wouldnīt risk them doing strafing attacks.

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Day Air attack on Jolo , at 38,59


Allied aircraft
P-35A x 18
P-40B Tomahawk x 19
B-17C Fortress x 12


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x P-35A strafing at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 40,56

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 12
G4M1 Betty x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AS Holland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AO Trinity, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

no escape from the Philipine sea...


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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 53
D3A Val x 84
B5N Kate x 128

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-40B Tomahawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 3 destroyed, 40 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
SS Cachalot, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DM Sicard, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DM Breese, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DM Ramsay, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Hulbert, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AO Ramapo, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AV Wright, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DM Preble, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AR Medusa, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-22, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DM Montgomery, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AD Dobbin, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-21, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AD Whitney, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC Reliance, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Thresher, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DM Gamble, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AE Pyro, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DM Pruitt, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Thornton, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Grebe, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AO Neosho, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Sacramento, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AR Vestal, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AR Rigel, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DM Tracy, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AS Pelias, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Vireo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
ML Oglala, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tern, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Narwhal, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Dolphin, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-24, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1

Port hits 22
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
23 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet

another 5 SS heavily hit at Pearl. In a week, there wonīt be much left of the Allied submarine force... [8D]

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ASW attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Ch 24
PC Ch 29
PC Ch 30

Allied Ships
SS Tambor, hits 1

a near miss. SS Tambor and Triton both sitting at Wake...

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TF 118 troops unloading over beach at Tarawa, 85,91


Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Tarawa

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 732 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 48 - adjusted assault: 13

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tarawa base !!!

SNLF mopping up the area around Tarawa...


One question remains: Where is Force Z?




[image]local://upfiles/13774/F40C07EC4BF24CD3B99134C8F8EB82AC.jpg[/image]




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/28/2008 10:45:35 AM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/11/41

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ASW attack near Songkhia at 24,43

Japanese Ships
DD Murasame
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare
DD Mikazuki

Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 2

two near misses...

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Sub attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
AK Yasukawa Maru
PC Showa Maru #5
PC Showa Maru #3
PC Nichi Maru #1
PC Gamitsu Maru #1
PG Saiko Maru
PG Edo Maru
MSW Takasago Maru
MSW Ataka Maru

Allied Ships
SS Triton

torps miss and all attempts to locate the sub fail...

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Day Air attack on Jolo , at 38,59


Allied aircraft
P-35A x 18
B-17C Fortress x 6


Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-17C Fortress: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x P-35A strafing at 100 feet
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 5000 feet

no damage at Jolo...

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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
B5N Kate x 130

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-40B Tomahawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 29 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AO Ramapo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AD Dobbin, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DM Sicard, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AS Pelias, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
ML Oglala, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AE Pyro, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Vireo, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Thresher, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DM Ramsay, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DM Gamble, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Rail, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Sacramento, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AR Rigel, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-26, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Tiger, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Port hits 9
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
22 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

last attack on Pearl Harbour, KB will now leave the area...

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Day Air attack on TF at 31,54

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Scout

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

the DDs that were stationed at Hong Kong made it all the way to the area North of Borneo... Couple of enemy TFs in range of my torp bombers but no attacks...

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Day Air attack on TF at 39,62

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AS Canopus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 39,60

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 35

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Pope, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

the bombers at Jolo launch...

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Day Air attack on Jolo , at 38,59


Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 16


No Allied losses

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ASW attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Ch 24
PC Ch 29
PC Ch 30

Allied Ships
SS Triton

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Sub attack at 22,48 [X(]

Japanese Ships
SS I-155

Allied Ships
DD Tenedos, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Jupiter
DD Stronghold
DD Express
DD Electra
DD Vendetta
DD Vampire
BC Repulse [X(][X(][X(]

I-155 tangles around with the escorts after hitting a Brit destroyer. Before being driven off by the escorts, I-155īs captain identifies BC Repulse being in this TF so probably weīre speaking of Force Z here. This is NW of Singapore and with 90+ long range torp bombers in range and set to nav attack, Force Z should now already be destroyed as this TF was spotted by search planes also (without spotting the BBs though). None of my bombers from Borneo or Indochina launched though. Have moved in 54 long range torp bombers more and tomorrow we will have more than 140 Betties/Nells at three different bases set to nav attack 15 hexes at 10.000ft. No matter if the enemy goes North or South it will always stay in range of at least 90 bombers. We have also some 70 aircraft (recons, patrols and bombers) searching for Force Z. My bomber bases are well supplied, not overstacked and two of them are within range of air HQs, so tomorrow should be interesting...


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ASW attack near Wake Island at 82,63

Japanese Ships
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Ch 24
PC Ch 29
PC Ch 30

Allied Ships
SS Triton

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ASW attack at 25,43

Japanese Ships
APD APD-37
APD APD-36
APD APD-35
APD APD-34
APD APD-33
APD APD-32

Allied Ships
SS KXI, hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Those APDs are the best ASW weapons the IJN can field for the next 18 months. First time this ASW TF runs over a sub and the second class sub is finished off by APD-36, sinking the bastard with two real hits and 5 near misses. After this day we have 25 subs confirmed sunk and I hope to see another two sinking at Pearl. I doubt that the Allied have more than 15 operational subs at the moment.

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TF 118 troops unloading over beach at Makin, 85,89


Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Makin

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 653 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 7

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Makin base !!!


IJN Betty waiting for the order to launch against Force Z:



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castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 8:58:06 AM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/12/41

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Sub attack at 22,45

Japanese Ships
SS I-155

Allied Ships
DD Tenedos, on fire, heavy damage

six torps miss the heavily damaged destroyer...

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ASW attack near Songkhia at 24,43

Japanese Ships
APD APD-37
APD APD-36
APD APD-35
APD APD-34
APD APD-33
APD APD-32

Allied Ships
SS KXVII

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TF 115 troops unloading over beach at Toboali, 22,57


Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported

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ASW attack at 24,58

Japanese Ships
SS I-162

Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Scout
DD Thracian

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
C5M Babs x 2
Ki-21 Sally x 141

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
AP President Madison, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Corregidor, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Compagnia Filipinas, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PG Isabel, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-35, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
473 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet

donīt need much more port attacks...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 15
Blenheim IV x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Jolo at 38,59


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Matue Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 35,61


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 56,88


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 10


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Shinyo Maru #5, Bomb hits 1
AK Mito Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet

Hudsons have been moved to PM... Will take some time until Lae will have a level 3-4 airfield, until then the Allied will have air superiority in this area...

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,58

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45
G3M Nell x 28
G4M1 Betty x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Thanet, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Thracian, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Scout

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

We have spotted Force Z but 52 bombers from Kuching attack the third class destroyers that were fleeing from Hong Kong...

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And here comes the am attack against Force Z:

Day Air attack on TF at 22,40

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BC Repulse
DD Jupiter
CL Mauritius

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Only one hit, mainly because only 10 bombers attacked POW or Repulse, the other dozen attacked the DD and Mauritius. Must have been a well placed torp hit though as POW was separated from the TF after this strike!

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Day Air attack on TF at 22,42

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Tenedos, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

those Kates would have also been in torp range of Force Z...


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Day Air attack on TF at 39,65

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
TK Mindanao
TK Gertrude Kellogg, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Quail, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

South Philipine Sea... looks like a couple of ships will make it out of the Philipines...


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Day Air attack on TF at 39,64

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AS Canopus, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,44


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Blenheim IV x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Akita Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 35,61


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Nankai Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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PM phase:

Day Air attack on TF at 24,58

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 37
G3M Nell x 19
G4M1 Betty x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Scout, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Thracian, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Kuchingīs bombers again attack the DDs instead of Force Z...

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Day Air attack on TF at 22,40

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 3
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
BC Repulse

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,40

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 27
G4M1 Betty x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
BC Repulse, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
CL Mauritius

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

As you can see, POW isnīt part of this TF anymore and nearly all torp bombers concentrate on the fast battlecruiser. The first torp hit wasnīt severe and many torps missed but after the second hit, Repulse was a sitting duck and easily finished off by the rest of the attackers. The battlecruiser is reported sunk and shows up in the sunken ship list as the first major Allied loss of the war.

BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!


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Force Z under heavy attack. The dire condition of the Prince of Wales is clearly evident, she can be seen steaming in circles. Repulse on the right of the picture is shown in a pall of smoke.

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Day Air attack on TF at 39,65

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Ethel Edwards

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,40

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage [&o]

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

A small strike decides to launch against the POW that was already in a bad state after the one hit from the morning strike. Another hit and the BB is heavily damaged probably not able to move more than 3 or 4 hexes next turn. If weather allows our bombers to launch, then I guess we will finish off this important target tomorrow! [8D]

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Day Air attack on TF at 39,65

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
TK Gertrude Kellogg, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Quail, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet


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Ground combat at Alor Star

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23164 troops, 277 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 1147

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 538 - adjusted assault: 492

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 492 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Alor Star base !!!

as you can see, my troops are marching South and take the first abandoned Allied base in Malaya.


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Ground combat at Tavoy

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1574 troops, 0 guns, 104 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 60 - adjusted assault: 62

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 62 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tavoy base !!!

same further North, all Allied LCUs seem to flee... Will make it an easy conquest of the most important goals...







castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 9:01:25 AM)

British BC Repulse was sunk by combined strikes of IJN Betty and Nell bombers! BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!


H. M. S. R E P U L S E



RENOWN-Class battlecruiser ordered in January 1915 and intended to be built by Palmer's but was transferred to John Brown of Clydebank as a longer Slipway was required,. The ship was laid down on 25th January 1915 on the same day as her sister ship RENOWN. Launched on 8 January 1916 she was the 10th RN ship to carry the name introduced for a 50 gun ship in 1595 and last been used in 1892 for a battleship 1916 sold in 1911. Build was completed on 18th August 1916



B a t t l e H o n o u r s



CADIZ 1596 - LA ROCHELLE 1627 - MARTINIQUE 1762 - THE SAINTES 1762 - CALDERS ACTION 1805 - DARDENELLES 1807 - WALCHEREN 1809 - NORWAY 1940 - ATLANTIC 1940 - BISMARCK Action 1941



H e r a l d i c D a t a

Badge: On a Field Blue an eagle alighting on a rook, facing dexter

wings half raised.



M o t t o

Qui Tangit Frangatur: ' Who touches me is broken'.



S u m m a r y o f P r e – W a r S e r v i c e



1 9 1 6



July Contractors trials and commissioned for Trials,

18th Build completion and commenced Acceptance Trials

(Note: Achieved speed of 3 1 knots on speed trials.

Serious weaknesses found in forward Hull structure and smoke from forward

funnel obscured visual observation for fire control equipment.)



September Trials and work-up in continuation.

21st Joined 1st Battle Squadron for duty as Flagship.



October Taken in hand for strengthening of structure.

to (Note: Pillars were fitted and forward funnel height increased by six feet.

December



1 9 1 7



January Resumed Fleet service in Home waters,

to Selected for trials using a Flying Platform for launch of aircraft

August



September Taken in hand for installation of a Flying Platform on B Turret.



October Carried out trials using Sopwith Pup aircraft.



November On completion resumed Squadron duties in Home waters.

15th Deployed in support of operation by Light Cruisers to intercept German

minesweeping off Heligoland.

(Note: This attempt to entice deployment of German major warships was not

successful. but during an engagement with cruiser Konigsberg enemy ship

was hit by gunfire.)



December Home waters deployment in Grand Fleet based at Scapa Flow.



1 9 1 8



January Home waters Squadron duties in continuation.

to

May



June Took part in Fleet operation in Kattegat to attempt interference by German warships.

(Note: This was unsuccessful)



July Grand Fleet deployment in continuation.

to October



November

21st Present at surrender of German High Seas Fleet which were met on passage in North

Sea to Scapa Flow for formal ceremonial.

(Note: These ships were later scuttled and many sank in Scapa Flow.)



December Nominated for future service after refit.



1 9 1 9



Taken in hand for refit by HM Dockyard, Portsmouth.

(Note: Work done included addition of 9” armour plate and extension of existing

anti-torpedo bulges.



1 9 2 0 t o 1 9 2 1



On completion of refit and trials resumed service in Atlantic Fleet.

Deployed for Fleet exercises and visits in Home Waters and Mediterranean.

Nominated for attendance at Brazilian centenary celebration



1 9 2 2



Deployed with Atlantic Fleet and attended ceremonials at Rio de Janeiro

with HM Battlecruiser HOOD.

Nominated for service with five Light Cruisers to carry out World Cruise



1 9 2 3



January Atlantic Fleet service in continuation

to Prepared for World Cruise to British Empire ports.

October



November

27th Joined HMS HOOD, HM Cruisers DELHI, DANAE, DAUNTLESS, DRAGON

and DUNEDIN and took passage for Freetown



December Called at Freetown

21st Visited Capetown

Sailed with same ships to Zanzibar.



1 9 2 4



January

1st Arrived at Zanzibar

17th Took passage to Fremantle.



February

24th At Fremantle



March Visited Albany, Adelaide and Melbourne



April Visited Hobart, Tasmania

9th Arrived at Sydney

20th Sailed for Wellington, New Zealand.



May

7th Sailed from Wellington for visits to Pacific Islands

16th Commenced calls in Pacific.

(Note: These included Suva, Samara, Fiji, Apia, W Samoa.)



June Passage to Victoria, British Colombia

6th Arrived at Victoria



July

6th Visited Vancouver

(Note: The five cruisers detached and took passage to visit ports in South America.



August Visited ports in USA with HMS HOOD.



September Took passage to Portsmouth via Panama Canal.)

29th Arrived at Portsmouth

(Note: During cruise ship steamed over 30,000 miles)



October Resumed Atlantic Fleet duties.

to Deployed at Portsmouth

December Nominated for special duties to take Prince of Wales to visit ports in South Africa

and South America.



1 9 2 5



Carried special duties for Royal Visits to Portugal, South Africa and east coast of

South America with Prince of Wales. Resumed Atlantic Fleet duties on return after

seven months detached service.

Nominated for reduction of complement.



1 9 2 6 t o 1 9 3 2



Deployed with 60% of full complement in Atlantic Fleet including visits and Fleet exercises

(Note: These included annual exercises in Atlantic and Mediterranean with ships of

the Mediterranean Fleet based in Atlantic and Mediterranean based at Gibraltar

During 1927 in a flying accidents two pilots from the ship were killed.

This period included three Full Commissions.

Nominated for major refit.



1 9 3 3 to 1 9 3 5



Taken in hand for refit.

The work carried out included:

Installation of a catapult for launch of aircraft together with construction of

a Hangar to accommodate four seaplanes and provide suitable repair and

maintenance facilities. Stowage of petrol was also needed.



1 9 3 6



On completion of refit carried out harbour and sea trials after re-commissioning for

service in Mediterranean Fleet based in Malta

Took part in Fleet exercise and visits programmes.



1 9 3 7



January Mediterranean Fleet deployment in continuation

to

May



June During Fleet programme visited Spanish waters.

to During August was involved in negotiating the release of a British mercantile stopped by

December Spanish Cruiser MIGUEL CERVANTES.



1 9 3 8



January Home Fleet deployment in continuation including Fleet Exercises and Visits Programme

to Nominated for refit

September



October Under refit

to (Note: AA armament was improved to limited extent without replacement of most 4”

December AA mountings which were of original design used during build.

No work was done on machinery.



1 9 3 9



January Under refit

to (Note: Selected for conversion to suit use for taking HM King George VI and HM Queen

February Elizabeth to Canada with the Royal Family. to Canada with the Royal Family.

This was later changed because of the increased possibility of war with Germany as

all major warships were to remain in Home waters.)



March Refit work completed

Carried out sea trials



April Deployed as escort for rms EMPRESS OF AUSTRALIA during initial stage of passage



May Completed work-up with Home Fleet ships



June Home Fleet deployment in continuation.



July Completed harbour and sea trials

to Carried out Shakedown and work-up prior to resuming service in Home Fleet

August Rejoined Home Fleet for service in 1st Battle Squadron with HM Battlecruisers RENOWN

and HOOD.





D e t a i l s o f W a r S e r v i c e



September Part of 1st Battlecruiser Squadron, Home Fleet

3rd Deployed with Squadron for convoy defence and interception in NW Approaches for

and North Sea for the interception of commerce raiders and mercantiles attempting to

return to German ports



October Atlantic convoy defence to continuation.

Diverted to carry out unsuccessful search off Norway for German battleship

GNEISENAU and cruiser KOLN.

Sustained damage in heavy weather and returned to Scapa Flow,



November

3rd Under repair to forward breakwater.

21st Deployed to provide cover for passage of HX Convoy in Atlantic.

23rd Despatched from Halifax with HM Aircraft Carrier FURIOUS to join search for

German battleships SCHARNHORST and GNEISENAU after sinking have HM Armed

Merchant Cruiser RAWALPINDI in defence of Atlantic convoy.

Sustained structural damage and returned to Halifax.



December On completion of repair resumed Atlantic convoy defence deployment.

Escorted military convoy TC1 to UK with HM Battleship RESOLUTION, HMS

FURIOUS and HM Cruiser EMERALD.

Detached from TC1 and resumed Atlantic covering duties with HM Battleship BARHAM.

28th Under attack by U30 during which HMS BARHAM was hit by torpedoes and seriously

damaged.



1 9 4 0



January Atlantic deployment in continuation.

7th Took part in North Sea search with HM Battleships RODNEY and VALIANT to intercept

warships reported on passage to attack shipping in North Atlantic.



February Atlantic convoy defence in continuation.

to March



April Deployed with HM Battleships RODNEY, VALIANT and HM Battlecruiser RENOWN

screened by ten destroyers to provide cover for passage of military convoys to Stavanger,

Bergen and Trondheim.

(Operation R4 – Planned landings in Norway before German invasion. See Naval Staff

History.)

8th Despatched with HM Cruiser PENELOPE screened by HM Destroyers BEDOUIN,

ESKIMO, PUNJABI and KIMBERLEY to assist HM Destroyer GLOWWORM

under attack by German warships in North Sea off Norway.

(Note: The German ships included cruiser HIPPER and two destroyers which were

providing support for the German invasion of Norway.

For details of the disastrous campaign in defence of Norway see Naval Staff

History (Norway), published HMSO in 2000, CARRIER GLORIOUS by

J Winton, NARVIK by D MacIntyre, THE DOOMED EXPEDITION by

J Adams and ENGAGE THE ENEMY MORE CLOSELY by C Barnett).

9th Carried out patrol off Vest Fjord with HMS RENOWN and HMS PENELOPE

screened by HM Destroyers BEDOUIN, ESKIMO, PUNJABI and KIMBERLEY.

10th Covered destroyers of 2nd Flotilla during attacks on shipping in Narvik Fjord by

patrol off Vest Fjord to intercept any interference by German warships.

14th Deployed with HMS VALIANT to provide cover for passage of military convoy

NP1 during passage in North Sea.

(Note: Convoy NP1 was bringing allied troops for landings in Norway.

See above references.)

17th Deployed with HMS RENOWN as escort for HM Cruiser SUFFOLK during

passage to Scapa Flow.

(Note: HMS SUFFOLK had sustained serious damage by air attacks during

bombardment of airfield at Stavanger.)

18th Retained at Scapa Flow for support of military operations and naval operations

off Norway if required.

(Note: Future deployments were dependant on availability of air cover.)



May Deployed at Scapa Flow.



June Nominated with HMS RENOWN for cover of evacuation convoys during passage

from Norway

(Operation ALPHABET)

5th Diverted to carry out search in NW Approaches with HMS RENOWN, HM Cruiser

NEWCASTLE and destroyer screen following sighting of German vessels on

passage to make landings in Iceland.

7th After fruitless search resumed covering duty.



July Deployed for interception patrol in Atlantic.

Carried out search for German GNEISENAU with HMS RENOWN but failed to

make any contact.



August Deployed at Scapa Flow.



September Sailed from Scapa Flow to carry out planned attack on Norwegian coast convoys off

Stavanger with HM Battlecruiser HOOD, HM Cruisers NORFOLK and BERWICK.

Planned operation cancelled during passage and returned to Scapa Flow.



October Atlantic interception patrol and convoy defence continued,



November

7th Deployed in Bay of Biscay with HMS HOOD and HMS RENOWN to intercept

German cruiser ADMIRAL SCHEER after sinking of HM Armed Merchant Cruiser

JERVIS BAY in defence of Atlantic convoy.



December Deployed in SW Approaches for interception patrol.

28th Provided cover for convoys in SW Approaches with HM Cruiser NIGERIA following

attacks by ADMIRAL SCHEER on Convoy WS5A.

See Naval Staff History and ENGAGE THE ENEMY MORE CLOSELY.



1 9 4 1



January Deployed in North Atlantic for interception patrol and convoy defence.

to March.



April

20th Detached for Ocean Escort of military convoy during Atlantic passage.

(Operation TIGER - See THE BATTLE FOR THE MEDITERRANEAN by D Macintyre

and Naval Staff History.)

26th Joined military convoy WS8A with HM Cruiser NAIAD in Clyde as escort to Gibraltar

with Home Fleet destroyers including HMS HARVESTER, HMS HAVELOCK and HMS

HESPERUS.

(Note: This convoy was destined for Middle East but included five ships taking stores and

personnel to Malta and Alexandria as TIGER Convoy. See above references)



May

2nd Detached from WS8A with five TIGER Convoy ships and took passage to Gibraltar.

After arrival resumed Home Fleet duties and returned to Home waters.

23rd Deployed with HM Battleship KING GEORGE V. HM Aircraft Carrier

VICTORIOUS, Home Fleet cruisers and destroyer screen to intercept German

Battleship BISMARCK and cruiser PRINZ EUGEN after sighting report by

HMS SUFFOLK..

25th Detached to refuel in Newfoundland after sinking of HMS HOOD.

For details of the search and sinking of HMS HOOD and HMS BISMARCK

(see SINK THE BISMARCK by L Kennedy, BATTLESHIP BISMARCK

by Mullenheim Rechberg and Naval Staff History.)

June Atlantic deployment based at Halifax for interception and convoy defence.



July Return passage to UK.

(Note: Ship had been nominated for service in Indian Ocean after refit.

August Under refit by HM Dockyard, Rosyth.

(Note: Refit work included installation of Radar Type 284 for main armament

Fire-control.)

Prepared for foreign service.

On completion resumed operational duties

31st Joined military convoy WS11 with H M Destroyers ENCOUNTER and NESTOR, H M

Indian Sloop SUTLEJ, HM Cutters SENNEN and TOTLAND as Ocean Escort during

Atlantic passage to Freetown.



September

4th Detached from WS11 when convoy divided into FAST and SLOW Sections and provided

Ocean Escort for WS11 (Fast) to Freetown with HMS ENCOUNTER and HMS NESTOR.

13th At Freetown with WS11 ships.

18th Sailed from Freetown with reformed WS11 as one convoy for Ocean Escort to Durban

(Note: HM Armed Merchant Cruiser DERBYSHIRE was also part of escort to Capetown



October

3rd Detached from WS11 on arrival at Durban

8th Rejoined WS11 ships as Escort from Durban in Indian Ocean..

13th Detached from WS11 on relief by HM Cruiser CERES and returned to Durban



November Deployed at Durban for convoy defence in Indian Ocean.

3rd Nominated for transfer to Force Z for duty based at Singapore.

8th Joined military convoy WS12 off Durban for Ocean Escort during passage in Indian, Ocean.

13th Detached from WS12 in position 5.1OS 34E on relief by HM Battleship REVENGE and

took passage to Colombo to join Force Z ships.

(Note: Radar Type 286 P to provide warning of land and limited air cover

was fitted by ship’s staff during passage and available for use before

arrival in Ceylon. The equipment was the only warning radar on board

and was an RAF equipment modified for shipboard use.

For details of the development and use of radar in the RN see RADAR

AT SEA by D Howse)

28th Joined by HM Battleship PRINCE OF WALES at Colombo.

29th Took passage as Force Z to Singapore with H M Destroyers ENCOUNTER, EXPRESS,

ELECTRA and JUPITER.



December

2nd Arrived at Singapore with Force Z

(Note: For details of the background to the creation of Force Z see WAR WITH JAPAN

(HMSO

Took passage to Ceylon

5th Detached from Force Z and took passage to visit Port Darwin, Australia escorted by HM

Destroyers VAMPIRE (RAN) and TENEDOS.

6th Recalled to rejoin Force Z after aircraft report of sighting Japanese transports in Gulf of Siam

with cruiser escort.

8th Sailed from Singapore with HMS PRINCE OF WALES, escorted by HM Destroyers

EXPRESS, ELECTRA, TENEDOS and VAMPIRE (RAN) to intercept Japanese invasion

craft off east coast of Malaya. See above reference.

(Note: No aircraft cover for passage was available from shore and no aircraft carrier had

been available to join Force Z before deployment.)

10th Under heavy and sustained attacks by high level and torpedo bomber aircraft.

Initially hit by two bombs that caused extensive damage and fires.

Further multiple attacks by torpedo aircraft resulted in four hits that proved fatal and ship

sank within two minutes.

796 of ship’s company were rescued by HMS ELECTRA and HMAS VAMPIRE from a

total complement of 1,309. (Casualty List - note on casualties)

(For full details see above reference and THE HUNTING OF FORCE Z by R Hough..)



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Ambassador -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 10:56:08 AM)

Nice start, but I'm a bit confused.  I thought NikMod was with enhanced AA, still those losses don't appear to be higher than losses in stock games.[&:]




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 11:24:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

Nice start, but I'm a bit confused.  I thought NikMod was with enhanced AA, still those losses don't appear to be higher than losses in stock games.[&:]



Flak isnīt a real killer yet, but itīs very intense already. If you look at my Pearl Harbour Strikes after the 7 Dec you will see that 40-50% of the bombers coming in low are damaged. In half a year when the enemy gets the first ships to upgrade the AA suit then a major TF will have some decent AA defense. Not to talk about a base where a couple of US baseforces are.

edit: this is the last attack on Pearl with Vals:

Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 53
D3A Val x 84
B5N Kate x 128

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-40B Tomahawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 3 destroyed, 40 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged



even though only 3 are shot down immediately, another 4 were lost on the way home and nearly 50% were damaged. The Kates werenīt hit as hard because they were bombing from 15.000ft. Would I have had ordered them to bomb from 6000ft then some 60 would have been damaged.




Ambassador -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 12:25:03 PM)

With Ops losses, that's a bit higher indeed. And it's also true all the battlewagons had already left, so this reduces the flak too.  I'll watch your AAR carefully for some time then.

I was also wondering... where did you send your mini-flattops ?    Apart from a few B5N who attacked some DD instead of Force Z (and they must be the land-based Kates, since they're escorted by Oscars), I have not seen any Kate attack in those six days, except from KB.




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 12:56:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

With Ops losses, that's a bit higher indeed. And it's also true all the battlewagons had already left, so this reduces the flak too.  I'll watch your AAR carefully for some time then.

I was also wondering... where did you send your mini-flattops ?    Apart from a few B5N who attacked some DD instead of Force Z (and they must be the land-based Kates, since they're escorted by Oscars), I have not seen any Kate attack in those six days, except from KB.



One CVL (Ryuho with 48 ac) is sitting in Truk, waiting to get the Zeroes upgraded and another (smaller one with 30 ac) is sitting with CVE Hosho in Osaka, also waiting for the Zeroes to upgrade. Iīm not that a fan of using a carrier TF with some 70 ac and with Force Z destroyed now, there is no need anyway. I usually donīt use the baby carriers in the SRA because with Jolo and Kuching you have Betties ruling the whole SRA anyway. With most of the ships in Manila destroyed, it makes it even less important to have one or two CVLs South of the Philipines.

With the stacking limit for sea based hexes I can never use all of my carriers in a hex anyway and wonīt have enough carriers to have two "KBs". So I will use two CVLs to replace one of my fleet carriers when the fleet carrier is in need of repairs/upgrades/pilot training. So if nothing real bad will happen I should be able to have a 450 ac KB ready for a fight all the time. Iīm not a fan of splitting KB anyway so I will keep the 450 ac TF together.

Biggest problem at the moment is the lack of aircraft. Pools for Zeroes and Oscars are empty and production is low. Will take some time to get my factories running and even longer to upgrade all those Claudes and Nates. At the moment I donīt seem to need my fighters anyway, as bigbaba is doing a Sir Robin like Iīve never seen it before. Serves me well, I always thought a Sir Robin defense isnīt good anyway, but there are different oppinions out there. I will advance as long as I wonīt be stopped somewhere. And if I never have to fight seriously, then it will be hard to really stop me before mid 43.




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 1:31:41 PM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/13/41

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ASW attack near Songkhia at 24,43

Japanese Ships
APD APD-37
APD APD-36
APD APD-35
APD APD-34
APD APD-33
APD APD-32

Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 13, on fire

subs doesnīt show up as heavily damaged but in fact is confirmed sunk. Second sub that my APD-ASW TF sunk in the last days... another one bites the dust [8D]

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Sub attack at 22,44

Japanese Ships
SS I-154, hits 10, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
MSW Toowoomba
MSW Maryborough
MSW Goulburn
MSW Burnie
MSW Bendigo
MSW Ballarat
DD Isis
DD Encounter

suicide to attack British escorts, even the MSWs are deadly. Torps miss and the sub is 97% surely sunk... My second sub already, for no gain...

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Day Air attack on TF at 30,46


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Sado Maru
AP Higashiyama Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,39

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Tenedos, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

but my airforce strikes back..

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Day Air attack on TF, near Johore Bahru at 22,49

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Durban
CL Dragon, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

two British CL are around Singers, they are attacked by Nells from Kuching. Again today, we see a couple of Betty/Nell strikes fail to locate the targets though. 9 Nells are enough to sink the CL. BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!

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Day Air attack on TF, near Johore Bahru at 22,49

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
G3M Nell x 29
G4M1 Betty x 21

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged


Allied Ships
CL Durban, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CL Dragon, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

another strike out of Indochina attacks the two CL TF and also CL Durban was sunk! BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!

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Day Air attack on TF, near Johore Bahru at 22,49

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 4

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Dragon, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

The CLs are already submerged...

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Day Air attack on TF at 22,38

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 11 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage [&o]

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

as expected yesterday, the pride of the RN in South East Asia wasnīt able to move more than 3 hexes and the ship is spotted burning just a couple of hexes of the Malayan coast. Two daitais launch their available torp bombers and after the first couple of bomber waves dropped their torps the BB was hit hard. BB POW is confirmed sunk, Force Z is destroyed. BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!

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Day Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 10
Blenheim IV x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,43

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 3
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
MSW Goulburn

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,43

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Encounter
AP Manoora

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 40,55

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Anakan, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Ground combat at Toboali

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 702 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 18 - adjusted assault: 4

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Toboali base !!!

empty Toboali was captured by a SNLF brought in by a fast transport TF consisting of some CLs and DDs. Wanted to take this base early as it produces some 900 supply/resources a day. 8 resources were destroyed.






castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 1:38:15 PM)

BB Prince of Wales sunk! BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!

HMS Prince of Wales (Battleship, 1941-1941)
HMS Prince of Wales, a 35,000-ton King George V class battleship built Birkenhead, England, was completed in March 1941. In late May, while still not fully operational, she was sent into action with the German battleship Bismarck and received significant damage from heavy gunfire. Following repairs, Prince of Wales carried Prime Minister Winston Churchill across the Atlantic to Newfoundland. There, on 9-12 August, Churchill joined U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt for the Atlantic Charter conference, the first meeting between the two English-speaking leaders of what was emerging as the "Grand Alliance" against the Axis powers.

Following her return to British waters, Prince of Wales went to the Mediterranean, where she successfully engaged Italian planes off Malta in late September. Sent to the Far East with the battlecruiser HMS Repulse to counter the swiftly developing Japanese threat in the region, she arrived on 2 December 1941. On 8 December, the day of the Pearl Harbor Raid on the other side of the International Date Line, the Japanese landed in northern Malaya. Prince of Wales, Repulse and four destroyers were sent to attack the invasion force. After finding no targets, the British ships were returning to Singapore when, late in the morning of 10 December, they were attacked by a strong force of Japanese high-level bombers and torpedo planes. With no friendly planes to protect them, both heavy ships were hit several times. Repulse sank at about 1230. Prince of Wales capsized and followed her to the bottom less than an hour later. The first capital ships to be sunk by air attack while operating on the high seas, their loss further shocked a naval world already stunned by the events at Pearl Harbor only a few days earlier.





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Ambassador -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 3:00:17 PM)

Ok for the CVLs.

Congrats for the PoW.  Although 22,38, that's not far in the north of Songkhia.  He should have fled south or west full flank, instead of plain north at cruise speed...




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 8:46:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

Ok for the CVLs.

Congrats for the PoW.  Although 22,38, that's not far in the north of Songkhia.  He should have fled south or west full flank, instead of plain north at cruise speed...



yup, thatīs what Iīve asked bigbaba too. I guess he went South the second and third turn but then decided to turn around and go North. [&:] He told me that he was surprised that I already had my bombers so near to the front (they are stationed in Indochina, Malaya and Borneo) so early so this has to be seen as a beginners fault.

I donīt know if he has no PBEM experience at all, but this definetely was a beginners fault. Even the AI has torp bombers in Indochina on turn one...




Ambassador -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 9:58:04 PM)

That's part of the reasons I've started following your AAR : checking the beginner's (at WitP PBEM) errors to avoid.[:D]

However, his BBs escaped unscathed from PH.  He did not panick and sent them right through the cloud of subs that litter the area south of PH, instead of an east or north route (where you were more susceptible of lying in ambush).  He deprived you of some 1500-1600 VPs that way.[;)]




anarchyintheuk -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/29/2008 10:31:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

H. M. S. R E P U L S E

M o t t o

Qui Tangit Frangatur: ' Who touches me is broken'.




Great motto.




Xxzard -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 1:48:22 AM)

While conventional wisdom would suggest the escape of the battlewagons is insignificant in the grand scheme of the war we shall see what results from it. One danger is their reappearance in the south somewhere where air cover is sparse, if all of them are together it could pose a threat to large slow transport groups even with some escort.

On the other hand, if you catch the BB's out of PH with the KB their losses will be huge and those heavily damaged BB's won't be coming back like they do at PH.

I should commend you for the continuing strikes on subs in PH, that is something that will do serious damage to him. They are undoubtedly a huge pain for the Empire. Plus, good forward strikes on Jolo and Kuching!




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 8:31:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

That's part of the reasons I've started following your AAR : checking the beginner's (at WitP PBEM) errors to avoid.[:D]

However, his BBs escaped unscathed from PH.  He did not panick and sent them right through the cloud of subs that litter the area south of PH, instead of an east or north route (where you were more susceptible of lying in ambush).  He deprived you of some 1500-1600 VPs that way.[;)]



Well, actually Iīm not a beginner anymore, have played a couple of thousand turns PBEM. So if I make faults - which will undoubtably happen - then itīs because Iīm stupid, but not because Iīm a beginner! [;)]

I couldnīt expect to catch the BBs, like I mentioned before he can go three directions from Pearl at full speed and I can only cover one. So my thinking was as followes: I would go South and after 20 hexes or so, flee either to the West Coast or Australia, as I think this would be the best decision. So I thought that my opponent would think the same and therefore do the "unexpected" move just straight East towards the West Coast. But of course while thinking what would be the best, what would I do, what does he think what I think... [:D] it turned out to be the wrong decision.

The VPs arenīt a problem, as a) I donīt play for autovictory anyway (always nice to achieve it though) and b) if I get my palnned targets, then I will achieve autovictory easily anyway. My last IJN PBEM achieved a 6,5:1 autovictory on 1/43, while only 4:1 is needed. And in that game I also didnīt get 1600 VPs for BBs sunk in Pearl.




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 8:31:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk


quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

H. M. S. R E P U L S E

M o t t o

Qui Tangit Frangatur: ' Who touches me is broken'.




Great motto.




I liked that too...




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 8:45:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Xxzard

While conventional wisdom would suggest the escape of the battlewagons is insignificant in the grand scheme of the war we shall see what results from it. One danger is their reappearance in the south somewhere where air cover is sparse, if all of them are together it could pose a threat to large slow transport groups even with some escort.

On the other hand, if you catch the BB's out of PH with the KB their losses will be huge and those heavily damaged BB's won't be coming back like they do at PH.

I should commend you for the continuing strikes on subs in PH, that is something that will do serious damage to him. They are undoubtedly a huge pain for the Empire. Plus, good forward strikes on Jolo and Kuching!



Hi!

Nice to have you aboard.

As I see it now, even if the slow BBs would be used in the South Pacific there isnīt much they can do. Using those BBs to attack invasion TFs of some 4 or 5 cargoe ships wonīt hurt me much (if the BBs are able to catch them) and as soon as I have a level 4 airfield those BBs are in real danger of getting sunk by Ms. Betty. If I were him, I would have those BBs just sit at the West Coast for the next 18 months to have them for bombardment and invasion cover duty from mid 43 on. If he uses them earlier, the chance to see them being sunk is somewhere around 75% [8D]. He canīt really do a serious offensive the next year (at least none where I canīt overwhelm him) and if he tries to challenge a major invasion of mine, well, if I do a major invasion then there will be 450 hig experienced carrier based ac there to cover the invasion. So this wouldnīt be a good place for the USN BBs to be.

If he wants to use them the next months to attack my small invasions of all those more or less empty areas then he would be better off not using them all together. That doesnīt make much sense in the game, better would be to use one BB coupled with a CA/CL and some escorts. Would do the same - if not more - damage than to use 5 or six BBs in one TF when going in against a small invasion TF.

It was a nice surprise for me to see 5 subs still sitting in Pearl on day two of the war, guess that was just an oversight by my opponent. Weīre a week into the war and he has lost some 30 subs and THAT is great! Those 30 subs would do a couple of times more damage to the Empire than the old BBs from Pearl. A recent Allied game of mine saw me sinking some 100 IJN ships with my subs within the first year, so even if the MK14 torps are defective you still can do A LOT of damage. Takes some micromanagement though and of course this can be interdicted within 3 days if the IJN player decides to put 400 Sallies into a small area to sweep the sea of subs. I have restricted myself to a max of 1 IJA bomber sentai per base on ASW, the next sentai MUST be at least 8 hexes away. This should result in frequent sightings of subs and an attack now and then, but Iīm not interested in seeing 4 or 5 hits on subs every day.

Jolo and Kuching are the usual early targets for the IJN, while Jolo wasnīt even really necessary this time, because Manilaīs port and everything that was lying there was nearly destroyed and the Boise must have run flank speed South. At the moment, the Boise is the only thing that is left somewhere South around the SRA that is a threat. And thatīs why I have my heavy cruisers in this area.





Ambassador -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 8:47:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy
Well, actually Iīm not a beginner anymore, have played a couple of thousand turns PBEM. So if I make faults - which will undoubtably happen - then itīs because Iīm stupid, but not because Iīm a beginner! [;)]

I couldnīt expect to catch the BBs, like I mentioned before he can go three directions from Pearl at full speed and I can only cover one. So my thinking was as followes: I would go South and after 20 hexes or so, flee either to the West Coast or Australia, as I think this would be the best decision. So I thought that my opponent would think the same and therefore do the "unexpected" move just straight East towards the West Coast. But of course while thinking what would be the best, what would I do, what does he think what I think... [:D] it turned out to be the wrong decision.

The VPs arenīt a problem, as a) I donīt play for autovictory anyway (always nice to achieve it though) and b) if I get my palnned targets, then I will achieve autovictory easily anyway. My last IJN PBEM achieved a 6,5:1 autovictory on 1/43, while only 4:1 is needed. And in that game I also didnīt get 1600 VPs for BBs sunk in Pearl.

Sorry, I was not talking about you, but about bigbaba, who said himself in his "opponents wanted" thread that he was a beginner at WitP PBEM. My apologies if you believed my earlier comment was meant for you.[:o]
EDIT: although I greatly respect him for thrusting himself against a veteran jap player. I wish him good luck.


Are you willing to share your strategy ? Are you after India ? Australia ? Siberia ?




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 9:12:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy
Well, actually Iīm not a beginner anymore, have played a couple of thousand turns PBEM. So if I make faults - which will undoubtably happen - then itīs because Iīm stupid, but not because Iīm a beginner! [;)]

I couldnīt expect to catch the BBs, like I mentioned before he can go three directions from Pearl at full speed and I can only cover one. So my thinking was as followes: I would go South and after 20 hexes or so, flee either to the West Coast or Australia, as I think this would be the best decision. So I thought that my opponent would think the same and therefore do the "unexpected" move just straight East towards the West Coast. But of course while thinking what would be the best, what would I do, what does he think what I think... [:D] it turned out to be the wrong decision.

The VPs arenīt a problem, as a) I donīt play for autovictory anyway (always nice to achieve it though) and b) if I get my palnned targets, then I will achieve autovictory easily anyway. My last IJN PBEM achieved a 6,5:1 autovictory on 1/43, while only 4:1 is needed. And in that game I also didnīt get 1600 VPs for BBs sunk in Pearl.

Sorry, I was not talking about you, but about bigbaba, who said himself in his "opponents wanted" thread that he was a beginner at WitP PBEM. My apologies if you believed my earlier comment was meant for you.[:o]
EDIT: although I greatly respect him for thrusting himself against a veteran jap player. I wish him good luck.


Are you willing to share your strategy ? Are you after India ? Australia ? Siberia ?



No need to apologize!

At the moment there is no grand strategy, all I will do the next couple of weeks is to seize the usual IJN targets (means the historical ones) and then have a look on what happened. Itīs only a week into the war but as it stands now, it seems bigbaba wonīt try to fight my forces at all which I see as a mistake. Of course he wonīt take fewer losses if he doesnīt try resistance but it will also end up in a very fast - while hopefully still methodical - conquer of my targets and a full operational Navy, Army and Airforce. Especially the Army will be important, if most of my divisions and brigades are fully combat ready then I can load them up and land them somewhere. If they are worn out then it takes a couple of months to have them combat ready again and thatīs the time the Allied need. And thatīs the reason why I try to use more force at one place at one time like it is done usually. If you have one or two divs more for an important target then you take the target faster and your divs will be in better shape than if you have to grind down the defenders with a dozen attacks when you suffer perhaps one or two 0:1 assaults. Thatīs what is grinding down your own divs.

When looking at the Allied troop movements then I expect him to only hold on to Singapore and Manila/Clark. This will mean I will just starve him in Singapore, attack Clark and force him into Manila and starve him there also. Thatīs a tactic I used a couple of times already and everytime it worked perfectly. After 5 months the enemy assault strenght is only a shadow of what it is in 12/41 and this without having to attack a single time. If you just have one division and a couple of support troops that sieges the enemy in Manila, the Allied there canīt do anything because you get the urban bonus, so the Allied would need some 2000 assault points there to force you out again - this never worked so far in my games. [:D]

Same goes for Singapore. If he retreats all his troops to Singapore, then I will just sit in the woods behind some forts at Johore Baru and block him. He would have to come over the river and get mauled by the river crossing. 5 months later, the enemy resistance will be only light. Also here, 1,5 divs should be enough to keep the Allied honest. Of course there will be some 100+ IJA medium bombers near those prison camps to bomb the airfield now and then. So not having to fight in Jannuary for Manila and Singapore means I have at least 5 or 6 divs that are fully combat ready to be shipped elsewhere. Not to talk about the additional half dozen brigades on hand. We will see...




Ambassador -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 10:13:58 AM)

I see.  And Betty/Nell groups would prevent him of evacuating Singapore (or better, if he does, sink them on the return trip), while he won't have enough 4E bombers to suppress your airfields until much later.

I suppose it's the same reason that made you refrain from attacking Hong Kong right now (unless I missed the combat report) ?  Letting troops there rot a bit, and move in.  Probably with chinese command divisions, to use the SRA div that starts in Canton elsewhere, am I right ?

For the Philippines, isn't it better to land in force in Lingayen, isolate the north-easter USAFFE troops (including two PA divs) and crush them separately, rather than letting them fall back to Manilla ?  IIRC, lack of supplies reduce AV by 4, which is countered by the urban bonus, and this is without counting the forts that would be constructed in several months.  Would they "cost" you less assets by letting them retreat rather than wiping them at start ?




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 11:25:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

I see.  And Betty/Nell groups would prevent him of evacuating Singapore (or better, if he does, sink them on the return trip), while he won't have enough 4E bombers to suppress your airfields until much later.

I suppose it's the same reason that made you refrain from attacking Hong Kong right now (unless I missed the combat report) ?  Letting troops there rot a bit, and move in.  Probably with chinese command divisions, to use the SRA div that starts in Canton elsewhere, am I right ?

For the Philippines, isn't it better to land in force in Lingayen, isolate the north-easter USAFFE troops (including two PA divs) and crush them separately, rather than letting them fall back to Manilla ?  IIRC, lack of supplies reduce AV by 4, which is countered by the urban bonus, and this is without counting the forts that would be constructed in several months.  Would they "cost" you less assets by letting them retreat rather than wiping them at start ?


I doubt that he would seriously think about an evac attempt of the troops in Malaya after he experienced what my bombers did to Forc Z.

Iīve got three more crs to post, one includes the attack on Hong Kong. Yes, the same reason as stated above, I wanted to send more than one div and an eng rgt. Better to send 3 divs to take the town in one or two days than to send 1 div that takes 4, 5 or 6 attacks and gets beat up in the attempt.

Bigbaba already has abandoned the South, I will take the two bases South of Manila in the next couple of days. Heīs now holding on to Clark and Manila. You are right that without supplies the urban bonus makes it still a 100% assault value. But Iīm talking about starving them, not killing them off with attacks. I will have arty there and bombers. After the supplies run out you can see the assault value dropping by around 20 points each day and the defenses will collapse soon then. At least this is my experience. My experience also is that if the Allied sees that he has 1000+ assault points at Manila and the IJA only 500 then this is the point to order a shock attack - which will get repulsed bloodily due to the urban bonus. Seen that so often, I always have to smile. When I need 1000 assault points to both block Singapore and Manila then I can even leave those troops there for a year - it never took so long though.




castor troy -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 11:27:19 AM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/14/41

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Day Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 19,41

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Manoora, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Encounter

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 19,41

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3
G4M1 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Manoora, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Encounter

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

My airforce still finds targets around Malaya...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 19,41

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 12
G4M1 Betty x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Encounter, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Isis, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW Burnie
AP Manoora, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
G3M Nell x 17
G4M1 Betty x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
ML Pro Patria, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Speelman

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

nice to see a ML being sunk, even if itīs just a small one...

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Ground combat at 28,38

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3418 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 107

Defending force 826 troops, 8 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 113 - adjusted assault: 111

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1



Defeated Allied Units Retreating!


This is the base force that left Victoria point. It was caught by a TK rgt and forced to retreat towards Victoria Point again...




Yakface -> RE: Waiting for AE - bigbaba vs. Castor Troy (10/30/2008 11:41:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy


quote:

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk


quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

H. M. S. R E P U L S E

M o t t o

Qui Tangit Frangatur: ' Who touches me is broken'.




Great motto.




I liked that too...



I prefer the vernacular translation: 'You toucha ma ship, I smasha ya face'




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