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Lucky1 -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/3/2009 9:32:13 AM)

My apologies. It seems I accidentally moved Ning's email to another folder where it has languished until I saw GKar's message. I should have clued in that Ning had posted his turn.... 

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Germany, discquited by the large amounts of Soviet espionnage, shifts troops to her Eastern borders. A diplomatic rebuke warns that further violations of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact will not be taken lightly.....

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Using the neutral view mode, one cannot see the large number of tac and strat bombers massed in Britain..... Curiously, German forces in Austria were revealed(?)



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GKar -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/6/2009 8:11:40 PM)

Japan, Winter '41: The Tenno is severely discontent with lack of progress against Chinese factories...

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Marshall Art -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/6/2009 9:18:53 PM)

Russian Winter 1941 is rather light - we save the coldest weather for next year if Germany really wants to visit Moscow [:D]
Numerous troops including Paras in Romania, most tanks (7 out of 10 or so) in East Prussia. A lot of bombers across the fronline but Germany seems to have omitted to build up their Infantry Armies (17 total) ...

Japan has massed its troops in the Chinese provinces so no double team in sight (yet).

turn sent to Ning




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xianing -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/7/2009 9:33:24 AM)

WA 41 winter turn.

Portugal is occupied, Persia turned Axis learning so will be the next target.
Hope pressure from 3 sides would make next turn easier for Russia.


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Lucky1 -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/7/2009 11:01:00 PM)

I actually wasn't planning to attack Russia this turn (next turn was the target). However, apart from having a greater stockpile of supply, I would not be appreciably in a stronger position. So..... Kiev, East Poland, Odessa, and Belarus are taken with minimal losses. Strat bombing yields a damaged factory in Kharkov and a damaged bomber (argh) in Rostov.


Turn sent to GKar (really)

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WanderingHead -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/8/2009 5:50:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucky1
Using the neutral view mode, one cannot see the large number of tac and strat bombers massed in Britain..... Curiously, German forces in Austria were revealed(?)

The Soviet TB in E Poland sees them.



GKar -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/11/2009 8:12:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucky1

Turn sent to GKar (really)

Well, kind of. [:D]
You sent me the (outdated) savegame of our other 2vs2 PBEM...
Please send me a save where I can play Japan. [:)]



Lucky1 -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/12/2009 9:09:10 AM)

Hopefully I have sent the right turn this time (it is the only one I have....)



GKar -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/14/2009 10:13:40 PM)

Japan, Spring '41: The China campaign continues, two factories are damaged and the last coastal province is taken.

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Marshall Art -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/15/2009 2:48:51 PM)

Spring 1941 - Russia faces a heavy tank army in Belorussia which can move into a lot of places next turn. However, with general mobilization human material shall replace heavy weapons to defend Mother Russia...

China is immobilized and awaits the bombing of its last factory.

turn sent to Ning.


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xianing -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/18/2009 6:12:59 PM)

WA 41 spring turn.

To support our Soviet friends (at least now), WA entered into Greece to threat Balkan.
Italy becomes the graveyard of Axis fighters.
Too bad Turkey becomes our enemy after Persia, we are peacelovers so can't allow this.


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Lucky1 -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/19/2009 8:35:20 AM)

OK. I don't know if anyone reads these AARS anymore or whether those who do so are interested in new tricks.... Assuming a limited yes to both questions, herewith my comments:

Xianing is being a real pain (!) with the transports in Malta. ARGGG He has 5 transports that he can move troops and supply with and then pop back into port (this is a special island/port ability). In retrospect, I should have forced a combat in the central med (even if I were to lose) because I think I know exactly what he is going to do next.... So much for quick turns during the kids' bath! Anyhow, this is very effective pressure on Germany before the US juggernaut is at war.

Interestingly, Ning has also invaded Argenting. I have never seen this before, so I am curious where he is going with it... I presume it was to get diplomatic shift from neighbouring countries. Another neat idea. Hopefully Turkey will shift again once Greece is abandoned and liberated....

As for Hitler's move, I have sacrificed four armour to knock out Gorki and Stalingrad. Both were lightly defended. I hope there were units queued at the factories (I think they are now lost, but am not sure how that works). Otherwise, the sacrifice might not have been worth it....

Turn sent to GKar.



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rjh1971 -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/19/2009 2:04:49 PM)

I read them every now and then [:D][:)]



lkendter -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/19/2009 4:52:59 PM)

[delurk] I still read the AAR [/delurk]



joe_canadian -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/19/2009 9:34:58 PM)

I love the AAR's



Marshall Art -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/22/2009 10:31:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucky1

Xianing is being a real pain (!) with the transports in Malta. ARGGG He has 5 transports that he can move troops and supply with and then pop back into port (this is a special island/port ability).



I have always wondered if this "Malta bonus" is justified. Considering that Malta convoys were very costly for the Allies it rather should be disallowed to move ships in and out of island ports at no cost IMO. But only in the next patch [;)]

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucky1

As for Hitler's move, I have sacrificed four armour to knock out Gorki and Stalingrad. Both were lightly defended. I hope there were units queued at the factories (I think they are now lost, but am not sure how that works). Otherwise, the sacrifice might not have been worth it....



Being aware of the possibility and to tempt the Panzer troopers the factories were used to mostly build tech, so Marshall Schukov smiles and says: "Comerade Stalin, we caught some fresh fish..."[:D]



WanderingHead -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/23/2009 7:15:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Marshall Art
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucky1

Xianing is being a real pain (!) with the transports in Malta. ARGGG He has 5 transports that he can move troops and supply with and then pop back into port (this is a special island/port ability).



I have always wondered if this "Malta bonus" is justified. Considering that Malta convoys were very costly for the Allies it rather should be disallowed to move ships in and out of island ports at no cost IMO. But only in the next patch [;)]


This was a bug in the original GGWAW. During AWD develop, the discussion on fixing it came to the idea that there were few real benefits for ports, and this mechanic might as well be left in the game in order to provide a little enhanced value to ports. It was obviously left in.

With port benefits in Global Glory, I don't really see a need to keep this. It is kind of funky and inconsistent. In particular, it doesn't give any benefit to most (non-island) ports.




WanderingHead -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/23/2009 7:16:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rjh1971
I read them every now and then [:D][:)]

me too.



WanderingHead -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/23/2009 7:16:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucky1
Interestingly, Ning has also invaded Argenting.


This is the kind of thing I'd love to see a screen shot for. I don't know exactly why, perhaps just because I am so incredulous that I want to see it to believe it.





Lucky1 -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/23/2009 8:48:19 AM)

Ning would undoubtedly have a better screen shot (but I am sure he does not wish to show his naval dispostions - not that he has much to worry about), but here is what I can see:



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xianing -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/24/2009 5:47:59 PM)

To be honest, I just want to get more resource centers. Because I know soon with the loss of South Asia, US would need to get resources from otherwhere.
As there is not too much penaty (but too bad Turkey changed face) to attack a neutral, Argentina became a good target (less threatened by axis and 2 resoure centers).



GKar -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/25/2009 8:16:12 PM)

Japan, Summer '41: Since the US stopped to pay the well-deserved resource gift lately, the Japanese army decided to go to China to get it themselves. Paotow and Kunming fall.

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Marshall Art -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (2/26/2009 8:35:45 PM)

Summer 1941 - Those 4 German tank units were destroyed, Russian army is thrilled and eager to let some more victories follow... Chinese militias flee into the mountains.

turn sent to Ning.


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xianing -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (3/2/2009 8:39:44 AM)

WA 41 summer,
Italy is invaded by WA, but with a high price(one TB shot down, one HF damaged).
Spain is also taken as the third front with one inf damaged by autohit when landing.
Hope these can help Russia enough (sorry no supplies for Marshall this turn because these two battles).
All German subs were back to repair.




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Lucky1 -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (3/4/2009 9:21:07 AM)

Hehe. Germany's offensives are stalled and 1941 is not even over yet.....

Anyhow, not much luck this turn. Greece is liberated, but Turkey does not experience a diplomatic shift. Reinforcements bound for the Eastern Front are diverted to Western France and North Italy. I can't recall what the surrender provisions are from Italy, but hopefully I have not left something out....



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GKar -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (3/12/2009 10:20:12 PM)

Japan, Fall '41: The Tenno wonders whether his decision to ally with Germany was a wise one... [;)]

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Marshall Art -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (3/14/2009 6:54:57 PM)

Fall 1941 - Russia advances into Northern Persia and the Baltic States, the pressure from Germany has decreased thanks to a highly effective WA offensive in Spain, Italy and elsewhere... Some more units were dispatched to match the Japanese force in Siberia. China diggs in and hopes it will be spared from further attacks..


turn sent to Ning.



xianing -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (3/16/2009 7:08:14 PM)

41 Fall WA,
Italy surrendered as Sicily was taken.
Spain and South Italy was solidated.


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rjh1971 -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (3/16/2009 11:38:48 PM)

[:-][:-] Doesn't look good for the Axis [;)]



Lucky1 -> RE: Round 3 2vs2: Lucky1/GKar vs MarshallArt/xianing (3/17/2009 8:58:28 AM)

Hehe, nope! No need for screen shot this turn. Germany destroys a few transports and consolidates on the Eastern front while reinforcing W France and N Italy. Alas....



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