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aprezto -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/16/2009 6:45:30 AM)

sent mine back. Wow, talk about changing little.




Mus -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/16/2009 8:29:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro

So, like, where is 21?[;)]



Dunno apparently Russia has fallen so far behind they arent even done with last turn yet... I dont know how thats possible.

[:D]




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/16/2009 8:53:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mus


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ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro

So, like, where is 21?[;)]



Dunno apparently Russia has fallen so far behind they arent even done with last turn yet... I dont know how thats possible.
[:D]


I have heard the Czar is having some episodes of thinking he is in some sort of fying machine fighting dogs in the sky over your merry country. His country would be better off if he gets out of his flying machine and puts on his riding boots.[;)]





06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/16/2009 8:59:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: aprezto

sent mine back. Wow, talk about changing little.

Sanity prevails-a little while longer.




aprezto -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/16/2009 10:08:41 PM)

This is the time of Napolean - who needs sanity! Off with Terje's head! [:D]




Anthropoid -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/16/2009 10:32:16 PM)

Hey guys, finally got round to installing CoGEE on my 'gaming desktop' (have been playing on my laptop all these months). Will install the All Generals mod and the patch before I try to play my next turn, but just wanted to let you guys know in case something goes wrong.




Anthropoid -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/16/2009 10:36:22 PM)

What turn are we on now? Did I miss a turn? Are the ailerons engaged?

Anybody! Help! Get this bandit off my tail!




Anthropoid -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/16/2009 10:40:10 PM)

Hey what the heck do I do with these text files in the "All Generals" folder anyway?




aprezto -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/16/2009 11:38:31 PM)

make a new folder called 1792 all generals
copy the contents of 1792 into it
unzip the text files into the 1792 all generals folder and choose to overwrite the files.
done.

Oh wait, I think the all generals files might have different names. You must change the all general's files to be the same as the originals.




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/17/2009 12:16:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

What turn are we on now? Did I miss a turn? Are the ailerons engaged?

Anybody! Help! Get this bandit off my tail!

[:D]




Anthropoid -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 3:43:07 AM)

Hey guys had a big day getting a grant proposal sent off (hurrah!) and then watched "Transformers" (what a total affront to human intelligence! [:@])) Will play my turn tomorrow am . . .




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 4:07:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

Hey guys had a big day getting a grant proposal sent off (hurrah!) and then watched "Transformers" (what a total affront to human intelligence! [:@])) Will play my turn tomorrow am . . .



That's OK Anthropoid. If you get it done early enough, perhaps we can finish 2 turns tomorrow.[;)]

Thanks for letting us know.




Mus -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 4:30:28 AM)

Are you talking about the newest Transformers? If so, did you find it to be racist? This might sound like a joke but its not, I heard that there were Transformers in the new movie that performed menial tasks for the other Autobots and spoke in a kind of African-Americanesque dialect.

There are a ton of videos regarding this "controversy" on You Tube if you dont know what Im talking about.

[8|]




Anthropoid -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 4:59:43 AM)

This is totally off topic, but since there is some interest it seems, here is the movie review I wrote over at a Civ site where we have had lots of 'off-topic' discussions over the years. Didn't really notice any derogatory racial stuff in this one, though there was one racially stereotyped robot.

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Netflix is worth every penny.

Watched two movies tonight, one of which is one of the best movies I've ever seen, the other of which is one of the worst.

The former (good) one was called "Very Young Girls" a documentary about underage prostitutes and an organization called GEMS that is focused on helping young women who have fallen victim to sexual exploitation, i.e., 'pimping' to break out of 'the lifestyle.' This is one of the most heartbreaking, but straightforward and unquestionable movies I've ever seen.

It is a devastating indictment of our societies that these injustices prevail at the high rates they continue at, and meanwhile we are spendin gabillions of dollars on porn, Hollywood, and cable TV. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of your daughters, nieces, and neighbor kids are running away, getting involved in drugs, and becoming victims to pimps every year. The average age at which prostitutes enter the lifestyle today? 13, that is how sick we are as societies . . . Sometimes I (almost) empathize with how much they (the Islamofascists) hate the West and its moral corruption. If only they were any better and used only nonviolent means to protest and did not simply replace consumeristic exploitation of women and girls with pure medieval brutality and repression of them . . . Anyway, an amazing movie and everyone should watch it. Not a "fun" movie by any stretch of the imagination, but an excellent movie: 9 out of 10.

The other one was an interesting counterpoint to the first. While children from the lower classes, ethnic minorities, the underprivileged, are suffering lives as veritable slaves, the middle-classes continue to subsidize the feeble-brained marketers who have taken over Hollywood by paying for not only one version, but remakes of this second dog of a movie movie that has got to be the most foul piece of crap ever to be Transformed into cinema: Transformers.

Now don't get me wrong, the whole idea of an alien race of sentient robot creatures from another galaxy who come to Earth to find and fight over an ancient relict that is the possible key to a new beginning to a vanquished civilization . . . sure, a bit heady but I can go with that. Good fantasy is all in good fun I say. But when a story like that, which deserves a certain, shall we say 'serious' tone in order to be palatable, is also mixed with the most juvenile excuses for humor, eye-candy, and feeble story lines, Hollywood has gone too far. Combine this with the false nostalgia, and false emotional ups and downs, the trivialization of combat, human frailty, injury, patriotism, warfare . . . It is not so much that the entire movie was terrible.

There are undeniably amazing special effects, good casting, good cinemtography, even some funny scenes, and some good acting (amazing really that those guys managed to do as well as they did given the atrocious story they had to work with). Even the basic story is not entirely too silly to have been a decent movie.
But in execution it works out to be one thing and one thing only: a teenage boys excuse for scene after repetitive scene of the following mix:  nerdy-but-smart-late-bloomer guy saving the day + sex-pot popular High School girl sweating and panting + giant robots fighting + special forces guys bravely saying SpecOps cliche lines and vainly firing cool weapons at giant robots + National Security advisor guys saying officialese sounding politician/leader type things (and firing shotguns at mischevious ninja star throwing nasty-bot thing) + explosions galore + hapless humans running through utter chaos of cars and bricks exploding while giant robots pummel each other senseless and yet, somehow manage to pass through with only a little scrach on their forehead and a smudge of dirt on their cheek + some "Area 51-esque nefarious double-top-secret "A-hole" guys acting like nefarious A-holes + A-hole guys getting bested and handcuffed nekkid to a pole by aforementioned sexpot female (who lo and behold is _actually_ the daughter of a car thief who is an expert mechanic! and turns out to be (despite being just a "girl") quite the brave soldier in the war against the decepticons!) . . . The first three scenes to employ this time-tested formula to begule the juvenile males were a bit of a chuckle. The 12 and 14 left me slack-jawed. By the end I was yawning and continuing to watch purely out of amazement at how long they were dragging this thing out. An amazingly overblown waste of billions of dollars: 1.5 out of 10.

When I take the implications of these two movies together, I don't hold out a great deal of hope for the betterment of human kind in the longrun. More technological? More segmented into posh spoiled haves and poor suffering havenots? Sure, but "advancing" into a true civilization? No, I don't think so.




IronWarrior -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 5:03:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mus

Are you talking about the newest Transformers? If so, did you find it to be racist? This might sound like a joke but its not, I heard that there were Transformers in the new movie that performed menial tasks for the other Autobots and spoke in a kind of African-Americanesque dialect.

There are a ton of videos regarding this "controversy" on You Tube if you dont know what Im talking about.

[8|]


Meh racism is just a cover for the rich to hide the true injustices of economic inequaity and to keep the poor from uniting in class warfare. Then again, I always considered Robin Hood to be the hero and not the villain. Don't know if this type of discussion is allowed but it's my thread damn it! [:@][;)]




Mus -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 8:49:56 AM)

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An amazingly overblown waste of billions of dollars: 1.5 out of 10.


Billions of dollars? Was this movie part of the Obama stimulus plan or something?

[:D]

I guess you confirmed the idea that there was a racially stereotyped robot in the movie.

I find it really interesting that something that self evidently racist can make it through screenings of a major motion picture without somebody raising a red flag and the studio doing an emergency voiceover. After all its animated.

Then again Jar Jar Binks somehow passed the smell test.

[:-]

Mad TV had a field day with that one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtSOMZEXv34

3:27 and on... Aunt Jar Jar Mimah... so close to the truth about the new Star Wars, and many other big budget productions, it hurts.

"Uhhhh... is this some kind of joke?"

[:D]

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ORIGINAL: IronWarrior

Then again, I always considered Robin Hood to be the hero and not the villain.


Me too. Im all for small government and IIRC he robbed from the nobles and gave tax money back to the people.

[:'(]




terje439 -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 9:53:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mus
Then again Jar Jar Binks somehow passed the smell test.


As an old Star Wars Galaxies player I have to do the old war cry now!

"Jar Jar Binks sealed the fate of all Gungans!"
KILL THOSE GUNGANS!





terje439 -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 9:54:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: aprezto

This is the time of Napolean - who needs sanity! Off with Terje's head! [:D]


Come collect it if you dare, you Preussian dog!




IronWarrior -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 1:15:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mus

Me too. Im all for small government and IIRC he robbed from the nobles and gave tax money back to the people.

[:'(]


[:-] According to Hood scholars on wiki (yeah I know I was surprised they exist too) that wasn't the intention. I do enjoy the irony of agreeing with someone, but only because of polar opposite ideologic reasoning though. Perhaps a revised Robin Hood including Swiss bank accounts and off-shore tax havens is in order. Probably more the stuff of the Green Arrow though. [:D]




Anthropoid -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 2:57:51 PM)

Russian done.




Mus -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 8:30:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IronWarrior

[:-] According to Hood scholars on wiki (yeah I know I was surprised they exist too) that wasn't the intention.


LOL. I dont want to get in too serious a discussion about a folk legend. I guess I am surprised there are Hood scholars as well.


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ORIGINAL: IronWarrior

I do enjoy the irony of agreeing with someone, but only because of polar opposite ideologic reasoning though. Perhaps a revised Robin Hood including Swiss bank accounts and off-shore tax havens is in order. Probably more the stuff of the Green Arrow though. [:D]


Sounds like typical commie revisionist history Bill. Destroy a peoples history (or in this case folk heroes) and you destroy a people and that sort of thing.

[:D]




IronWarrior -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/18/2009 11:53:36 PM)

Hehe looks like we finally disagree on something. Anyways enough of my farting in church...

Turn 22 sent




Mus -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/19/2009 12:11:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IronWarrior

Hehe looks like we finally disagree on something. Anyways enough of my farting in church...

Turn 22 sent


Yeah. I think my side is supposed to make a crack about robbing from working Peter to buy lazy Pauls vote at this point

[;)]

Anyways, Brits are in. Maybe we could do two turns today if everyone tries?




aprezto -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/19/2009 2:42:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: terje439


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ORIGINAL: aprezto

This is the time of Napolean - who needs sanity! Off with Terje's head! [:D]


Come collect it if you dare, you Preussian dog!


Ha! No need, I'll wait for the 'government for the people' to realise they've replaced one despot for another.

'Off with his head' [:D]




terje439 -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/19/2009 11:12:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: aprezto


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ORIGINAL: terje439


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ORIGINAL: aprezto

This is the time of Napolean - who needs sanity! Off with Terje's head! [:D]


Come collect it if you dare, you Preussian dog!


Ha! No need, I'll wait for the 'government for the people' to realise they've replaced one despot for another.

'Off with his head' [:D]


Ah, but do you not realise how to be a despot? All you need is the outmost loyalty from the armed forces, the pesants are rubble anyway.




Mus -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/20/2009 7:53:49 AM)

Whats the holdup in this game?




Russian Guard -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/20/2009 8:29:18 AM)


This has been a fun game to follow, get a move on [:D]







06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/20/2009 8:58:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mus

Whats the holdup in this game?

I don't know, but I wish it was somewhat faster. We have finished 22 turns in the 35 days since we sent the first turns. At this rate is will be well over a year to finish. We are spread around the world a bit, so getting more than 1 turn in a day would be difficult. One turn a day for this game-especially at this stage, seems like an easy thing to do. I hope we can get there.




IronWarrior -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/20/2009 8:56:43 PM)

Had received the last file early am right before I was going to sleep, so it had to wait 'til today. [;)]

Turn 23 sent




Matto -> RE: PBEM 109 (7/20/2009 9:38:28 PM)

Sirs,
I have HW problems with my notebook, which is on repair now. I asked Prussian Kaiser to play my part ... I can be online sometimes for consultation, but cannot play. Sorry for problems ...




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