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06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/12/2009 4:24:54 PM)

Turkey is in.

And, BTW, I got a new general-must be because of the DOW.




Kingmaker -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/13/2009 10:30:10 AM)

HiHi

Hope I'm not last, but Englands T48 sent in.

All the Best
Peter




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/14/2009 3:39:13 AM)

Dare I ask..just where are Austria's allies?

Turkey T49 in.




terje439 -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/14/2009 9:19:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro

Dare I ask..just where are Austria's allies?

Turkey T49 in.


sssh!!
and replied.




Kingmaker -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/14/2009 10:04:44 PM)

HiHi

England T49 also sent in.

All the Best
Peter




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/15/2009 4:54:22 AM)

Wow! Looks like war is upon us.

Turkey T50 in.




Kingmaker -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/15/2009 11:16:42 AM)

From, the Earl of Evenwood; 1st Minister & Foreign Secretary to his Majesty King George III.

To, the Czar of all the Russias, or his Minister with Portfolio for Foreign affairs & the Court at Versailles.

It is with grave concern that his Majesties Government learns of the unprovoked & undeclared war but recently embarked on by Russia against Prussia. This is regarded by the Government here as uncivilised behaviour in the extreme and brings nothing but shame upon the once proud name of Russia.

It is therefore with the utmost regret that I and His Majesties Privy Council hereby give due notice that England has, as of this moment, declared a state of War with Russia and further would warn the Court at Versailles that any action taken by France against Prussia in support of Russia would also be met with an immediate ‘Declaration of War’ by England against France.

However as English trading interests in Europe are likely to be even further disrupted by our direct military involvement on the continent I would advise the Government of Russia that should they immediately withdraw their forces from Prussian territory, and, upon the payment to Prussia of £500 by way of compensation, then direct military intervention by England could even at this stage be averted.

But, should Russia not see fit to follow our request for an end to this barbaric act of aggression then this Government would support Prussia with the utmost vigour, to include both direct Military intervention & blockade of Russian ports.

Your humble Servant.

Evenwood.

1st Minister & Foreign Secretary to King George III




Anthropoid -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/15/2009 2:36:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kingmaker

From, the Earl of Evenwood; 1st Minister & Foreign Secretary to his Majesty King George III.

To, the Czar of all the Russias, or his Minister with Portfolio for Foreign affairs & the Court at Versailles.

It is with grave concern that his Majesties Government learns of the unprovoked & undeclared war but recently embarked on by Russia against Prussia. This is regarded by the Government here as uncivilised behaviour in the extreme and brings nothing but shame upon the once proud name of Russia.

It is therefore with the utmost regret that I and His Majesties Privy Council hereby give due notice that England has, as of this moment, declared a state of War with Russia and further would warn the Court at Versailles that any action taken by France against Prussia in support of Russia would also be met with an immediate ‘Declaration of War’ by England against France.

However as English trading interests in Europe are likely to be even further disrupted by our direct military involvement on the continent I would advise the Government of Russia that should they immediately withdraw their forces from Prussian territory, and, upon the payment to Prussia of £500 by way of compensation, then direct military intervention by England could even at this stage be averted.

But, should Russia not see fit to follow our request for an end to this barbaric act of aggression then this Government would support Prussia with the utmost vigour, to include both direct Military intervention & blockade of Russian ports.

Your humble Servant.

Evenwood.

1st Minister & Foreign Secretary to King George III



From Ivanarmpit Maksanoizi, First Minister of the Russian Kingdoms, Servant to Tzar Anthropoid

An Open Letter to Great Britain, and the International Community

From the Anglish perspective, safely nestled in your green emerald Isle, the affairs of our Eastern peoples may appear brusque, even as you insulting state "uncivilized" or "barbaric." However, your opinions are not considered in our court to be weighty, especially given the inherent hypocrisy of your actions which are so clearly in service to your own agendas, which as you point out, is to meddle in the affairs of the continent.

Your declaration of war against Russia, for putatively "civilized" reasons is in fact a thinly disguised powerplay, an attempt to extend your influence even deeper into the lives of true Europeans and Asians.

Russias pre-emptive attack on Prussia, while admittedly unorthodox, was entirely justified and warranted, and indeed honorable. Our cassus belli was the mobilization of in excess of 100 thousand Prussian troops just across the Russia border, and immediately adjacent to the area of Russian supply distribution serving the liberation campaign in Austrian-dominated Vilna.

-=-Any nation which would consider the mobilization of such large troop formations on her border to be a mundane event, unworthy of quick and decisive action, is unlikely to survive as a sovereing power. A point which we would ask the international community to weigh carefully-=-

In short, our attack was a purely defensive action.

In the interest of transparency with the international community and as a demonstration that Russias true intent is simply to restore a state of balance and equity in the circum-Poland region, here I attach our recent communique to the Kaiser of Prussia.

-=-=-=-
Dearest Kaizer,

It was with regret that we calculated it to be in the best interest of Russia to execute our attack as soon as possible. In future you may wish to keep your large military formations a bit further from your borders in order to avert this sort of misunderstanding.

I assure you, Russia will be entirely reasonable about a quick peaceful settlement and has no interest to cause undue harm to Prussia. Our actions were simply an act of preemptive self-defense.

With Warm Regards

Da Tzar
-=-=-=-=

We have no interest to cause undue harm to Prussia or Austria, and will be happy to begin a dialogue, in consultation with our French allies about terms of surrender.

Sincerely,
Minister Maksafunoizi




aprezto -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 12:11:03 AM)

Ivanarmpit; Servant to the Tzar;

While it may help you sleep at night - blaming your monstrous transgression of state boundaries and condemning so many peace-loving Prussians to an untimely death - on the proximity of Prussian forces. How can you inhabit your own head without wondering whether you are Jekyll or Hyde (our hats off to the British literaty, who have not only created this most worthwhile of analogies but also gone to the trouble of making them known before their time)?

It was Russian forces, camped on the Prussian border for almost half a year that prompted Prussian fear; a fear that has proved justified. At the time you blamed guerilla action on your presence, yet you sat next door to the same guerillas that still inhabit the province they were always in. Yet when Prussia moves to defend her borders for exactly the same reason you name this casus belli!

The honourable British have it right: your act reeks of opportunism, barbarism and is highly uncivilised.

If our proximity caused you so much angst a civilised Monarchy might have attempted to ask us to step back from the border. Obviously 'diplomacy first' is below the Tzar.

To the French: you have been dragged into a conflict on the whim of a madman, don't do it justice by giving in to greed. Let him flail away against us and know that his transgression has removed his forces against the Austrians and bought in the British against him, and possibly you. I would seriously review my alliance of defense if it is to drag you into war as it has done so twice now. A pledge of defense should be just that, support of another nations 'defense' - it has been falsely used.

Kaiser Aprezto




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 1:43:25 AM)

Kings, Kaiser's and Czar's.
Who first attacked a peaceful, but weak country? Austria. Who annexed their hapless neighbor? Austria. Who attempted to bribe its neighbors with its ill gotten gains? Austria. Those who sow to the wind shall reap the whirlwind.

The good Prussian Kaiser must realized, sooner or later, that to support such unjust actions will eventually have repercussions.

Sultan 06




IronWarrior -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 3:25:53 AM)

To the Ottoman Sultan and friend of Spain,

As my ally, it would be remiss for me to not point out that your advisers appeared to have misinformed you of past events. Indeed, I believe if you take at look through the archives you will find that it was Russia who first declared war on Poland. That is, if this is the weak and peaceful neighbor you speak of. Surely Austria only wanted a say in the fate of her borders? And when the generous gift of territories were offered to Russia, they were thrown back in her face. I have to wonder why Russia began the war in Poland to begin with?

I dearly hope the good Sultan knows his new friends well, of whom you are willing to lavish with Turkish blood! Perhaps you wish to keep your friends close and enemies closer?

Warm Regards,

King IronWarrior IV of Spain




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 3:34:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronWarrior

To the Ottoman Sultan and friend of Spain,

As my ally, it would be remiss for me to not point out that your advisers appeared to have misinformed you of past events.
King IronWarrior IV of Spain


Is this possible?? It is possible...the archives will be opened.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Royal Archives have been opened for the Sultan to view. The Russian Empire was apparently at war with Poland no later than July of 1792. Austria did not DOW Poland until August, 1792.

As soon as the screams of a dying Vizier dies out, I will ponder this situation.




aprezto -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 5:53:29 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro

Kings, Kaiser's and Czar's.
Who first attacked a peaceful, but weak country? Austria. Who annexed their hapless neighbor? Austria. Who attempted to bribe its neighbors with its ill gotten gains? Austria. Those who sow to the wind shall reap the whirlwind.

The good Prussian Kaiser must realized, sooner or later, that to support such unjust actions will eventually have repercussions.

Sultan 06


Sultan 06;

Did you see us DoW the Austrian protagonists like the faithful lapdog you think we are?

No! We were happy to remain neutral in this affair.

However, if it is advice you are after, and history that you turn to, it would be worthwhile reviewing the Russian pentient for attack without warning and her coveting of lands to her south that you shouldn't forget.

Kaiser Aprezto





terje439 -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 11:17:14 AM)

France is not pleased with the escalation of this conflict, and we give our word and honor that no French soldier will march on Preussia.
However we are deeply concerned about the movement of the British fleet, if British sailors were to do something stupid, like open fire on French merchants peacefully trying to keep goods flowing, we will have no choice but to respond.

We do however that the new King of England does not chose such a direction. France does not desire war, but when Austria started to take possession along the Rhine, this was an insult to France, and when war broke out between Austria and Russia, we were obliged to take up arms to aid our ally.
This new war against Preussia however is not something we will act on, so if Preussia is willing, we are willing to let this war simply dry out.


L'Terje De France.


(Oh, and replied btw :) )




Kingmaker -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 2:50:24 PM)

HiHi

England T50 sent in.

All the Best
Peter




Kingmaker -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 4:23:38 PM)

From, the Earl of Evenwood; 1st Minister & Foreign Secretary to his Majesty King George III.

To, L'Terje of France & Ivanarmpit Maksanoizi, First Minister of the Russian Kingdoms, Servant to Tzar Anthropoid

His Majesties Government is pleased in this instance to accept the assurances of the Court at Versailles that they harbour no ill intent towards Prussia and will therefore not become involved in any hostilities with that nation. We do this as a gesture of ‘Good Faith’ despite over 400 years worth of experience with the rather dubious nature of French, “Honour”, and further, I can personally assure L’Terje of France that there will be no punitive action taken against French Merchants honestly plying their trade. Indeed the English Guild of Merchants, of which I am Honouree Secretary, welcomes fair competition as it gives occasion for people to note the superior nature of English goods.

Minister Maksafunoizi, it is with considerable pleasure that we in this country have witnessed the rise in education standards at the Russian Court, even to the point where the Czars Ministers can now ‘Read & Write’, as you indeed yourself bear witness to. It is nevertheless felt by his Majesties Government that sadly in the area of Geographical Knowledge there is still a considerable lack of understanding, to wit, “The Emerald Isles” or as it is more commonly called “Ireland”, is separated geographically from those lands that would hold an “Anglish (or English) perspective” by a body of water known as the ‘Irish Sea’, therefore in implying that the two are a single entity you are I regret to say, in serious error.

However, should this lack of Geographical knowledge in any way prove a discomfort to either yourself or to those with aspirations towards learning at the Czars Court then I would personally apply the utmost endeavour to secure the services of a well respected Tutor of Geographical Knowledge to travel to Russia with the intent of spreading that knowledge.

On matters regarding the current state of Hostilities between Russia & Prussia the Privy Council welcomes your assurances that, and I quote, “Russia will be entirely reasonable about a quick peaceful settlement” and merely await confirmation from Kaiser Aprezto that the terms offer adequate compensation for the damage inflicted before standing down in our preparations for war.

In the meantime however please be advised that English forces are even now moving into position to aid the Kaiser in the defence of his Homeland.

I remain your Humble Servant.

Evenwood.

1st Minister & Foreign Secretary to King George III




Anthropoid -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 7:52:34 PM)

[:D] <just when things start to get good, no time to get creative with in-character responses . . >

quote:

. . . as you indeed yourself bear witness to.


You lecture us on our faulty English, yet you yourself end a sentence with a preposition. Hmmph . . .

Turkey has nothing to fear from Russia, and the Sultan is fully aware of this. Russian efforts in Poland have always been transparent and honorable. The Austrian takeover was in contrast performed through cryptic, and dishonourable "political" means, i.e., the detainment, execution or exile of pro-Russian ministers and statesmen. The neighbors of Austria must judge which is the less honorable approach to international relations.

@ Prussia: we really were just fighting the geurillas, but they moved into the northern province and then the snows prevented our movement. By the time the spring arrived, you had moved your forces into a position to threaten our supply.

Since our French ally will evidently be perfectly content to resume a state of peace with Prussia, we hereby make a one-time no-strings attached offer to accept a Prussian surrender at any time. Russia will not pay reparations nor any other penalty to Prussia or Great Britain, however, Russia will happily refrain from imposing _any_ penalties on Prussia. In effect, we will happily resume peace at "zero-cost" to Prussia if you are willing, we can discuss precisely the terms of a peaceful settlement via private communications, but I wanted it known to the international community that a reasonable offer has been placed on the table for Prussia.

RusDone and returned (51 I think it was?)




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 9:12:19 PM)

Be it known; a cease fire was offered to the Prussian Kaiser by Selim 06, Sultan. If desired, the good Kaiser can just wait a few months for official hostilities to end. The Sultan had no intention of marching to Prussia even had the war continued.

It is hoped that peace will once again come upon Europe.

Selim 06

Turkey T51 in.




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 9:46:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: aprezto

Sultan 06;

Did you see us DoW the Austrian protagonists like the faithful lapdog you think we are?

No! We were happy to remain neutral in this affair.

However, if it is advice you are after, and history that you turn to, it would be worthwhile reviewing the Russian pentient for attack without warning and her coveting of lands to her south that you shouldn't forget.

Kaiser Aprezto


Kaiser Aprezto

Your points are understood. An in depth reevaluation of Ottoman/Prussian relations have been initiated.

Selim 06
Sultan




Kingmaker -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/16/2009 10:05:16 PM)

HiHi

You lecture us on our faulty English, yet you yourself end a sentence with a preposition. Hmmph . . .

Perfectly acceptable for those times Seamus, when a standard format of the language was not so common place, what might be looked with more of a raised eyebrow is the use of modern terminology e.g. “powerplay”, (even now ‘Spell checker queries it) that would probably have caused a great deal of debate as to meaning back then, ... anyhow, it’s only a bit of fun so don’t be so pigging pedantic [:D]

All the Best
Peter





Anthropoid -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/17/2009 12:42:46 AM)

Well you did notice my Ministers name didn't you!? That struck me as more Madd Magazine-esque than pedantic [;)]




aprezto -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/17/2009 4:43:19 AM)

Surrendering to Russia will mean I have to surrender to your ally France, will that knock-on and also force me to surrender to Turkey?

What will France demand of Prussia in her enforced surrender?




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/17/2009 5:47:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: aprezto

Surrendering to Russia will mean I have to surrender to your ally France, will that knock-on and also force me to surrender to Turkey?

What will France demand of Prussia in her enforced surrender?



The Ottoman Empire will have zero demands on Prussia.




Matto -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/17/2009 8:48:29 AM)

Dear Sutlan
your harem (inbox) is full ... so my answer is waiting for some place inside
Matto





terje439 -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/17/2009 10:25:11 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: aprezto

Surrendering to Russia will mean I have to surrender to your ally France, will that knock-on and also force me to surrender to Turkey?

What will France demand of Prussia in her enforced surrender?



To remove this threat to Preussia, France has offered Preussia a seize-fire.

06 Maestro - clean out your inbox [:D]

And replied.




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/17/2009 2:55:10 PM)

My apologies to the Royal's-the mail service has been reorganized.
Please re-send




Kingmaker -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/17/2009 3:31:20 PM)

HiHi

Well you did notice my Ministers name didn't you!? That struck me as more Madd Magazine-esque than pedantic

Yer, translated at this end as "He of the extremely loud Armpits" [:D]

All the Best
Peter




aprezto -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/18/2009 12:37:12 AM)

Tzar Anthropoid;

Your offer appears generous, but Prussia is a proud nation of proud warriors. We can not stomach a surrender unless it is forced upon us.

You chose your course of action, in what appears a whim, now you will see how you have undermined your allies efforts to humble the Austrians.

Prussia may ultimately be bought down by the disatisfaction of the peasantry, but we will fight you until that is forced upon us.

To arms.

Kaiser Aprezto




06 Maestro -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/19/2009 3:24:25 AM)

I offer peace and what do I get-attacked! The Austrian Commander assumed he would trample the archaic Ottoman Army-ha!
BTW Turkey T52 in.




terje439 -> RE: PBEM 109 (9/19/2009 9:59:17 AM)

Replied.

France is somewhat concerned with the alliances that Britain is currently building....




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