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terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/7/2009 9:26:24 AM)
Turn 15 Our generals bring great news from Holland! Our forces besieged Amsterdam and managed to take the city, as a result all of Holland is now under French control. Our diplomats on the other hand brings dire news, the cowards in The Palatinate has sought terms with Preussia and is now under Preussian protection. This will not stand, The Palatinate is on OUR side of the Rhine (see map below). Our labor this turn went into the production of two militia units, these low level units do not fight well, but each province can have one militia free of charge to protect its cities. So these units will be moved into Holland to serve in our fortresses there. I need to launch a pidgeon towards Berlin so that Preussia understands that they MUST cut their ties with The Palatinate, this is not debatable at all. Luxembourg has finally calmed down after our not-so-friendly takeover and now produces at full rate, Flanders will do so next turn, but it will be 7 more turns before The Netherlands accept our rightful rule. [image]local://upfiles/11504/D4A17AC1C6B545098840AF6990F34889.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/7/2009 10:20:31 AM)
Turn 15.5 The Preussians have the nerve to suggest that I release The Netherlands before they will move back across the Rhine. Another France/Preussian war might be looming. I countered the demand to free The Netherlands with that the Preussian part of Poland must be liberated first, I also made it quite clear that this is reason for war!

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/7/2009 10:33:26 AM)
Turn 15.5 Part 2 Well, war with Preussia is bound to happen now. Bright side of things is that Austria will remain out of the fight due to the Austrian/French war ending after the Preussian/French war. This means that France and Preussia are no longer in a state of enforced peace, but Austria and France are.

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/7/2009 10:30:22 PM)
Turn 16 Who said that timing is everything? No matter who, he was correct. My advisors came running just as I was finishing the orders for my generals to issue a DoW to Preussia. It seems I miscalculated by one month :mad: The French/Austrian enforced peace treaty ended today, that ment that issuing a DoW on Preussia would force us into another war with Austria as well. Unfortunately we cannot yet afford a war against both Preussia and Austria where they pay us their full attention. All troops have been ordered to stay put, no DoW is issued.

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/9/2009 10:19:34 AM)
Turn 17 Bickering with Preussia keeps on, but lately Britain has come down off the fence and expressed that they too see all land on the west side of the Rhine as French territory. Now this is a major pain to Preussia, as Britain sends money to Preussia and might stop doing so if angered. We are still short on labor and horses, so two farms are ordered in provinces that allready produces some horses, and we also order two banks built. This means there is no room for more troops to be built this turn. The weighing of the need of more troops vs the need to build our economy is starting to become a major struggle within French internal politics. The situation is anything but gloomy! [image]local://upfiles/11504/6E7CC9A834FA4D489C781B47C74CC9A6.jpg[/image]

morganbj -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/9/2009 4:51:27 PM)
I notice that in your screenie you've allocated 10 points to labor. Did you know that you get one labor even if you allocate nothing, so you're throwing away that 10%? Instead, increase your agriculture to the max. That gives you as much as the additional farm. Then put the other 5% on developments so you get the farm a little quicker. L'économie, l'économie, toujours l'économie.

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/9/2009 10:36:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bjmorgan I notice that in your screenie you've allocated 10 points to labor. Did you know that you get one labor even if you allocate nothing, so you're throwing away that 10%? Instead, increase your agriculture to the max. That gives you as much as the additional farm. Then put the other 5% on developments so you get the farm a little quicker. L'économie, l'économie, toujours l'économie. At 0 the labour is stated to give 0 output?!

lenin -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/11/2009 5:23:39 AM)
You should get +1 Labour even with 0 allocation.

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/11/2009 6:37:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lenin You should get +1 Labour even with 0 allocation. Yea seems so. New in the patch? Could have sworn that did not use to be that way. I REALLY need to play the AI again now that the patch is out. Terje

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/11/2009 6:43:27 AM)
Turn 18 A pidgeon arrives carrying the letter seen below. Apart from that, nothing much happens this turn, we make some adjustment to all our cities to maximize production. This gives us some more food, a few more horses, some spice and some luxuries per turn. Two farms, one barrack, one bank were built. Again on the expense of new military units. But food production is getting better now, we now produce enough food to expand our population by two points per turn. This is the same ammount of population that is used by creating an INF division, so this is good news. Population increase is spread out amongst all our provinces, with the province with the most room for expansion growing first. [image]local://upfiles/11504/351B994F4A78408C9B8D184B5F0A10EC.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/12/2009 8:11:04 AM)
Turn 19 The deal with Preussia goes through, and the European borders are redrawn, and we gain 2 provinces for the cost of 1 protectorate province. A great deal. Ordinary provinces gives us all of its income while protectorates only gives us part of what they produce. Horses and labour is still the main issue, and this turn it was decided to strengthen the army by ordering another INF division in Paris. Paris still produces the best troops, the only downfall is that Paris is also our main supplier of labour, and building military units steals away population in the city, which again reduces our production output... After we ordered the INF to be built, we had just enough labour to produce one low level barrack (from level one to level two), a low leverl court (again from one to two) and a low level bank (yup, you got it, level one to level two). [image]local://upfiles/11504/29250F905FBE4FE3BE7136E6A5ADBF25.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/13/2009 8:27:54 PM)
Turn 20 All of Europe is at peace. Yet in our palace in Paris we know that all the other major nations are plotting, just like us. To improve our situation further, we order the construction of a farm, a bank and two barracks. That is all our economy allows us to do for now. And we order a new redrawn map of Europe. [image]local://upfiles/11504/E0522B2867494364880091E1389DEADA.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/17/2009 1:25:37 PM)
Turn 21 Another quiet turn. We order the production of two militia divisions. These weak unreliable forces are really no good, but placed in a fortress they do not cost any upkeep, and they force the enemy to stop for a month or two to take out the fortress before advancing. This delay might prove vital if we end up at war with several nations at once. We also make a secret deal with Russia and Turkey. No buildings are ordered as all our labor is used to produce those two militia divisions. [image]local://upfiles/11504/AD04B37EE8FA407FB8873DE4E5D10B6A.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/18/2009 9:50:02 AM)
Turn 22 These are quiet times, nothing much happens anywere. Like boxers we watch eachother carefully wondering who will strike the first punch and where the strike will land. A count of all our provinces reveals that we hold 27 provinces, that is getting close to the magic number of 30. [SPOILER]At 31 provinces we get 4% waste in all our provinces.[/SPOILER] This means we need to expand our court system, so we order the production of 4 courts this turn, amongst them, one is ordered in Paris. This means that when Paris is done expanding its courts, no waste will ever be experienced in Paris as the citys courtlevel will be at 5, which eliminates waste in that province. We also take some time to expand our merchant ships, they do a great job for us! [image]local://upfiles/11504/8169A6CCD6724424B886A743FD2524CA.jpg[/image]

ShaiHulud -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/19/2009 9:56:22 AM)
You seem to be blessed by your opponent's various strategies. The gift of bloodless wars that also granted you so many worthwhile provinces is almost unfathomable. Austria has given Russia reason to find common cause with you for where but in Poland is Russia to expand? Chipping at the margins in Sweden is anything but profitable and attacking Turkey through narrowly channeled borders seems, also, unrewarding. England has done the same by taking the lion's share of Denmark and severely limiting Sweden's scope for expansion. Now, England also gives Prussia cause for grievance by placing Brunswick in her sphere. Neither of these moves appear advisable for England cannot really protect those areas against ANY Continental power for very long. It will be interesting to see if France can make herself the benefactor of the downtrodden against Perfidious Albion and the anti-Republicans of Austria. [;)]

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/19/2009 9:58:09 AM)
Turn 23 As has been the standard now, nothing much goes on. Our population increases by two due to good food production, and we order two courts and two farms to be built. Preussia tries to coup some of the minor german nations, and it backfires. Brunswick feels that to be a challenge of their superiority and they seek protection with Britain. A major concern now, is the fact that Spain is growing into the major power in Europe. Of all nations to wage war against, only Russia is worse than Spain. While the Russians are a pain due to long distances and winter effects, Spain spawns alot of guerilla troops. And the fact that Britain has stated that she will DoW anyone that DoWs Spain makes it an even harder nut to crack... [image]local://upfiles/11504/718826EF74C4431B9A780809225B0430.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/19/2009 10:02:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaiHulud You seem to be blessed by your opponent's various strategies. The gift of bloodless wars that also granted you so many worthwhile provinces is almost unfathomable. Austria has given Russia reason to find common cause with you for where but in Poland is Russia to expand? Chipping at the margins in Sweden is anything but profitable and attacking Turkey through narrowly channeled borders seems, also, unrewarding. England has done the same by taking the lion's share of Denmark and severely limiting Sweden's scope for expansion. Now, England also gives Prussia cause for grievance by placing Brunswick in her sphere. Neither of these moves appear advisable for England cannot really protect those areas against ANY Continental power for very long. It will be interesting to see if France can make herself the benefactor of the downtrodden against Perfidious Albion and the anti-Republicans of Austria. [;)] Hehe well alot of weird choices have been made indeed. My main concern is Spain, she controls almost all of N.Africa. However due to the deal I was able to make with Turkey and Russia, they will not DoW me nor eachother. Turkey keeps asking if I want to trade and I accept. She is selling me wool and textiles for money. I find it strange however that Britain has decided to fund Preussia. That cannot possible be to my advantage. If Britain wants to ride two horses she might find that it is very easy to fall of.. Only downfall to my economy is the low output of labor (only 20 per turn). Terje

ShaiHulud -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/19/2009 10:40:39 AM)
You have several provinces that can be prompted to provide more labor. This assumes that you've not already rejected that idea. Inducing a war between Turkey and Spain over Africa would probably grind Spain down considerably without availing Turkey too great rewards. Spain's fleets can protect her islands easily and Turkey's land connection, though SLOW, would guarantee her superiority in Africa. An excellent strategy to sidetrack both for an extended period, if it can be attained.

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/19/2009 11:10:23 AM)
Yes, I could produce more labour, but then I would have to produce less food which again slows down the building of my armies. So it is really a lose-lose situation

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/24/2009 1:05:18 PM)
Turn 24 There has been some talk between Spain, Britain and myself as to the future of Piedmont. Plainly put, they do not have any. Well, atleast not as an independent nation. We will DoW them and keep their continental provinces, while Spain gets to keep their Med provinces. Britain has been informed just so she does not think we are trying to pick a war with Spain. So, all we do this turn is to move our main army closer to Piedmont to prepare for battle. We also start the construction of two farms, two courts and a barrack. (OOC: One of the players had his PC die on him, so we are not moving too fast atm) [image]local://upfiles/11504/E6B65CCCE7134C48B8F281536890EE08.jpg[/image]

Harvey Birdman -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/26/2009 2:05:59 PM)
The Duke of Wellington would consider Mus to be the "scum of the earth" for giving you the west bank of the rhine. What's your inflation rate/unit cost increase factor at. France 1792 seems to get a lot of inflation events. Like 5% chance a turn and the thermidor reaction. I went from 26% to 126% in 3 years. It affects unit costs: money, labour? horses iron timberand textiles and the money part of developments. [:D] Soon you won't be able to save up textiles to buy good units and you'll be stuck buying vanilla infantry, cavalry and artillery.

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/27/2009 1:14:37 AM)
My unit cost inc is at 22%. And I am actually allready short of anything but money and food hehe. My main concern is that I produce the best units in Paris, but that is also my main labour production site, and producing troops costs labour and population. By reducing population I produce less labour...It is an annoying circle I'll tell you! Terje

Harvey Birdman -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/27/2009 2:40:40 AM)
Hmmmmm France 1792 starts 26%. So your down 4%???????? That's why I put allocate labour in paris at 75% luxuries/ 25% labour. I have antwerp and lille at 75% textiles / 25% labour and use strasbourg as a swing labour iron producer.

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/27/2009 9:38:34 PM)
That is what I will do eventually, but I need to get rid of unrest in some of my provinces first. I will also reduce food production eventually, I just need to build my population up a little more. Terje

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/30/2009 8:30:12 AM)
Turn 25 We are back on track [&o] Alot of things happens this turn. First of all we are asked by King Mus of Britain to attack and destroy some Swedish privateers in the English channel as the Brits themselves cannot attack them due to a peacetreaty. We are happy to oblige, sinking some privateers should bring us some glory as well as a few experience points for our naval arm. We then decide that it is time to alter the maps of Europe once more, and we declare war on Piedmont. Our army is ordered to take up position to be ready to invade next month. Riots have ended in Flanders, and to our delight we manage to produce a few horses in that province, a greatly needed resource. We also order a farm and two courts to be built. We really need to focus on the courts now, we are closing the 30 province limit really fast. And once more we hand out alot of money to other nations, who said that buying friends do not work? The nations of Spain, Turkey, Russia, Switzerland and Genoa all recieve 30$ from us this turn. That is 150$ from a net income of some 250 so there is no need to worry, we still make a healthy profit which means we still have alot of room to expand our armies. Now all we need is to improve the income of labour, textiles and horses.... [image]local://upfiles/11504/C7C9D7B8D62E477D8F2BB47BBA1DE1E1.jpg[/image]

Harvey Birdman -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/31/2009 7:10:38 AM)
I think the revolution event is the trigger for inflation events for france. So what's it gonna be napppie439: 1. prussia then sweden or spanish protectorates in italy. or 1. italy then Prussia & Sweden, Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm Prussia lots of yummy wool/textiles jager infantry and easily digestible vs spanish guerilla pain in the butt?

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/31/2009 2:07:00 PM)
Turn 26 So, we order our troops to corss the broder into Piedmont, but the generals reply that the terrain is so hard that they might not succeed in reaching the assigned area. This is not good, as we have spotted an Preussian Army on our border. For some reason (call me paranoid) I doubt they are merely sightseeing... The good news is that Piedmont did NOT ask Spain to become her protector. But to keep Spain pleased I will hand over Sardinia after we have defeated Piedmont nontheless. We hand out the same ammount of money to the same nations this turn as we did last turn, just money is worthless, might as well try to buy some friends. We decide not to build anything this turn, instead we preserve our labour for next month, and then we will order the construction of a new factory in Paris. This will increase our labour output, so in the long run it should be well worth the resources poured into it. Our fleet promptly sank the Swedish privateer and headed back to Brest. All our ships are now gathered in Brest. If we have to fight a naval battle, we want to bring our entire fleet, and not send the different squadrons in piecemeal. [image]local://upfiles/11504/80587707BCF14F2E95B05A63C486F40D.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (7/31/2009 2:10:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Harvey Birdman So what's it gonna be napppie439: 1. prussia then sweden or spanish protectorates in italy. or 1. italy then Prussia & Sweden, Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm Prussia lots of yummy wool/textiles jager infantry and easily digestible vs spanish guerilla Xunts? Well. Either action is likely to get me into a war against the rest of Europe I'm afraid. When I conquer Piedmont I will have to raise some havoc in the pbem109 thread in the LFO forum. Will see how people react. Britain has told me that he will go to war over Spain, Sweden, Preussia and Turkey. So if I am to tackle any of the nearby nations, I will end up at war with Britain. But "the boot" always looks nice [;)] Terje

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (8/1/2009 8:04:12 AM)
Turn 27 Two minor nations decide that they need protection. Genoa asks us to be their protector, we agree of course. Piedmont decides to ask Spain for help after all, I have sent a mail to Spain asking how we go on from here. Spain has allready agreed that Piedmont and Savoy are to be considered French territory, but does he want a show case war or does he simply want to hand the provinces over quietly? We continue to hand out money, Spain, Turkey, Russia and Switzerland all recieve 50$ this turn. No need to pay any more to Genoa now that they are our protectorate. Paris sees a new factory being ordered, and scattered around the nation we order the production of a level 5 court, a level 3 court and a level 2 court. At level 5 the court makes sure that no waste takes place in that province, so this is the max level we will build any court to. Again we do not have the labour to expand our armies, this is something that is a big worry actually. We are falling behind in the arms race, we will need to build another division next turn. [image]local://upfiles/11504/4091BBB062064A78BBAA902B8FE37C11.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Do you hear the people sing?! (8/3/2009 7:48:36 PM)
Turn 28 Spain offers us Piedmont and Savoy in a diplomatic deal, we accept of course. Once more we hand out money to the "normal" nations, but we will now tell all major powers that we need to reduce this ammount a little. We want to have a bigger stockpile of money, as our stockpile is now around 200, while Britain's is at 2500. We order the production of a level 3 court and a barrack. Also ordered is an INF division in Paris, we need to expand our army. We have the option to buy 56 different upgrades for our army and navy, but chose not to do so. Instead we save the upgrade points for one of the more expensive upgrades. We then take a brief look at our current upgrades, these are upgrades we start the game with. [image]local://upfiles/11504/528D8B1669224DF99875BEDC4F669E75.jpg[/image]

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