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ORIGINAL: Historiker

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If we can ever charge naval points (and with that get the option accelerate/stop) conversions, then I will definately include both types, in addition to the historical hybrids.

Is it sure this doesn't work? I once heard this will be possible in AE but still have no clarification as the active AE members only occasionally answer my questions...

What I've forgotten:
If you choose the "Soviet-Jap Treaty is still in affect" option, the additional oil mustn't be added by oil wells, the produced oil by the soviet wells must arrive in the most northern Japanese Base as reinforcement "off map". The wells are in soviet territory and its most unlikely that the allies bomb them while sending lend lease goods to vladivostok...

Consequently, this oil has to be immune to bombing!

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The idea of 'add it later' armour is an interesting concept, and one the IJN sort of did with Hiei during her conversion to a training ship, where her armour and guns were reduced and added back on later. In this AU both Kongo and Hiei have this done, Hiei as a training ship and Kongo as a target.

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ORIGINAL: Historiker

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The idea of 'add it later' armour is an interesting concept, and one the IJN sort of did with Hiei during her conversion to a training ship, where her armour and guns were reduced and added back on later. In this AU both Kongo and Hiei have this done, Hiei as a training ship and Kongo as a target.

So you can use this trick for treaty ships to increase their power after the abandoning of the treatys. The Mogamis and the whole shaddow ships program were constructed with a philosophy that might well include such ideas.

In Germany, a byword is "Where is a will, there is a way". If Japan really wants to cheat, it can cheat. On a long rear of a BB, an empty barbette my be fittet and just planks put over it. This saves weight and looks like an ordinary ship with just 4 turretes, in case of war the planks are removed and an already combat ready turret is added. THings like this were never done, but is this really a reason to declare it impossible? By doing so, you can weight and still have much stronger ships after a short time in the shipyards.



To the "naval point conversions": The required shipyard is several times above 10, especially when ships are converted to a totally differend kind of ship like the CHitoses. In this case, it is often 25. I hope and haven't tested so far that this means the ship is added to the building list and the conversion costs 25. This has to be tested though.

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ORIGINAL: Historiker

The question remains whether they have to be paid for while the ship stays on the map. Does the chitose conversion disappear from map or does it stay? Have you tested whether it costs something?

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One idea I did have was make the extensive (Ise/Fuso fast BB conversions, ect) require, say, 150 repair yard size. This way, if the player wants to do this, he would have to invest supplies in increasing the capacity of his repair yards before he can do that (Largest Japanese is ~100 right now).

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ORIGINAL: csatahajos

I'm really looking forward to both versions of your mods, I only regret that you omitted the South Dakota class on the USN side, but it's understandible.

Do you plan to change the lesser ships as well (ie CAs, CLs)?

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BTW there was a Montana class preliminary design, BB-65-8 that fits in nicely with your Illinois class.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/s-file/s511-13.jpg

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IJN is gonna have an inferiority complex for the 30's.

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ORIGINAL: Historiker

wasn't bofors selling it to everyone interested?

The rest is reasonable (at least to witp terms) and I'm really looking forward to play your mod. I hope that some of my ideas have found your interest.
How long does it take you to design a shipmodel?

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As in the artwork, or running some numbers and getting a feel for whats reasonable for a design?

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A 30 knot design would look like this;

980ft x 115ft x 35ft
63,100t standard
71,000t full load

4 x 3 x 16in/50 - two fore, two aft, superfiring
2 x 3 x 5.5in/60 - two on ends, superfiring as in Yamato
4 x 2 x 5.5in/60 - two per side
8 x 2 x 5in/40 - four per side, elevated as in Yamato

Belt - 14in (355mm)
Deck - 7.5in (190mm)
Turrets - 20.5in (520mm)
Tower - 18.1in (460mm)

Speed - 30.3 knots @ 175,000hp
Range - 11,500nm @ 15 knots using 7,150tons of fuel

So yes, my estimate of it being comparable in size to the historical Yamato is correct.

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ORIGINAL: steveh11Matrix

I strongly suggest you get hold of Springsharp: http://www.springsharp.com/ and design your ships using that. The 3.03 beta is stable and creates good design data that can be transferred to the WitpEditor well.

Be wary of such things as switching out 8" guns for 11" ones, ar just "adding another turret" as has been suggested here. I think a Naval Architect might fall over laughing at the second, while the first is certainly possible (Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were, as I understand it, meant to have a similar conversion for larger guns) but it plays havoc with ship trim and seaworthiness if not correctly set up.

Steve.

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The suggestion of 'adding a turret' to an existing hull is an absurd one, but building a ship with an extra barbette and then decking it over and ballasting the ship, and then later uncovering it and installing said turret, isnt so outrageous. It obviously works best with turrets closer to the center of the ship, but with appropriate planning it should be possible.´

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ORIGINAL: csatahajos

Probably not the most professional solution but why don't you just use existing artwork to speed up things? I mean do the programming of the ship classes etc and do the separate upgrades for them then later on you can put in the artwork stuff. I've msoat of what you need from Fremen and BigB and Dixie, though not AE style that's true.