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Mike Solli -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/3/2009 5:15:09 PM)

Also note that I've always been really slow with my first turn.  I think I try to do much more than the typical JFB on turn one.  Much of what I do can easily be done later in that month with no real negative effect on the game.



witpqs -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/3/2009 5:42:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Definitely a bit premature. [:D] Years ago, when I was getting a handle on WitP, Mogami sent me one of his first turns.  I never really was able to get a good handle on it.  I think it would be same case here.  Just too much info to wrap one's brain around.  I take it in small chunks and let it go when I'm done.  I try not to make changes because there are times when I look back and can't for the life of me figure out why I did a certain thing.  All by itself, one thing doesn't make sense, but it does when looked at in conjunction with the rest of that facet.  The problem is that the rest of that particular event may include a dozen or more TFs scattered around the map.  Try finding them all. [:D]

Also, remember that I'm not at all experienced with AE.  I bought it on day 1 and have yet to send a turn in anger. [:D]


Sounds like you could use a project manager to keep track of all those little TF's! [:D]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ganttproject/



Mike Solli -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/3/2009 5:52:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Sounds like you could use a project manager to keep track of all those little TF's! [:D]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ganttproject/


I just read the stuff on that website. [sm=dizzy.gif]



LarryP -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/3/2009 9:57:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Sounds like you could use a project manager to keep track of all those little TF's! [:D]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ganttproject/


Is this what you grognards use for keeping track of your TF's? I have needed something and so I downloaded this program. So far it looks good.

Do you keep tasking out of the game to this data and then back? [&:] Or run two PC's?



witpqs -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/3/2009 10:14:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LarryP

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Sounds like you could use a project manager to keep track of all those little TF's! [:D]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ganttproject/


Is this what you grognards use for keeping track of your TF's? I have needed something and so I downloaded this program. So far it looks good.

Do you keep tasking out of the game to this data and then back? [&:] Or run two PC's?



Larry - that post was a joke (hence the laughing smiley!). But, seriously, you could use a program like that for helping to organize larger operations. That would help with getting various units ready and converging on time, etc. It's certainly more extra work so I wouldn't bother for everything nor for, say, all supply convoys.



LarryP -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/3/2009 10:26:39 PM)

I figured it was the program of choice for managing all those pesky tf's. [:)] I have read posts of guys using Excel, but that seems too elaborate. Oh well...

My problem is that with so many tf's, I forget what some of them were supposed to do.



chrisol -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/3/2009 10:32:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LarryP

My problem is that with so many tf's, I forget what some of them were supposed to do.


... (I'm guessing you've thought of this)... why don't you name the TF after what their mission is ??

Chris



LarryP -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/3/2009 10:36:32 PM)

Yeah I do that too, but some of the names are not really long enough for the info I would like to store. Even though 25 characters are allowed. That works for most but not all of what I want to store. Maybe I'm too old to play this game? [:D] [&:]



Swenslim -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/4/2009 6:02:47 PM)

So, no patch till next week ? This is bad :(



kaleun -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/4/2009 6:44:52 PM)

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Maybe I'm too old to play this game?


Or not old enough.[:-]



LarryP -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/4/2009 7:55:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kaleun

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Maybe I'm too old to play this game?


Or not old enough.[:-]


Hey, I like that answer.[:)]



Terminus -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/4/2009 9:54:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Swenslim

So, no patch till next week ? This is bad :(


No, it's not. It's slightly annoying, but not bad.



Smeulders -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 12:04:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus


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ORIGINAL: Swenslim

So, no patch till next week ? This is bad :(


No, it's not. It's slightly annoying, but not bad.


What are you saying Terminus, not having a patch is not just bad, it's perfectly catastrophic. In fact, if you don't send a team of programmers over to my house immediately to fix minor annoyances, the world will be destroyed in ways that even the writers of 2012 wouldn't dream of.



Terminus -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 12:06:43 AM)

Like I said, "slightly annoying".



witpqs -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 12:16:40 AM)

But think of the kittens...



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Terminus -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 12:21:12 AM)

Oh dear, here we go again.

Listen up. We're in the process of finishing a new build, incorporating the public beta feedback.

No, I can't tell you when it'll be finished.

No, I can't tell you if this new build will be the official patch 2.

We're working on it, and getting closer every day. We're not procrastinating, or hanging on to things because we don't want to share our toys.

Once it's done to our satisfaction, you'll get what we have.



jwilkerson -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 12:27:56 AM)

One simple reason no single person knows exactly when a patch will be done - is the development team controls the timeframe up until the point where they are done - then they had over the data, art and code to Matrix who then does the final release process. So in our case, Matrix does not know when the AE Team will be done (we don't either but at least we are the ones doing it!) then once we get done, we do not know when Matrix will be done (and they probably also don't - but at least they are doing it!).

At this point I'm 99% sure final patch 02 public release will be next week - but can't say for sure what day.




witp1951 -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 12:56:12 AM)

Thanks for the update!



tbridges -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 1:04:08 AM)

Thanks Joe, appreciate the update. That's all we really want, a reasonable response to our reasonsable questions... [sm=00000436.gif][sm=00001746.gif]



Fletcher -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 1:36:11 AM)

Thank you very much for the update.




rockmedic109 -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 1:42:22 AM)

Thank you for all your hard work guys. 

And thank you for the updates.  I look forward to the new patch and appreciate all your hard work.

No, this is not a brown-nosing plug to get the patch sooner.  There just seems to be more "are we there yet" posts than posts showing appreciation of your hard work.



Venividivici10044 -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 1:52:28 AM)

Terminus and all the devs,

All I can say is thanks for making a fun game; it may not be perfect but it sure beats playing the board game! Happy Holidays to all of you as well as everyone on the boards!


VVV



stuman -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 1:53:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Also note that I've always been really slow with my first turn.  I think I try to do much more than the typical JFB on turn one.  Much of what I do can easily be done later in that month with no real negative effect on the game.


I do the exact same thing.



Erik Rutins -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 2:26:44 PM)

Just to chime in from the Matrix side, a release next week seems 99% likely to me as well,



jwilkerson -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 2:31:24 PM)

As to the Kamikaze issue which has been reported. We are looking at that. Personally I would rather not push out patch 02 to wait for the Kamikaze issue resolution - if we do - then likely patch 02 would be delayed until after the USA year end holidays due to various resource scheduling issues - so the alternative is to go with patch 02 as it is and do a patch 03 with the Kamikaze fix as soon as it can be ready in January. I'll talk to Erik about that and give an update once we have a decision.




Yakface -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 2:36:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs

But think of the kittens...



[image]local://upfiles/14248/7226DB5639B7437B8B746221F9FE47FF.jpg[/image]


Pastry lid - middle shelf, 1 hour, gas mark 4.



moose1999 -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 3:11:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Yakface


quote:

ORIGINAL: witpqs

But think of the kittens...



[image]local://upfiles/14248/7226DB5639B7437B8B746221F9FE47FF.jpg[/image]


Pastry lid - middle shelf, 1 hour, gas mark 4.

Remember to steam-cook them first for 5 minutes.
That'll make them so much easier to skin.
And remember thyme.
Kittens are great with thyme.



LarryP -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 3:19:49 PM)

The last time I had kitten fricassee the recipe called for diced dachshund. Not only does it taste marvelous, it shuts the little twits up.



PaxMondo -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 3:27:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

As to the Kamikaze issue which has been reported. We are looking at that. Personally I would rather not push out patch 02 to wait for the Kamikaze issue resolution - if we do - then likely patch 02 would be delayed until after the USA year end holidays due to various resource scheduling issues - so the alternative is to go with patch 02 as it is and do a patch 03 with the Kamikaze fix as soon as it can be ready in January. I'll talk to Erik about that and give an update once we have a decision.




I would support "go with patch 02 as it is and do a patch 03 with the Kamikaze fix as soon as it can be ready in January."

Given the large number of items being caught and fixed here for patch 2, if the team is willing to do a patch 03, I would be willing to bet a large, frothy beverage that a few more things will come up in the patch 02 release. Seems like just from the beta to the release the notes will be at least one page long. That's quite a bit in my experience.



rockmedic109 -> RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 (12/5/2009 3:35:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LarryP

The last time I had kitten fricassee the recipe called for diced dachshund. Not only does it taste marvelous, it shuts the little twits up.

I love cats. I just can't eat a whole one by myself. I hadn't thought of kittens. Thanks for the tip![:D]

On a related note {kittens}, I was driving north of my city through a agricultural area one night and in a space of a mile I nearly ran into three different Owls. Then I got an idea!

Lawnchair....Check
Icechest full of beer......Check
Box full of kittens......Check

Sit back, relax, toss a few brews while watching the owls eat.



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