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wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (10/18/2009 12:08:01 PM)
in the last picture you can see that I reacted with lots of forces against a big incoming raid...but that was a bait [X(] [image]local://upfiles/16527/0BB67B4453284E20AFCB93879445CF7D.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (10/18/2009 12:08:44 PM)
and now my sites pay for that [image]local://upfiles/16527/8F7355DA7F784B808733214DFDBDE4B4.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (10/18/2009 12:10:38 PM)
Kevin continued his raids during dawn ( with LF 5 hitting two ports) and during the night with several raids......I suspect that some of his bomber units fly twice or even trice a day. here the losses of the day [image]local://upfiles/16527/1102700640EF46568D0F4776B56A7826.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (10/18/2009 12:11:59 PM)
here Kevin´s attack efforts ( bombing missions)........ [image]local://upfiles/16527/4E74437E45754ABBBA0F7A85F5F83402.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (10/18/2009 12:16:50 PM)
and here my A/F situation...... I had to pull out 4 squadrons from the south after this turn ( all with a morale under 50)....and I moved two fresh units south (90+morale) [image]local://upfiles/16527/D7382D066E9E403BB8C153E40936E955.jpg[/image]

otisabuser2 -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (11/3/2009 10:56:19 AM)
Hi Swift, was interested to see Kevin's broader selection of targets. Particularly the Ports ? Think he should post his side on a seperate AAR report, for comparison by us neutrals. regards Otis

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (11/3/2009 3:31:38 PM)
just ask Kevin.....[8D]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (11/28/2009 2:08:38 PM)
8/22/40 Kevin still keeps my Radar down.....no working radars left on the channel coast [:(] The Germans fly 24 bombing missions against Radar, a/f and industrila targets. His effort cost him 49 a/c vs 3 of my own [8D] (14x He111, 10x Bf110 and 11 Ju88) Fighter command has 16 active aces with James E McComb of the 611 Sqn leading the top scorer list with 7 kills.

Jugjock -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/2/2009 7:20:47 AM)
Swift, Would you be so kind as to post some comments regarding your strategy for placing AA and barrage balloons? Do you see any trends or results from your placements that would be worthy of sharing with us newbies? Are there any adjustments that you would now make if you could replay some of the earlier turns? Also, how are you posting your patrols, given the sorry state of your HC radar? Have you come up with any effective deployments, or possible strategies that you’d recommend? The amount of damage you’re inflicting on the Luftwaffe is staggering, nevertheless, I’m on the edge of my seat waiting to see if you can hold on during the first month and avoid an air superiority defeat. Given the full court press Kevin is throwing at you it appears he’s aiming for an early victory regardless of the cost.

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/2/2009 7:23:10 PM)
Hi Jugjock, you only have limited points for deploying the AA in BoB ( 100 compared to the 500 in BtR)......very often I need most of the points for moving sqns around. The AA I deployed is mostly on the primary and coastal A/Fs....and to a few radar sites ( here often light or medium AA, because he uses Stuka or low lvl raids on them) Balloons......I use them normally for coastal targets away from my A/Fs.......often very historically on ports and OILS. Patrols.......I am not able to defend my radar sites...and also the coastal sites...so I use patrols to detect medium to high level raids ( there is a certain detection window in which a patrol detects raids ).....I try to intercept raids that go to the London area and to my inland primary A/Fs. Patrols are in various altitudes from 6k to 25k......and there are around 5 to 10 4a/c patrols in the air all the time if the radio chatter detector is above 100....if it is lower I stand down my units, or I fly fewer patrols or do some recce chasing. My main tactic at the moment is guerilla air warfare.......hit Kevin whenever I am sure that I kill more than I lose. I try to gang up more interceptors to distract the Bf109s and with a few high exp and high morale pilots I go after bombers and Zerstörer. Kevin knows the game very well....lots of tweaking was done because Kevin was (and often still is) able to do unbelieveable damage with his units.......but he also knows that I am well aware of all aspects of the game [8D] ( BoB and BtR were installed on all my computers since those games were released....and thats more than 10 years now!!) I am not sure that Kevin is still aiming at an early AS victory.....he started to attack many other targets in the last turns..... ciao Werner

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 9:53:40 AM)
8/23/40......The radar situation is still very bad, but I am able to move some medium and light AA to those sites....I hope they will make some kills....but I also think that they wont stop Kevin.... [image]local://upfiles/16527/1E3AFE21EB074DA0995AE3A2950CBFC1.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 9:57:50 AM)
here are my patrol zones in the morning - the Dover patrol was able to kill three reccce planes and the Exeter patrol was able to intercept some fighters and bomber before they dropped their bombs on an A/F [image]local://upfiles/16527/8D2BE55FDCA44351B17D40A1AB0D7408.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:01:02 AM)
here you can see a sequence of Kevin raids.........the German units of his Exeter raid are back at the French coast....another raid has just hit an radar site.....and an interesting raid is closing in over the North Sea - it seems to be small and unescorted.... [image]local://upfiles/16527/1AF5A36598494093A6E37E4FB777A345.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:02:34 AM)
we close in on this raid and hit it hard - a few cheap kills [8D] [image]local://upfiles/16527/63EB4BE99D2E40AE8144837468FB7EEF.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:06:49 AM)
and now the radar picks up a new raid.....Luftflotte 5 comes out to play..........air warning messages went out to all northern squadrons.......everything with a good chance to get close to the raid near our coast went into the air [:D] - more cheap kills [image]local://upfiles/16527/5131DE119BB94626924A53A045D39B17.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:08:48 AM)
Tally-ho!!!! [image]local://upfiles/16527/B327B4FCF10B48AF98D306314998094D.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:10:41 AM)
after that two more unescorted raids were incoming.........only one of them was intercepted..... [image]local://upfiles/16527/6FCE18A0C0DE4E598EE8CEC10BA17BF6.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:12:35 AM)
I am very happy with the turn.....30+ kills for zero losses [image]local://upfiles/16527/32DF80920A5C4701942658D2292B9121.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:14:28 AM)
My Hurricane units start to recover.....soon all are back to full A/C strength.....and the morale of most units is still high. You can also see the kills and losses of my Hurricane units. [image]local://upfiles/16527/B6A2326BED714181BEC62B98D61CA42F.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:16:36 AM)
and here you can see the Spitfire units. You can see that I use as many A/Fs as possible - BC bases are also used by FC all the time. [image]local://upfiles/16527/A766A3B20BFF4FE0A798E9EAA829A345.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:18:28 AM)
overview of Kevin´s raids......you can see that that all his raids suffered to some degree....but also that all raids were able to get some bombs on their targets [:(] [image]local://upfiles/16527/4EF3D1F766A44DACB469A179B64FAA2C.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/6/2009 10:20:27 AM)
and here is the information screen......you can see that the AA is quite good and kills more than one quarter of the total score.......many of the damaged A/C also crashed into the sea..... [image]local://upfiles/16527/DC212AA3AB9F421EA87A7F0600E5DC06.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/20/2009 8:49:16 AM)
8/24/40 Big change of strategy and tactics by the Hun - he still recce´s my RADAR sites and A/Fs......but he starts now heavy attacks on my oil industry with day and night attacks....he is also protecting his raids with tons of escorts.......here a picture of the biggest daylight raid.... [image]local://upfiles/16527/89D151B406304CC3A3F9F07EAF8D2028.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/20/2009 8:50:55 AM)
Because of his "better" protected/escorted tactic, my boys have to fight through the escort screen......and we manage to kill a bunch of Emils [image]local://upfiles/16527/8F20C7A611E84765AE51385C4A3D321A.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (12/20/2009 8:52:41 AM)
and here the few bombing missions he was able to manage - I guess that 40% of his bomber units are well below 50% of their established unit size [8D] [image]local://upfiles/16527/654E27154F0E4664A0B4F84C43C65FAB.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (1/2/2010 12:10:41 PM)
8/25/40 good weather and a quite high radio chatter count - this may be a big day! Because most of the Home Chain is down I have assigned several Sqns to patrol work - we will try to keep the assigned units in the air with sections as long as possible - I need to preserve my forces. Here is a picture of the patrol areas: [image]local://upfiles/16527/F04669FD85BE4B508BB41DD9CB557728.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (1/2/2010 12:13:27 PM)
The enemy starts with a bunch of recce missions and several low level raids against coastal targets (mainly Radar sites - as far as I can tell). I tried to intercept this raids.....aginst most of them I was to late - but I was able to hit two of them hard! [image]local://upfiles/16527/D0A53CB5F46446E38808201655808A75.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (1/2/2010 12:15:22 PM)
Later the main raids to some industrial sites near London were detected far to late for any pre-bombing interceptions.....I had to let the first raid go unharmed. [image]local://upfiles/16527/02A3512EC0574941AC9C46657A45DE77.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (1/2/2010 12:16:27 PM)
But the second raid was not that lucky! [image]local://upfiles/16527/8B5CC601E7F94ED48A83A5CD128F18D4.jpg[/image]

wernerpruckner -> RE: BoB - Swift vs Kevin (1/2/2010 12:19:06 PM)
And my boys are very lucky while hitting this raid - The enemy fighters do not real seem to happy to go between my interceptors and his bombers......maybe they are low on morale or maybe Kevin made a mistake with the escorts [8D] [image]local://upfiles/16527/AA61D2DBCA7640E8BB24DC17EA255284.jpg[/image]

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