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Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/13/2010 9:46:04 AM)

same date, Jan 44




vimconfused -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/13/2010 8:35:51 PM)

Thanks.

Industry: I vaguely remember from USAAF (I think, its been a few years) that German industry grew randomly on a small percentage chance. Does that happen in this game or are all production increases factored in advance.

Secondly, I see that after bomb damage, certain production lines are moved. Do they replace other types of existing or planned production in their new location, or are they additional (presumably after several days delay)?




Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/14/2010 5:27:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vimconfused

Thanks.

Industry: I vaguely remember from USAAF (I think, its been a few years) that German industry grew randomly on a small percentage chance. Does that happen in this game or are all production increases factored in advance.

going by what Harley has told me, yes, Sites can grow, now, what the % needed (dieroll) I do not know, and would think it is pretty low, so, it can, but don't expect a site to go from 10 to 20 any time soon

Secondly, I see that after bomb damage, certain production lines are moved. Do they replace other types of existing or planned production in their new location, or are they additional (presumably after several days delay)?

(ahh, one of my favorite words, that is dispersial, some of the key industry, when damaged to 50% or over, will disperse, there are unseen/unbuilt sites, that will become new factories, when a main factory is damaged (so say that size 10 EFAC gets nailed (there is also a chance that part of the production numbers can be outright destroyed, so that size 10, may become a size 8 or 9 due to damage, and since it is over 50% there is a chance it will break down)

soooo, a target will become a FAC, and the production will go to new sites, which will take about 20-30 days or so, to become ready (size of new site can be between 1 and 3)

(Offhand, I remember AFAC/EFAC and BB as being sites that will disperse, there may be other ones that I am forgetting right now)

(a oddity here, is, in the target list, so say at the start of the day, EFAC shows 1200 and 0, so, (1200 points of production/value and 0 % of it is damaged) now you hit good, the two large EFAC's which would be a 10 and a 15, totally crippling them, and they break down, when you look at the target list, it will show you say, 1050 and 0, those two sites are now FAC, so, don't show up as EFAC damage)

again, when I try to explain something, at times, I make it more confusing then it was





Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/14/2010 5:56:19 AM)

okay, lets try this

I target Bussing NAG (I also went to the big DB plant, but pretty much missed)

here is the intel target list from the Axis side (info is good)

[image]local://upfiles/1438/28628075955147C094A5ED8159196825.jpg[/image]




Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/14/2010 5:57:09 AM)

and this is the Allied intel list, which as you can see, is why we always say to send out recon, most of your starting info, is bad

[image]local://upfiles/1438/B0AF2C87219B42B08EF0611980DE03BE.jpg[/image]




Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/14/2010 5:58:42 AM)

target list after the raid is over

I blew Bussing Nag apart



[image]local://upfiles/1438/E50B7B24E24B496FBC270251F27B7A76.jpg[/image]




Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/14/2010 6:02:02 AM)

the * are targets that are either coming online, or factories that have changed production

so those Ostmarks are not from my bombing raids

the rest are new sites

and he is the production list of sites on delay, it is going to take about 38 days for these new sites to come on line

Bussing Nag is now a size 2 target


[image]local://upfiles/1438/B8C560EF526D4D53ADA3A493FEEF1F37.jpg[/image]




Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/14/2010 6:03:28 AM)

this is what the Axis will see the next day

[image]local://upfiles/1438/84CAE4C34FF046809A7C9B3FBED4901E.jpg[/image]




Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/14/2010 6:04:45 AM)

well, two days later, day one before the raid it is a size 10

day two, it was a size 2

now on day three it is a size 1

but this is what the Allies see

[image]local://upfiles/1438/7EB9E2629A5A43CA8E630FD4D675C3C8.jpg[/image]




Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/14/2010 6:05:56 AM)

on day 4, it is now a FAC, and all production has been moved to someplace else

[image]local://upfiles/1438/5218A5F29C48410DB75FF1554DBDEC24.jpg[/image]




Hard Sarge -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/14/2010 6:07:07 AM)

don't worry about the dates, that is just when I was taking the snapshots

does that explain it better ?




vimconfused -> RE: New Stupid Newbie Questions (2/15/2010 1:37:46 AM)

Yes, it does explain it better.

No, can't quite get my head round the specifics as yet but get the general idea.

Your help is again appreciated. I think I'll try and ask questions in separate threads now I've got the general hang of things (I'm all of turn 30 on the campaign now!)




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