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Wirraway_Ace -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (11/21/2009 11:10:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

Malaya:



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The rail line on the east coast of Malaya makes the Anvil very hard to get in place in time from Kuantan. If your units are not in contact with him in the North, he can switch to strategic mode and easily beat you south to concentrate at Kuala Lumpur.

Not to worry though. If you use mass and combined arms your superior troops will shift him where ever he choses to fight.



SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/2/2009 3:58:28 AM)

The war is progressing along nicely, we've reached Christmas Day in 1941 and so far things seem to be going alright for Imperial forces. China, I'm struggling a bit until I get my assault forces in place. The allies have been very quiet of late, no surface fleet movements, not a whiff of the Carrier TF's, no bombing of bases, but constant sub activity. I think Smeulders is sitting back conserving his forces and waiting, I have no inclination of any objectives he may have at this time other than conserving his forces. I will continue to take bases, but if I continue to find no resistance in areas he'll concede, I may turn to some that he'll have to fight for, or a KB raid to just see what I can find. An early invasion of Midway once the Philippines falls may rattle the cage a little.

My anti-submarine efforts have been dismal to say the least so far, the allied subs get a shot in first and are tending to hit their targets, escorting vessels seldom have launched depth charge attacks in return, and if they do, they are ineffective. I've been taking hits and or losing roughly a ship a day to submarine attack lately, and the most susceptible so far have been my PB's! I lost my first Tanker on the 24th, a small one, but that first one lost...still sucks! My subs are finding targets hard to find, but when they do they are making them count. No big troops ships have been hit from the mainland yet, I'm not sure of his routing, and perhaps I'm not in the shipping lanes, however subs lurking around bases have no sightings either.

Here are screenshots updating the most active theatres of operation:

Malaya:



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SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/2/2009 4:00:17 AM)

The Philippines:


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SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/2/2009 4:00:52 AM)

Celebes Sea:


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SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/2/2009 4:01:23 AM)

South China:


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SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/2/2009 4:02:28 AM)

Japan:


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SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/2/2009 4:03:16 AM)

Aircraft Production:


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SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/2/2009 4:04:45 AM)

Aircraft Production 2:

Thanks everyone for following along, I hope you continue to enjoy, feel free to mention any areas you want information on as well!


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SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/3/2009 7:36:59 PM)

Can it be? At least I know now!


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SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 4:56:54 PM)

Dec. 29/41 Update:

SS Triton sank the xAKL Kitahuku Maru off the coast of Toyohara in a surface attack inflicting 34 hits with 1 torpedo hit thrown in for good measure, however the tranpsort did inflict 3 hits on the submarine causing a fire. the convoy was unescorted. The days of unescorted convoys in home waters are at an end for the Japanese.

Burma: Allied troops at Pegu were bombed by Lily's with 1 being shot down by H81-A3 CAP.

Malaya: Troops continue to march down the peninsula towards Singapore. Japanese units from Kuantan may reach Kuala Lumpur just in time to cut off some Allied units heading South to Singapore. Sweep missions over Singapore airfield resulted in the downing of 3 Buffalo's to the loss of 1 Oscar. Poor results overall, 22 Buffalo's were on CAP initially.

Philippines: Here things are going well for Imperial forces.

Luzon: Air attack by 25 Betty's resulted in ground losses to the Allies at Cabanatuan prior to a ground assault, 2 Betty's were lost to CAP of 2 P40E's. The following Shock Attack by Imperial forces resulted in Allied losses of 5742 troops, forcing a retreat, to the loss of 296 Japanese casualties. Cabanatuan falls to Imperial forces. A Shock Attack on Lingayen results in further Allied losses of 2865 compared with 118 casualties to Japan. Lingayen falls to Imperial might. Manila and Clark Field are the next two objectives, the Allies's failure to mass here in time will result in their quick capture. I want the entire Philippines campaign wrapped up by the end of January.

Mindanao: Mandalay is attacked with a Deliberate Attack, my armour units causes 220 Allied casualties to the loss of 2 AFV's. Troops at Cagayan are consolidating for the drive to Davao, however one Allied ground unit has foolishly moved into the beachhead, it will be dealt with next turn.

The Celebes: Sidate is captured with a Shock Attack inflicting losses of 620 troops to Japan's 57.



SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 6:37:51 PM)

Does anyone fully understand the pilot maintenance changes in the new patch? I'm trying to assign pilots to TRACOM and the various reserves by removing some experienced pilots from squadrons to replace them with inexperienced pilots to train them up in combat. I've heard that you can also dedicate certain squadrons to designated "Training Squadrons" somehow. What I've been doing now is just filling out squadrons in Japan with pilots and assigning them to 70% training, 30% rest. I've read the patch addendum regarding pilots, but feel I'm missing something.

For example, I've put 2 80+ experience pilots into TRACOM, what exactly are they doing? Are they training pilots in my pools? group reserve? general reserve? How do I add pilots to the general reserve and not the group reserve?

I want to get various experienced pilots into my reserves so when I adjust individual squadrons I have a good mix to choose from, right now I have nothing but rookie pilots in the general reserve. Am I looking at this the wrong way?

Also, what is the purpose of putting a pilot into a 180 day rotation?

Thanks in advance, any help or clarification would be greatly appreciated.



Mike Solli -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 8:20:27 PM)

The Training Squadrons have been removed from the official patch 2.  The pilots that go into TRACOM can accelerate the pilots who are being trained up.  Basically some small fraction of them can graduate in less than 12 months but their experience will not be higher.



hmota -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 9:09:17 PM)

hello SqzMyLemon

I want to start a game as japanese and i am thinking about aicraft production...
as for kates and some other aicrafts I think that is not neccesary to upgrade theirs numbers to the level wich I see on the screenshots, personally I prefer to upgrade factories in steps after previously upgraded factories are repaired...

to upgrade production of Zeroes and oscars I want to switch Ki-56 Thalia factory to zeroes and one of Ki-27 nate factory (the one producing 10pcs) to oscars...

donīt know yet which another factory I can switch to these planes...maybe the one which producing sonias after making some reserve...

as for engines I am thinking about changing kotobuki factory to Ha-35 engine...and switching one or maybe two factories which producing aichi Ha-60 to something needed now...



Mike Solli -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 9:15:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hmota
...and switching one or maybe two factories which producing aichi Ha-60 to something needed now...


The only concern with that is that you'll need them about Apr 43 for the Judy. If you spend the supply to switch them now, you're going to have to spend more supply to switch something back later.

Edit: I recommend switching the Ida to something more.......useful.



hmota -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 9:25:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

quote:

ORIGINAL: hmota
...and switching one or maybe two factories which producing aichi Ha-60 to something needed now...


The only concern with that is that you'll need them about Apr 43 for the Judy. If you spend the supply to switch them now, you're going to have to spend more supply to switch something back later.

Edit: I recommend switching the Ida to something more.......useful.


yes but there is 3 factories which produce Ha-60 (80+40+5), I think that it will not hurt to switch at least 5pcs factory to another type... if there will be more demand of Ha-60 so than I expand 40pcs factory...



Mike Solli -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 9:26:32 PM)

Good point. [:D]



hmota -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 9:47:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Edit: I recommend switching the Ida to something more.......useful.


...I like that idea...there comes two grous, 12 planes each in 70 days and another in Feb 44...and there is 31 a/c in the pool and another will come after upgrading groups to Sallys and Helens...and there is 332 pcs of Hitachi(Early) engines in the pool, maybe another engine factory to switch to something else...

..and in adition another plane from my point avaiable for changing production is Sonia...



SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 11:01:56 PM)

Hi hmota,

I'm just learning the Japanese side of the game too, but I have to disagree with you on the production figures you think to be too high for certain aircraft, Kate's in particular. first off we are playing with PDU off, so I don't have the flexibility of upgrades typical for most Japanese players and learning that not everything can be upgraded to what I'd like.

In this PBEM I took almost no air losses at Pearl Harbour, and KB has had no engagements worthy of note since, and you can see that my pools are almost empty in terms of Zero's, Kate's, Val's, and Betty's...this is all with minimal combat losses. Daily flights of Oscars and Zeros to gain air superiority will attrition away your reserve as well. My pools are mostly being drained by upgrading and filling up unit sizes, what's going to happen when I start losing large numbers of aircraft to combat operations? Upgrading air units is a priority for me, you may like to fly around with Claudes, Nate's and Jean's, but I, for one, do not. [;)] Air power will be key for Japan and I want to make sure production can handle the losses I'm about to start taking from further combat operations.

You might as well upgrade now when times are good, they will get better in the short term with new conquests, but there will be the day that I'll be glad I have enough planes in the pools to weather the huge losses I'll be taking. If you don't take a long term view now, you'll get caught with your pants down later. And from what I've seen with changing factory production to newer models, the factories actually get smaller and you produce less planes after switching their production. I'd rather invest in larger factories now producing 100+ planes and still produce say 50+ planes after I switch production, than have a 40+ factory later, upgrade it and produce 20+planes. Of course I'm still figuring this out and don't know the long term effects yet. Just look at anything in history though, if you are not constantly upgrading and investing in new techology early, there comes the day when your enemy outclasses you, because you dropped the ball on utilizing a long term approach, and the production isn't there anymore because your factories are now a pile of rubble. It's happened to great wannabe Empire's throughout history.

That being said, good luck...the dialogue between players trying out the Japanese side is a great way to get better from discussions just like this one. time will tell though.



SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/9/2009 11:12:34 PM)

I did notice though that I'm still producing Nate's, I had thought I'd changed that! [:D] In hindsight after posting this, I guess I still need to produce some...sigh. [:(]



hmota -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/10/2009 7:56:33 AM)

I agree with your point of view about numbers that should be produced, only thing i do diferently is that i expand factories gradualy in steps instead in turn one to so high numbers...donīt know what is better way :)

with the nates you have two factories 10 and 35 pcs...so you may change one or another...personally I think it will be beter to change the smaller one and left the second to produce nates until their engine pool will be empty, then swith it too...



Mike Solli -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/10/2009 5:58:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hmota
with the nates you have two factories 10 and 35 pcs...so you may change one or another...personally I think it will be beter to change the smaller one and left the second to produce nates until their engine pool will be empty, then swith it too...


With PDU off, I agree. With PDU on however, don't waste your HI on Nates. Lemon, you're playing with PDU off, right?



SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/10/2009 6:31:57 PM)

Mike: Yes, PDU is off in this PBEM. I haven't looked at all my Nate squadrons yet, but one I did click on, my only upgrade option was the Nick, which isn't in production yet of course. With my pool of Nate's at zero, looks like in the short term I'll still need to produce the darned things, it's just a question of how many.

hmota: Good point. My initial thinking is change the factory producing 35 to something else, take the downgrade in numbers there, and start building that factory up again. The other can produce 10 until I no longer need the Nate, then change it to a better aircraft.

All I know is that it's only the first month of the war completed and aircraft stocks in some areas are critically low already. I still think you have to invest early and get some decent sized factories up and running. So far my Resource/Oil/Fuel usage is not going down in huge numbers so I think early HI/Supply hits to get these factories going is worth it, with my limited knowledge so far of course. [&:]



SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/10/2009 6:57:20 PM)

A general question for everyone out there. Does anyone move Combined Fleet HQ's out of Kure, and if so where? I'm thinking of moving it to Truk, any benefit really, or can 4th Fleet HQ handle all my fleet needs there, torpedoes and naval support in particular?

Ok, maybe 2 questions [:D] Is it worth upgrading repair facilities at Truk? Or does future Allied bombing make it a better idea to expand facilities in Japan? Actually, I'm not even sure it does have repair facilities? I think it doesn't so a moot point.



Mike Solli -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/10/2009 7:00:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

Mike: Yes, PDU is off in this PBEM. I haven't looked at all my Nate squadrons yet, but one I did click on, my only upgrade option was the Nick, which isn't in production yet of course. With my pool of Nate's at zero, looks like in the short term I'll still need to produce the darned things, it's just a question of how many.


I am playing with PDU off as well. I will continue to build Nates too. Not sure how many either. There are 254 engines available. I don't expect to use them all. Here's the starting Nate units and what they upgrade to:



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hmota -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/10/2009 8:21:23 PM)

still forgeting that this AAR is PDU OFF :)

another idea... what about canceling some RandD that comes in the last month of war? if I compare Ki 202 Shusei and J8M1 Shusei the are almost the same..only diference is one month in time and in armanent (J8M1 have 30mm Type 5 cannon wich have better acc.) so I propose to switch ki 202 Shusei factory to something else...



Mike Solli -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/10/2009 8:24:22 PM)

Hell, you can probably cancel everything from mid-45 on.



hmota -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/10/2009 8:34:21 PM)

:))) yeah this is another point of view :)



SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/11/2009 11:09:19 PM)

Jan. 01/42 Update:

Allied submarine attacks sank an APD Southwest of Saigon and a xAKL South of Wenchow today.

Malaya: A small Deliberate Attack mounted by armoured units of the 25th Army just North of Temuloh caused 463 casualties to the Allies with a loss of 2 AFV's. Japanese troops continue to pursue retreating Allied units, more combat action is expected tomorrow as Imperial Japanese forces have reached the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur.

Philippines:

Luzon: Air Sweeps over Manila by Zero's resulted in the shooting down of 1 P35A, 1 P26A, and 6 P40E's to the loss of 1 Zero. Japanese ground forces are driving towards Clark Field. The Allies seem to have been caught flat footed here, 49,000+ Allied troops are withdrawing from Manila enroute to Clark, they should arrive just in time to get smacked by Imperial forces advancing flush from victory at Lingayen. Allied troops are not concentrated and providing little resistance so far.

Mindanao: Allied troops moving into the beachhead at Cagayan were treated to a Deliberate Attack by defending forces causing 176 casualties to the loss of only 19 defenders. The islands main resistance should be neutralized within the week and mopping up operations will commence. Davao is still in Allied hands, but will fall once ground troops reach it. Supplies and fuel are already enroute for Mindanao. Once Davao falls it will be the muster point for troops and ships forming TF's designated to take the Celebes Islands.

China: Ground operations resulted in a battle with Chinese troops 92 miles North of Chengting. A Shock Attack by Japanese forces resulted in 541 casualties, but the Chinese were forced to retreat with the loss of 3864 troops.

Borneo: Kuching is about to be assaulted by seaborne invasion with troops from Malaya and Sandakan. A large surface fleet of BB's, CA's and DD's to provide shore bombardment and anti-air protection for the invasion transports, air support will be provided by the CV's, Zuikaku and Shokaku. After a brief stint repairing minor damage at Kure, the rest of the Japanese Carrier Fleet is enroute to Truk. CVL's are already based at Truk.

An update on future Japanese objectives for the new year to follow, with screenshots for all active theatres.



bklooste -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/12/2009 3:00:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

A general question for everyone out there. Does anyone move Combined Fleet HQ's out of Kure, and if so where? I'm thinking of moving it to Truk, any benefit really, or can 4th Fleet HQ handle all my fleet needs there, torpedoes and naval support in particular?

Ok, maybe 2 questions [:D] Is it worth upgrading repair facilities at Truk? Or does future Allied bombing make it a better idea to expand facilities in Japan? Actually, I'm not even sure it does have repair facilities? I think it doesn't so a moot point.


Didnt they say HQ Naval support points dont help with loading etc .



SqzMyLemon -> RE: Empire of the Rising Lemon? SqzMyLemon (Japan) v Smeulders (Allies) (12/17/2009 4:21:28 PM)

Just a quick update on the situation in China as of Jan 7/42.

Central China:


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