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Speedysteve -> 25-27th May 1942 (7/4/2010 8:14:33 AM)
Hi all, CBI - For some strange reason the Japanese CV stayed in position west of Ceylon on 25th. A small attack came into Columbo but the Hurri's on CAP perforemd well in shooting down 4 x Zero, 6 x Val for the loss of 6 x Hurri. No bombers attacked Columbo. Frustratingly, in return, none of my Bombers at Columbo attacked the Japanese TF. She's now sailed off somewhere...probably to the SE and home. China - Firstly, Paoshan, west China. The Japanese ARM Rgt's have sat in situ since crossing the river. They're clearly waiting for reinforcements in the form of ART and a further Bde marching from Lashio. I also have reinforcements marching to Paoshan but already have over 500 AV there. Surprisingly, on the 25th, A Para unit occupied the empty base of Chihkiang, central China. Not sure the point of doing this really. It doesn't cut supply and I have several Divisions and Corps over all of China. Unless Faber can fly in a division's worth in a week they won't be able to hold it. The other big event was at Loyang. The Japanese 'stack' had been preparing for an attack for 2 days and on the 27th launched an attack in the face of heavy fire. The engineers managed to reduce some fortifications but made no real headway. Well done men: Ground combat at Loyang (87,43) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 70395 troops, 719 guns, 302 vehicles, Assault Value = 2402 Defending force 109026 troops, 684 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2942 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4 Japanese adjusted assault: 1385 Allied adjusted defense: 2982 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4) Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 10144 casualties reported Squads: 70 destroyed, 516 disabled Non Combat: 58 destroyed, 341 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 64 disabled Vehicles lost 57 (6 destroyed, 51 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1831 casualties reported Squads: 14 destroyed, 238 disabled Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 248 disabled Engineers: 4 destroyed, 20 disabled To compound this failure the door has been shut behind the Japanese and all hexside are now 'green' - i..e. no supplies are getting through to the Japanese. --------------------------------------- Submarine warfare - The only successful attack was by SS Shark in damaging AK Tosei Maru with a torpedo SE of Toyohara. [image]local://upfiles/4211/9DB279533F6F4052AD2AEBD8B3C8A6BA.jpg[/image]

ckammp -> RE: 25-27th May 1942 (7/4/2010 1:40:53 PM)
re: Chihkiang On the face of it, it does seem a rather curious move by your opponent. As you noted, any units at that base not only don't cut you supply routes, but are themselves cut off, save by air supply. Furthermore, he must know that you can bring enough forces in to quickly eliminate his forces. This, I think, is his goal- to get you to commit forces to Chihkiang, while his main attack is directed at Paoshan. In this situation, i would recommend using air power to neutralize/eliminate the force at Chihkiang, while sending LCU reinforcement to Paoshan. I know the overall supply situation in China precludes most prolonged use of Chinese air power, but I think that this should be an exception (if your supply situation does make it possible). If you decide to use a/c, and if you haven't already done so, I would recommend upgrading as many Chinese fighter squads as possible to H81-A3. You have 18 of these planes in the pool at-start, and if you upgrade your AVG squadrons to P-40E, you could gain another (at most) 79 planes. Not only are the H81-A3s better fighters than the I-15/I-16, but they have enough range to be able to reach Chihkiang from Chungking. A tactic I have found effective is to select 1 Chinese fighter squadron, then 'cherry-pick' the remaining squadrons for the best pilots. Equip this squadron with H81-A3s, and use it to counter any Japanese attacks. Keep the remaining squadrons training in I-15s/I-16s, rotating the best pilots to your main fighter squadron. At any rate, the use of a/c will give Fabertong something else to think about.

Speedysteve -> 28-31st May 1942 (7/5/2010 6:10:01 PM)
Hi all, Hi ckammp - makes sense what you say. The thing is it doesn't divert forces that are at the front merely some of the forces that are in the interior on Guard duty anyway. Makes no difference if 2 or 3 Rgt's of a Corps is at Chungking for example[&:] Either way i'm a little baffled as to what Faber thinks he will achieve by it. Afraid the airforce option is a no go. The AVG has been used exclusively in Burma and my units only have 13 x H81's between them left with no replacements left. At present I have the whole of the Chinese airforce in rear areas training with the FG's slowly upgrading to P43A's[8\|] ---------------------------------- CBI - Very little action overall except the Japanese attempted to reinforce their position at Loyang, northern China presumably from the NE. Got a strange combat message though....never seen this before: Ground combat at Loyang (87,43) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1614 troops, 71 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 2046 Defending force 91073 troops, 567 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2356 Assault collapses, survivors seek cover Japanese ground losses: 1368 casualties reported Squads: 75 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 57 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 28 (5 destroyed, 23 disabled) Allied ground losses: 42 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled On the 31st, with the arrival of 148th Infantry Rgt the Japanese tried at Paoshan again: Ground combat at Paoshan (65,45) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 8211 troops, 24 guns, 616 vehicles, Assault Value = 489 Defending force 12617 troops, 98 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 520 Japanese adjusted assault: 309 Allied adjusted defense: 1063 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 3) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 795 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 58 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 87 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 69 (0 destroyed, 69 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1263 casualties reported Squads: 33 destroyed, 102 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 59 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Assaulting units: 5th Tank Regiment 148th Infantry Regiment 56th Recon Regiment 14th Tank Regiment 10th Tank Regiment 1st Tank Regiment 11th Tank Regiment Defending units: 96th Chinese Division 56th Chinese Corps 36th Chinese Division 200th Chinese Division 88th Chinese Division Annoying that I took heavier casualties. Would presume this is due to the high amount of Japanese armour and my lack of defences against it? Anyhow I have the 2 x AT Rgt's in China trundling their way westwards over roads. Other than that southern China is, on hold, until the LCU glitch sorts itself out [:@] Little happening in Burma. ----------------------------------- Other stuff - Lots of nice toys and reinforcements starting to arrive now. 1st USMC Division is heading to Pearl to prepare for operations in the Pacific. There's so frequently convoys heading to and from Aus/USA/Cape Town/Aden/India etc that I don't list them unless something major is on board or happens. 32nd USA Division just arrived at Sydney along with several BF's, ART BN's etc. First B17 raid of the war in Australia occured on the 31st against Japanese held Tennant Creek - 14 x B17's. More to come. ------------------------------------ Submarine warfare - Quiet times continue with 3 missed/dud attacks. The only successful one was by SS KXVI against AK Kiyo Maru, heavily damaging her, outside of Rangoon - 3 subs had been tracking this convoy (38th IJA Division heading to Rangoon) but only 1 attacked[:-] On the flip side the Japanese had a rare success SW of Dutch Harbour. The plucky Row Boat 34 had the audacity to attack twice and sink AK Cold Brook who was carrying elements of 30th Cst AA Rgt.

Speedysteve -> End of May 1942 (7/5/2010 7:00:38 PM)
Hi all, A strange month overall. Most of the focus and action has been in China with a few bases (Cebu/Medan) being mopped up by the Japanese in the SRA. Other than that it's been a month of moving quite a few new assets (mainly planes and LCU's) to Australia and India. Also a noticeable decrease in Sub attacks this months due to the April RADAR upgrades meaning fewer subs were on patrol and the longer distances needed to travel to the battle area also limit time on patrol. June will see the arrival of CV Wasp and BB North Carolina, a few DB and FS's and a couple of Marine Rgt's on the land front. In th air Hurri IIc's and XIIb's come into production. ------------------------------------- Points: Allies: +429 Japanese: +1202 Bases: Allies: -26 (- 10 points) Japanese: +28 (+330 points) Planes: Allies: +210 Japanese shot down Japanese: +164 Allies shot down Troops: Allies: +153 Japanese lost Japanese: +680 Allies lost Ships: Allies: +6 ships (28 points) Japanese: +9 ships (97 points) ---------------------------------------- Sub Kills: Dutch Boats: AK - 17 (+1) CM - 2 PB - 2 (+1) DMS - 3 TB - 1 APD - 1 DD - 2 TK - 1 ---------------------------------------- British Boats: DD - 1 (mine) SC - 1 ---------------------------------------- Fleet Boats: AP - 1 AK - 25 (+1) CM - 1 DD - 2 E - 1 PB - 2 (+2) ---------------------------------------- S-Boats: AK - 6 (+2) DMS - 1 (+1) CM - 1 PB - 1 Total = 72 ships = 45.57% of reported sunk ships total. [image]local://upfiles/4211/949373AF98B844E8A508FDF1FC010246.jpg[/image]

Walloc -> RE: 28-31st May 1942 (7/5/2010 8:18:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Speedy Very little action overall except the Japanese attempted to reinforce their position at Loyang, northern China presumably from the NE. Got a strange combat message though....never seen this before: Ground combat at Loyang (87,43) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1614 troops, 71 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 2046 Defending force 91073 troops, 567 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2356 Assault collapses, survivors seek cover Japanese ground losses: 1368 casualties reported Squads: 75 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 57 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 28 (5 destroyed, 23 disabled) Allied ground losses: 42 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Its a shock attacked forced by moving over a river. They are deadly and since only 1 of the units making the move makes the assult and takes all of the casulties. Pretty sure thats what happend. As only 1 of the units crossing makes the attack the odds are really bad, but i've seen that the combined AV like in above is listed. While the "actual" attack is at very low odds. Hope it helps, Rasmus

Speedysteve -> 1-4th June 1942 (7/6/2010 3:31:23 PM)
Hi all, Hi Rasmus - ah that makes sense. Great that the Japanese unit got smashed to bits. Frustrating though since I think a supply bridge has now been formed through the NE hex of Loyang. -------------------------- CBI - The last few days have seen little combat. The Japanese have resorted to the odd innefectual bombardment at Loyang. A sense of stalemate and rest has swept over China whilst we take on reinforcements before the next bout! On the 4th I smacked about 58th Infantry Rgt NW of Sinyang causing 2000 casualties vs 200 friendlies. I'll check out Sinyang again to see how many troops it has (I have 1600AV in my stack). I re-took an empty Chihkiang....odd move by Faber. In Burma all is quiet except the occassional Blenheim raid on Katha. It seems as though Faber is building up Myitkyina with a reported 60 fighters there. I'll soon deal with them when a P40E FG arrives within 14 days. --------------------------- Australia - More and more of my forces move into place at Alice Springs, Cloncurry and Normanton. Forces on the forntline are about 600AV per base at the mo.. I obviously have the rest of the Australian Divisions in reserve resting and training. I've been mulling over the Japanese buildup at Dili (Timor) and I can't think of any reason why they'd be building up there rather than sending direct to north Aus? the conclusions I came to was that they're either going to fortify Timor like a Mother **** or they're staging there for an attackl on either western Aus (Perth) or eastern Aus (Normanton/Cooktown) Or maybe I'm reading too much into this and they're just heading to north Aus[;)] ---------------------------- Other stuff - Attu is being built up and now has an Inf Rgt, Artillery, AA and a full BF to run the show. Oodles of stuff being shipped out of Aden and Cape Town for Aus and India. Forgot to mention that June 1942 brings a host of AA/Radar Upgrades for several AP/AK/TK/DD/BB/CV (Lexington) classes. More AA the merrier! --------------------------- Submarine warfare - It's been a good start in June! On the 2nd June SS KIX located a large convoy heading to Bangkok, near Phuket. She decide to send AK Hakkaisan Maru a present leaving the troop laden freighter heavily damaged. I sent another sub in the area to track the same convoy and SS Seawolf found them, near Tavoy, on the 4th and heavily damaged another troop laden freighter - AK Alaska Maru with a torpedo. SS Searaven damaged AK Fukoku Maru with a torpedo near Hakodate, Hokkaido. Patrolling in the same area was SS Shark who blew up the tiny SC CHa-31 with a torpedo. SS Grunion reportedly sank the Momi class APD Hagi with a torpedo off Balikpapan. On the same day (4th June) SS KXVII left DD Arashio** heavily listing after a torpedo hit east of Soerabaya. [image]local://upfiles/4211/02A069275D094B57827CA4484D0C8338.jpg[/image]

BrucePowers -> RE: 1-4th June 1942 (7/6/2010 4:32:06 PM)
The way supply can get to Darwin in this game the IJ player has to invade north Australia just to protect the DEI.

Speedysteve -> RE: 1-4th June 1942 (7/6/2010 5:08:12 PM)
Hi Bruce, Totally. I'm just trying to understand where the MASS of troops headed to Dili are going. He already owns northern Aus so why not just ferry them to Dwarwin directly? Hence, why i'm thinking they're either for Defence purposes on Timor or for an invasion of Western/Eastern Aus. Or as I say could be thinking too much on it[;)]

Speedysteve -> 5-7th June 1942 (7/7/2010 1:13:17 PM)
Hi all, CBI - As usual most of the action has been around China..... The Japanese heavily reinforced their positions outside of Loyang on the 5th and launched a determined attack to take the City from the Chinese. It appears that 3 additional, experienced and fully equipped Japanese divisions entered the fray...the pressure is on....can I hold? I hope so otherwise I'm screwed in China: Ground combat at Loyang (87,43) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 89905 troops, 930 guns, 387 vehicles, Assault Value = 3033 Defending force 92028 troops, 567 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2429 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3 Japanese adjusted assault: 1708 Allied adjusted defense: 2341 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3) Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 9842 casualties reported Squads: 126 destroyed, 437 disabled Non Combat: 67 destroyed, 599 disabled Engineers: 4 destroyed, 78 disabled Vehicles lost 91 (13 destroyed, 78 disabled) Allied ground losses: 5660 casualties reported Squads: 23 destroyed, 328 disabled Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 352 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) Since then another 400AV Chinese Corps has reinforced Loyang and the Chungking ART Bn's are on their way......... ----------------------- Other areas - In Australia B17's from Alice Springs are spreading daily love on IJA 5th Divisions positions (100-200 casualties per day) at Tennant Creek. Interestingly SigInt detected 14th IJA Army is preparing to attack Sydney....may be misinformation or could be real. Either way I'd be happy for a bigger IJA commitment in Aus. With the forces I have there now I feel confident of holding it and it would suck up more IJA away from other defensive areas. Each day that goes by my fores become stronger....for example 3rd Australian Division has just re-equipped with Aus Inf 1942 squads...... ---------------------- Submarine warfare - A mixed few days..... 4 missed/dud attacks (incl. 1 against TK Okigawa Maru near Balikpapan[:@]) but SigInt has determind that the Tonan Whaler class TK Kyokuyo Maru was sunk by a Dutch sub near Groot Natoena in early April 1942.....happy with that....15,000 fewer tonnes of oil that can be moved around. SS KX has scored the only success over these 3 days against AK Gosei Maru outside of Rangoon Harbour....3 torpedoes saw this 3,500 tonne freighter sink.

Speedysteve -> 8-10th June 1942 (7/8/2010 12:35:30 PM)
Hi all, CBI - Well well well.....complacency got the better of me. On the 9th June a Japanese CV force appeared in the Indian Ocean east of Ceylon....they were clearly vectored there after a few Japanese sub reports reached HQ of Allied convoys heading to and from Calcutta. Boy did they hit jackpot.....AKV Engadine was just returning to Aden blub blub...even worse though was the sinking of 2 x DD and 4 x AK ferying 23rd FG P40E's to Calcutta. These guys were vital to securing air superiority over northern Burma. Not now as 62 of them are at the bottom of the ocean. Curse my complacency......[:@] Usual shenanigans in China. Faber smashed a Chinese blocking force across the river west of Nanchang causing 5441 Casualties! Looks as though a further Japanese unit has reached Loyang. I expect a further attack here soon. I HOPE I can hold on. If not i'm screwed all the way back to Sian. ------------------------------- Submarine warfare - The only 'good' news for the Allies in the past few days has been from under the sea. SS KXIV reportedly sank the 1900 freighter Eiwa Maru on the surfaceat night approaching Singapore Harbour (brave bugger!) SS Gar blew up the 99 tonne SC CHa-5 off Wakkanai. SS Seawolf reportedly sank AK Junpo Maru approaching Rangoon. On the 'other side' Japanese subs have spotted a convoy of mine at Attu (reinforcements to make it a fortress) and one trying to sneak a BF onto Baker Island. Baker TF is running away since it's too exposed. Hoep my Attu one can unload quickly and skidaddle..... --------------------------------------- The only other good news is that CV Wasp and BB North Carolina have reached the Panama Canal en route to the WC.

Walloc -> RE: 8-10th June 1942 (7/8/2010 1:40:44 PM)
Speedy, Any way u can give the date of the turn in ur AAR, please. Some times the pictures give it away. Not a biggie tho. Kind regards, Rasmus

Speedysteve -> RE: 8-10th June 1942 (7/8/2010 1:43:16 PM)
Hi Rasmus, I always put the dates in the subjct titles of each of my posts[:)] For example my last post was "8-10th June 1942" Regards

ckammp -> RE: 8-10th June 1942 (7/8/2010 1:56:29 PM)
re: subs With DEI/Darwin held by Japan, where are your basing your subs? India or Australia? Or both? re: CVs With the arrival of Wasp, how many US CVs do you have? IIRC, you haven't lost any, right?

Walloc -> RE: 8-10th June 1942 (7/8/2010 2:02:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Speedy Hi Rasmus, I always put the dates in the subjct titles of each of my posts[:)] For example my last post was "8-10th June 1942" Regards <---------- blind or darft take ur pick! Rasmus

castor troy -> RE: 8-10th June 1942 (7/8/2010 2:11:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Walloc Speedy, Any way u can give the date of the turn in ur AAR, please. Some times the pictures give it away. Not a biggie tho. Kind regards, Rasmus I�ve read Speedy�s AAR back in the good ol� WITP days for months until I�ve asked it would be great to know the date. Only then did I realize it�s at the top of each post... [:D]

Speedysteve -> 11th June 1942 (7/8/2010 4:22:22 PM)
Hi all, LOL.....you guys...I try to make it simple by putting it in the first place you would read - the title and it still gets missed[:D] Hi ckammp - Good question on the subs. At present I have 5 sub commands - Dutch/Attu (for north Japan operations), Midway (for CentPac), Brisbane (for SoPac), Perth (for southern SRA), Columbo (for Burma/northern SRA). I am also in the process of about to develop a super secret 6th Sub command which may be divulged in due course [;)] CV's - I've been particularly with CV use. Infact totally anal. They haven't even commenced on a single offensive operation to date. All of them are on the WC upgrading their AA and awaiting TBF's (Yorktown and Hornet have them so far). Once they all have TBF's I do plan on using my CV's once and if the opportunity arises. I will not take on KB (a least on purpose). I see no theatre's that are crucially threatened and need CV interference (other than China but they can't affect there) at present either. Notwithstanding the above I do plan to use them on some missions depending on what happens over next 2 months (how long it will take to get TBF's on all CV's). ---------------------------------- CBI - Looks as though the Japanese are about to attack Loyang again. Bombardments occured today via land and air. I have snuck in 2 Lancer squadrons to interdict any air interdiction tomorrow. AV's are 2866 Japanese vs 2517 Chinese. The Japanese disasterously attacked outside of Sinyang costing them 6328 casualties vs 1110 Chinese. ---------------------------------- Submarine warfare - A frustrating day with 3 dud attacks by Fleet boats...........

Speedysteve -> 12-14th June 1942 (7/9/2010 4:16:27 PM)
Hi all, A fairly quiet 3 day overall. CBI - The expected on Loyang hasn't arrived. Fine by me. I now have 5 x ART Rgt's from Central Reserve on the scene hoping to at least add some weight to turn the tide. Fairly static elsewhere still in China as we lick our wounds and attempt to re-stock and re-supply. I still have forces reinforcing Paoshan - upto 600 AV now - similar to Japanese totals. A further 130AV will be there within 10 days and then 2 x AT Rgt's and a further HQ are about 3 weeks out. Oh yeah I managed to ambush 12 x Sally were expecting a milk run over Loyang. 21 x Lancer greeted them with lead....goodbye scum[8D] ----------------------- Australia - 74th Infantry Rgt has marched due south of Tennant Creek and is receiving daily love from1 Alice Springs. Further east the 8th Tank Rgt is reportedly nearing Normanton.....keep coming..... Air raids are due to go in today. Up until now Alice Springs has been hosting B17's which have pounded Tennant Creek and the Japanese troops around it (1 x Division and 1 x Rgt) but Aussie Hudsons and Wirraways are going into the fray now - 2 x Squadrons at each Alice, Cloncurry and Normanton. ------------------------ Submarine warfare - Just the 2 missed/dud attacks to report. [image]local://upfiles/4211/1B7194A65D834CE68F8814B09AA3BD55.jpg[/image]

crsutton -> RE: 28-31st May 1942 (7/9/2010 4:54:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Walloc quote: ORIGINAL: Speedy Very little action overall except the Japanese attempted to reinforce their position at Loyang, northern China presumably from the NE. Got a strange combat message though....never seen this before: Ground combat at Loyang (87,43) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1614 troops, 71 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 2046 Defending force 91073 troops, 567 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2356 Assault collapses, survivors seek cover Japanese ground losses: 1368 casualties reported Squads: 75 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 57 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 28 (5 destroyed, 23 disabled) Allied ground losses: 42 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Its a shock attacked forced by moving over a river. They are deadly and since only 1 of the units making the move makes the assult and takes all of the casulties. Pretty sure thats what happend. As only 1 of the units crossing makes the attack the odds are really bad, but i've seen that the combined AV like in above is listed. While the "actual" attack is at very low odds. Hope it helps, Rasmus Walloc, I no longer think this is the case. It was when the game was new but it was considered a bug and fixed in one of the patches. It proved to be a nightmare in China where the Japanese player could move 100,000 men over a river hex vs strong Chinese force and still only one unit would shock with all the others gaining the crossing with no damage at all. Many AFBs were protesting it and they fixed it. Now all units that cross a river hex will make the shock attack.

Speedysteve -> 15-17th June 1942 (7/17/2010 8:23:50 AM)
Hi all, Sorry for the break! I've been away in Portugal on our Sales kickoff being powerpointed to death, drinking alcohol and getting promoted.....back to the important stuff [;)] CBI - On the 15th an empty Aden bound convoy literally, almost, bumped into CV Zuikaku/Junyo TF which appeared out of nowhere due SE of Madras. During the day Vals/Kates bombed Madras damaging 20 x HI. Grrr. A smaller attack located my convoy in the PM sinking a KV and an AP. I had moved air assets into the area expecting the force to stay put on the 16th....unfortunstely they didn't. China has been 'relatively' quiet with an apparent stalemate settling in over southern and central China. I still suspect Faber is trying to take Loyang (he's probably resting there) and trying to outflank it to the north. For my part 2 x Bde's and 1 x Corps routed the small 5th NCPC Inf Bde east of Kweisui on the 15th. Japanese forces in Kweisui evacuated the city on the 17th which my forces will recapture on the 18th. ---------------------------- Australia - Japanese forces are retreating away from Normanton (2 x ARM Rgt) being bombed daily by over 50 x Wirraway and Hudson. Same as at Tennant Creek - the Bde advancing south has been reported as retreating back northwards. I'm seriously beginning to wonder if Faber is just thinking of defence what with SigInt reporting a lot of force moving to Timor, Infantry Division on Java and SigInt has just reported the 2nd Division is heading to Cagayan. ---------------------------- Submarine warfare - A very successful day on the 15th.... SS Salmon blew up the tiny ACM Bisan Maru south of Sakhalin Island. More importantly, SS O19 patrolling in the depths of the South China Sea SE of Cam Ranh Bay, located and sank the Oil laden Mansyu Maru class TK Syoyo Maru with 2 torpedoes. [image]local://upfiles/4211/ED65381A00524A1DB3767F8CC5CCE8EA.jpg[/image]

witpqs -> RE: 15-17th June 1942 (7/17/2010 6:14:48 PM)
Congratulations Speedy! [:)]

ckammp -> RE: 15-17th June 1942 (7/18/2010 3:13:09 PM)
re: China What is the situation at Paoshan? Does Fabertong still have his armour stack attacking, or did he break contact? re: Madras bombing Seems rather odd to send a CV TF to Madras and bomb HI; was the port empty of ships? (I assume ships, not HI, was the main target) Also, the Junyo is, to me, too slow for such a raid, perhaps FOW? re: Australia If Fabertong's goal in Australia is only defensive (keeping you away from Darwin/DEI), he is doing you a big favor. You can simply wait for your Aussie militia Divs to upgrade and use them to push him out; more importantly, you can use US and regular Aussie Divs for offensive purposes elsewhere. And, of course, you can get your bombers excellent training practice. re: RL Surviving deadly powerpoint attacks in Portugal is well deserving of both alcohol consumption and job promotion. Congratulations!

castor troy -> RE: 15-17th June 1942 (7/18/2010 6:18:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ckammp re: China What is the situation at Paoshan? Does Fabertong still have his armour stack attacking, or did he break contact? re: Madras bombing Seems rather odd to send a CV TF to Madras and bomb HI; was the port empty of ships? (I assume ships, not HI, was the main target) Also, the Junyo is, to me, too slow for such a raid, perhaps FOW? re: Australia If Fabertong's goal in Australia is only defensive (keeping you away from Darwin/DEI), he is doing you a big favor. You can simply wait for your Aussie militia Divs to upgrade and use them to push him out; more importantly, you can use US and regular Aussie Divs for offensive purposes elsewhere. And, of course, you can get your bombers excellent training practice. re: RL Surviving deadly powerpoint attacks in Portugal�is well deserving of both alcohol consumption and job promotion. Congratulations! if HI is bombed then that�s what Faber ordered his bombers to do, they would bomb the empty port if ordered on a port strike against ships, not attack HI instead

BrucePowers -> RE: 15-17th June 1942 (7/18/2010 11:45:36 PM)
Wait, wait, wait.......Being Promoted!!!!![8D]

Speedysteve -> 18-21st June 1942 (7/20/2010 4:11:36 PM)
Hi all, Witpqs - Thanks [8D] ckammp - Faber is still at Paoshan. He hasn't attacked there since he stormed across the river. From memory he has 5 x ARM Rgt's and now an additional Bde and ART Bn. I have also reinforced since his moved across with an additional Corps, HQ and soon to be Bde + 2 x AT BN's. I feel quite secure there with plenty of supply, level 4 forts and with 700 (soon to be 800) AV vs Faber's 800 or so. Madras - it did seem odd to me too. Quite a risky opp for 1 x 1st class and 1 x 2nd class CV's to take on. He clearly meant to attack HI but for me the risk far outweighed the reqrd (20 or so VP's). So far Faber has attacked Industry at Madras, Perth and Brisbane nettign 90 points or so. Australia - 100% agree. Things seem to be happening though which I'll update on below. RL - Thanks [8D] Castor - agreed Bruce - thanks you JFB you[:'(] --------------------------------------- CBI - In Burma the Japanese have sent a unit (tbd what) to within 45 miles east of Kalemyo. Clearly trying to stop me building up this place. If he wants a fight for it great. I have more than enough force in SE India to tackle anything Faber can bring. A Blenheim raid on the unit has been ordered for tomorrow. China - relatively quiet across the country except a few shells being lobbed by Faber at Loyang with little effect. The Japanese did try a full scale amongst the Mountains NW of Tsiaotso with disasterous consequences for them: Ground combat at 87,41 Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 23894 troops, 207 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 868 Defending force 30607 troops, 269 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1152 Japanese adjusted assault: 301 Allied adjusted defense: 3262 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 10 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+) Attacker: shock(+), supply(-) Japanese ground losses: 7715 casualties reported Squads: 13 destroyed, 598 disabled Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 349 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled Vehicles lost 13 (0 destroyed, 13 disabled) Allied ground losses: 177 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled I'm so tempted to attack back but I have limited supply at the mo and the same defensive bonus that benefitted me will benefit the Japanese. What do you think (Recon since indicates Jap AV is down to 417)? ----------------------------- Australia - It 'appears' that Faber is withdrawing from his conquests of Tennant Creek and the 2 x ARM Rgt's near Normanton are still crawling to the NW being bombed daily by me. I am totally baffled by this action. What would be the point in invading northern Aus, moving a Division + Bde to Tennant Creek and then withdrawing after a month? Maybe the total air supremacy I have in the region (i.e. 0 Japanese planes seen) is making him? Either way I'm acting cautiously but positive. A US led force is moving north from Alice Springs to investigate Tennant. At the same time 2 x ARM Rgt's are chasing the 2 x battered Japanese ARM Rgt's moving NW from Normanton. I still have substantial force in defence and throughout Australia just in case. -------------------------- Other areas - Fairly quiet elsewhere as I move forces around and wait for TBF's to fill out my CV's. Attu is now a fortress in the Aleutians and a forward sub base. Faber invaded Cocos Islands in the IO. This is a PIA since they can interdict convoys to and from Aus/India. This will be dealt with in due course (i.e. months to come [;)]) -------------------------- Submarine wafare - After a good spell my subs have gone quiet on me again. Just the 1 missed attack! On the other side TK William H. Berg was sunk by SS I-16 east of Attu Island. In return DE Brooks force the sub to surface and fight it out...........it disappeared into the darkness (reported sunk). [image]local://upfiles/4211/63B036DFD17C42E086D3C402ACE34F90.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: 18-21st June 1942 (7/20/2010 4:17:54 PM)
I would definetely try an attack on the Japanese that failed miserably! They�ve lost 600 of their 870 combat squads and they must have a disruption of something like 80+ from their completely failed attack. Even if they get an excellent adjusted av, they can�t do that much damage to your troops as there�s just not enough left. And you could completely wreck his units by kicking them out of the hex. If I would be you, I would order a shock attack, I would expect your base av to be four times higher than the enemy�s at the moment. Add in high disruption and terrain for him and low supplies and shock for you and the odds should be on your side. What strikes me though is that there weren�t any guns destroyed. And FOW is on of course. But still, I would attack... If you decide to do so, don�t shoot me if you fail [;)]

witpqs -> RE: 18-21st June 1942 (7/20/2010 6:34:34 PM)
quote: Australia - It 'appears' that Faber is withdrawing from his conquests of Tennant Creek and the 2 x ARM Rgt's near Normanton are still crawling to the NW being bombed daily by me. I am totally baffled by this action. What would be the point in invading northern Aus, moving a Division + Bde to Tennant Creek and then withdrawing after a month? Maybe the total air supremacy I have in the region (i.e. 0 Japanese planes seen) is making him? Either way I'm acting cautiously but positive. A US led force is moving north from Alice Springs to investigate Tennant. At the same time 2 x ARM Rgt's are chasing the 2 x battered Japanese ARM Rgt's moving NW from Normanton. I still have substantial force in defence and throughout Australia just in case You started this game recently, yes? Under the later patches, getting supplies through Tennant Creek - Daly Waters is an exercise in frustration. Whether that is the cause or not who knows.

ckammp -> RE: 18-21st June 1942 (7/20/2010 8:07:07 PM)
re: China While attacking with low-quality Chinese units is risky, this seems to be a good opportunity. The odds should be fairly heavy in your favor. And if the attack goes poorly, you can always blame castor troy! [:D] re: Australia A couple possibilities: 1) Fabertong's attack was a recon-in-force, designed to both test your defenses and force you to commit forces to respond. 2) Either lack of supply, or lack of air cover, or both, forced a premature retreat. 3) A feint, designed to draw you further north, followed by an amphib attack on Normanton and/or Cairns/Townsville area, in attempt to cut you off. The lack of air cover is most puzzling; at the least, he is missing a chance to shoot down some of your bombers. Given the Allied replacement rate, that is doing you a huge favor. re: Cocos Islands While definitely a PITA, the Islands will need a lot of work for Fabertong to use them as an air base. (other than float planes for recon) At start they are Port- 1(0) and Airfield- 0(2). Given the limited number of Japanese engineers, and the potential number of bases to be strengthened in the DEI, the Islands are probably a low priority. And if used as a float plane base with an AV for support, that can be solved with one of your subs.

Alfred -> RE: 18-21st June 1942 (7/20/2010 9:12:50 PM)
I'll take the contrarian view regarding China. I would, for the following reasons, not attack in the mountains no matter how weak the enemy appears to be. (1) FOW. How certain are you that the true picture has been disclosed. (2) At this stage of the war, unless they have been in rest mode, a most unlikely situation for these Chinese units, they probably have morale no higher than 50%. Combined with their probable supply shortages, low killing power and terrain defense bonus (perhaps even defense fortification also), a rebuff is highly likely. (3) The main value of the location is to safeguard your forward deployment at Loyang, ensuring no envelopement occurs and gaining time for the defenses of Sian to be organised. It is much safer to be conservative and maintain your strength rather than gambling on an attack which cannot be followed up to your profit but risks substantial loss of materiel. Alfred

crsutton -> RE: 18-21st June 1942 (7/20/2010 11:33:03 PM)
Tennant Creek is a dangerous place for Japan. Unless he has brought lots of armor units to OZ the Allied player can mass mobile units and cut it off. I don't think I would try to hold it. Best defense vs Allied mobile units is to hold only the towns on a major rail or road line. That would be Katherine.

Speedysteve -> 22-23rd June 1942 (7/21/2010 11:53:20 AM)
Hi all, Good discussion guys. China - I mulled it over and have decided NOT to attack NW of Tsiaotso. Main reason I decided in this (as Alfred pointed out) is the rewards vs loss. By that I mean if I win, so what? I will not be able to use this force to threaten any nearby Japanese areas. My force is there to protect Loyang's flank and the path to Sian. By staying put I am entrenching and gain experience all of the time. The Japanese (now know) they will not be able to find a way through there. Australia - Yes we started the game under the last but ione major patch. We're upgraded to just before the current Beta patch. ckammp - Agreed on the possibilities for Aus. Still seems odd though. The force he's committed (that I can see) is totally insufficient to hold the ground EVEN against the Aus Army. If it is a feint it won't work since I'm committing enough force forward to take the ground he's taken with leaving plenty in reserve throughout Aus. The more I see the more I'm thinking Faber maybe won't go for another big push anywhere. Today for example 18th IJA Division was reported to be heading to Tavoy. The 56th and IGD are in Burma. 2nd is going to Mindanao. The 5th is in Aus. 38th in Java. -------------------------------- CBI - Blenheim's have bombed IGD positions over the past 2 days east of Kalemyo causing minimal damage with no Japanese response. 5th FG/17th FS CAF Lancer's flew CAP over 63rd Chinese Corps SW of Kanhsien. A strike came in of Lilly's/Sally's escorted by Oscar's. 1 of my boys was shot down but 2 x Sally were claimed. Back we go to giding in the hills for now[;)] -------------------------------- SoPac - A BF convoy had unloaded her cargo at Funafuti and was speeding away to the SE (towards Pago Pago) after being spotted by a Jap sub. A Jap CV force had been despatched at flank speed and caught the convoy. 2 x AP and 2 x AK were sunk and both escorting destroyers were left sinking....grrr. At least 1 x Val was shot down by DD Crosby. -------------------------------- Submarine warfare - Still quiet. 1 missed attack by SS Flying Fish west of Seoul. [image]local://upfiles/4211/DAAD0E15CF4B4FC2A6A23FD2172E5B41.jpg[/image]

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