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jwarrenw13 -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/30/2009 6:40:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Emobama


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ORIGINAL: JW

I vote this worst thread of the year.

What kind of American are you? [sm=nono.gif]


One who doesn't care for idiots like you.




Emobama -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/30/2009 6:46:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JW


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ORIGINAL: Emobama


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ORIGINAL: JW

I vote this worst thread of the year.

What kind of American are you? [sm=nono.gif]


One who doesn't care for idiots like you.

Now that's an American.




jwarrenw13 -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/30/2009 7:19:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Emobama


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ORIGINAL: JW


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ORIGINAL: Emobama


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ORIGINAL: JW

I vote this worst thread of the year.

What kind of American are you? [sm=nono.gif]


One who doesn't care for idiots like you.

Now that's an American.


Whatever. I've given my opinion about health care. I've given my opinion about the classless turn the thread took. I've given my opinion about you. I have nothing else I need to say here. Have fun trolling.




Andrew Williams -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/30/2009 9:23:41 PM)

Igotmilk™ can safely be ignored.

In the past he has falsely claimed to be native american as an attempt to win a debate.

He himself lives off of the governments handouts and good grace.

he will next attempt to slander you with religious insults, it's a very repetetive script he reads from.




Arctic Blast -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/30/2009 9:53:33 PM)

And the award for strangest thread goes to...




Emobama -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/30/2009 9:54:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Andrew Williams

Igotmilk™ can safely be ignored.

In the past he has falsely claimed to be native american as an attempt to win a debate.

He himself lives off of the governments handouts and good grace.

he will next attempt to slander you with religious insults, it's a very repetetive script he reads from.

I know, and I said I would let it drop. I just could not resist when he said "This is about transfering wealth from working class families into a political slush fund. It aint about health care; it's about zillions in draconian tax increases.".

What does he know about working or class? So, he's on the dole. It is the holier than thou attitude he has thinking his welfare is OK but this new welfare that helps other people is wrong. I will try to ignore him. Peace.




sven -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/30/2009 10:12:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arctic Blast

And the award for strangest thread goes to...



This is mild, you should have seen how much fun polite discussions between Yanks and EUtopians on "you deserved 9/11" could get.....





sven -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/30/2009 10:14:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Andrew Williams

Igotmilk™ can safely be ignored.

In the past he has falsely claimed to be native american as an attempt to win a debate.

He himself lives off of the governments handouts and good grace.

he will next attempt to slander you with religious insults, it's a very repetetive script he reads from.



I suppose, hey slightly OT....

is it now open season on discussing politics again...or is this a special "leftoid talking pints only" holiday?




Doggie -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 12:11:32 AM)

You're a piece of work, Milk. [8|]

Myself and Mister Williams have been friends for years. We both know we are miles apart when it comes to politics. Quoting stuff on my forum that I know he reads for himself don't mean nothing. Some of us can disagree without hating each other.

Now anybody that's bothered to read what's on my forum has all the information he needs to know about what I had to go through for that nine hundred dollar a month check from the V.A.


Now if that bothers you, that's too bad. Albino dwarfs with severe mental issues can't make the cut to join the armed forces, so it sucks to be you. That aint my fault.

Now if you think anybody can live on nine hudred dollars a month, well, I guess a sick twisted freak with no social skills can get by on that as long as he lives with his mom.

Thanks for demonstrating just what a sick twisted freak you are. Since you are a fan, you would know that I have a plan for making fools of people on internet forums. Step one is find a fool. Step two is give him enough space to totally disgrace himself.

But then you never had a reputation as anything but an obnoxious troll to begin with, so you don't have much to lose.

Btw, have you met any more boys from the Phillipines? That last photo spread with you posing with a she male in an effort to prove what a stud you are had everybody rolling. Do you even know anybody who isn't a freak?

Have a day.




pasternakski -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 12:25:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sven
is it now open season on discussing politics again...

Remember that most of the Matrix guys are outta here for the holidays. Along about Monday, this mess will be in the lockup.

So, in the words of the Van Morrison song, "Let's enjoy it while we can ... help me, share my load ... from the dark end of the street ... to the bright side of the road."




pasternakski -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 12:36:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Doggie
Now anybody that's bothered to read what's on my forum has all the information he needs to know about what I had to go through for that nine hundred dollar a month check from the V.A.

I've always wanted to get face to face with somebody who begrudges disabled veterans the meager pittance they get so that I can kick 'im in the nuts so hard his eyes light up like a pinball machine and he goes into permanent tilt.

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Albino dwarfs with severe mental issues can't make the cut to join the armed forces,

I dunno. I've been around a lot of Marines...

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sick twisted freak

I think I'll start a grunge band by that name.

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you never had a reputation as anything but an obnoxious troll to begin with, so you don't have much to lose.

Dawg, do you have to insult the obnoxious troll species like that?

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Btw, have you met any more boys from the Phillipines? That last photo spread with you posing with a she male in an effort to prove what a stud you are had everybody rolling. Do you even know anybody who isn't a freak?

Not that there's anything WRONG with that.

One more time: anybody else wants to sh1t on my fellow veterans is welcome to pay me a visit. Anytime. Anywhere.

There it is.




Brigz -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 12:41:58 AM)

Hey paster, good to see you're still around. I've been avoiding this thread like the H1N1 but it's always nice to see the old vets pop up now and then. Have a happy New Year.




pasternakski -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 1:00:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Dave Briggs

Hey paster, good to see you're still around. I've been avoiding this thread like the H1N1 but it's always nice to see the old vets pop up now and then. Have a happy New Year.

Yah, Dave, I browse through every now and then just to see what might be new (never very much), and this nonsense caught my eye.

When veterans are getting shoved around, I go into a spastic dance that would make Hitler at Versailles look like Gene Kelly, so I signed on fer a minute to shoot my mouth off and throw in a few dozen worthless words.

Why, I dunno. I guess, even after all these years, it still kinda makes me feel better.

Take care, old stud. I gotta crawl back into the coffin before the sun comes up.




Brigz -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 1:12:14 AM)

I know what you mean buddy. I'm pretty much of a lurker anymore. Just don't have the will to get involved in any deep discussion unless something strikes my fancy. And I'm sure you'll agree there's nothing quite like having your fancy struck. Have a good sleep Paster.




Emobama -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 1:20:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Doggie

You're a piece of work, Milk. [8|]

Myself and Mister Williams have been friends for years. We both know we are miles apart when it comes to politics. Quoting stuff on my forum that I know he reads for himself don't mean nothing. Some of us can disagree without hating each other.

Now anybody that's bothered to read what's on my forum has all the information he needs to know about what I had to go through for that nine hundred dollar a month check from the V.A.


Now if that bothers you, that's too bad. Albino dwarfs with severe mental issues can't make the cut to join the armed forces, so it sucks to be you. That aint my fault.

Now if you think anybody can live on nine hudred dollars a month, well, I guess a sick twisted freak with no social skills can get by on that as long as he lives with his mom.

Thanks for demonstrating just what a sick twisted freak you are. Since you are a fan, you would know that I have a plan for making fools of people on internet forums. Step one is find a fool. Step two is give him enough space to totally disgrace himself.

But then you never had a reputation as anything but an obnoxious troll to begin with, so you don't have much to lose.

Btw, have you met any more boys from the Phillipines? That last photo spread with you posing with a she male in an effort to prove what a stud you are had everybody rolling. Do you even know anybody who isn't a freak?

Have a day.

Well despite your insults we finally got to the truth of it. You tried to avoid it but you are on welfare and public care. So why do you want to deny others the same thing? You are no better than anyone else on the public dole.

You can say what you want but the fact is I can support myself. Take care of myself. Like a man should be able to do. You can't and that is fine. But I would hope you would understand that there are other people who deserve the pity of society as well.

BTW, it's the end of the month. Get your cup out.





Emobama -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 1:23:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: pasternakski


I've always wanted to get face to face with somebody who begrudges disabled veterans the meager pittance they get so that I can kick 'im in the nuts so hard his eyes light up like a pinball machine and he goes into permanent tilt.

Doggie lost his leg on active duty? Can you tell me why he went to the VA hospital.




PunkReaper -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 1:28:21 AM)

Erik is going to be so over this thread when he gets back.........[:)]




Doggie -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 1:40:42 AM)

Since when is my medical history any of your business? Since when do I need your permission to go to the V.A. hospital? Do I ask you about your substance abuse problems and your obvious mental issues?

What is it like being so depised that you have to register as a sock puppet?

What are you afraid of?





06 Maestro -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 1:40:56 AM)

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I wonder how well your system would work if you added a few million illegal emigrants a year to your system-people that only use services, but don't pay anything in. There are a large number of good people in need both in China and India that are not too far from Australia. I suggest that the entire Australian Navy be dispatch to begin an evacuation of Calcutta and Shanghai into Australia for starters.

No doubt your pride will swell as quickly as your tax bill and crime rate.

I believe in pulling your own weight. If you cant; do that then go ask a church. The least you can do is not have 15 kids, but some seem to think it is their right to do so-and expect others to suffer to cover their selfish indulgences.


So let me get this straight.

The USA is not capable of providing a decent public health care system because they can not control their borders and allow in to many illegal emigrants.

Australia is only capable of having a decent public health system because we dont pay for China and Indonesia's health system.


Try it, you'll like it-sounds like you will, anyway. Hey, what's twenty million people. And then after that, what's another 20 million people. I'm sure you won't mind paying for all those good folks.
If you can't understand the simple fact that 10's of millions of people appearing in a short period of time that are not suppose to be here can break the bank, you need to read a little bit more. Do you think I am making it up? You do not believe that illegal emigration cost billions every month? Are you unaware that there are hundreds of thousands of illegals in prison-because they are violent criminals?

One wonderful thing about the modern world is the ability to find information quite easily via the WWW. I suggest you try it.


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Somehow pride, taxes and crime prevent health care. I can see that you might need to pay taxes but I am not sure you and I are on the same planet. I am just going to nod and wave. Whatever your point, I am sure you think you are right.


It is a safe bet we are the same planet-and that is OK. What is really unfortunate is that their are people like you, that don't bother with facts, that are allowed to vote.

There is more than one reason for the increasing costs of medical insurance in America. Regardless of the system used, or what continent you live on, the types of problems that America is going through will eventually break your system. In the end, someone is paying the bills, and it is not Santa. Ooop's; I hope I did not tred on your parents turf, but you need to know the truth.




Emobama -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 1:45:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Doggie

Since when is my medical history any of your business? Since when do I need your permission to go to the V.A. hospital? Do I ask you about your substance abuse problems and your obvious mental issues?

What is it like being so depised that you have to register as a sock puppet?

What are you afraid of?



Well I just never knew a vet that went straight from the front line to the VA hospital. But you were not in the combat arms anyway.

What's it like to be on the public dole?




06 Maestro -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 1:48:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NefariousKoel

Sometimes I think Doggie needs a creepy stalker.

Oh wait!  Nevermind!  All set.


[:D] Yea, he's got one.




Emobama -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 2:03:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro


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ORIGINAL: NefariousKoel

Sometimes I think Doggie needs a creepy stalker.

Oh wait!  Nevermind!  All set.


[:D] Yea, he's got one.


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06 Maestro -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 2:18:56 AM)

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I've always wanted to get face to face with somebody who begrudges disabled veterans the meager pittance they get so that I can kick 'im in the nuts so hard his eyes light up like a pinball machine and he goes into permanent tilt.


Ditto


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One more time: anybody else wants to sh1t on my fellow veterans is welcome to pay me a visit. Anytime. Anywhere.


There are millions of men including non Vets (and quite a few women) that will happily back you up. Just PM me an advanced notice.




06 Maestro -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 2:45:18 AM)

Doggie

If you qualify for 900 per month from the VA, you got banged up pretty good. Years ago it was my honor to serve as a Service Officer for an American Legion post here in Nevada. You don't get very much unless you really, really deserve it.

Although I never saw any mention of it I strongly suspected you were a soldier or Marine-so now I know. I salute you and hope someday to shake your hand. If you ever make it to Las Vegas, PM me.

About the personal stalker; sort of funny, but pathetic also. It is written that a coward dies a thousand deaths. I assume that is an average amount. Perhaps with some it is twice that. Imagine the pain that those pukes must endure whenever they look themselves in the mirror. Perhaps the only time they can get their mind off of their misery is while kicking a big guy that they know won't hit them, because that is when they think they are being brave.

A happy and prosperous new year to all here, except the sniveling coward.




rhondabrwn -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 4:36:45 AM)


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I've got health insurance through my school, but with a $1,000 deductible, $75 co-pay for doctor visits, and a 70% co-pay on the major medical. If I get hositalized for anything, it's going to be ruinous. They just raised our drug co-pay this year so I've quit taking all my drugs and am relying on diet and exercise to manage my diabetes. Fortunately for me, I'm so far away from a hospital that I don't worry about hospital bills - if anything serious happens, I'll be dead before an ambulance can get out here anyway. With luck, I might make it to 65 and medicare (3 more years) and I probably won't see a doctor again till then.


That is one lousy medical plan-better off just stashing cash-for after a bankruptcy.

Rhonda, I do admire the work you are doing. I am sort of familiar with the area there. A long time friend is a native of Gallup, NM. I have been on the Reservation multiple times (years ago)-a different world; some good and some bad, but quite backward. For better or worse, you chose that route yourself. No one made you go there.


True and I have no regrets about leaving business, becoming a teacher, and coming out to an isolated area. I quite deliberately wish to die before I can become a burden to my three grown children so this is a perfect place for me to accomplish that. I've had a good life.

I am addressing the idea that just because you have health insurance in this country it is not necessarily adequate to insure proper care. The IHS (Indian Health Service) provides free care to the Native Americans, but I hear complaints all the time about the quality of care being provided and it is really sad to have a student tell me that his parent's couldn't afford to expend the gasoline to drive to a clinic so they just stayed at home sick for two weeks. If I had this Health Insurance in Phoenix it wouldn't make any difference - high deductibles and co-pays discourage getting proper health care wherever you are living. When I came to Pinon the deductible was $350 and doctor visits were $35... in two years we've doubled our costs. This is also what is happening all across this country and this trend is going to continue and accelerate. If you are happy with what you have now, just hope that you will have it next year.

But I can attest that I survived for years with no health insurance (or care) at all until I hit the Emergency Room and got hospitalized twice with the Public picking up the tab because I was technically indigent. It was a public hospital so I was able to file a hardship claim and they waived over $50,000 in charges. I qualified despite working two jobs while going to school for my MA in Secondary Education. Both hospitalizations could have been prevented if I had been able to see a doctor before things went critical. People tend to discount just how much of this goes on and how much could be saved if everyone had access to timely medical care (yes, and that includes "illegal aliens" unless you want to let them die on the sidewalks in front of the Emergency Room).

I think it quite humorous that people are so intent on keeping "illegals" out of any health care reform option when we are all paying for their expensive Emergency Room medical care already. We should be demanding that they be included - it would save a lot of money if we could avoid the Emergency Room as their principal caregiver.

I guess it's like the blind men and the elephant - everyone sees what they want to see and everyone ends up with their own version of the "Obvious Truth". I'm sure everyone is quite sincere in their opinions based on their viewpoint and life experiences. I'm not surprised to see so much disagreement, though I am saddened by it because I can only see things getting worse.

I'm sorry to see this thread turn into the usual free for all with personal insults being thrown about. I guess that's why we can't have a political forum on Matrix to allow serious discussion of social and political issues. Perhaps if the Administrators would just step in and DELETE all posts with personal attacks as soon as they see them instead of just locking some interesting threads while leaving those offensive posts up for anyone to view. Better to deprive them of their audience and eliminate the imperative for offended parties to rebut the insults and keep the whole furball going for another round.




darken92 -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 5:21:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro

Try it, you'll like it-sounds like you will, anyway. Hey, what's twenty million people. And then after that, what's another 20 million people. I'm sure you won't mind paying for all those good folks.
If you can't understand the simple fact that 10's of millions of people appearing in a short period of time that are not suppose to be here can break the bank, you need to read a little bit more. Do you think I am making it up? You do not believe that illegal emigration cost billions every month? Are you unaware that there are hundreds of thousands of illegals in prison-because they are violent criminals?

One wonderful thing about the modern world is the ability to find information quite easily via the WWW. I suggest you try it.


Try it? What is it you wish me to try? Paying other peoples health Insurance? What has that got to do with people in the USA choosing to have, or not have a public health system. You seem to be on a rant and are not making sense.

Break the bank? Again you are ranting. The original concept was public and private health systems.

Do I think you are making it up? No, I think you are raving mad. All these emigrants coming into your country and breaking the law means you cant have a public health system? If you want to spend money on illegal emigrants thats you and your governments choice. It has not a thing to do with the decision to have a public health system.

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It is a safe bet we are the same planet-and that is OK. What is really unfortunate is that their are people like you, that don't bother with facts, that are allowed to vote.

There is more than one reason for the increasing costs of medical insurance in America. Regardless of the system used, or what continent you live on, the types of problems that America is going through will eventually break your system. In the end, someone is paying the bills, and it is not Santa. Ooop's; I hope I did not tred on your parents turf, but you need to know the truth.


Same planet. Not menataly.This is a wierd type of rant. You just dont make sense and you, for some reason, dont want to say anythign about health care.

The types of problems the USA is going through? You need to make more sense. Australia has the best public health system in the world. We have one because it is the choices we make when we set up our system. Has nothing to do with you or the USA. Certainly has nothing to do with Santa.

The decision to have a public health system is a social choice dictated by the society you live in and your belief structure. Parents, Santa and all that other stuff are just the ranting of an angry person. What is it about the idea of having a public health system, about taking a social position of helping people that makes you so angry? You can just say you dont want one. You dont want to help your fellow American and you want your taxes to be spent else where, or lowered. While I dont agree with that position it makes much more sense then talking about Santa does.




Chijohnaok2 -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 5:25:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

I think it quite humorous that people are so intent on keeping "illegals" out of any health care reform option when we are all paying for their expensive Emergency Room medical care already. We should be demanding that they be included - it would save a lot of money if we could avoid the Emergency Room as their principal caregiver.


I think that we can do one better than "keeping "illegals" out of any health care reform option". How about we simply keep them out of the country, period. No illegals here to get sick, means no health care expenses or facilities needed for them.


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ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn
I'm sorry to see this thread turn into the usual free for all with personal insults being thrown about. I guess that's why we can't have a political forum on Matrix to allow serious discussion of social and political issues. Perhaps if the Administrators would just step in and DELETE all posts with personal attacks as soon as they see them instead of just locking some interesting threads while leaving those offensive posts up for anyone to view. Better to deprive them of their audience and eliminate the imperative for offended parties to rebut the insults and keep the whole furball going for another round.


I also would prefer that the discussions stayed on topic and avoided the personal insults. I respect Matrix's decision not to allow a political forum on their website, and understand the reasons why they have this policy.

I am not however in favor of Administrators deleting rmember's posts. Administrators are human, with opinions and viewpoints. I have no beef with any of the administrators here. However, having an admin being the arbiter of what is, and is not, an attack post, could potentially lead to trouble. An admin deleting some posts simply asks for the possibility (however remote) that an admin may become selective, deleting some attack posts, while leaving others. You could one day have an admin deleting posts that he disagrees with, while leaving those that he favors. It has been known to happen before.




06 Maestro -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 6:39:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: darken92
Try it? What is it you wish me to try? Paying other peoples health Insurance? What has that got to do with people in the USA choosing to have, or not have a public health system. You seem to be on a rant and are not making sense.

Break the bank? Again you are ranting. The original concept was public and private health systems.


So, this is what it sounds like talking to a brick. Perhaps English is not your first language, in which case you could have asked for a clarification-and I would have been happy to explain any point. In any event, your inability to connect the dots coupled with an arrogant attitude has grown boring. Revel in your prideful arrogance without me. I have better things to do.




06 Maestro -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 7:00:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: chijohnaok
I am not however in favor of Administrators deleting rmember's posts. Administrators are human, with opinions and viewpoints. I have no beef with any of the administrators here. However, having an admin being the arbiter of what is, and is not, an attack post, could potentially lead to trouble. An admin deleting some posts simply asks for the possibility (however remote) that an admin may become selective, deleting some attack posts, while leaving others. You could one day have an admin deleting posts that he disagrees with, while leaving those that he favors. It has been known to happen before.


You have a valid point about deleting posts. Although there could be some clear guidelines that would warrant that action.

What I really wish Matrix would do is to employ some type of IP tracking system so that sock puppets are automatically identified and banned. The banned persons posts could stay on the board for all posterity, but with a big label of "Banned" over the screen name. If there was such a system, I think that the vast majority of derailed and ugly discussions would disappear. There are characters that periodically appear here that are not part of any gaming community, but simply try to start a flame war for whatever reason they hold dear.

I have no idea how much such a system would cost, but it would be a big improvement around here. I'm sure in time such technology will be employed here. It has been used for some time on other public sites.

Matrix has reasonable rules, but are hard to follow when characters surface like they did in this thread.




darken92 -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/31/2009 8:30:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro
So, this is what it sounds like talking to a brick. Perhaps English is not your first language, in which case you could have asked for a clarification-and I would have been happy to explain any point. In any event, your inability to connect the dots coupled with an arrogant attitude has grown boring. Revel in your prideful arrogance without me. I have better things to do.


So that is the limit of your argument? Your right, you most certainly have better things to do.




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