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JuanG -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/20/2010 11:00:08 PM)

Heres some data on the BBs you asked for;
http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/battleships/fran_dr.htm



chesmart -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/20/2010 11:04:37 PM)

Thanks Juan will be using it and Nav weapons.



LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/21/2010 10:00:25 PM)

Alsace class
few information are available
main artillery not choice
4 sketch

1- 8 x 380 (as Gascogne)
2- 9 x 380 (3x3)
3- 9 X 406 (3x3)
4- 12 X 380 (4X3)


For
Bretagne
Courbet
Normandie
Lyon
Bearn

i can help you but actually i work on french submarines







LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/21/2010 10:04:18 PM)

CV JOFFRE



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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/21/2010 10:05:38 PM)

CLEMENCEAU (third Richelieu with minor change)



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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/26/2010 9:01:08 PM)

submarine REDOUTABLE Groupe 1



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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/26/2010 9:01:46 PM)

Redoutable Groupe 2



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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/26/2010 9:02:23 PM)

Redoutable G 3



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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/26/2010 9:03:08 PM)

550 mm Torpedo date

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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/26/2010 9:03:52 PM)

400 torpedo date

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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (2/26/2010 9:04:45 PM)

100 mm Mlle 25 for submarine





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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/6/2010 9:14:28 PM)

minelayer submarine classe Saphir



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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/6/2010 9:16:04 PM)

75 Mle 28 for Saphir Classe



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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/6/2010 9:16:49 PM)

Mines for Saphir Classe



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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/11/2010 9:41:32 PM)

LARGE DESTROYER LE FANTASQUE CLASSE 05-1940
Correct name

L'AUDACIEUX
LE FANTASQUE
LE TERRIBLE
LE MALIN
LE TRIOMPHANT
L'INDOMPTABLE




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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/18/2010 10:29:14 PM)

LARGE DESTROYER VAUQUELIN CLASSE 05 1940




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LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/18/2010 10:30:02 PM)

138.6/40 Mle 1927



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akdreemer -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/19/2010 7:58:36 AM)

What are your alternate historical presuppositions regarding the French Fleet?

Did they all flee to the USA and interned in 1940?

To British bases and active combat?

Answers to these questions will provide a better focus on the possible armament of French ships in late 1943.

As an example, if they were interned in US bases then little would have been done with them till the USA was actively in the war. Even then US warship construction and repair would have priority.





LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/19/2010 11:21:22 PM)

for the moment i built a data base for french ships.

In WW2 some french ships were repaired by US Navy or Royal Navy,






akdreemer -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/22/2010 5:46:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LE BRETON

for the moment i built a data base for french ships.

In WW2 some french ships were repaired by US Navy or Royal Navy,





Okay, maybe a suggestion would be to start at Jun 1940 as a base date for all ships? Unless France held out longer than historical, I see no way some of the French ships your modeling would even have any chance of being present. Thus, it is good to develop a historical (real or alternate)scenario first. If all your doing is exercising imagination in designing ships, this is fine too as it is useful data.

Looking over your ships specs so far everything looks okay with a few exceptions. If you like I will critique these I find in error?




Jorm -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/22/2010 8:53:59 AM)




[/quote]
Okay, maybe a suggestion would be to start at Jun 1940 as a base date for all ships? Unless France held out longer than historical, I see no way some of the French ships your modeling would even have any chance of being present. Thus, it is good to develop a historical (real or alternate)scenario first. If all your doing is exercising imagination in designing ships, this is fine too as it is useful data.



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HI alaskan

I dont get your point ?

surely the idea is to have the ships available for any one to create any type of scenario they choose, be it a 'historical' or a complete 'what if'.

I can think of a number of viable scenarios for a significant portion french fleet to make an appearance in the pacific, many of them based on simple turn of events or a single chance of command decision at a critical turning point.






LE BRETON -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (3/22/2010 11:40:52 PM)

Thanks Jorm

Everyone can add some french ships in scenario as he wants.

You can built scenario with no war in Europe, some british and french units can be send in Pacific.
[:)]


For Alasakan
Name of ships ????

[:)]



Jorm -> RE: FRENCH SHIP (1/14/2011 11:50:19 PM)

bump .so i dont have to keep finding this post



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