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Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/21/2010 4:30:22 PM)

and the rest of the map

and yea, I didn't drive as deep with my deep south forces, but that was the plan

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ComradeP -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 1:27:03 PM)

Seems you need to take a look at your city garrisons, you seem to have a serious partisan problem, even though the VVS isn't resupplying them it seems.



Helpless -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 2:17:36 PM)

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even though the VVS isn't resupplying them it seems.


Being "in red" (OOS) is normal state for partisans, so you can't say from that how well they have been supplied.



Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 4:11:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ComradeP

Seems you need to take a look at your city garrisons, you seem to have a serious partisan problem, even though the VVS isn't resupplying them it seems.



that is a every week issue, every week you got to go hunt them down

(hassle is, the hunters are the garrisons, so if you have to leave the city, you add to the hassle)



Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 4:45:33 PM)

well, been a few turns since I posted

so 3 weeks later, and I reach my goal !

the last port in the north is taken, the Fins are Freed (of course, the hassle there is, the no attack line is still in force, so the Fins over there can cross the Axis controlled hex, they still can not attack (but they can defend and take some pressure off of my troops)



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Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 4:47:47 PM)

the Fins are Freed !!!!

and what taking the ports mean

and a little to the south, you see the hassle the Russian is having, easy to say it should of done this or that, but they are under pressure all up and down the line, so not easy to do that which needs to be done



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Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 4:49:21 PM)

ahhh, I keep posting the after shot, instead of the during !!!

so here is what the Russian is up against

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Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 4:50:51 PM)

in fact, the whole line is in trouble (been resting my Armor, then massing, then resting, the last time though I totally burned them out, now they only smoking badly)


(really, I need a better naming system, or post more while the names are fresh !)


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Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 4:52:36 PM)

and the rest of the map

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Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 4:53:10 PM)

that bottom one, is a good pocket, and been fighting to form it for 3 weeks !!!





Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 4:56:46 PM)

the pockets were good, but, most of the units were way understrength

if they had been full, it may of been 3 times the losses !

of course, to be honest, if they were full, my losses would of been much higher, and the chances of forming the pockets would of been much lower

(there has been a lot of shifting on the fronts, I shift, the Russian shifts, then I shift back to where I planned, and the Russian is a day slow in getting back, and I am able to hit the weak points, find enough weak points and you will force gaps, forces gaps, you got to get pockets)



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Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 5:19:47 PM)

took a lot of battles and losses, but I drove them out, which that was the main force in that pocket, the rest is simi mop up

which oddly, as good as it looks, I have only picked up 4 points towards victory, this turn, I got another 5

going to be a long war



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Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/22/2010 5:21:36 PM)

I have had these guys on refit for 3 weeks, think another week should do it

then I noticed something, do you see it ???

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paullus99 -> RE: German units designations (5/23/2010 1:23:20 AM)

14 Captured T34s?



Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/23/2010 2:27:14 AM)

yeap



Beetle -> RE: German units designations (5/23/2010 2:56:14 AM)

14 captured T34s...sounds like your guys are being very efficient during their rest and refit. [:D]



ComradeP -> RE: German units designations (5/23/2010 12:47:30 PM)

Are the T34's automatically upgraded to German standards over time as the Panzer 747(r), or would the modifications the Germans made have such a limited effect in game terms that the captured examples have the same stats as a regular T34 of the year it was produced in?



Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/23/2010 1:04:19 PM)

I don't think we modeled the German "used" ones, you get what you capture, and may use it for a little bit (you are not going to field 100's of Russian Tanks)

you are much more likely, to put guns to work for you, then AFVs




Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/24/2010 7:07:56 PM)

dang, twice now, my screen capture program has quit in the middle of the turn, taking the snaps I had not saved yet

(new update says it had a major bug with the last release !)

but, here is where I am at, so close, but MUD has showed up, and has really put a hurt on me (all those Airfields were so close, I could just hear the sounds of my treads crushing there lousy little wings !)



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ComradeP -> RE: German units designations (5/24/2010 7:10:42 PM)

The sheer amount of air and HQ units make that screenshot look kind of glitchy.



Capt Cliff -> RE: German units designations (5/24/2010 7:14:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

I don't think we modeled the German "used" ones, you get what you capture, and may use it for a little bit (you are not going to field 100's of Russian Tanks)

you are much more likely, to put guns to work for you, then AFVs




Didn't the early Marders use capture Russian 76.2mm AT guns mounted on the PZIII or PZII chassie?? The Germans captured lot of AT guns but eventually they were up gunned to the 75mm L43.



ComradeP -> RE: German units designations (5/24/2010 7:25:24 PM)

The Marder, using original or rechambered (so it could fire German 75mm ammo) 76.2 mm guns, is one of the few German vehicles where the number behind the name doesn't necessarily indicate the chassis it was based on/is misleading.

The majority of the Marders were build on chassis of captured tracked vehicles of any kind and obsolete tanks like early Panzer II models and Panzer 38(t)'s, although in the case of the latter newer variants were also used.

Basically, if a captured or early WWII German vehicle/tank had tracks, there's a good chance a Marder was made out of it.



Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/25/2010 1:53:55 PM)

I may of misspoke a little, I do see that some of the Fin tanks are remodeled Russian tanks (but think those are what they had on hand, and not "newly" captured models)

Agree CP

in fact, I like that Panzerjager, early ones were really ugly, but the front mounted one, looked decent, the back mounted one, may of been the better of the main ones

(in case you don't follow what I am saying, the early ones, had just the gun and shield mounted on the top of the chassis, then they "build" the next model, with a crew housing towards the front of the chassis, later models, they moved the crew housing towards the rear)



ComradeP -> RE: German units designations (5/25/2010 6:48:32 PM)

I still prefer the purpose built AT vehicles over the Marders, although the Marders were a good case of efficiently using up a supply of obsolete vehicles, albeit in a way that created a spare parts nightmare.

When it comes to improvisations, I like the halftracks with support weapons more than the Marder, although the first Sdkfz 251/10 with the full PaK 36 gunshield was a clear case of "what the hell were they thinking?"



Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/25/2010 6:54:05 PM)

well, if you going to be able to pick , yea, I agree :)

just saying for the class, I liked the front housed Marder over the rear housed (still wouldn't want to be in one, if the other guy was firing !)





Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/25/2010 6:54:41 PM)

Snow came, and the Russian is in trouble



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Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/26/2010 3:02:07 PM)

hmmmm, Snow is my friend

the prize is with in reach

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ComradeP -> RE: German units designations (5/26/2010 3:55:31 PM)

Hard Sarge, I just noticed some units on the Eastern shore of the Caspian Sea were unsupplied in an earlier screenshot (the first post on this page), any idea what's going on there?

A mid level screenshot of the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea area would be appreciated too, as we've basically seen only the Western half of the map in any detail in screenshots.



Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/26/2010 4:07:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ComradeP

Hard Sarge, I just noticed some units on the Eastern shore of the Caspian Sea were unsupplied in an earlier screenshot (the first post on this page), any idea what's going on there?

ahhh, bug, reported, couple of Air HQs showed up, where there is no supply line, and not suppost to be any troops :(


A mid level screenshot of the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea area would be appreciated too, as we've basically seen only the Western half of the map in any detail in screenshots.



roger, will look when I get back in, not going to be too pretty



Hard Sarge -> RE: German units designations (5/26/2010 6:01:19 PM)

okay, think I have gotten what I was testing for out of the way, so will stop posting about that game (new build should be coming up soon)

and for the map

the upper North

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