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moonraker65 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 1:09:56 PM)

Well let's hope that they're honest with themselves and call it a day. There are enough decent players waiting in the wings I expect and Italy are never short of decent players usually.



yubari -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 1:16:38 PM)

As an English man living in Germany, I have to say that I am really not looking forward to the Quarter Final game, Germany have looked far superior in the group games (apart from when having had a player unjustly sent off) and I would give Germany more than a two-thirds chance of winning on Sunday.

As an aside, WITP got a mention on the BBC radio World Cup coverage the other day, during the Danny Baker World Cup show on Radio 5. Danny was looking at the 3 day long Wimbledon tennis game and asking for other long-running sporting matches. Graham in Buckinghamshire called in to say that he had been playing War in the Pacific for the past six and a half years against his son. The presenter seemed somewhat confused because the war only lasted 4 years. Graham seemed annoyed as his son had been hiding his carriers!
It made me laugh anyway.



USSAmerica -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 1:52:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: yubari

As an aside, WITP got a mention on the BBC radio World Cup coverage the other day, during the Danny Baker World Cup show on Radio 5. Danny was looking at the 3 day long Wimbledon tennis game and asking for other long-running sporting matches. Graham in Buckinghamshire called in to say that he had been playing War in the Pacific for the past six and a half years against his son. The presenter seemed somewhat confused because the war only lasted 4 years. Graham seemed annoyed as his son had been hiding his carriers!
It made me laugh anyway.


That's classic! [:D]



Apollo11 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 1:55:49 PM)

Hi all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: yubari

As an English man living in Germany, I have to say that I am really not looking forward to the Quarter Final game, Germany have looked far superior in the group games (apart from when having had a player unjustly sent off) and I would give Germany more than a two-thirds chance of winning on Sunday.

As an aside, WITP got a mention on the BBC radio World Cup coverage the other day, during the Danny Baker World Cup show on Radio 5. Danny was looking at the 3 day long Wimbledon tennis game and asking for other long-running sporting matches. Graham in Buckinghamshire called in to say that he had been playing War in the Pacific for the past six and a half years against his son. The presenter seemed somewhat confused because the war only lasted 4 years. Graham seemed annoyed as his son had been hiding his carriers!
It made me laugh anyway.


Is this for real?


Leo "Apollo11"



frank1970 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 4:45:31 PM)

ok, I stand corrected.



Dixie -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 5:05:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Offworlder

England vs Germany

Experience vs the need to prove oneself.

In my book they are pretty balanced with the game being decided by the team that can withstand (rather than apply) pressure, be it mental, physical or tactical.


Really I'd say Germany are the team far more likely to win, Rooney has been anonymous apart from ranting at the fans and our defence is ****-poor. Apart from Algeria we haven't been bad, but Germany are better and can grind out results even when they play badly.

The sooner we're out of this tournament the sooner the next generation will get their chance (hopefully).



yubari -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 5:09:04 PM)

[/quote]

Is this for real?


Leo "Apollo11"
[/quote]


Yes, entirely real. You can download the program from here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/dannybaker

It is the 23rd June 2010 program and Graham starts at about 45.30



Apollo11 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 6:09:01 PM)

Hi all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: yubari

quote:

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Is this for real?



Yes, entirely real. You can download the program from here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/dannybaker

It is the 23rd June 2010 program and Graham starts at about 45.30


Thanks for info!


Leo "Apollo11"



Apollo11 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 6:58:33 PM)

Hi all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: Blind Sniper

Apollo11...our tactics are secret! [:-]
Anyhow you forget the corner tactic [:D]


[:D]

BTW, here is something from "THE THREAD!!!"... [8D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: Grollub

This is an old one (Euro 2004), but it's still good; Italian soccer training [:'(]



Leo "Apollo11"



Blind Sniper -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/25/2010 7:14:41 PM)

quote:

BTW, here is something from "THE THREAD!!!"...


Too late! See the previous page...[:'(]



patrickl -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 12:59:18 AM)

The 2nd round.

[image]local://upfiles/6882/21C1A568FE4349C5A58D1077FB225E4B.jpg[/image]



DivePac88 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 1:32:00 AM)

Go New Zealand, Oops We're out, gone, banished. Oh well heck, Go USA then! [sm=character0272.gif]



Cribtop -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 4:19:53 AM)

Team USA has really revived our entire nation's perception worldwide - showing a lot of what is best in the USA (and I'm realistic enough to know that we have sides other than our best).

I'm very proud of them, whether they win again or not (but they better win - I cancelled a free round of country club golf to watch their match vs Ghana tomorrow).




chesmart -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 6:09:29 AM)

So Blind Sniper you where in favour of having balottelli an cassano ?



Sardaukar -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 8:02:15 AM)

USA has really good chance to go through to semi-finals. But in semis they'd probably get either Holland or Brazil, so I cannot really see them proceed to final. 



castor troy -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 8:27:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Offworlder

England vs Germany

Experience vs the need to prove oneself.

In my book they are pretty balanced with the game being decided by the team that can withstand (rather than apply) pressure, be it mental, physical or tactical.


Really I'd say Germany are the team far more likely to win, Rooney has been anonymous apart from ranting at the fans and our defence is ****-poor. Apart from Algeria we haven't been bad, but Germany are better and can grind out results even when they play badly.

The sooner we're out of this tournament the sooner the next generation will get their chance (hopefully).



would Manchester United have beaten Bayern Munich in the Champions League like everyone thought would happen I would bet on the English this time but it turned out different so my bets are on the Germans now too. Defence of Germany isnīt a wall either though. I would rate Lahm world class, Badstuber is a talent (if he even plays), Friedrich played for Berlin last season and they made it to the last place in the league with the worst defence of all and Mertesacker seems to play a poor tournament also.



Miller -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 12:38:26 PM)

You have to laugh at the English media, we were no-hopers after the Algeria game and all of a sudden we are potential winners after beating the mighty Slovenia.

Looking at the draw we are going to have to beat Germany, Argentina, Spain and Brazil to win it. Absolutely no chance.



Dixie -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 1:02:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Miller

You have to laugh at the English media, we were no-hopers after the Algeria game and all of a sudden we are potential winners after beating the mighty Slovenia.

Looking at the draw we are going to have to beat Germany, Argentina, Spain and Brazil to win it. Absolutely no chance.


We had no realistic chance of winning before the tournament really, although any team is a potential winner.



TulliusDetritus -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 2:22:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Miller

You have to laugh at the English media, we were no-hopers after the Algeria game and all of a sudden we are potential winners after beating the mighty Slovenia.

Looking at the draw we are going to have to beat Germany, Argentina, Spain and Brazil to win it. Absolutely no chance.


We had no realistic chance of winning before the tournament really, although any team is a potential winner.


Any team can win the Euro Cup, ok. But not all the teams are potental winners of the WC. Look the winners. No Nigerias or Austrias (I mean, unexpected winners). Why could England win it? Basically there are FOUR reasons: Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard and Capello (a very experienced coach).



Blind Sniper -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 3:31:47 PM)

2nd Round matches that I will try to watch in TV because I believe that they will be very interesting and no just funny (every match can be funny):
GER - ING
ESP - POR
[sm=00000613.gif]

quote:

So Blind Sniper you where in favour of having balottelli an cassano ?


Yes but...they are very difficult to control, they are hot heads.
Balotelli is very good but is a kid (really), Cassano is another Baggio (a "ball artist") but sometimes is unmanageable.
I believe that only Capello is able to control them...that's a pity because it would have been a wonderful attack [:(]

quote:

USA has really good chance to go through to semi-finals. But in semis they'd probably get either Holland or Brazil, so I cannot really see them proceed to final.
.

I think so, anyhow it would be good anyway.
Every year they grow up.

Possible final:
personal dream: BRA - ARG (maybe the best WC match)
bet: BRA - GER



Dixie -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 5:07:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Miller

You have to laugh at the English media, we were no-hopers after the Algeria game and all of a sudden we are potential winners after beating the mighty Slovenia.

Looking at the draw we are going to have to beat Germany, Argentina, Spain and Brazil to win it. Absolutely no chance.


We had no realistic chance of winning before the tournament really, although any team is a potential winner.


Any team can win the Euro Cup, ok. But not all the teams are potental winners of the WC. Look the winners. No Nigerias or Austrias (I mean, unexpected winners). Why could England win it? Basically there are FOUR reasons: Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard and Capello (a very experienced coach).


I'd cross Lampard off that list, he's been little better than average for England of late. A lot tomorrow depends on how Rooney and Gerrard play, unless they're both on form I can't say much hope of beating Der Germans.

Germany v Argentina would be a good game though, Argentina's attack and Maradona's 'management' vs Germany's organised teamwork [:D]



TulliusDetritus -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 6:41:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie


quote:

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Miller

You have to laugh at the English media, we were no-hopers after the Algeria game and all of a sudden we are potential winners after beating the mighty Slovenia.

Looking at the draw we are going to have to beat Germany, Argentina, Spain and Brazil to win it. Absolutely no chance.


We had no realistic chance of winning before the tournament really, although any team is a potential winner.


Any team can win the Euro Cup, ok. But not all the teams are potental winners of the WC. Look the winners. No Nigerias or Austrias (I mean, unexpected winners). Why could England win it? Basically there are FOUR reasons: Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard and Capello (a very experienced coach).


I'd cross Lampard off that list, he's been little better than average for England of late. A lot tomorrow depends on how Rooney and Gerrard play, unless they're both on form I can't say much hope of beating Der Germans.

Germany v Argentina would be a good game though, Argentina's attack and Maradona's 'management' vs Germany's organised teamwork [:D]


My "winner" before the WC was Brazil. Then I saw the first match of the Argentinians and changed my mind. But "we have to think twice", I said to myself [:D] Maradona... bigmouth [:D] unpredictable [:D] He tried 23 players or so during the qualifications [:D]



Dixie -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 10:02:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

My "winner" before the WC was Brazil. Then I saw the first match of the Argentinians and changed my mind. But "we have to think twice", I said to myself [:D] Maradona... bigmouth [:D] unpredictable [:D] He tried 23 players or so during the qualifications [:D]


My heart says Netherlands (and England), but my head says Brazil.

Commiserations to the US, but their defence was pretty poor tonight.



TulliusDetritus -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 10:08:07 PM)

Yes, the US didn't play very well tonight. Ghana deserved the victory so well done. Looks like I underestimated them (may posts ago). They are far better than Nigeria and Cameroun.



Sardaukar -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/26/2010 10:31:36 PM)

Really poor finishing from US attackers was their doom..and of course great play by Ghana goalkeeper. And deciding goal was great individual effort. 



Mynok -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/27/2010 3:34:28 AM)


Yep, we had our chances. Ghana deserves a lot of credit because they had a good plan and executed it.



Cribtop -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/27/2010 5:05:27 AM)

We lost fair and square - eventually such porous defense will get you beat, heroics in many games notwithstanding. We never overcame that critical weakness, and in the World Cup only the best survive for long. Ghana reminded me of what my fellow wingers in youth soccer and wide receivers in American football said - speed kills. That said, Uruguay seems to me to match up perfectly against Ghana - they will absorb the quick attacks and counter with quality chances for a victory, IMHO.

I'll shift allegiance to England, then Argentina (assuming England is dispatched quickly which I fear they will be).



warspite1 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/27/2010 7:00:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mynok


Yep, we had our chances. Ghana deserves a lot of credit because they had a good plan and executed it.

Warspite1

Mixed emotions on the result. As I wrote before on this thread, I loved the USA's never say die fighting spirit, but on the other hand, I think it's good for the tournament that an African country remains in.

For the USA there were some positives to take away; Clint Dempsey being perhaps the biggest and his stock, already high for his performances at Fulham this season, went up considerably during the World Cup.

And then there were 14......



TulliusDetritus -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/27/2010 12:37:44 PM)

I don't know if you have noticed it but we are seeing a strategic shift in this WC. Holland [:(]

On my first message I said Holland should win (a reward). But something has happened. This is NOT Holland anymore. In fact, to be honest I always considered the Dutch tactics a suicide... [:D] 3 defenders [:D] against the best squads out there [;)]

Beautiful football? Indeed! But in the end they are always forced to surrender.

This happened to Brazil after 1982 WC. This was the LAST time we could see the old, legendary Brazil. On 86 WC we could witness a "European" team (and they did not change since that date): more control, discipline, watch your back. Exactly the same thing now with Holland. If this is not temporary then we have lost a squad which produced very beautiful football (just like Brazil after 1982). Time will tell.

P.S.: needless to say, since this Holland is not playing as before, I do NOT want them to win. I mean, I don't care at all [:D] In their defense: they learned the HARD way [:D]



JohnDillworth -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (6/27/2010 2:44:19 PM)

20 minutes to go and I know how the day will end.
England losses to Germany on Penalty kicks (this is a game steeped in tradition) and that smug little as*****, Maradona, will win and act like a smug little as*****. It's nice out, 91 and sunny, I should go to the beach, I am a fool
Go England!



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