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warspite1 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/11/2010 10:37:37 PM)

Congratulations to the Spanish - deserved winners at long last [&o]




LoBaron -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/11/2010 10:39:08 PM)

Congrats to Spain. Was crossing fingers for Holland but every other result than a Spanish victory would have been down to pure luck.

Iniesta deserved that goal. [:D]




Terminus -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/11/2010 10:41:22 PM)

The Dutch coach said it himself after the final whistle: "The best team won".




tocaff -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/11/2010 10:45:38 PM)

[sm=happy0065.gif] Congrats to Spain. 




traskott -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/11/2010 11:16:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Hey Fletcher, how do you say "congratulations" in Spanish?[;)]

"congratulations" = Felicidades.


BTW:

CAMPEOOOOOONES, CAMPEOOOOONES, ooooeee,ooooeee oooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!

YES WE DID IT !!!!

xDD And Casillas kissed his girlfriend too xDD:

(the video is inside) http://www.elmundo.es/mundial/2010/2010/07/11/espana/1278885328.html





Fletcher -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/11/2010 11:26:42 PM)

Spain is a great party!!.. Everybody (less me [8|] lol) are in the streets !!! ... Tomorrow will be a great day, here in Spain....Everybody will wait the winners at Madrid !
Congratulations = FELICIDADES (thanks Traskott, I did not see the Terminus post asking, Excuse me Terminus)
Thanks for the congrats messages from all WITP friends.
Best of wishes
Ramón




traskott -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/11/2010 11:42:12 PM)

The country gets crazy !!!! Party everywhere !!!

Tomorrow no one will work in Spain !!!






TulliusDetritus -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/11/2010 11:51:25 PM)

And by the way, this was Holland today (the picture). So history owes them a World Cup? HAHAHA! NOT to this football squad... Where is the amazing squad we could see on 2008? [;)] If this is a strategic shift, as I said some weeks ago all I have to say is R.I.P. We have lost one of the last squads which produced amazing football...


[image]local://upfiles/11562/3FA8BB488A2244599C13F6529A453081.jpg[/image]




traskott -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/11/2010 11:55:06 PM)

They played really very bad ( in the meaning the did too much faults ).




jonreb31 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 3:16:30 AM)

Way to go Spain! They completely deserved to win! To be honest I would be a bit disgusted to see the Dutch win after all their tackles and Kung Fu fighting.




Apollo11 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 7:39:41 AM)

Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

Oh, and Paul The Octopus has striked again! [X(]


Congrats to Spain! [:)] [sm=00000436.gif]

BTW, Paul the Octopus correctly predicted all scores he was involved in (i.e. all German games and then the finals)!!! [X(][X(][X(]


Leo "Apollo11"




sprior -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 1:01:13 PM)

CBS declared Holland the winner.




Jaroen -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 2:11:07 PM)

The best team won; congratulations to the Spanish players!!!

The Dutch newspapers are screaming foul of all the fouls and I agree. Not a clean way to loose . . .
1 in 64 (2^6) that Paul the Octopus would predict all those games correctly.




frank1970 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 3:29:01 PM)

It was a very very unsportive way to play from both sides. where the Dutch just went berserk, the "noble Spanish" used less apparent but not less effective ways to play foul.
The game was a shame for soccer. None of the teams yesterday deserved the title.




TulliusDetritus -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 4:04:23 PM)

From what I have read Paul The Octopus will die in about 1 year and half (life expectancy of this octopus: 4 years and he is already 2 1/2). No Paul in Brazil 2014. Or perhaps sooner if the [Argentinian or English or German or Dutch] assassins manage to kill him.

Frank, you're correct, the trophy should be given to New Zealand, the ONLY undefeated squad in South Africa [&o]




frank1970 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 4:10:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

From what I have read Paul The Octopus will die in about 1 year and half (life expectancy of this octopus: 4 years and he is already 2 1/2). No Paul in Brazil 2014. Or perhaps sooner if the [Argentinian or English or German or Dutch) assassins manage to kill him.

Frank, you're correct, the trophy should be given to New Zealand, the ONLY undefeated squad in South Africa [&o]


[:D] I would feel less pain in my sports heart if New Zealand would get the cup, really. [:'(]

On the other hand the Dutch and the Spaniards might want to apply for the next rugby championship. [:D]




traskott -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 4:11:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Frank

It was a very very unsportive way to play from both sides. where the Dutch just went berserk, the "noble Spanish" used less apparent but not less effective ways to play foul.
The game was a shame for soccer. None of the teams yesterday deserved the title.


And those "not less effective ways to play foul" were....




frank1970 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 4:37:18 PM)

Go diving after a little contact, demanding yellow cards for not happened fouls, stepping on other people feet, etc...
No come on, it isn´t so that the Spanish are angels...




traskott -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 4:53:08 PM)

They go diving in the same way another team (ie: Germany) would have done on this situation.

With all the fouls they suffered, I can hardly remember one time they claim to not happened fouls.

And talking about stepping on other people feet...well,perhaps should they do the same as De Joong with Xavi Alonso and go to the chest ?

Oh, man.

Spain tried to play football since minute one. They do fouls. Sure. They get well deserved yellow cards, yes, but don't go to the player, but to the ballon.







frank1970 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 5:09:16 PM)

As a matter of fact they were playing as hard and as unfair as the Dutch but not so openly brutal.
Take off your Spanish glasses and watch the game again from a neutral point of view.




Dili -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 5:22:19 PM)

The Final was utter crap. No one deserved to win. In the end Spain played good against Germans so they deserve the championship.




TulliusDetritus -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 5:27:35 PM)

Now that the thing is over, I want to share something I read on the internet and that made me laugh a lot:

A brief history of Dutch football.
1974: Total football. Johann Cruyff.
2010: Total thuggery. Mark van Bommel.
[:D]

The problem with this new Dutch "approach" (aka brutal game) is that in fact the coach or someone else might say "we could have won after all". And it's true. They were far more dangerous than Germany. So, and it's rather ironic, maybe this match is the last nail in the coffin of traditional Dutch football.




traskott -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 5:30:11 PM)

Wait....

taken off...

Hummmm...not, sorry, but I don't think Spain played as unfair as Dutch. I'm currently reading some online newspapers as Washington Post and Corriere della Sera, and I left here a quote of the first:

"Spain was hardly innocent but nothing compared to the Oranje. "




ram_971 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 6:15:12 PM)

Spain was the only team trying to play football. Holland's thuggery and brutality got what it deserved in the end.

Rinus Michels must be turning in his grave with the new Dutch football.




warspite1 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 9:37:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Frank

As a matter of fact they were playing as hard and as unfair as the Dutch but not so openly brutal.
Take off your Spanish glasses and watch the game again from a neutral point of view.

Warspite1

Well I watched it initially from a Dutch point of view but ended up wanting Spain because of the Dutch thuggery. How you can say Spain were in the same unsporting league is quite beyond me?

Spain at least were trying to play football - I am amazed you saw it so differently...anyone would think it had something to do with Spain beating Germany in the semi-final and you having German glasses on....[:D]

If you want a thuggish tackle to moan about - try Brehme on Gascoigne [X(] in the 1990 semi-final (a straight red if ever a tackle deserved one.....but nothing given). That was far worse than anything Spain were guilty of last night.

Congratulations Spain - worthy World Cup winners indeed.




Fletcher -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 9:41:56 PM)

thank you warspite1 for your kind words [:)]
best of wishes
ramón




Blind Sniper -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/12/2010 11:31:28 PM)

My congrats to Spain!

European and World Champions [sm=happy0005.gif]




frank1970 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/13/2010 1:20:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Frank

As a matter of fact they were playing as hard and as unfair as the Dutch but not so openly brutal.
Take off your Spanish glasses and watch the game again from a neutral point of view.

Warspite1

Well I watched it initially from a Dutch point of view but ended up wanting Spain because of the Dutch thuggery. How you can say Spain were in the same unsporting league is quite beyond me?

Spain at least were trying to play football - I am amazed you saw it so differently...anyone would think it had something to do with Spain beating Germany in the semi-final and you having German glasses on....[:D]

If you want a thuggish tackle to moan about - try Brehme on Gascoigne [X(] in the 1990 semi-final (a straight red if ever a tackle deserved one.....but nothing given). That was far worse than anything Spain were guilty of last night.

Congratulations Spain - worthy World Cup winners indeed.



Sorry, but your inlogic. Why should I want the Netherlands to become champion, when Spain won against Germany? It is much cooler to say, hey, see, we could have been second, because the other poor guys also lost against them.

Spain was almost as unfair as the Dutch. They didn´t have so many provoking brutal fouls, but neverthelass, their type of playing simply contains the stepping on foot, ellbowing, claiming cards, shouting at referee, diving.
They played in a more fair way as the Dutch, but the Spanish had also a very very low degree of fairness.




BShaftoe -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/13/2010 4:09:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Frank

Sorry, but your inlogic. Why should I want the Netherlands to become champion, when Spain won against Germany? It is much cooler to say, hey, see, we could have been second, because the other poor guys also lost against them.


Because if Spain doesn't deserve the title, and Netherlands doesn't deserve the title, who deserved the title? Germany. Pretty obvious what you're trying to do this. [;)]

quote:

ORIGINAL: Frank

Spain was almost as unfair as the Dutch. They didn´t have so many provoking brutal fouls, but neverthelass, their type of playing simply contains the stepping on foot, ellbowing, claiming cards, shouting at referee, diving.
They played in a more fair way as the Dutch, but the Spanish had also a very very low degree of fairness.


In these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da7nnt_oFN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjrV9PX0VbU

Here we have all the divings and elbowing and stepping on foot that the spanish players did.

As we can see, all the spanish players were actually trying to hurt the Netherlands players' feet with their shins and knees, and in a particular case, with their chests, and then, they dived in order to get the referee to call some card on a innocent dutch player. Shame on Spain I say!!!

More seriously: I long seeing a Germany vs Netherlands, and how some will say then that complaining to the referee is a right when the referee simply doesn't do his f-----g job, and how answering with some fouls is inavoidable when that referee allows EVERYTHING. (Not to talk of that LOL moment when some dutch player made a devolution of the ball in which he tried to actually score a goal, just in case).




moonraker65 -> RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa (7/13/2010 6:17:21 PM)

The Octopus has retired now apparently.




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