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Saburo Kurusu -> Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/9/2010 7:57:57 PM)
PH report from the 12/7 turn of my very first Grand Campaign game ever! (Of course against AI) And as you can see, midgets not neccessarily are deemed to be worthless! And the overall results don't seem to be too bad either, for a beginner/greenhorn like me.... [8D] (Well FOW.....?) AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Midget Sub attack inside harbor of Pearl Harbor!!! Japanese Ships SSX Ha-24, hits 4, heavy damage Allied Ships PC Tiger BB West Virginia, Torpedo hits 1 SSX Ha-24 eludes ASW attack from PC Tiger PC Tiger cannot reach attack position over SSX Ha-24 SSX Ha-24 eludes PC Tiger by hugging bottom PC Tiger cannot reach attack position over SSX Ha-24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Midget Sub attack inside harbor of Pearl Harbor!!! Japanese Ships SSX Ha-18, hits 2, heavy damage Allied Ships BB Pennsylvania, Torpedo hits 1 PC Reliance -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 68 B5N2 Kate x 144 D3A1 Val x 126 Allied aircraft P-40B Warhawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 9 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged P-40B Warhawk: 13 destroyed on ground PBY-5 Catalina: 14 destroyed on ground B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground SBD-1 Dauntless: 6 destroyed on ground F4F-3 Wildcat: 4 destroyed on ground B-17D Fortress: 2 destroyed on ground O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground B-18A Bolo: 10 destroyed on ground A-20A Havoc: 4 destroyed on ground P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed on ground R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground Allied Ships BB Nevada, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires BB Maryland, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AVP Swan, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage BB Arizona, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage BB California, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Dale, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Phelps, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Florence D., Bomb hits 1, on fire CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage DM Montgomery, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk SS Dolphin, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AV Curtiss, Torpedo hits 1 AV Wright, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Chew, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DM Sicard, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Bagley, Bomb hits 1 CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Cummings, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Jarvis, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 3, on fire AS Pelias, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage PT-27, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk DD Reid, Bomb hits 1, on fire AO Neosho, Torpedo hits 1 PG Sacramento, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Allen, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Tucker, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Mugford, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Helm, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AD Whitney, Bomb hits 1, on fire AVD Thornton, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AR Medusa, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Schley, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires DM Tracy, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires AMc Redbird, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk DMS Perry, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DMS Zane, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage AE Mauna Loa, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires DM Ramsay, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1 Allied ground losses: 44 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Repair Shipyard hits 5 Airbase hits 54 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 154 Aircraft Attacking: 14 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 15 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 25 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 16 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb CAP engaged: 18th PG/19th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Raid is overhead 18th PG/44th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes 18th PG/78th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Raid is overhead

KenchiSulla -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/9/2010 8:45:47 PM)
I want an attack like that....

Shark7 -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/9/2010 8:59:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder I want an attack like that.... One game against the AI I managed to get 4 to attack, and 3 to register hits...too bad that was a mod test run and it eventually had to be restarted. LOL

AW1Steve -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/9/2010 10:49:45 PM)
Last night the Chicken of the Sea sank USS Coughlan in the Thousand mile war scenario with a midget! That's the 1st I've seen. [X(]

Walloc -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/9/2010 10:55:28 PM)
I sense a thrend. This is 2 against same ship. Thats a first for me, game started 2 days ago. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Midget Sub attack inside harbor of Pearl Harbor!!! Japanese Ships SSX Ha-14 Allied Ships BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Midget Sub attack inside harbor of Pearl Harbor!!! Japanese Ships SSX Ha-19 Allied Ships BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 54 B5N2 Kate x 117 D3A1 Val x 135 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground PBY-5 Catalina: 2 destroyed on ground B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed on ground B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground C-33: 1 destroyed on ground Allied Ships BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 9, on fire BB Nevada, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage BB Maryland, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AV Curtiss BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 5, on fire CL Detroit, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CM Oglala CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 2 DD Reid, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires BB Arizona, Bomb hits 8, on fire DM Preble xAKL Hirondelle AV Tangier, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1 BB California, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Downes, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 1 DM Sicard, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1 DD Dale, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Repair Shipyard hits 7 Airbase hits 11 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 83 Port hits 20 Port fuel hits 9 Port supply hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 17 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 13 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 3000 feet City Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 3000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 18 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 15 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 13 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 16 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 3000 feet City Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 4 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 5 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 4000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 1 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 4000 feet City Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 13 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 4000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 1 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 2000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 1 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 4000 feet City Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 1 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet City Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 5 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 2000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 16 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 3000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 4 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 3000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 8 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 2000 feet City Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 4 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 2000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb CAP engaged: 15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Raid is overhead 15th PG/47th PS with P-40B Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Raid is overhead Training flight from 15th PG/46th PS has been caught up in attack Training flight from 15th PG/47th PS has been caught up in attack

PaxMondo -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 12:01:12 AM)
I've routinely seen midget success at PH, but not been able to replicate outside of that. I suspect (opinion only here), that the odds are a bit influenced on midgets for the first day. I've tried many, many times to repeat later in the war and have not had success. I've read a few others here on the forum with similar tales, though a couple have had one or two successes.

redcoat -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 2:14:59 AM)
At the end of WW2 the Japs planned on using large numbers of midget subs (mostly Koryu and Kairyu) to defend the home islands. Has anyone tried this strategy in the game? If yes - what was the result?

scott64 -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 3:09:04 AM)
I sank the Cruiser Canberra in Sydney in one of my PBEM. [:'(]

PaxMondo -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 6:03:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: scott1964 I sank the Cruiser Canberra in Sydney in one of my PBEM. [:'(] WOW. Outside of Dec 7 at PH, I haven't been able to accomplish a thing with them ...

War History -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 1:06:56 PM)
How did that sub crawl into the drydock to hit Penns? [:D]

Q-Ball -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 2:33:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: scott1964 I sank the Cruiser Canberra in Sydney in one of my PBEM. [:'(] How many attacks did you try? Just curious, that's 3 VPs per attack because the midget is almost always lost. I have never used midgets because they seem to be about as effective as IRL

crsutton -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 2:46:41 PM)
Yes, they are pretty expensive and have not yet met with sucess in my pbemail game. But then again, after the patch my PT boats have done little and I have lost about 50 of them.

Chickenboy -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 4:07:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: redcoat At the end of WW2 the Japs planned on using large numbers of midget subs (mostly Koryu and Kairyu) to defend the home islands. Has anyone tried this strategy in the game? If yes - what was the result? Not to defend the home islands, but as port / harbor defense, I think they can be useful annoyances. My experience with these is mainly in the Thousand Mile scenario, but they still held the attention of my opponent's ASW assets. They also got off shots (missing, naturally) on several warships.

AW1Steve -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 4:10:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: redcoat At the end of WW2 the Japs planned on using large numbers of midget subs (mostly Koryu and Kairyu) to defend the home islands. Has anyone tried this strategy in the game? If yes - what was the result? Not to defend the home islands, but as port / harbor defense, I think they can be useful annoyances. My experience with these is mainly in the Thousand Mile scenario, but they still held the attention of my opponent's ASW assets. They also got off shots (missing, naturally) on several warships. The ports and harbor defenses of the Home Islands. Outside of Kiska, where else did they deploy them? (Please don't say Iwo or Okinawa , as Japan did/does regard them as part of the Home Islands). [&:]

John 3rd -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 4:18:46 PM)
I Posted on my AAR the following issue regarding Midget SS: I have three I-Boats (-16, -18, and -20) in Cam Rahn Bay as well as nine midgets. I formed a Midget SS TF and found the TF wouldn't load the Midgets. Assumed that I needed to create the Midgets FIRST, then load them, and finally sail. Did I miss anything? Additional question: When the Midgets are released, I assume my I-Boats are not in danger of running into minefields at that hex. Right? Thanks and sorry for the hijack...

Chickenboy -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 4:29:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John 3rd I Posted on my AAR the following issue regarding Midget SS: I have three I-Boats (-16, -18, and -20) in Cam Rahn Bay as well as nine midgets. I formed a Midget SS TF and found the TF wouldn't load the Midgets. Assumed that I needed to create the Midgets FIRST, then load them, and finally sail. Did I miss anything? Additional question: When the Midgets are released, I assume my I-Boats are not in danger of running into minefields at that hex. Right? Thanks and sorry for the hijack... John, Why not release the midgets a hex away from the (mined) target hex? I wouldn't assume that the I-boats are immune to mines if they're present in a hex.

Walloc -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 4:35:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: War History How did that sub crawl into the drydock to hit Penns? [:D] By having a cunning plan and being sneaky! [;)]

Don Bowen -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 4:36:29 PM)
Midget subs must be released in the target hex. The carrier I-Boats tend to stay outside the minefields - but are not 100% immune.

Chickenboy -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 4:38:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Don Bowen Midget subs must be released in the target hex. The carrier I-Boats tend to stay outside the minefields - but are not 100% immune. Thanks, Don. This explains why I've been having such a hard time releasing midgets! [:D]

John 3rd -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 4:44:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Don Bowen Midget subs must be released in the target hex. The carrier I-Boats tend to stay outside the minefields - but are not 100% immune. "NOT 100% immune..." This doesn't do much for my confidence! Thanks a lot Don... Any idea as to why my I-Boats won't load the Midgets?

Don Bowen -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 5:32:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John 3rd quote: ORIGINAL: Don Bowen Midget subs must be released in the target hex. The carrier I-Boats tend to stay outside the minefields - but are not 100% immune. "NOT 100% immune..." This doesn't do much for my confidence! Thanks a lot Don... Any idea as to why my I-Boats won't load the Midgets? Nope, if you can't figure it out, go ahead and post a save in the tech support forum.

hunchback77 -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 5:59:03 PM)
Your forming the wrong taskforce type John 3rd. Your forming Midget Submarine TF's when you should be trying to form Midget Sub Carrier taskforces.

John 3rd -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 6:41:47 PM)
Got it! Will see if that comes up as an option. Thanks!

m10bob -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 6:47:03 PM)
I have seen midget sub attacks in Trincomelee, Colombo, and 'Frisco, all successful.

redcoat -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 8:15:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AW1Steve quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: redcoat At the end of WW2 the Japs planned on using large numbers of midget subs (mostly Koryu and Kairyu) to defend the home islands. Has anyone tried this strategy in the game? If yes - what was the result? Not to defend the home islands, but as port / harbor defense, I think they can be useful annoyances. My experience with these is mainly in the Thousand Mile scenario, but they still held the attention of my opponent's ASW assets. They also got off shots (missing, naturally) on several warships. The ports and harbor defenses of the Home Islands. Outside of Kiska, where else did they deploy them? (Please don't say Iwo or Okinawa , as Japan did/does regard them as part of the Home Islands). [&:] Midget subs formed part of �Special Attack Units� based at various locations � in harbours or in coastal caves/bunkers - along the Japanese coastline. The First Special Attack Unit (Kairyus) was based at Ajiro, for example, and the Third Special Attack Unit (Koryus) was formed at Sasebo. I don�t think most midget subs had been deployed to their bases by the time of the surrender. Most Kairyus, for example, were built at Yokosuka N.Y. The majority of them were still at Yokusuka, or hidden in inlets on the southern tip of the Miura Peninsula, when the war ended. The Japanese had planned on sending most of them to Kyushu and Shikoku.

Lecivius -> RE: Midget Subs - They can do it!!! (9/10/2010 10:18:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: m10bob I have seen midget sub attacks in Trincomelee, Colombo, and 'Frisco, all successful. Same here

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