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GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/20/2011 11:49:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac Hmmmm do you not have a Bn off the rail net at 52,11 one unit there and strat mode is a no no ps I would care to much most of you units are back north of the desert ....arent they....? Start to think about pulling out the big 4E and whatever 2E bombers you have left they will just eat supply keep a few for harrassment and any low nav trqained or torp sqns you have but the rest its time to go unfortunately i had no unit at 52,11...however he would simply bomb it to destruction (as he already done before)... All my "good" units are sitting at Karachi and Hyderabad... My 4Es are still usefull imho...however i got your point guys..."SAVE SUPPLY"...so i'll keep them as a threat in being and won't use them anymore if not in emercency situation... Ok, a good turn i'd say. Multan is safe (for the moment)! Sept 21,22 1942 We airlifted at Multan the 1st Glouchester BN and the Light Owl Bn... He came with 150 helens escorted by 50 oscars. My Fulmar sacrificed themself tangling with the escort. We lost 11 planes against his 20...however the bomber got through and mouled my troops. But then it came the allied wave...and our 100 bombers (blenheims, Liberators and Wellingtons) completely wiped out what was left of his 4 para-units. Then he dropped again but this time his transports got intercepted by what was left of my fulmars...8 of them got chewed! The subsequent shock attack found our guys ready and we wiped them all out!! On the 22nd my B-17s attacked Dehli...we found 100 fighters on CAP but luckly they were not that effective...we exchanged good blows and we damaged the strip destroying some of them on the ground. The result of the last bombing campaign is that Rader is now keeping 100 fighters at Dehli, 100 at Surat, 100 at Ahdemabad...all these fighters are not weeping Karachi...which is a damned good news[8D]. The first 60k convoy arrived at Karachi...now we reached the 500k supply level... more 45k are coming within the next 3 days... Lost sight of his BBs....[&:] The important news is that we sent our base forces (those who were pushed back from Jodpur) back into their former base and we found some usefull infos about the composition of his Army... Ground combat at Jodphur (45,14) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 285542 troops, 3314 guns, 3496 vehicles, Assault Value = 10720 Defending force 1104 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23 Japanese adjusted assault: 8180 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 8180 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 66 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Allied ground losses: 770 casualties reported Squads: 13 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 95 destroyed, 20 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 27 (26 destroyed, 1 disabled) Units retreated 5 Units destroyed 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 43rd Naval Guard Unit 8th Tank Regiment 14th Tank Regiment 9th Tank Regiment 4th Tank Regiment 2nd Tank Regiment 48th Engineer Regiment 6th Tank Regiment 44th Naval Guard Unit 38th Division 23rd Tank Regiment 54th Division 17th Indpt Guards Regiment 23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment 1st Raiding Regiment 4th Ind.Mixed Regiment 143rd Infantry Regiment 52nd Division 2nd Raiding Regiment 13th Tank Regiment 7th Ind.Tank Brigade 148th Infantry Regiment 12th Tank Regiment Guards Tank Division 14th Guards Regiment Imperial Guards Division 16th Engineer Regiment 4th Division 21st Division Yokosuka 1st SNLF 16th Recon Regiment 33rd Infantry Regiment 301st Ind.Infantry Battalion 5th Tank Regiment 5th Guards Engineer Regiment 3rd Tank Regiment 2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment 53rd Division 33rd Division 144th Infantry Regiment 16th Guards Regiment 4th Guards Division 146th Infantry Regiment 17th Division 7th Tank Regiment 5th Guards Cav Regiment 37th Division 32nd Division 15th Division 51st Recon Regiment 15th Guards Regiment 39th Division 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment Yokosuka 3rd SNLF 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment 55th Engineer Regiment 2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment 61st Infantry Brigade 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment 6th Indpt SNLF Coy 2nd Recon Regiment 1st Tank Regiment 6th Guards Division 5th Division 15th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 55th Const Co 34th Ind.AA Gun Co 29th Fld AA Gun Co 55th Mountain Gun Regiment 13th Ind.AA Gun Co 41st Ind.AA Gun Co 11th RF Gun Battalion 32nd Air Defense AA Battalion 56th Const Co 49th Const Co 48th Road Const Co 35th Const Co 47th Road Const Co 55th Field AA Battalion 1st Air Defense AA Regiment 52nd Const Co 15th JAAF Base Force 7th RF Gun Battalion 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Mortar Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 36th Field AA Battalion 48th Field AA Battalion 27th JAAF AF Bn 1st Air Defense AA Battalion 35th Field AA Battalion 53rd Const Co 23rd AA Regiment 21st Air Defense AA Regiment 21st Fld AA Gun Co 1st Ind.AA Gun Co 12th Ind. AA Battalion 44th Ind.AA Gun Co 25th Air Defense AA Regiment 8th Field AF Construction Battalion 31st Air Defense AA Battalion 22nd AA Regiment 21st JAAF AF Bn 9th Field AF Construction Battalion 3rd Ind.AA Gun Co 35th Fld AA Gun Co 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 32nd Field AA Battalion 26th Air Defense AA Regiment 56th Field Artillery Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 22nd Fld AA Gun Co 2nd RF Gun Battalion 40th Const Co 31st Field AA Battalion 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 30th Fld AA Gun Co 1st Mobile AA Battalion 51st Field AA Battalion 5th RF Gun Battalion 26th Fld AA Gun Co 4th RF Gun Battalion 51st Const Co 25th JNAF AF Unit 23rd Ind.AA Gun Co 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 39th Road Const Co 49th Field AA Battalion 45th Ind.AA Gun Co 12th Ind.AA Gun Co 10th RF Gun Battalion 21st Ind.AA Gun Co 2nd Mobile AA Battalion 23rd Port Unit 23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 53rd Field AA Battalion 28th Fld AA Gun Co 31st Fld AA Gun Co 37th Const Co 3rd FF Const Unit 2nd Air Division 3rd Mortar Battalion 54th Field AA Battalion 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 27th Fld AA Gun Co 6th Field AF Construction Battalion 36th Const Co 2nd Ind.AA Gun Co 47th Field AA Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 34th Field AA Battalion 56th Field AA Battalion 41st Field AA Battalion 43rd Const Co 8th RF Gun Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 31st Road Const Co 35th JAAF AF Bn 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 9th RF Gun Battalion 3rd RF Gun Battalion 144th JAAF AF Bn 54th Const Co 32nd Ind.AA Gun Co 43rd Ind.AA Gun Co Southern Army 41st Air Defense AA Regiment 22nd Port Unit 38th Field AA Battalion 57th Field AA Battalion 50th Field AA Battalion 48th Field Artillery Regiment 41st Air Defense AA Battalion 39th Field AA Battalion 5th Field AF Construction Battalion 1st RF Gun Battalion 4th Air Defense AA Regiment 6th RF Gun Battalion 4th Naval Construction Battalion 1st Mobile Field Artillery Regiment 20th AA Regiment 45th Road Const Co 6th JNAF AF Unit 13th JAAF AF Bn 12th Air Defense AA Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 42nd Ind.AA Gun Co 22nd Ind.AA Gun Co 7th Field AF Construction Battalion 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 25th Army 15th Const Co 21st Army 10k AVs...plus probably more 3000 around Dehli and possibly more 3000 around Surat.... he's not going to take Karachi with these forces...he will need lot more! He got a bloody nose at Multan...let's see if he'll try again or will use the usual method... 3 big units are already advancing northwards from Dehli... and today i recieved at Karachi the first Chindits Bde...[;)] Now i need to focus on Supplies...i know...i will...i promise. The goal is to keep the 500k level as long as i can. God...i love this game![&o]

jeffk3510 -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/20/2011 11:52:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac Hmmmm do you not have a Bn off the rail net at 52,11 one unit there and strat mode is a no no ps I would care to much most of you units are back north of the desert ....arent they....? Start to think about pulling out the big 4E and whatever 2E bombers you have left they will just eat supply keep a few for harrassment and any low nav trqained or torp sqns you have but the rest its time to go unfortunately i had no unit at 52,11...however he would simply bomb it to destruction (as he already done before)... All my "good" units are sitting at Karachi and Hyderabad... My 4Es are still usefull imho...however i got your point guys..."SAVE SUPPLY"...so i'll keep them as a threat in being and won't use them anymore if not in emercency situation... Ok, a good turn i'd say. Multan is safe (for the moment)! Sept 21,22 1942 We airlifted at Multan the 1st Glouchester BN and the Light Owl Bn... He came with 150 helens escorted by 50 oscars. My Fulmar sacrificed themself tangling with the escort. We lost 11 planes against his 20...however the bomber got through and mouled my troops. But then it came the allied wave...and our 100 bombers (blenheims, Liberators and Wellingtons) completely wiped out what was left of his 4 para-units. Then he dropped again but this time his transports got intercepted by what was left of my fulmars...8 of them got chewed! The subsequent shock attack found our guys ready and we wiped them all out!! On the 22nd my B-17s attacked Dehli...we found 100 fighters on CAP but luckly they were not that effective...we exchanged good blows and we damaged the strip destroying some of them on the ground. The result of the last bombing campaign is that Rader is now keeping 100 fighters at Dehli, 100 at Surat, 100 at Ahdemabad...all these fighters are not weeping Karachi...which is a damned good news[8D]. The first 60k convoy arrived at Karachi...now we reached the 500k supply level... more 45k are coming within the next 3 days... Lost sight of his BBs....[&:] The important news is that we sent our base forces (those who were pushed back from Jodpur) back into their former base and we found some usefull infos about the composition of his Army... Ground combat at Jodphur (45,14) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 285542 troops, 3314 guns, 3496 vehicles, Assault Value = 10720 Defending force 1104 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23 Japanese adjusted assault: 8180 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 8180 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 66 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Allied ground losses: 770 casualties reported Squads: 13 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 95 destroyed, 20 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 27 (26 destroyed, 1 disabled) Units retreated 5 Units destroyed 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 43rd Naval Guard Unit 8th Tank Regiment 14th Tank Regiment 9th Tank Regiment 4th Tank Regiment 2nd Tank Regiment 48th Engineer Regiment 6th Tank Regiment 44th Naval Guard Unit 38th Division 23rd Tank Regiment 54th Division 17th Indpt Guards Regiment 23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment 1st Raiding Regiment 4th Ind.Mixed Regiment 143rd Infantry Regiment 52nd Division 2nd Raiding Regiment 13th Tank Regiment 7th Ind.Tank Brigade 148th Infantry Regiment 12th Tank Regiment Guards Tank Division 14th Guards Regiment Imperial Guards Division 16th Engineer Regiment 4th Division 21st Division Yokosuka 1st SNLF 16th Recon Regiment 33rd Infantry Regiment 301st Ind.Infantry Battalion 5th Tank Regiment 5th Guards Engineer Regiment 3rd Tank Regiment 2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment 53rd Division 33rd Division 144th Infantry Regiment 16th Guards Regiment 4th Guards Division 146th Infantry Regiment 17th Division 7th Tank Regiment 5th Guards Cav Regiment 37th Division 32nd Division 15th Division 51st Recon Regiment 15th Guards Regiment 39th Division 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment Yokosuka 3rd SNLF 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment 55th Engineer Regiment 2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment 61st Infantry Brigade 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment 6th Indpt SNLF Coy 2nd Recon Regiment 1st Tank Regiment 6th Guards Division 5th Division 15th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 55th Const Co 34th Ind.AA Gun Co 29th Fld AA Gun Co 55th Mountain Gun Regiment 13th Ind.AA Gun Co 41st Ind.AA Gun Co 11th RF Gun Battalion 32nd Air Defense AA Battalion 56th Const Co 49th Const Co 48th Road Const Co 35th Const Co 47th Road Const Co 55th Field AA Battalion 1st Air Defense AA Regiment 52nd Const Co 15th JAAF Base Force 7th RF Gun Battalion 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Mortar Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 36th Field AA Battalion 48th Field AA Battalion 27th JAAF AF Bn 1st Air Defense AA Battalion 35th Field AA Battalion 53rd Const Co 23rd AA Regiment 21st Air Defense AA Regiment 21st Fld AA Gun Co 1st Ind.AA Gun Co 12th Ind. AA Battalion 44th Ind.AA Gun Co 25th Air Defense AA Regiment 8th Field AF Construction Battalion 31st Air Defense AA Battalion 22nd AA Regiment 21st JAAF AF Bn 9th Field AF Construction Battalion 3rd Ind.AA Gun Co 35th Fld AA Gun Co 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 32nd Field AA Battalion 26th Air Defense AA Regiment 56th Field Artillery Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 22nd Fld AA Gun Co 2nd RF Gun Battalion 40th Const Co 31st Field AA Battalion 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 30th Fld AA Gun Co 1st Mobile AA Battalion 51st Field AA Battalion 5th RF Gun Battalion 26th Fld AA Gun Co 4th RF Gun Battalion 51st Const Co 25th JNAF AF Unit 23rd Ind.AA Gun Co 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 39th Road Const Co 49th Field AA Battalion 45th Ind.AA Gun Co 12th Ind.AA Gun Co 10th RF Gun Battalion 21st Ind.AA Gun Co 2nd Mobile AA Battalion 23rd Port Unit 23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 53rd Field AA Battalion 28th Fld AA Gun Co 31st Fld AA Gun Co 37th Const Co 3rd FF Const Unit 2nd Air Division 3rd Mortar Battalion 54th Field AA Battalion 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 27th Fld AA Gun Co 6th Field AF Construction Battalion 36th Const Co 2nd Ind.AA Gun Co 47th Field AA Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 34th Field AA Battalion 56th Field AA Battalion 41st Field AA Battalion 43rd Const Co 8th RF Gun Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 31st Road Const Co 35th JAAF AF Bn 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 9th RF Gun Battalion 3rd RF Gun Battalion 144th JAAF AF Bn 54th Const Co 32nd Ind.AA Gun Co 43rd Ind.AA Gun Co Southern Army 41st Air Defense AA Regiment 22nd Port Unit 38th Field AA Battalion 57th Field AA Battalion 50th Field AA Battalion 48th Field Artillery Regiment 41st Air Defense AA Battalion 39th Field AA Battalion 5th Field AF Construction Battalion 1st RF Gun Battalion 4th Air Defense AA Regiment 6th RF Gun Battalion 4th Naval Construction Battalion 1st Mobile Field Artillery Regiment 20th AA Regiment 45th Road Const Co 6th JNAF AF Unit 13th JAAF AF Bn 12th Air Defense AA Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 42nd Ind.AA Gun Co 22nd Ind.AA Gun Co 7th Field AF Construction Battalion 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 25th Army 15th Const Co 21st Army 10k AVs...plus probably more 3000 around Dehli and possibly more 3000 around Surat.... he's not going to take Karachi with these forces...he will need lot more! He got a bloody nose at Multan...let's see if he'll try again or will use the usual method... 3 big units are already advancing northwards from Dehli... and today i recieved at Karachi the first Chindits Bde...[;)] Now i need to focus on Supplies...i know...i will...i promise. The goal is to keep the 500k level as long as i can. God...i love this game![&o] [sm=00001746.gif]

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 8:02:34 AM)
Sept 23,24,25,26 1942 Days of relative quiet. Rader started sending sweeps against Multan and 300 Helens everyday pounds the base and the LCUs in there. I retired my Fulmars back to Karachi...useless to have them there now. The message to Rader was delivered: "Always escort your bombers cause i could pop up everywhere". Supplies at Karachi reached the awesome level of 560k. It's incredible that Rader didn't even try to interdict this constant flow...since he crossed we've been able to deliver nearly 250k supplies, 2 full divisions and a motorized Bde without losing a single ship or a/c! The second Chindit Bde arrived at Karachi. Now we have nearly 8500 AVs there and another full Indian Division is scheldued to arrive (was supposed to spring at Madras) within the next 10 days... After the upgrades and repairs my CVs are again on the move. 5 of them cause the Saratoga is still repairing her damage (will take 2 more months[:o]). Now they're moving back to Christmas. At Brisbane we're assembling the PM invasion force. we have collected 1 division and the equivalent of 2 full brigades, 2 base forces, 2 Arty units and some engineers. APs and AKs (fast unload ships) are moving to Oz in order to be used here. Need to wait for my CVs however... Fuel remains a constant problem in the pacific. Despite my efforts my main bases (Christmas, Pago, Suva, Lungaville and Noumea) are always low on fuel. We reconned Rabaul during the last days. It's a 9 lvl AF but only 7000 men are spotted there[&:][&:]...Lae seems to have more men and guns than Rabaul...pretty weird i'd say. Intel keeps on telling me about units moving to Timor and all the other islands of the Banda Sea (southern DEI)...Rader is really reinforcing his perimeter! In NOPAC everything is quiet. We keep on reinforcing the Aleutinas with supplies, fuel and troops. In 4 days i'll be again on the "positive" side for what concerns PPs...thank God! Rader's Air ASW is becoming a problem...every time one of my subs gets spotted by his Helens (in deep waters mind you!) it gets hit and has to get back to PH...i'm trying to avoid chocke points but it seems that Rader has placed a trained ASW Helens unit almost everywhere in the Pacific...

beppi -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 3:23:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Sept 23,24,25,26 1942 Days of relative quiet. Rader started sending sweeps against Multan and 300 Helens everyday pounds the base and the LCUs in there. I retired my Fulmars back to Karachi...useless to have them there now. The message to Rader was delivered: "Always escort your bombers cause i could pop up everywhere". Supplies at Karachi reached the awesome level of 560k. It's incredible that Rader didn't even try to interdict this constant flow...since he crossed we've been able to deliver nearly 250k supplies, 2 full divisions and a motorized Bde without losing a single ship or a/c! The second Chindit Bde arrived at Karachi. Now we have nearly 8500 AVs there and another full Indian Division is scheldued to arrive (was supposed to spring at Madras) within the next 10 days... After the upgrades and repairs my CVs are again on the move. 5 of them cause the Saratoga is still repairing her damage (will take 2 more months[:o]). Now they're moving back to Christmas. At Brisbane we're assembling the PM invasion force. we have collected 1 division and the equivalent of 2 full brigades, 2 base forces, 2 Arty units and some engineers. APs and AKs (fast unload ships) are moving to Oz in order to be used here. Need to wait for my CVs however... Fuel remains a constant problem in the pacific. Despite my efforts my main bases (Christmas, Pago, Suva, Lungaville and Noumea) are always low on fuel. We reconned Rabaul during the last days. It's a 9 lvl AF but only 7000 men are spotted there[&:][&:]...Lae seems to have more men and guns than Rabaul...pretty weird i'd say. Intel keeps on telling me about units moving to Timor and all the other islands of the Banda Sea (southern DEI)...Rader is really reinforcing his perimeter! In NOPAC everything is quiet. We keep on reinforcing the Aleutinas with supplies, fuel and troops. In 4 days i'll be again on the "positive" side for what concerns PPs...thank God! Rader's Air ASW is becoming a problem...every time one of my subs gets spotted by his Helens (in deep waters mind you!) it gets hit and has to get back to PH...i'm trying to avoid chocke points but it seems that Rader has placed a trained ASW Helens unit almost everywhere in the Pacific... Intel is not always correct. i would not trust the 6000 troops at Rabaul. I have experienced the same too that in a Hex where i know that there are at least 5-6 divisions i only get 3000 reported troops. Not sure if the mode of the units influences that.

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 3:38:55 PM)
Acutally for that reason i've ordered 4 more days of recon over Rabaul, Lae and PM...just to be sure...[;)] I know this will show him my growing attention on that particular sector, but i don't wanna experiment no more the bad surprises i got at Wake and Marcus...

Canoerebel -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 3:55:19 PM)
An experienced player like rader will be adept at reading your intentions by various signs - recon, presence of patrol aircraft or subs, the sudden increase or decrease in activity in other sectors, the importance of an area, spidey senses tingling, etc. To a certain extent, you may be telegraphing your intentions enough that rader knows where you're likely to head next, so that he can swiftly mobilize forces to counter or meet the newest threat. That's why deception and feinting is critical to your success. Try to figure out where he is most afraid of you striking. Try to feed his feers slowly and believably. Then strike elsewhere hard and fast. I'm sure you know this, but I was in the mood to type this morning.

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 4:08:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel An experienced player like rader will be adept at reading your intentions by various signs - recon, presence of patrol aircraft or subs, the sudden increase or decrease in activity in other sectors, the importance of an area, spidey senses tingling, etc. To a certain extent, you may be telegraphing your intentions enough that rader knows where you're likely to head next, so that he can swiftly mobilize forces to counter or meet the newest threat. That's why deception and feinting is critical to your success.� Try to figure out where he is most afraid of you striking.� Try to feed his feers slowly and believably.� Then strike elsewhere hard and fast. I'm sure you know this, but I was in the mood to type this morning. Hi CR...thanks. Well, it's a bit hard now to play deception for the obvious reason that i'm slowly finishing my possible options. With the whole DEI-SRA-MALAYA-BURMA-INDIA in his hands (and, above all, with the allies completely pushed out of these theatres) and with the Bonins-Marcus-Wake so strongly garrisoned, the only options i have are in SOPAC-SWPAC...and Rader knows it. However, i have another plan. Instead of ignoring the object of my attentions in order to make Rader look elsewhere, i'll try to show him a growing interest in many more areas. This should puzzle Rader in the same way (cause if many areas are under my attentions, he will never know which of them i'm really going to strike) and, at the same time, will give me more infos in order to decide what, when and where to do. So in the next days we'll start reconning Timor and the southern Mollucches, NG and PM, the Solomons and the Gilberts/Marshalls. I still have the original plan for Tarawa and i'm almost ready to pull the trigger on it. It will be a small scale plan and i'll use my CVs in cover that will have to pass by in their journey towards Oz. Having Tarawa and Abenama in my hands will give me a strong position in the Gilberts and at the same time will threaten his main bases up in the Marshalls. I won't committ much however. 2 RGTs that will land and will soon go away, substituted by CD guns, Seabees and base forces. I'm not looking for POW camps...[;)] What d'u guys think about the composition of forces we've found and Jodpur?

Canoerebel -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 4:58:07 PM)
Yet another GreyJoy touch: Mollucches. As for the size of rader's force at Jodpur, he doesn't have close to enough. But the sheer size and scope of what he's brought to India is stunning. So stunning he probably merits a fine by the AE Kangaroo Court. He also deserves fines for giving you three months to get ready, and for inexplicably failing to close the sea lanes to Karachi yet again.

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 5:13:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel Yet another GreyJoy touch:� Mollucches. As for the size of rader's force at Jodpur, he doesn't have close to enough.� But the sheer size and scope of what he's brought to India is stunning.� So stunning he probably merits a fine by the AE Kangaroo Court.� He also deserves fines for giving you three months to get ready, and for inexplicably failing to close the sea lanes to Karachi yet again. I think it's better to talk about it when this will all be over...Rader is too competent and too expert not to have valued the consequences of his strategies and of his timings. If you read his AAR about the invasion of the USSR, you can see that he had evaluated everything...i'm sure he has a plan...still don't know what but he has it. He may well arrive to Karachi, siege the city, leave there 4000 AVs to keep my army blocked and then move away his mighty forces and invade somewhere else...or simply put himself on the defensive and garrison everything... Don't know...but i'm sure it's too early to say his strategy was wrong

witpqs -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 5:23:03 PM)
Could be Operation Fortitude writ large. Instead of the real deal those might be inflatable tanks leading plywood artillery pieces and so on. [X(] [:D]

ny59giants -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 5:23:08 PM)
Not knowing the disposition of your merchant fleet, I like to use the Euro L (spd 17; capacity 0/7580/550; endurance 14,000); Euro K (spd 14; capacity 0/5600/200; endurance 17,900); and C3-E (spd 17; capacity 0/5750/400; endurance 15,600) to move fuel in addition to TKs and AOs in the eastern Pacific. Why?? They already have some liquid capacity and they are faster than your 12 knot xAKs. You have to do your planning to have them and their escorts able to get to their destination, but be able to return to USA without refueling at their destination.

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 5:31:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Not knowing the disposition of your merchant fleet, I like to use the Euro L (spd 17; capacity 0/7580/550; endurance 14,000); Euro K (spd 14; capacity 0/5600/200; endurance 17,900); and C3-E (spd 17; capacity 0/5750/400; endurance 15,600) to move fuel in addition to TKs and AOs in the eastern Pacific. Why?? They already have some liquid capacity and they are faster than most of the 12 knot xAKs. You have to do your planning to have them and their escorts able to get to their destination, but be able to return to USA without refueling at their destination. Very usefull NY59! Thanks! Actually my merchant fleet is a mess...i've been lazy and i always mix different types of merchants...i know i need to reorganize it but every turn there seems to be a more important task to accomplish for them and i never do.... But now the need to have fuel for my upcoming operations will force me to re-organize it all. I promise i will! and i will follow your precious suggestion Thanks

SoliInvictus202 -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 5:37:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel Yet another GreyJoy touch:� Mollucches. As for the size of rader's force at Jodpur, he doesn't have close to enough.� But the sheer size and scope of what he's brought to India is stunning.� So stunning he probably merits a fine by the AE Kangaroo Court.� He also deserves fines for giving you three months to get ready, and for inexplicably failing to close the sea lanes to Karachi yet again. anybody ever thought about that with all the time rader put into the game he didn't want it to finish by January 1st '43? (I for one like the defensive war just as much as the offensive one!) anyway...it doesn't really matter does it?... just felt the need to type as well...

ny59giants -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 6:01:58 PM)
I have made a list of my early war merchant fleet. Here it is. Pacific L - spd 12 - Endurance 12,000 - Capacity 3900 - CONVERT to xAP (asap) Dominion M - spd 13 - Endurance 14,600 - Capacity 5550 - CONVERT to xAP (asap) C1-A Cargo - spd 14 - Endurance 19,300 - Capacity 4550 - CONVERT to xAP (2/42) C2 Cargo - spd 16 - Endurance 13,500 - Capacity 5800 - CONVERT to xAP (2/42) --------------- ALL end up operating from West Coast USA Euro M - spd 14 - Endurance 12,300 - Capacity 4175 - Remain in IO (Cape Town, Aden, & Abadan) Dominion L - spd 12 - Endurance 16,800 - Capacity 6400 - Remain in IO Pacific M - spd 12 - Endurance 6,000 - Capacity 2900 - Remain in IO (Abadan to Karachi) -------------- My IO merchant fleet Luckenback - spd 12 - Endurance 16,600 - Capacity 6360 - West Coast Harriman - spd 12 - Endurance 14,900 - Capacity 5250 - West Coast Isthmian - spd 12 - Endurance 13,600 - Capacity 4800 - West Coast Southwest - spd 14 - Endurance 13,200 - Capacity 6410 - West Coast Hog Island - spd 12 - Endurance 14,700 - Capacity 4900 - West Coast Transmarine - spd 12 - Endurance 11,000 - Capacity 3200 - West Coast (Convoys to Pearl x2, Kodiak, Christmas) ------------------Slow , but steady Pacific merchant fleet. I have 2 x 25 ship CS Convoys going from San Fran to Pearl with Transmarine carrying supplies. They have lowest Endurance, so operate in eastern Pacific ONLY C3 - E Cargo - spd 17 - Endurance 15,6000 - Capacity 6150 - West Coast (fuel) Euro L - spd 17 - Endurance 14,000 - Capacity 8130 - West Coast (fuel) Euro K - spd 14 - Endurance 17,900 - Capacity 5800 - West coast (fuel) ----------------- My extra xAKs to move fuel I may have missed some class, but you want to get similar speed in one TF and then Endurance, if possible. Hope this helps!

jeffk3510 -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 6:10:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants I have made a list of my early war merchant fleet. Here it is. Pacific L - spd 12 - Endurance 12,000 - Capacity 3900 - CONVERT to xAP (asap) Dominion M - spd 13 - Endurance 14,600 - Capacity 5550 - CONVERT to xAP (asap) C1-A Cargo - spd 14 - Endurance 19,300 - Capacity 4550 - CONVERT to xAP (2/42) C2 Cargo - spd 16 - Endurance 13,500 - Capacity 5800 - CONVERT to xAP (2/42) --------------- ALL end up operating from West Coast USA Euro M - spd 14 - Endurance 12,300 - Capacity 4175 - Remain in IO (Cape Town, Aden, & Abadan) Dominion L - spd 12 - Endurance 16,800 - Capacity 6400 - Remain in IO Pacific M - spd 12 - Endurance 6,000 - Capacity 2900 - Remain in IO (Abadan to Karachi) -------------- My IO merchant fleet Luckenback - spd 12 - Endurance 16,600 - Capacity 6360 - West Coast Harriman - spd 12 - Endurance 14,900 - Capacity 5250 - West Coast Isthmian - spd 12 - Endurance 13,600 - Capacity 4800 - West Coast Southwest - spd 14 - Endurance 13,200 - Capacity 6410 - West Coast Hog Island - spd 12 - Endurance 14,700 - Capacity 4900 - West Coast Transmarine - spd 12 - Endurance 11,000 - Capacity 3200 - West Coast (Convoys to Pearl x2, Kodiak, Christmas) ------------------Slow , but steady Pacific merchant fleet. I have 2 x 25 ship CS Convoys going from San Fran to Pearl with Transmarine carrying supplies. They have lowest Endurance, so operate in eastern Pacific ONLY C3 - E Cargo - spd 17 - Endurance 15,6000 - Capacity 6150 - West Coast (fuel) Euro L - spd 17 - Endurance 14,000 - Capacity 8130 - West Coast (fuel) Euro K - spd 14 - Endurance 17,900 - Capacity 5800 - West coast (fuel) ----------------- My extra xAKs to move fuel I may have missed some class, but you want to get similar speed in one TF and then Endurance, if possible. Hope this helps! Do you tuck away all of the classes that convert to APAs?

ny59giants -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 6:34:17 PM)
quote: Do you tuck away all of the classes that convert to APAs? Of course!![;)] I might use them when they are still APs until I can get most of the conversions done by early '42. They go from large port to large port. Many of the Dominion M and Pacific L start in IO and need to get to USA via Cape Town along with a 24 days conversion delay. They don't have the speed and capacity, but all are smaller than 6000 ton and can dock at all those small ports in the beginning. I'd rather have them sunk by KB than the future APAs that will be needed later in the war.

JohnDillworth -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 7:45:59 PM)
quote: Actually my merchant fleet is a mess...i've been lazy and i always mix different types of merchants...i know i need to reorganize it but every turn there seems to be a more important task to accomplish for them and i never do.... But now the need to have fuel for my upcoming operations will force me to re-organize it all. I promise i will! and i will follow your precious suggestion You should move whatever fuel is in Capetown over to Perth. You can use AK's if you don't have TK's. There is not a limitless amount of fuel there, but anything you move to Perth will be distributed through Australia. Mostly to Sydney. From the West Coast I use the 8k tankers to fill up Hawaii for now. The 12k's I shuttle to Pago Pago, then off to whatever bases you have in the SW Pacific

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 9:17:17 PM)
Sorry guys...will reply about the merchant fleet later...now there's an important update sept 27-28 1942 The Air MeatGrinder has started back again over Karachi. Rader sent 300 A6M3s on sweep, followed by 200 brand new OscarsII and 200 Tojos... My new spitfires did wonders and so did the p-39s flying at 9k...while my P-40Es got really chewed up...The new P-38F seems to work worse than its precessor of the E model... Over 2 days of this mess we lost 125 planes while Rader only 205...not even 1-2...[:o]...Tojos seem to be untouchable... Overall i'm not that happy with these results...we performed defenetly better 2 months ago with worse a/c... Especially my Hurri IIa did worse than the c model...which should not be... While i can say i'm happy with the new P40K...they did really good especially against the A6M3s... 25 pilots KIA and 39 WIA today...but pilots aren't a problem anyway... However...there isn't much i can do now...have to struggle on and defend till the very last airframe... My CVs are on the move. At Rabaul a BB and 2 CS are spotted...i think it's the same TF that used to operate in March between NZ and OZ...BB Mutsu should be the flag ship. will have to pay attention... [image]local://upfiles/37890/E5575B08FF364A228FB9F708513470DE.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 9:20:39 PM)
NY59...THANKS! awesome hints! I'll try to set it up right away! JohnDill...yes, i'm already doing it since the beginning (when NY59Giants enlight me about that). Huge convoys of 100k fuel are moving between EC and CT and from CT to Perth...however it takes a lot of time in order to have a decent amount of fuel in Oz...and i need fuel at Christmas, Pago and Suva at the moment...however now i'm working on it! Thanks a lot guys!!

Canoerebel -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 9:54:52 PM)
GreyJoy, your expectations are a victim of your own success here.� Nearly every Allied player would drool, pant, and lust after the kind of results you've been achieving in the air, especially for Scenario Two.� Most Allies players are very decidely on the losing end of the air war in 1942, but you are inflicting terrible punishment on rader.� If he can takes 2:1 losses in the air for weeks or months into the future, so that he ends up winning the campaign, you really can't take the blame - you've done everything possible and performed well in that regard. But�rader can't sustain these losses.� He's got to be chewing his fingernails to the quick.� He's commiting sepuku by waiting so long and then charging into the teeth of well-prepared defenses.

JohnDillworth -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 10:58:05 PM)
quote: JohnDill...yes, i'm already doing it since the beginning (when NY59Giants enlight me about that). Huge convoys of 100k fuel are moving between EC and CT and from CT to Perth...however it takes a lot of time in order to have a decent amount of fuel in Oz...and i need fuel at Christmas, Pago and Suva at the moment...however now i'm working on it! Thanks a lot guys!! After the losses at Savo Island there was consideration given to moving 5 old BB's to the SW Pacific to make up for the losses and provide some punch against the seemingly unstoppable Japanese. Problem was the they just would not be able to keep them gassed up. I don't have the reference handy but those 5 old BB could chew up tremendous amounts of fuel. I presume the Japanese suffered the some logistical bottlenecks, but they managed to put 4 BC's (or light BB's) into the fight.

ny59giants -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 11:10:20 PM)
I'm in mid-Nov 42 playing as Japan. Tojo kick butt and don't take any names!! [:D] I have four groups that are getting better and better every time the Allies fly over their base. You will find out how 'nasty' they are once he gets a large enough base 8 hexes away. I have re-started a game as Allies and we are only in mid-Jan 42 and I'm not looking forward to seeing them in less than 6 months. [X(] Your problem is not going to be pilots as you are fighting over your base, it will be airframes. SUBS Midway - I know you have plans for attacks in Solomons and other areas. But this base should be maxed out, have an AS and AR there, and have a steady flow of fuel there for your subs. Subs out of Midway should be both north and south of Formosa, and covering the southern tip of Luzon. Aleutians - Another AS should be at Dutch or Adak. They should be up around Hokkaido slowing down resource convoys Townsville - Another base for subs. they should be around Truk from here and Rabaul. Perth - The SRA should be hit from here since you don't have India. Use waypoints to get them to patrol points. Have them go the the straits between Java and Timor (as destinations - Remain on Station) and then assign patrol zones once they get there. Check on your supply of mines for subs. Form 2 to 4 subs TF on Minelaying missions. I would use some of those long legged American subs (the ones with still high dud rates [:D]) to come up from Perth to the north around Sumatra and mine Malacca Straits close to Singapore. There are a few shallow sea hexes that he has to transit. Add in the hex just off of Palembang, Balikpapan, and Soerabaja. Look to lay them in shallow sea hexes, not just bases. Use your subs right now to be a PITA and start to find out if he is lazy in his transport paths. You get better torpedoes in 1/43, so work on this area now. P.S. I was in USN for 6 years and spent time on AS-34 USS Canopus, so i have a soft spot for subs and ASW efforts.

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/21/2011 11:46:48 PM)
Sept 29-30 1942 Again a day of harsh fightings over Karachi...even if less bloody than yesterday. But odds are getting worse. 70 planes lost for me and only 116 for him. The Spits are really making my day...too bad i have no replacements for them cause they won't enter into production for another year...[:o] He already has a base 8 hexes from Karachi...Jodpur...i knew that's why he badly wanted it...TOJOs!! Today he conquered Bikaner (east of Jodpur) with a para unit that pushed back my little base force...could not do anything more... Sorry for this very short update but tonight i really cannot type anymore...too tired...tomorrow we'll talk deeply about everything! Still thanks guys...i mean it

Erkki -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/22/2011 7:16:50 AM)
Ki-44 "Shoki" = "Devil" [;)] What size is the Jodphur AF? If you think he only has Ki-44s there(and at least no Ki-45s), nuke it one more time with your 4Es before withdrawing at least the majority of them from this front. Ki-44 has no armor and is armed with just machine guns, your 4Es will take some casualties but will do about 5:1 or so against them, thus contributing in the aerial battle of attrition. Also remember to send the bombers in at max house rule allowed altitude to minimize AAA losses - he probably wont have many planes on the ground any way. With some luck the first day will have poor weather and the Ki-44 sweep gets cancelled(or doenst fly in the morning phase) and you will catch most of them over Jodphur - at least damaging 75%+ of them. [:D]

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/22/2011 8:04:15 AM)
Oct 1,2 1942 And we reached October... Rader today sent a smaller amount of fighters on sweep. The usual 200 Tojos from Jodpur and some 100 between Oscars and Zeros from Surat. The fightings were lighter than usual (probably due to the bad weather conditions). We lost 22 total planes (only 11 in A2A) while he lost 56 airframes. Spits continue to rule the skies even if today we lost our major ace - a spitfire pilot with 14 kills![:o]. The weight of the battle will slowly shift towards the US pilots now...within the next week my hurri IIa pool will get empty and i'll have to withdrawn some squadrons...P-40, P-39 and P-38s will be the core or our defence, with those 2 groups of Spits our sword. However i'm noticing that the P-39s, operating at <10k are really doing very well...with good pilots and at the good altitudes these a/c can hold their own... While i'm very upset about the Hurricanes...MkIIa,b or c doesn't really matter...at 20k they suck...[:(] He sent 300 bombers at Multan...for sure he wants to suppress this base once for all. We're expecting a big para-drop from Tomorrow...and i'm pretty sure the base will then fall. However now i followed the Andy's suggestion and moved a unit right on the crossroad...no stra-moving for him[;)]. So we'll let him take it this time...and we'll bomb the hell out of it tomorrow!...with no AA nor base force able to train-transport we'll be able to keep it shut! I'm not sending my 4Es against Jodpur which is already a level 9 AF...too much flak there...no matter which is the altitude...even at 25k my 4Es get mauled...and i mean annihilated! Last time we tried this against Surat it was a complete cathastrophe...even at 22k feet! No, we'll keep using my 4Es to threaten his less defended bases or his advancing troops....this is forcing Rader to keep a good number of planes on CAP-LRCAP...and planes on CAP are not sweeping Karachi...plus he'll be forced to mass his flak to only one base at time cause if he wants his flak to be a real deterrent he knows he has to mass it! NY59Giants...for what concerns subs, i'm still using them as a "recon" force. Every time i dare to get close to an "important" point his Helens on ASW kill my sub in a couple of passages...for sure Rader isn't getting lazy on the ASW matter...Truk, Rabaul, The Bonins, Saipan, Paramushiro....all these areas have plenty of air ASW assets...we have already tested it. However i'll try to move more subs to Perth (at the moment only 5 of them are operating there) in order to start arrassing the DEI...if i can i want at least to force him not to concentrate too much his assets... At the moment i have sub bases (with AS, fuel and stuff) at Perth, Canton Isl., Suva, Brisbane , Addak Island and Karachi (but in the latter my subs are operating only as a defensive shield for Karachi Harbour). I setted up the first C3 Cargo Convoy only moving fuel from SF to Pagop Pago following Ny59 Suggestion. My goal is using the month of october to completely reorganize and rationalize my merchant fleet. Rader during the last 2 days setted up a picket line all around SOPAC with his PBs...the line goes from PM to New Caledonia to southern Solomons. My CVs are almost ready to get into action escorting a little invasion fleet bounded for Tarawa. At Tarawa only a small unit is reported... At Brisbane everything is ready for the PM invasion fleet...we'll just wait for the CVs to get there. At Rabaul 7 units for 6500/7000 men are confirmed. I think this info is reliable now after so many days of recon.

CaptBeefheart -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/22/2011 9:38:23 AM)
I hope you didn't lose Cooper-Slipper, my favorite RAF pilot. Also, I really like the P-40K in 1942, but nothing beats a Spit VIII. Keep up the highly entertaining AAR and good shooting! Cheers, CC

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/22/2011 10:20:24 AM)
Forgot to say that we sent another recon-kamikaze unit at Jodpur... he has slightly encreased the AV but he's nowhere close to the needed 30k! Ground combat at Jodphur (45,14) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 294593 troops, 3354 guns, 3981 vehicles, Assault Value = 11170 Defending force 79 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Japanese adjusted assault: 8085 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 8085 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: op mode(-), preparation(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 63 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Allied ground losses: 64 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Assaulting units: 143rd Infantry Regiment 61st Infantry Brigade Yokosuka 3rd SNLF 5th Guards Cav Regiment 2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment 38th Division 6th Tank Regiment 7th Ind.Tank Brigade 15th Guards Regiment 48th Engineer Regiment 5th Division 21st Division 16th Recon Regiment 10th Tank Regiment 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment 1st Raiding Regiment 44th Naval Guard Unit 52nd Division 51st Recon Regiment Yokosuka Assault SNLF 23rd Tank Regiment 301st Ind.Infantry Battalion 11th Tank Regiment 2nd Recon Regiment 2nd Raiding Regiment 2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment 144th Infantry Regiment 39th Division 148th Infantry Regiment 14th Guards Regiment 4th Guards Division 15th Division 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment 17th Indpt Guards Regiment 23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment 4th Ind.Mixed Regiment 33rd Infantry Regiment 33rd Division 8th Tank Regiment 7th Tank Regiment 17th Division 16th Guards Regiment 37th Division Imperial Guards Division 16th Engineer Regiment 5th Guards Engineer Regiment Yokosuka Assault SNLF /2 Guards Tank Division 146th Infantry Regiment 55th Engineer Regiment 2nd Tank Regiment 6th Guards Division 9th Tank Regiment Yokosuka 1st SNLF 53rd Division 5th Tank Regiment 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment 14th Tank Regiment 43rd Naval Guard Unit 4th Division 1st Mobile Infantry Regiment 32nd Division 13th Tank Regiment 1st Tank Regiment 4th Tank Regiment 12th Tank Regiment 3rd Tank Regiment 6th Indpt SNLF Coy 54th Division 15th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 1st Mobile AA Battalion 2nd Ind.AA Gun Co 23rd Port Unit 1st Ind.AA Gun Co 49th Field AA Battalion 32nd Ind.AA Gun Co 22nd Fld AA Gun Co 6th Field AF Construction Battalion 1st RF Gun Battalion 35th JAAF AF Bn 43rd Ind.AA Gun Co 21st Fld AA Gun Co 35th Const Co 4th RF Gun Battalion 12th Ind.AA Gun Co 25th Air Defense AA Regiment 1st Air Defense AA Battalion 2nd RF Gun Battalion 44th Ind.AA Gun Co 26th Air Defense AA Regiment 7th RF Gun Battalion 57th Field AA Battalion 21st JAAF AF Bn 31st Road Const Co 34th Field AA Battalion 3rd Mortar Battalion 21st Air Defense AA Regiment 2nd Air Division 36th Field AA Battalion 21st Ind.AA Gun Co 40th Const Co 15th Const Co 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 54th Field AA Battalion 15th JAAF Base Force 4th Naval Construction Battalion 41st Ind.AA Gun Co 5th Field AF Construction Battalion 34th Ind.AA Gun Co 41st Air Defense AA Battalion 41st Air Defense AA Regiment 13th JAAF AF Bn 27th JAAF AF Bn 3rd FF Const Unit 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 5th Mortar Battalion 7th Field AF Construction Battalion 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 6th RF Gun Battalion 56th Const Co 6th JNAF AF Unit 1st Mobile Field Artillery Regiment 47th Field AA Battalion 48th Road Const Co 32nd Air Defense AA Battalion 29th Fld AA Gun Co 30th Fld AA Gun Co 11th RF Gun Battalion 42nd Ind.AA Gun Co 3rd Ind.AA Gun Co 3rd RF Gun Battalion 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 12th Air Defense AA Regiment 23rd AA Regiment 36th Const Co 4th Air Defense AA Regiment 20th AA Regiment 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 39th Road Const Co 53rd Field AA Battalion 50th Field AA Battalion 37th Const Co 52nd Const Co 9th RF Gun Battalion 22nd Port Unit 22nd AA Regiment 5th RF Gun Battalion 26th Fld AA Gun Co 9th Field AF Construction Battalion 35th Fld AA Gun Co 56th Field AA Battalion 54th Const Co 8th Field AF Construction Battalion 47th Road Const Co 48th Field Artillery Regiment 45th Road Const Co 25th JNAF AF Unit 31st Fld AA Gun Co 51st Const Co 1st Air Defense AA Regiment 25th Army 10th RF Gun Battalion 27th Fld AA Gun Co 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 51st Field AA Battalion 48th Field AA Battalion 43rd Const Co 31st Field AA Battalion 23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 39th Field AA Battalion 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 8th RF Gun Battalion 56th Field Artillery Regiment 22nd Ind.AA Gun Co 28th Fld AA Gun Co 31st Air Defense AA Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 55th Const Co 55th Field AA Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 35th Field AA Battalion 2nd Mobile AA Battalion 45th Ind.AA Gun Co 12th Ind. AA Battalion 41st Field AA Battalion 32nd Field AA Battalion 23rd Ind.AA Gun Co 53rd Const Co 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 55th Mountain Gun Regiment 144th JAAF AF Bn 49th Const Co 13th Ind.AA Gun Co Southern Army 38th Field AA Battalion 21st Army Defending units: 1/3 Det. West Coast

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/22/2011 10:27:03 AM)
So, following my calculation, in India, ready to advance towards Karachi he has the equivalent of 18 Divisions, 25 Regiments and 30 tank regiments......not bad[sm=00000117.gif]

ADB123 -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/22/2011 11:03:39 AM)
quote: Forgot to say that we sent another recon-kamikaze unit at Jodpur... he has slightly encreased the AV but he's nowhere close to the needed 30k! You are taking advantage of the game mechanics here. I'm not impressed.

GreyJoy -> RE: LOD IS CROSSED (6/22/2011 11:07:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ADB123 quote: Forgot to say that we sent another recon-kamikaze unit at Jodpur... he has slightly encreased the AV but he's nowhere close to the needed 30k! You are taking advantage of the game mechanics here. I'm not impressed. You mean it's considered gamey? Those units were pushed out from Jodpur into the desert and they marched back to Jodpur. Could you please explain me why is not considered fair? I would not want Rader to think i do something "gamey"... thanks

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