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Captain Cruft -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/17/2011 1:34:33 AM)
Is he suppressing your airfields?

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/17/2011 6:03:50 PM)
Cruft, Yes he is. I am managing to get him to hit my front-line airfields - where I'm mostly basing second-line fighters ( early models of the A6, N1K and Ki-84 ). He is hitting those airbases hard every night... which is something I'm encouraging through allowing him access to those airframes since that is setting him up for my riposte due in 2 or 3 days, depending on bomber placement. My Glens are just about in position. Today was a bad day for Hapan as my fighters proved incapable of keeping his CV-based airpower from destroying many ships around Amami Oshima. I'll give the higlights below.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 30,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-840 MTB G-845 MTB G-872 MTB G-882 MTB G-1003 MTB G-1025 Allied Ships BB Nevada BB Arkansas CL Detroit DD Talbot DD Dent DD Crosby DD Kennison SC-642 SC-644 AKA Starr AKA Stokes LSV Saugus LSD Shadwell LCI-986 LCI-987 LCI-988 LCI-989 LCI-990 LCI-991 LCI-992 LCI-993 LCI-994 LCI-995 xAK Bowdoin Victory xAK Bozeman Victory PF Pasco PF Everett AP Gen. H.W.Butner AP Gen. W.M.Mitchell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Shinyo DD Shinyo, Shell hits 13, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Boise CL Honolulu CL Amsterdam DD Marshall DD McCord DD McDermut DD McGowan, Shell hits 2 DD McKee DD McNair -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 5,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-548 MTB G-555 MTB G-841 MTB G-848 MTB G-873, Shell hits 2, and is sunk MTB G-451 Allied Ships CL Boise CL Honolulu CL Amsterdam DD Marshall DD McCord DD McDermut DD McGowan DD McKee DD McNair -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-1022 MTB G-1027, Shell hits 3, and is sunk MTB G-155 MTB G-156 MTB G-165 MTB G-12, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Boise CL Honolulu CL Amsterdam DD Marshall DD McCord DD McDermut DD McGowan DD McKee DD McNair -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 5,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-843 MTB G-879 MTB G-884 MTB G-885 MTB G-887, Shell hits 6, and is sunk MTB G-888, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Nevada BB Arkansas CL Detroit DD Talbot DD Dent DD Crosby DD Kennison SC-642 SC-644 AKA Starr AKA Stokes LSV Saugus, Shell hits 1 LSD Shadwell LCI-986 LCI-987 LCI-988 LCI-989 LCI-990 LCI-991 LCI-992 LCI-993, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LCI-994, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LCI-995, Shell hits 1 xAK Bowdoin Victory xAK Bozeman Victory, Shell hits 3, on fire PF Pasco PF Everett AP Gen. H.W.Butner AP Gen. W.M.Mitchell -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Naha at 95,68 Japanese Ships SS Ha-D-140, hits 26, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Phoenix DD Robinson DD Hawkins DD McCook DD Doyle DD Rowe DD Ross SS Ha-D-140 is sighted by escort DD McCook attacking submerged sub .... DD Doyle fails to find sub and abandons search DD Rowe attacking submerged sub .... SS Ha-D-140 forced to surface! DD Rowe firing on surfaced sub .... DD Ross firing on surfaced sub .... Sub slips beneath the waves -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Naha at 95,68 Japanese Ships SS Ha-D-141, hits 36, heavy damage Allied Ships CL Nashville DD Owen DD Benson DD Stephen Potter DD Picking DD Philip -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Tokara Retto at 99,63 Japanese Ships PB Saiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAK Natisan Maru PB Sozan Maru Allied Ships SS Bumper, hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 137 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 6 Ki-264 Angel x 77 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 29 P-61C Black Widow x 18 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 F6F-3N Hellcat x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed Ki-264 Angel: 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 damaged P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed on ground F4U-4 Corsair: 3 destroyed on ground P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: 5 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 10 There were many, many more PT encounters and also many more raids on the airbases. I am just showing these as representative of the whole. Each of the combat replay files is about 4Mb in size, about 33% greater than normal. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-32 Dominator x 35 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed on ground Ki-94-II: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Allied suppression of Japanese airbases. No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 132 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Japanese aircraft J1N1-S Irving x 8 Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 4 Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 241 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged Japanese Ships xAKL Tatibana Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage BB Nagato, Bomb hits 1 CL Kashima, Bomb hits 2, on fire xAP Baikal Maru, Bomb hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 37 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 32 No Allied losses Heavy Industry hits 6 Manpower hits 182 Fires 60241 Day Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 94,67, Range 8,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Shinyo, Shell hits 10, and is sunk DD Shinyo, Shell hits 8, and is sunk DD Shinyo, Shell hits 5, and is sunk DD Shinyo, Shell hits 2, and is sunk Allied Ships CA Baltimore CL Birmingham CL Mobile CL Biloxi CL Miami DD Taussig DD Waldron DD Black DD Boyd DD Bradford DD Braine DD Brown DD Bryant DD Bullard DD Burns This is what happens when the Allies meet Shinyos during the daytime. At night, however, the Shinyos manage to do quite some harm. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Amami Oshima , at 98,64 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 45,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 15 N1K5-J George x 34 Ki-84b Frank x 4 Ki-84r Frank x 10 Ki-100-I Tony x 7 Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 47 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed N1K5-J George: 5 destroyed Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 36 x P-51H Mustang sweeping at 41600 feet P-51 H sweeps at high altitude are murderous. The Allies get about 250 of these planes per month and my second-line fighters simply cannot survive in the air vs the P-51Hs when they are on CAP over their own bases or not fatigued by long oversea flights. When I meet P-51Hs at the end of a 20 hex flight to the target though my fighters do noticeably better. That's a nice outcome of the game design. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Batan Island at 85,69 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft Ohka Model 22 x 16 Japanese aircraft losses Ohka Model 22: 8 destroyed Allied Ships CA Shropshire DD Sigsbee DD Dunlap Aircraft Attacking: 16 x Ohka Model 22 flying as kamikaze Kamikaze: 1 x Ohka Bomb This is the first kamikaze attack of the war which actually got through to attack the enemy ships. Of course there was no CAP. Still, I think I'll begin expending some Ohkas on targets of opportunity around Okinawa. I have to harrass the Allies somewhat. I also will begin committing a small number of torpedo-bombers to night-time torpedo attacks just to try to push the Allies back a little - right now they are directly beside Okinawa and able to provide far too much LRCAP for my tastes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Amami Oshima at 98,64 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 55 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 1 N1K5-J George x 2 Ki-84b Frank x 3 Ki-84r Frank x 7 Ki-100-I Tony x 5 Allied aircraft FM-1 Wildcat x 12 F4U-1D Corsair x 64 F6F-5 Hellcat x 33 SBD-6 Dauntless x 14 TBM-3 Avenger x 57 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-1 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed SBD-6 Dauntless: 1 damaged Japanese Ships xAK Kogane Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires xAK Daijo Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Matumoto Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire xAKL Kyodo Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage E No.97, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Keyaki xAK Kyusyu Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires xAK Okiyu Maru, Bomb hits 1 xAK Matsue Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Asukasan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire E No.124, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Take AMC Nosiro Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Tuyama Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire E No.71, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Ikuta Maru xAK Hakkaisan Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires xAK Syoan Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires xAKL Tatsuaoi Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage E No.102, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk Japanese ground losses: 66 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 17 (3 destroyed, 14 disabled) Vehicles lost 8 (5 destroyed, 3 disabled) A high cost but worth it. I have decided to use Amami Oshima as a supply hub. Ships will load at Kagoshima, move through the shallow waters ( which I've mined wherever there is shallow water and a base ) to Amami Oshima. Barges with a couple of SC as escort will then carry the goods and troops to Okinawa. From now on I can hugely reduce my vulnerability to enemy air attack. Unfortunately to create the supply hub I need to sacrifice these ( and more ) ships for the next couple of days. The actual CR is about 4 times this size with many more surface clashes and suchlike. My airgroups around Okinawa are beginning to shatter. I'll keep them there for a few more days... and then I'll strike the B-29 bases with my Ki-264s. Once that's done I'll pull out my fighters and only carry out pinprick ambushes from time to time to keep the Allies honest. Allied forces get 3,400 B-29s during the course of this scenario. At present they have 600 on-map. This means that over the next 15 months they get roughly 240 per month. That means I have to kill 8 B-29s per day in order to keep up with replacements.

SuluSea -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/17/2011 6:32:20 PM)
How many Ohka model 22s does this mod start out with and what are you able to produce under the best case scenario ,if you don't mind me asking?

jeffk3510 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/17/2011 6:36:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nemo121 My airgroups around Okinawa are beginning to shatter. I'll keep them there for a few more days... and then I'll strike the B-29 bases with my Ki-264s. Once that's done I'll pull out my fighters and only carry out pinprick ambushes from time to time to keep the Allies honest. Allied forces get 3,400 B-29s during the course of this scenario. At present they have 600 on-map. This means that over the next 15 months they get roughly 240 per month. That means I have to kill 8 B-29s per day in order to keep up with replacements. [X(][X(][X(][X(]

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/17/2011 7:38:26 PM)
Well, so far I'm hitting a rate of 20-30 B-29s destroyed per day so things aren't going too badly. The cost is pretty horrific for Japan but 20 days of losing 30 B-29s per day will wreck his bomber force for a couple of months. So, it is possible if you're willing to take the horrific casualties necessary. Don't forget that we're actually some time ahead so I happen to know that Operation Keep the B-29s Moving is working out pretty well [8D]. Obviously I'd prefer if this was contemperaneous as that'd be more fun and interesting but due to FatR that isn't possible at this stage. I do plan to creep closer and closer to contemperaneous though if he remains outside of this thread and doesn't contact my opponent leaking my plans and dispositions.

Captain Cruft -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/18/2011 2:17:26 AM)
I know this isn't Downfall exactly, but I reckon from my brief experience playing that scen that if the Allies put everything into comprehensive airfield destruction before even attempting to do anything else then Japan is hosed. It just doesn't have the engineers to repair it all, and then there is the much under-estimated morale hit to any airgroup which gets bombed on the ground. Without airfields Japan has, regardless of anything else, no teeth. If I was playing the Allies I would even cruise my CVs around bombing the more remote airbases in NE Japan etc.

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/20/2011 1:55:04 AM)
Hmm, the forum ate my last reply. So, I'll just post the highlights again. Cruft, Yes he is suppressing my airfields but that's all part of the plan. Make him suppress my airfields instead of hitting HI and then use his suppression of my airfields to manoeuvre him into position such that he uses his own initiative to create the conditions which make him vulnerable to a counter-strike. Today that happened. 9 PT Boats were sunk over the course of about a half-dozen skirmishes with USN surface combatants around Okinawa. The USN has also deployed an ASW TF at Okinawa. Tomorrow I'll commit some Ohkas to try and take them out. I might get lucky - although the random CAP altitude bug is still present. Anyways, it'll complicate his defensive dispositions and spread his fighters thinner. Night Air attack on Amami Oshima , at 98,64 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 230 The big raid of the day... Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84r Frank: 9 destroyed on ground N1K5-J George: 7 destroyed on ground Ki-100-I Tony: 6 destroyed on ground N1K2-J George: 12 destroyed on ground N1K1-J George: 12 destroyed on ground Ki-84b Frank: 4 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 25 Airbase supply hits 7 Runway hits 60 This was expensive bait but only the Ki-84r and N1K5J are first-line fighters anymore so the rest are expendable --- particularly as I plan to use them in the kamikaze role once I make enough J7Ws and Ki-94s. The great thing about this attack ( another 150 B29s followed over the course of the night to make for a total raid of 400 B29s ) is that by attacking at night for a second night running I was able to be sure his bombers would be on the ground during daytime... Thus my second major riposte of the war could go ahead --- a daylight Ki-264 raid on the Marianas. Morning Air attack on Saipan , at 108,93 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 175 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 36 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 121 Allied aircraft F6F-5 Hellcat x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 9 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 22 The results in terms of destroyed planes wasn't amazing - only 18 destroyed on the ground - BUT several score B-29s were damaged and will be easy pickings tomorrow night, when the Ki-264s will attack again. Remember, I need to kill 8 a day to keep B-29 levels steady. Any more than that and I'm actually reducing B-29 numbers. Several USN strikes went in around Okinawa. My CAP got roughly handled by P-51Hs while my fightes got in amongst the bombers and destroyed 20 or 30 of them. Overall I shot down more planes than I lost and suffered far fewer fighter losses. Tomorrow, for the first time since we realised there was a bug, I'm going to try introducing a few kamikazes into the fray around Okinawa and Formosa on a test basis. I think I've found a way to have them be effective even in spite of the bug. We'll see if it works or not. In addition the Ki-264s will return this evening, after detection levels were boosted by multiple Glen recons during the day --- I think one result I only had about 18 kills was because my D/L was only 3/10. This evening it should be 9/10 so I'm hoping to destroy quite a few of the damaged and grounded bombers. The idea is to spread his fighters out to cover all of his rear echelon bases, leaving fewer at the front killing my fighters and also to cause his bombers attritional losses AND decreased operational readiness due to constant shifting of their bases. In other news the changeover to new fighter types is going well. I have 4 xx Ki-94 and 4 x J7W fighter groups in service now. I am experiencing a bottleneck in engine production for the Ki-94 but should have that sorted by the end of the month. Right now I'm making about 10 of each fighter per day. By month's end I should be making 15 to 16 Ki-94s per dayand about 12 J7Ws per day. Once I've upgraded the squadrons I need I will look into transferring the older planes ( A6M7s, Ki-61s, N1Ks, Ki-84s etc into kamikazes). With sacrificial escorts of poor bombload fighters ( Ki-44, A6M5 etc ) I expect the speed and manoeuvrability of these older fighters to allow a significant number of them to get through and attack enemy shipping. In reality when the Japanese committed good, fast planes they got much higher hit rates than when they committed slower, older types. I expect this to be mirrored in-game. #1: + 29.9

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/20/2011 9:40:14 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 17, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 5,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-548 MTB G-555 MTB G-841 MTB G-848 MTB G-451, Shell hits 2, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Boise CL Honolulu CL Amsterdam DD Marshall DD McCord DD McDermut DD McGowan DD McKee DD McNair -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 4,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-889 MTB G-1006 MTB G-1007, Shell hits 1, and is sunk MTB G-352 MTB G-353 MTB G-452, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Boise CL Honolulu CL Amsterdam DD Marshall DD McCord DD McDermut DD McGowan DD McKee DD McNair It looks like the transports have pulled out and the unit count fell from 41 to 37. Interesting, he's probably pulling out non-combatant units. The fewer mouths he has to feed the better. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub vs Sub: SS Guavina attacking SS Ha-D-142 at 93,67 - near Naha Japanese Ships SS Ha-D-142 Allied Ships SS Guavina -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Saipan , at 108,93 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 32 Allied aircraft Corsair IV x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 F6F-3N Hellcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses Corsair IV: 1 destroyed on ground F4U-1A Corsair: 10 damaged F6F-3N Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged B-29-25 Superfort: 26 destroyed on ground F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed on ground F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground F-5E Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: 16 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Airbase hits 42 Airbase supply hits 7 Runway hits 226 This was a weirdly effective night raid. Instead of 132 bombers only 32 flew but they scored a huge number of hits. I can only put it down to the sky-high DL and the overstacking on the ground. Over 50 B-29s and about 20 other planes were destroyed on the ground. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M3 Nell x 6 G4M2a Betty x 18 G4M3a Betty x 26 P1Y2 Frances x 15 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 31 P-61C Black Widow x 17 F4U-1A Corsair x 11 F6F-3N Hellcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged G4M2a Betty: 3 damaged G4M3a Betty: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 My nightly attacks on Naha.... I think the storms significantly impacted these raids. Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 20 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 22 P-61C Black Widow x 13 F4U-1A Corsair x 8 F6F-3N Hellcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 1 destroyed P1Y2 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 15 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 18 P-61C Black Widow x 13 F4U-1A Corsair x 7 F6F-3N Hellcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 20 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 16 P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 F6F-3N Hellcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed on ground Runway hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 19 Ki-48-Ib Lily x 19 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 8 Ki-49-IIa Helen x 3 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 20 Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 6 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 15 P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 F6F-3N Hellcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 damaged P-51H Mustang: 1 destroyed on ground P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 9 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 13 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 13 P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 F6F-3N Hellcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 15 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 12 P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 F6F-3N Hellcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 damaged Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed by flak No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 21 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 6 Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 10 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 12 P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 F6F-3N Hellcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Manila , at 79,77 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 56 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 4 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 14 F6F-3N Hellcat x 8 F6F-5N Hellcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-61C Black Widow: 1 destroyed F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed I'm concerned bomber defensive fire accuracy is still too high. I have multiple Ki-264 pilots with multiple kills and I'm sure my opponent has multiple B-29 pilots with multiple kills as well. After tonight's raid my opponent asked for new rules on night-bombing. I'm quite happy with this since: a) I was able to accept the night bombing losses I was taking. That he finds the effectiveness of my 130 bombers such that he wants a change in HRs which will also effect his 1000+ four-engined bombers is a good sign for me IMO. b) I made a counter-proposal that if we were increasing night-bomber ceilings ( to diminish number of bomb hits ) then we should increase day bomber ceilings also since I had so few Ki-264s that I was mostly limited to night bombing and if we diminished that while not diminishing the effectiveness of day bombing in a similar fashion we'd just end up penalising the Japanese while leaving the Americans bomber fleets untouched in terms of effectiveness. My rule for HRs is that they shouldn't be a means for players to gain advantage - although sometimes if the code is borked then HRing for that code breach gives someone advantage. So there's always a balance to be struck. Anyways, four-engined bombers now have minimum altitudes of 15,000 feet at night and 25,000 feet during the daytime. In addition I'm going to look into creating a new device for four-engined bombers which will model a "stick" of 4 bombs. In-game 4-engined bombers are so effective because each bomb dropped rolls to hit. With 20 or even 32 bombs per plane those rolls to hit eventually reach such numbers that you get huge numbers of hits ( as we saw at Guam and as we see regularly when the B-29s attack HI and 50 B-29s might get 100 HI hits... In 3 days of attacks I lost 1/4 of the entire Japanese HI... which is not something supported by the historical records. Anyways, by creating this new device we should reduce the numbers of "check if bomb hits" rolls by 75% and lessen their over-effectiveness vs HI while still keeping their effectiveness vs airfields and troops ( since this devide will have four times the explosive power but unchanged penetration... So it'll basically say that each hit from this device is the same as being hit by 4 x 500lb bombs. It'll probably need a bit more tweaking but that's the basic idea. It should make my Ki-264s and his B-29s less over-effective vs resources, HI etc whilst mostly preserving their effectiveness vs airfield runways and services --- but, crucially, making them less likely to destroy planes as this appears to be a function of number of hits and not the damage potential of those hits. I think we both realise that a game dominated by 4-engined strikes closing airfields left, right and centre isn't realistic. Causing attritional losses? Sure but not closing them completely. In the long-run abandoning this ability will hurt Japan more than America since this is pretty much my only chance to destroy hundreds of B-29s over a short period of time but it has to be changed since it is leading to ahistorical results and play. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Daito Shoto , at 98,69 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft PB4Y-2 Privateer x 10 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 5 I'm trying to draw some raids off by placing seaplanes at various bases to draw air attacks from which they are, largely, immune. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 128 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y2-S Judy x 3 Allied aircraft B-32 Dominator x 35 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y2-S Judy: 2 damaged D4Y2-S Judy: 1 destroyed on ground A6M2-K Zero: 1 destroyed on ground A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-94-II: 2 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 34 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 14 Airbase supply hits 11 Runway hits 73 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 127 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 39 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y2-S Judy x 3 Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 27 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 13 destroyed on ground N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed on ground A6M2-K Zero: 4 destroyed on ground Ki-94-II: 4 destroyed on ground Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed on ground A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 107 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Airbase hits 20 Airbase supply hits 15 Runway hits 222 Pretty much a mirror of the result I got at Guam... except that I don't mind losing these older fighters. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Amami Oshima , at 98,64 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 37 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 25 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed on ground Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 64 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 125 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 42 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y2-S Judy x 3 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 103 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground A6M2-K Zero: 1 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 84 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 87 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y2-S Judy x 3 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 62 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Amami Oshima , at 98,64 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 33 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 22 Japanese aircraft losses N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed on ground D4Y2-S Judy: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed on ground N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged Airbase hits 4 Runway hits 97 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near San Fernando at 79,73 Japanese Ships SS I-53, hits 7 Allied Ships DD Murray DD Melvin DD Metcalfe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Nago at 96,63 Japanese Ships MTB G-848 MTB G-841 MTB G-548 Allied Ships SS Angler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Nago at 96,63 Japanese Ships MTB G-353 MTB G-1006 MTB G-889 Allied Ships SS Angler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Amami Oshima at 97,63 Japanese Ships MTB G-352 MTB G-353 MTB G-1006 Allied Ships SS Spot -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Amami Oshima at 98,62 Japanese Ships MTB G-353 MTB G-352 MTB G-1006 Allied Ships SS Cabezon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 41,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-94-II x 24 Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 50 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-94-II: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-51H Mustang: 2 destroyed Hmm, even the Ki-94 II can't dominate the P-51H at close range. I'll be glad when he has to fly a dozen hexes to reach Okinawa. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 44,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 50 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 45,900 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 10 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 43,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 16 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft PB4Y-2 Privateer x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 36 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Takachiko Det. , at 81,73 , near Aparri Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft Beaufighter 21 x 48 Mosquito FB.40 x 22 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 120 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Also attacking Shobu Group Army ... Also attacking Hayashi Detachment ... Also attacking 23rd Div Remnants ... Also attacking Takachiko Det. ... Also attacking Shobu Group Army ... Also attacking Hayashi Detachment ... I've already pulled about 400 AV of the 900 AV which began the war trapped in the northern Phillipines out by seaplane. I'm working hard at flying the remaining 500 AV out and expect to have that done by the end of the week. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 241 NM, estimated altitude 44,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 69 minutes Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 25 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,66 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 5,100 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes These guys went in at 100 feet. With a time to target of three minutes there wasn't any opportunity for an interception to occur and all 23 Ohkas made it to the ships, that ASW TF I have grown to hate so much [8D] Japanese aircraft Ohka Model 11 x 23 Allied aircraft P-47N Thunderbolt x 22 F4U-1D Corsair x 14 F4U-4 Corsair x 14 F6F-5 Hellcat x 11 Japanese aircraft losses Ohka Model 11: 7 destroyed No Allied losses Allied Ships DE Snyder, Kamikaze hits 1, and is sunk DE Stern, Kamikaze hits 3, and is sunk SC-643, Kamikaze hits 1, and is sunk SC-641, Kamikaze hits 1, and is sunk A 25% hit rate. Excellent. I've noticed that when not disrupted by interception kamikaze hit rates are much, much higher than when they've taken losses on the flight in. CAP engaged: VBF-7 with F4U-1D Corsair (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 39300 Raid is overhead VBF-9 with F4U-1D Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 39300 Raid is overhead VBF-10 with F4U-1D Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 39300 Raid is overhead VBF-11 with F4U-1D Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 39300 Raid is overhead VBF-12 with F4U-1D Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 39300 Raid is overhead VF-14 with F6F-5 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 37300 Raid is overhead VBF-17 with F4U-1D Corsair (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 39300 Raid is overhead VF-81 with F6F-5 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 37300 Raid is overhead VBF-81 with F4U-1D Corsair (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 39300 Raid is overhead VBF-82 with F4U-1D Corsair (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 39300 Raid is overhead VF-84 with F6F-5 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 37300 Raid is overhead VBF-84 with F4U-1D Corsair (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 39300 Raid is overhead VF-85 with F6F-5 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 37300 Raid is overhead VMF-211 with F4U-4 Corsair (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 41600 , scrambling fighters between 41000 and 41600. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes VMF-225 with F4U-4 Corsair (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 41600 , scrambling fighters to 41000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 413th Fighter Group with P-47N Thunderbolt (7 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 42000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes I highlighted a couple of airgroups to show their altitude was far too high. 42,000 feet vs attackers at 100 feet. There was no way they were ever going to intercept. And with only 3 minutes to the target there was no way the fighters they were scrambling would reach either. He is going to have to begin properly splitting the CAP into high, medium and low level now. My opponent wasn't used to facing low-level kamis so asked me my advice about how to deal with them. I advised him to stagger them at 1,000 feet, 15,000 feet or so and 30,000 feet or so so as to have enough planes at every altitude to guarantee at least a few firing passes. Even if he didn't shoot anything down he'd cut losses by 50% just by disrupting my attack profiles. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 82,73 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 101 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 33 minutes Japanese aircraft B6N2a Jill x 9 Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 7 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Allied Ships CA Shropshire Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B6N2a Jill bombing from 12000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb That's quite an audacious raid. I'd meant to set them to night attack only. Oops! I got away with it though. The lack of CAP around the northern Phillipines is interesting though. I'll have to bring more planes in to take advantage of that and force him to spread his fighters more thinly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 82,73 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 3,100 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 8 Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 12 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed No Allied losses Allied Ships DD Fanning DD Rooks CA Shropshire, Kamikaze hits 1 The kamis came in at 100 feet again and the CAP was, again, too high. I got one solid, penetrating hit on the CA Shropshire. Tomorrow there will be far more CAP here but that serves my purposes, spreading his fighters out. Aircraft Attacking: 8 x B5N2 Kate flying as kamikaze Kamikaze: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: No.78 Sqn RAAF with P-51D Mustang (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 12 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 41900 Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 151 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 70 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-94-II x 8 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 113 F6F-5 Hellcat x 154 SB2C-5 Helldiver x 93 TBM-3 Avenger x 258 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-94-II: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-94-II: 1 destroyed on ground A6M2-K Zero: 1 destroyed on ground D4Y2-S Judy: 1 destroyed on ground N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed on ground A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses SB2C-5 Helldiver: 2 damaged TBM-3 Avenger: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 15 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 161 These Ki-94s leaked from the adjacent base and got slaughtered. sigh Time to pull them back. #1: + 41 [image]local://upfiles/10809/E0E603B8A19F4DCD9965E765B36639EE.jpg[/image]

jeffk3510 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/20/2011 2:39:03 PM)
You are destroying B-29s at an alarming rate. I would be so pissed at myself to let my opponent destroy so many, let alone on the ground...[:-] Keep up the good work, this is such an interesting scenario... I just started a new GC game last night against the AI, I know it will take a while, but my final goal is to invade the Home Islands if I can stick with the game that long...

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/20/2011 2:46:12 PM)
Yeah, by today's date in the game 17th September I had destroyed 240 B-29s. Since we'd only started actually fighting on the 8th September that's 24 B-29s per day, almost triple what I need. My hope was that this rate would force an operational pause on the B-29s and not just lessen the ferocity of their attacks. We'll see...

jeffk3510 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/20/2011 3:45:12 PM)
How many B-29s did the US lose historically during the war? You just seem to be destroying them left and right, and in this case below you [:D] Maybe you're just that good.

Cribtop -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/20/2011 6:40:55 PM)
Do these kami raids mean the bug is fixed or is sending them in at 100 feet a way to work around the bug?

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/20/2011 7:33:13 PM)
No, this was under 1108m2/3 in which the bug still existed. What this merely shows is that the fewer the number of groups on CAP the more likely the Japanese will be randomised to low altitude while the US are randomised to high altitude ( a 1 in 9 chance if you accept a trinary of hi, medium and low altitudes. 1/3rd of the time they will be randomised to the same altitude, 4/9ths they'll be randomised to within 1 altitude band and 2/9th of the time they'll be randomised to either hi vs low or low vs hi and get through easily ). I simply decided that a 22% chance of getting through scott free was worth it with Ohkas. Over the next week or so sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't - when the randomisation bug worked against me. Under 1108m4 the bug is fixed as michaelm found the comparators which were being evaluated in the wrong order and fixed them. Of course opinions differ on this and JWE would tell you you're a lying, unwashed weasel with no brain who has never been laid for thinking this might be a bug [:D]. My personal advice is to upgrade to 1108m4 if you are trying to split CAP over TFs. The problem with CAP altitude being randomised has been confirmed by michaelm and when he said it was fixed kamis ( and other strikes ) suddenly began behaving a lot more historically. THis is very important since the difference in distance at which the raid is spotted when coming in at 100 feet and 6,000 feet is huge and without radar the USN is a lot more vulnerable to Japanese attacks. At this stage of the game ( under 1108m4 ) it is my absolute SOP to send everything except my specialised high-altitude kami attacks in at 100 feet - that includes Ohkas, kamikazes and torpedo bombers. Dive-bombers have to go in at their normal altitude unfortunately... although I'm thinking of simply training them in LOW NAVAL so they skip bomb. That ought to be effective. 1108m4 is stable and without it you might as well not bother specifying an altitude for your CAP/strikesas it is randomised.

inqistor -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/21/2011 9:14:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nemo121 In addition I'm going to look into creating a new device for four-engined bombers which will model a "stick" of 4 bombs. In-game 4-engined bombers are so effective because each bomb dropped rolls to hit. With 20 or even 32 bombs per plane those rolls to hit eventually reach such numbers that you get huge numbers of hits ( as we saw at Guam and as we see regularly when the B-29s attack HI and 50 B-29s might get 100 HI hits... In 3 days of attacks I lost 1/4 of the entire Japanese HI... which is not something supported by the historical records. Anyways, by creating this new device we should reduce the numbers of "check if bomb hits" rolls by 75% and lessen their over-effectiveness vs HI while still keeping their effectiveness vs airfields and troops ( since this devide will have four times the explosive power but unchanged penetration... So it'll basically say that each hit from this device is the same as being hit by 4 x 500lb bombs. It'll probably need a bit more tweaking but that's the basic idea. It should make my Ki-264s and his B-29s less over-effective vs resources, HI etc whilst mostly preserving their effectiveness vs airfield runways and services --- but, crucially, making them less likely to destroy planes as this appears to be a function of number of hits and not the damage potential of those hits. Uuuu, lets see how it woks out. If good, DC number is next in queue :D I think, that ultimately, number of "bomb" Devices on 4Es should be less, that this number on 2Es. That way it will be clear, what type of bomber use for tactical support, as they simply will have more attack rolls, and inflict this way more damage. I wonder, if this will be possible under this model... Anyway, as you strongly modified Downfall: What are the initial pilot pools, experience, and "training/production" rate? Have you utilised all those Type 100/44 SMGs, and Type 4 70mm AT Rocket Launchers stored in-case of mainland invasion? What is the initial Armament/Vehicles pool?

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/21/2011 12:22:03 PM)
Inqistor, Well, we've recently made a change to heavy bomber bombloads along the lines you suggested. Instead of the heavy bombers having 20 to 32 bombs they now have "sticks" of 4 bombs so the B-29-25 doesn't have 20 x 500lbers anymore. It has 5 x 500lb sticks ( each stick comprising 4 bombs and having the same penetrating power but fout times the explosive power of a single 500lber ). Same thing for the 250 Kg bombs in the Ki-264. This keeps the effectiveness of the heavy bombers vs planes on the airfield ( since each hit has a high chance of damaging or destroying multiple planes ) whilst reducing the effectiveness in terms of total closure of the airfield a little. The big impact will be in terms of a reduction in effectiveness of port attacks and HI/ factory bombing. Currently vs HI with each bomb having a separate "to hit" roll there is just far too much chance for each bomber getting multiple HI hits. Before I made the changes we had a situation where 100 Allied bombers dropped 600 bombs and managed to get 480 hits on an airfield. Needless to say that airfield was closed entirely. 2. Initial pilot pools... Graduating pilot experience was boosted for all sides but the differential in pilot production maintained with the Allies producing 3 times the pilots. In addition Allied graduating pilot experience was upgraded to 80 while Japanese pilot experience was capped at 70. 3. I haven't upgraded to the type 100/44 SMGs but I have included the Type 4 AT rocket launched in IJA 1945 Pattern infantry squads and engineer squads. This gives Japanese infantry a much better chance to survive vs tanks. Very few units begin with Pattern 45 infantry squads. Japan has to take the time and effort to upgrade its infantry units. 4. AAA changes: The 12cm AAA gun becomes standard as does an upgrade from 20mm to 40mm AAA within AAA units. AT guns upgrade from 37mm to 47mm. Tanks remain relatively unchanged. 5. Armament and vehicle pools are untouched.

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/21/2011 7:32:45 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 18, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M3 Nell x 26 G4M2 Betty x 27 G4M2a Betty x 13 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 18 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 Japanese aircraft losses G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged G4M2a Betty: 2 damaged No Allied losses Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 20 P1Y2 Frances x 73 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 13 F4U-1A Corsair x 7 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged P1Y2 Frances: 3 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 15 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 13 F4U-1A Corsair x 7 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Calayan at 83,70 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 121 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 33 minutes Japanese aircraft B7A2 Grace x 20 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AM Kingfisher LST-915 LST-914, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LST-919 PF Long Beach SC-645 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-48-Ib Lily x 8 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 4 Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 9 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-61C Black Widow: 3 damaged P-61C Black Widow: 1 destroyed on ground P-51H Mustang: 1 destroyed on ground P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 34 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 3 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 No Japanese losses No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-Ia Helen x 11 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 9 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Daito Shoto , at 98,69 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y2-S Judy x 3 Allied aircraft PB4Y-2 Privateer x 16 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 151 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 46 minutes Japanese aircraft C6N1-S Myrt x 19 J1N1-S Irving x 4 S1A1 Denko x 41 Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 104 B-29B Superfort x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged Heavy Industry hits 2 Manpower hits 6 Fires 2900 Very few of my night fighters intercepted. I have over 100 at Tokyo. Ah well, I suppose I'll have to wait for the Ki-102c with its functional radar to really begin hurting these night-time raids. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 144 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 34 minutes Allied aircraft B-32 Dominator x 34 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 165 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 51 minutes Japanese aircraft C6N1-S Myrt x 12 J1N1-S Irving x 3 S1A1 Denko x 27 Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 89 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed on ground L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged Heavy Industry hits 1 Fires 2825 Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 133 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 45 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 148 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 133 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 45 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 111 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-K Zero: 1 destroyed on ground A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Runway hits 9 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Calayan at 83,70 Japanese Ships SS RO-68, hits 28, heavy damage Allied Ships SC PC-807 LST-918 PF Long Beach PF Grand Forks SC PC-808 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Kuroshima at 98,61 Japanese Ships E No.52 E No.40 E No.150 E No.132 E No.76 Allied Ships SS Sargo, hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 26 encounters mine field at Naha (95,66) Japanese Ships SSX Ha-42, Mine hits 1, heavy damage My own mines... Worth it though to keep the pressure on. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 239th USN Base Force, at 80,74 (San Fernando) Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 175 NM, estimated altitude 40,370 feet. Estimated time to target is 48 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-74-I Patsy x 7 Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 3 F4U-4 Corsair x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-74-I Patsy: 3 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 82,73 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 2,100 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Sen Baku x 16 Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 10 F4U-4 Corsair x 20 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Sen Baku: 9 destroyed Cap randomised unfortunately for me. Ah well, maybe next time. No Allied losses #1: + 70.1 - 18/7 #2: + 41.7 - 3/7 [image]local://upfiles/10809/93F5BF8994FA4149A6CF6072548BB884.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/24/2011 8:19:59 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 19, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub vs Sub: SS Thornback attacking SS Ha-207 at 95,67 - near Naha Japanese Ships SS Ha-207 Allied Ships SS Thornback -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M3 Nell x 27 G4M2a Betty x 20 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 14 F4U-1A Corsair x 11 F6F-5N Hellcat x 11 Japanese aircraft losses G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged G4M2a Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged G4M2a Betty: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses P-61C Black Widow: 1 damaged P-61C Black Widow: 1 destroyed on ground F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 damaged F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground Runway hits 6 In a few days I'm going to stop these raids by IJNAF bombers... they are costing more than they achieve and restrict them to my newly upgraded IJAAF Ki-67b units. Basically the Ki-67 carries twice the bombload and with experienced crews ( which are beginning to come online following my training regime ) they should be able to actually achieve something. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 23 Ki-21-IIb Sally x 4 Ki-48-Ib Lily x 16 Ki-49-IIa Helen x 4 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 3 Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 4 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 8 F4U-1A Corsair x 7 F6F-5N Hellcat x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-Ic Sally: 4 damaged No Allied losses Runway hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 20 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 15 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 11 Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 12 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 8 F4U-1A Corsair x 7 F6F-5N Hellcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-Ic Sally: 4 damaged Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 2 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-Ia Helen x 15 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 15 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 8 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 F6F-5N Hellcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 34 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 3 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 8 F4U-1A Corsair x 5 F6F-5N Hellcat x 6 No Japanese losses No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Manila , at 79,77 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 23 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 3 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 12 F6F-3N Hellcat x 7 F6F-5N Hellcat x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 2 damaged No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Ki-264 Angel bombing from 9900 feet Port Attack: 20 x 250 kg GP Bomb This group bears some talking about. I've given 12 x Ki-264s the mission to harrass Manilla, get my opponent used to this harrassment and then, every so often, I'll hit him with a 100+ plane raid --- basically whenever I think his CVEs have docked. In the course of these night-time raids these 12 Ki-264s have accounted for over 20 Allied night-fighters and one of the Ki-264 pilots is an ace. By the end of next week I expect this Ki-264 group to have multiple aces. The bomber defensive fire model is still not working properly... It appears to still be significantly over-powered during night-time. I'm not quite sure why that would be but, definitely, my Ki-264s are killing a lot more intercepting fighters at night than during the daytime. Right now my opponent's night-fighter force is gettin butchered by Ki-264s when they attack. The bomber sweep is back. I'm going to suggest a further decrease in bomber defensive fire accuracy. The problem is we'd have to downgrade and upgrade our squadrons for that to take effect in-game. This would mean a week or so free of four-engined bombers.... or we could just stand down half of them for 1 week and then the other half the next week. I'll talk about it with my opponent and if he is agreeable I'll make that change. The performance of this Ki-264 group is just so out of kilter that it shows something needs to be done. I shudder to think how much worse it would have been if I hadn't reduced the accuracy already. In the stock game this would be much worse. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Daito Shoto , at 98,69 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Allied aircraft PB4Y-2 Privateer x 14 Allied aircraft losses PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 66 encounters mine field at Naha (95,66) Japanese Ships SSX Ha-50, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Hengchun , at 84,67 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 122 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 36 minutes Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 10 A-26C Invader x 60 B-25J11 Mitchell x 60 P-51H Mustang x 14 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 31 Airbase supply hits 14 Runway hits 442 Closed! Of course I don't actually have fighters there, just floatplanes flitting around my bases in order to draw such strikes... Every bomber hitting an empty base like this is one less bomber hitting something crucial to my defence. At this stage the majority of enemy sweeps and bomber sorties are unchallenged strikes against decoy targets. The maskirovka is going well. I've also established safe naval and aerial bases beyond range of the Allies ( now that they are being pushed out of Okinawa ) and am refitting and upgrading and training my forces at those bases. In addition the fight around Okinawa is allowing me to move fuel, oil, supplies and resources into Japan from China. So far I haven't lost a single ship from these convoys and have moved well over 1,000,000 tons of fuel and supplies over the past fortnight. Another month of this and the Japanese merchant fleet will have brought all the supplies, fuel, oil and resources available in China etc home and it'll be time to redeploy it for its next offensive mission --- another invasion of American-held territory. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Okinoerabushima , at 96,65 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 41,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 25 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 25 x P-51H Mustang sweeping at 41600 feet There's no point fighting these ueber-fighters at such short distances from their bases. Let fatigue do its work and then my fighters will do theirs. This is one of the things I am gaining from the Okinawan adventure. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Batan Island at 85,70 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 9 Allied aircraft Spitfire F.XIV x 20 P-51D Mustang x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 4 F4U-4 Corsair x 10 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed No Allied losses Well, it would appear that despite my flight coming in at 100 feet the Americans were randomised to 100 feet also. All 9 kamikazes were shot down. I have a 22% chance of getting a strike in unopposed though and that's enough for me to continue throwing away old airframes. In other kamikaze-related news: 1. If the enemy tries to run ships into Okinawa again he will find himself opposed by roughly 360 Ohka kamikazes with high aggression leaders. Even with only 22% of them getting through CAP and a 25% hit rate once through CAP that'll get me about 20+ hits... and each hit should sink a USN ship. 2. My kamikaze corps of Ki-43s is also ready and comprises 350 Oscar IIIs. I will commit them en masse with a sacrificial escort cadre of 100 Ki-44s and some A6M2/5s 3. More and more Shinyos are rolling off the production lines and they and their MTB cousins are taking up position in southern Japan ready to island-hop via Amami Oshima to Okinawa. Again, they'll go in once a resupply/reinforcement force is spotted. 4. Midget submarines. I have created about 40 midgets at Okinawa and will send them in, along with approximately 20 conventional submarines, once the Americans show up. In the meantime my initial wave of forces ( infantry ) is almost ready to attack the Americans. They'll fail and then I'll "have" to bring in tanks to pry the Americans out. I'll also have to feed a few ships on the way to Okinawa to the American submarines to help bolster the maskirovka of further reinforcements flowing into Okinawa as I am facing more resistance than I had planned for. In reality most of my forces will either: a) fly in using my transports and Ki-264s for the heavy equipment ( I can fly in roughly 150 AV per day and have had an additional 5,000 AV budgeted for Okinawa and moving to the appropriate airbases for air transport into the airfield ) b) be transported to Amami Oshima from Kagoshima - I have created a cleared "lane" through the submarines by the expedient of placing 600 mines on each of the three coastal bases along the 6 hex route to Amami Oshima and aggressively patrolling the rest with my ASW TFs - which are sinking 2 to 3 USN submarines per day in this region. - From Amami Oshima they will board some of the 80 barges I've created there for the short trip to Okinawa proper. c) my fast transports can bring in a Brigade in a single trip. Obviously that means another 160 AV every two days and means that I can bring more reinforcements to bear than my opponent. As ever logistics will determine who will win this fight. It really comes down to a question of whether or not I can use my shorter SLOCs to bring troops in or whether the Americans can use their greater sealift to bring more troops in while using their naval airpower and seapower ( SC TFs etc ) to raid into my SLOCs and prevent my movement of troops... That's one reason why I always planned to bring in most of my troops and equipment by air and front-loaded the invasion TF wtih the heaviest units ( tank units ). Why am I willing to commit up to 10,000 AV to Okinawa? 1. That's what it will take. 2. It may foster the belief that I'm focussing on Okinawa to the exclusion of all else. I'm not. I have already reconned invasion targets in the enemy's strategic depth and have allocated forces and gotten them into position, upgraded and accepting replacements. In addition I am also actively sending forces into my own defensive regions ( China/ Korea/Kuriles etc ). Still, 10,000 AV looks like a huge over-focus and I won't attempt to dissuade my opponent of that. 3. Training. The more troops I commit there the more troops will gain experience which will stand to them when Okinawa finally does fall and they are shipped out to other islands to form the core of the defenders in those islands. I'm also, in the meantime, trying to upgrade and repair a few units which I'm trying to form into an ersatz Airlanding Corps configured for rapid air transport to invaded islands. I have high hopes that once the Allies have created a cordon sanitaire around an island they intend to invade I'll still be able to fly large numbers of combat troops in IF I take care to maximise the combat AV per plane load among the units chosen for the mission... hence my creation of the Airlanding Corps and its dispersion into ready-reaction sites with a division located in a major airbase along each of the main axes of projected American advance. My short-range transports will move the closest division while my longer-ranged transports will fly the next division and my Ki-264Ts etc will fly the most distant division in. With a little luck the Airlanding Corps could allow me to move in up to 1,000 AV in situations where, otherwise, Japan would have no ability whatsoever to reinforce. That could be enough to turn an easy win into a slogging match --- which is all Japan can hope for in this game. In the meantime though I have to take heavy losses in order to keep a believable narrative going around Okinawa which will support the maskirovka operations which have been ongoing there and elsewhere. On the plus side Allied aerial losses still remain higher than mine with pretty equal levels of A2A losses - not bad when one considers that many of my A2A kills comprise about B-29s which were mobbed with all the grace of a barfight. #1: + 90.1 - 19/7 #2: + 58.3 - 4/7 incomplete

Cribtop -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/24/2011 8:36:55 PM)
Well done so far. This is a great read. Very bloody, but such is 1945.

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/24/2011 10:14:18 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 20, 45 A very quiet day. My Ki-264s ar doing maintenance mostly and prepping for a couple of days raids into Manilla later in the week while his B-29s seem to be re-organising a bit following my raids. Once I've hit Manilla and completed a maintenance cycle out of range of his bombing I'll re-engage the Marianas. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub vs Sub: SS I-53 attacking SS Hoe at 87,68 - near Orchid Island Japanese Ships SS I-53 Allied Ships SS Hoe, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Glug! Glug! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 80 encounters mine field at Naha (95,66) Japanese Ships SSX Ha-34, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage My own mines again. I've dumped about 500 mines into Naha and every day they either hit my own MTBs and SSX or I hear a couple of USN ships/subs hit them. In another couple of days I'm going to dump another 120 mines there using the I-120 class boats. I LOVE those things. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Okinoerabushima at 97,66 Japanese Ships MTB G-872 MTB G-1003 Allied Ships SS Parche -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Okinoerabushima at 97,66 Japanese Ships MTB G-207 MTB G-161 Allied Ships SS Spadefish -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Naha at 96,66 Japanese Ships MTB G-405 MTB G-487 MTB G-158 Allied Ships SS Besugo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Kobe at 107,61 Japanese Ships DD Yadake DD Wakazakura Allied Ships SS Rasher, hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-151 MTB G-158 MTB G-161 MTB G-207 MTB G-302, Shell hits 1, on fire MTB G-405 MTB G-487 MTB G-621 MTB G-623 MTB G-632 Allied Ships PT-61 PT-112 PT-114 PT-115, Shell hits 1 PT-116 PT-120, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage I'm clearing the waters around Naha because tomorrow or the next day ( depending on progress ) I'm going to be sending the IJN into Naha to bombard the airfield. I'm even bringing my single BB and the single functional CA along. They might as well die gloriously if they're going to die. In order to conserve fuel in the Home Islands I am running the remnants of the Combined Fleet out of Formosa and China so they are drawing fuel stocks from those areas instead of the Home Islands. It is a passive means of reducing consumption but every bit helps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 97 encounters mine field at Naha (95,66) Japanese Ships MTB G-404, Mine hits 1, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-880 MTB G-883 MTB G-886 MTB G-1001 MTB G-1004 MTB G-1005 MTB G-1013 MTB G-1016 MTB G-1022 MTB G-1023 MTB G-1031 MTB G-154 MTB G-164 MTB G-303 MTB G-408 MTB G-624 Allied Ships PT-122 PT-124 PT-125 PT-126, Shell hits 1 PT-127 PT-128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Naha at 95,66 Japanese Ships MTB G-404, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Caiman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Aparri , at 82,73 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 158 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 81 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed on ground B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed on ground F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 4 Runway hits 20 In order to avoid the game becoming "low-level night-bombing in the Pacific" we've agreed to limit night-time four-engined attacks to 15,000 feet and daytime four-engined attacks to 20,000 feet. Sheer weight of numbers still allows the Americans to crush airfields but that's ok, my defensive plan doesn't significantly depend on my airfields being available outside of the Home Islands. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 11 Ki-21-IIb Sally x 3 Ki-48-Ib Lily x 19 Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 14 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 F6F-5N Hellcat x 25 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged No Allied losses Runway hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 21 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 8 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 13 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 F6F-5N Hellcat x 23 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 5 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 12 F4U-1A Corsair x 9 F6F-5N Hellcat x 21 No Japanese losses No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 15 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 8 F6F-5N Hellcat x 19 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 159 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 37 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-32 Dominator x 39 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-K Zero: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-32 Dominator: 1 damaged Runway hits 6 A fair waste of B-32s IMO. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 146 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 50 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 105 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Runway hits 9 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 121 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 81 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground D4Y2-S Judy: 1 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 6 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 47 That's over 200 four-engined bombers hitting something I don't even need to keep open, except to facilitate air transport and, to be fair, I can just land troops using floatplanes and land the ones flying in using non-floatplane transports at the island next door and barge them in. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Amami Oshima at 97,64 Japanese Ships MTB G-158 MTB G-632 MTB G-623 MTB G-621 MTB G-487 MTB G-405 MTB G-302 MTB G-207 MTB G-161 Allied Ships SS Springer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Matsue at 106,55 Japanese Ships E No.77, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage LST T-159 LST T-154 LST T-145 LST T-140 E No.83 Allied Ships SS Muskallunge, hits 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Calayan at 82,71 Japanese Ships SS RO-50, hits 4 Allied Ships APD Raymond W. Herndon APD Weber APD Kinzer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Amami Oshima , at 98,64 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 45,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 22 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 24th Infantry Division, at 81,81 (Naga) Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 237 NM, estimated altitude 43,370 feet. Estimated time to target is 65 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-74-I Patsy x 4 No Japanese losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Hengchun , at 84,67 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 138 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 8 A-26C Invader x 63 B-25J11 Mitchell x 60 P-51H Mustang x 14 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Airbase hits 22 Airbase supply hits 10 Runway hits 328 My floatplanes survive quite nicely again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Amami Oshima , at 98,64 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 262 NM, estimated altitude 41,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 75 minutes Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 3 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Takao , at 84,65 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Allied aircraft P-38L Lightning x 25 No Allied losses Below you can see the forces which will attack Naha tomorrow. They won't be nearly enough to take it but when the next attack comes in with tanks I will play the narrative of reinforcing... and then future attacks will see additional forces piecemealing into the action as they air-transport in which will support that narrative and help both mislead the Allies to the true focus of Japanese efforts and invite them to counter-concentrate their forces into the depth of the trap I am crafting... not a decisive trap but an attritional one. I have 1500 Ki-43s in the pool and have every single one dedicated to kamikaze missions. At 350 Oscars per strike and allowing one week for the squadrons to replace and repair their planes that will give me a five week expenditure of 1750 Oscars in the kamikaze role around Okinawa. Over the next month I should produce enough planes/free up a few Tonys for kamikaze duty to be able to have the 1750 necessary airframes. Even with a 10% hit rate that's 175 hits which I expect to be directed mostly at USN SC and CV TFs. The Ohkas and Shinyos will be expended in the Naha hex against transports and close escorts. In other news the USN CV Boxer continues to show up in the sunk ships list. I hit it and I think it went into Naha and may have hit a mine but I have difficulty believing it sank. It'd be a pleasant surprise though to add to the USS Iowa which I am confirmed to have sunk with Shinyos. [image]local://upfiles/10809/A11B52CE643C44488B5A8DE5DF0C143A.jpg[/image]

jeffk3510 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/29/2011 6:25:50 PM)
Nemo- can the US drop the atomic bomb in this scenario? I was thinking about your AAR. WW2 in Color is on the Military Channel today, and I am at the Home Island bombing part...

jeffk3510 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/29/2011 6:26:26 PM)
Anxious to see how Naha goes for you. Good luck.

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/29/2011 7:34:48 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 21, 45 A laggardly update.... The attack went as expected and planned. A bloody nose for Japan which sets up a long-term battle and the growing committment of more and more Japanese forces as Japan struggles to overcome this American outpost. Ideally the Americans will get sucked into this battle also. That's the plan anyways. The number of kamis I have gathered within one hop of Okinawa is continuing to grow. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Nago at 95,64 Japanese Ships MGB G-467 MGB G-462 MGB G-240 MGB G-237 Allied Ships SS Plaice -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Nago at 95,64 Japanese Ships MGB G-467 MGB G-462 MGB G-240 MGB G-237 Allied Ships SS Plaice -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Oki Shoto at 109,54 Japanese Ships LST T-158 LST T-152 LST T-144 LST T-139 E No.83 Allied Ships SS Muskallunge, hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Guam at 106,93 Japanese Ships SS I-400, hits 27, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Young DD Yarnall DD Wadsworth SS I-400 is sighted by escort I-400 diving deep .... DD Young attacking submerged sub .... DD Yarnall attacking submerged sub .... SS I-400 forced to surface! Glug, glug! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 285 encounters mine field at Naha (95,66) Allied Ships PT-116, Mine hits 1, heavy damage The I-120s continue to shuttle more mines into Naha. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub vs Sub: SS Croaker attacking SS Ha-D-138 at 101,63 - near Tanegashima Japanese Ships SS Ha-D-138 Allied Ships SS Croaker -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 1,000 Yards Japanese Ships ML G-211 ML G-319 ML G-320 ML G-428 ML G-429 ML G-438, Shell hits 1 ML G-601 ML G-602 ML G-611 ML G-612 Allied Ships PT-61 PT-82, Shell hits 1 PT-112 PT-114 PT-115 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 3,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo Allied Ships PT-61 PT-82 PT-112, Shell hits 12, and is sunk PT-114 PT-115, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage The reason the Shinyos did so much better is that each Shinyo "DD" actually represents a flotilla of 9 suicide MKBs ( Motor Kamikaze Boats ). So, there were 144 MKBs facing the 5 USN PT boats in this clash. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 1,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo DD Shinyo Allied Ships PT-122, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT-124 PT-125 PT-126 PT-127 PT-128, Shell hits 14, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Nago at 96,63 Japanese Ships DD Take DD Hanekimo DD Tawa DD Hishi DD Kuzu Allied Ships SS Angler, hits 25, heavy damage This portion of the narrative speaks of my desire to close the airbase. Having failed to close it with air raids the IJN is now tasked to run very dangerous and potentially costly missions directly into the maws of the enemy. Of course the real risk being run by these ships is much, much less than the risk that they appear to be running. They are covered by LRCAP and they are running in and out through waters which have been aggressively swept by my only mission-capable ASW squadron and multiple Escort-based ASW TFs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Naha at 95,66 Japanese Ships DD Hanekimo DD Tawa DD Kuzu DD Yaezakura Allied Ships SS Gurnard, hits 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Kuroshima at 99,61 Japanese Ships E No.215 E No.207 E No.205 E No.118 Allied Ships SS Boarfish, hits 13, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Tinian , at 108,94 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 155 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 61 Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 13 F6F-3N Hellcat x 5 F6F-5N Hellcat x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed B-29-25 Superfort: 4 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 13 9 more B-29s went up in flames. This is really beginning to annoy my opponent who is suggesting we go with changes to bomber modelling we've been discussing for some time: 1. We're going to halve gun accuracy on 4-engined bombers again. We're going to leave it the same for twin-engined bombers for now as they seem pretty vulnerable to fighters still. 2. We're replacing the individually-modelled bombs with "sticks" of 4 bombs. So a Ki-264 won't roll 20 times for a hit. Instead it will roll 5 times for hits but each hit will have 4 times the explosive power. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M3 Nell x 28 G4M2 Betty x 14 G4M2a Betty x 3 G4M3a Betty x 27 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 14 F4U-1A Corsair x 11 F6F-5N Hellcat x 25 Japanese aircraft losses G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged G4M2a Betty: 1 destroyed G4M3a Betty: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged No Allied losses Airbase supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 20 G4M2a Betty x 19 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 F6F-5N Hellcat x 21 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged G4M2a Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft P1Y2 Frances x 20 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 F6F-5N Hellcat x 17 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y2 Frances: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged P1Y2 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak Once the navy begins its operations I can begin stepping down these operations at an increasing rate. The narrative will have been satisfied. No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20 Ki-21-IIb Sally x 6 Ki-48-Ib Lily x 6 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 8 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 11 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 F6F-5N Hellcat x 16 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 damaged Ki-21-IIb Sally: 1 damaged Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-61C Black Widow: 7 damaged P-61C Black Widow: 1 destroyed on ground P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 4 IJAAF bombers will continue the attacks once the IJNAF bombers have been withdrawn for training in naval attack. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 106 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 33 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 4 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 6 F6F-5N Hellcat x 14 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 159 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 49 minutes Japanese aircraft J1N1-S Irving x 24 J1N1-Sa Irving x 5 Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 13 Ki-102c Randy x 18 Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 144 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged Manpower hits 11 Fires 10200 Weirdly enough bomber defensive fire seems to be even more effective at night. Neither side's night-fighters can get close to the bombers at night without being damaged or shot down by fire. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 158 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 54 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 125 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Runway hits 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 163 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 56 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 57 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft J1N1-S Irving x 16 J1N1-Sa Irving x 5 Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 13 Ki-102c Randy x 17 Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft J1N1-S Irving x 16 J1N1-Sa Irving x 5 Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 6 Ki-102c Randy x 16 Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Naha at 95,66 Japanese Ships DD Shinyo, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Caiman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 Japanese Ships DD Hanekimo DD Tawa DD Hishi DD Kuzu DD Yaezakura DD Hatsuzakura DD Keyaki DD Kaede DD Take DD Hanekimo firing at Naha DD Tawa firing at Naha DD Hishi firing at 97th Infantry Division DD Kuzu firing at Naha DD Yaezakura firing at Naha DD Hatsuzakura firing at 93rd Infantry Division DD Keyaki firing at Naha DD Kaede firing at Naha DD Take firing at Naha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground Japanese Ships DD Murakaze DD Kiyokaze DD Kawagiri DD Namikaze DD Yukaze DD Yakaze DD Ushio Allied ground losses: 4 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 5 Runway hits 41 DD Murakaze firing at Naha DD Kiyokaze firing at Naha DD Kawagiri firing at Naha DD Namikaze firing at Naha DD Yukaze firing at 93rd Infantry Division DD Yakaze firing at 97th Infantry Division DD Ushio firing at 97th Infantry Division -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 96,66, Range 8,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Take DD Kaede DD Keyaki DD Hatsuzakura DD Yaezakura DD Kuzu DD Hishi DD Tawa DD Hanekimo Allied Ships PT-61 PT-82 PT-114, Shell hits 1 PT-115, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Ineffective missions but tonight the BB joins the show. That should have more impact plus, of course, these missions will continue to be run over time both to degrade the Allies and also to aid the narrative and act as bait for the USN CVs. I want to try to hit a medium-sized USN CV TF with my Oscar Kamikaze Corps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 96,66, Range 3,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Take DD Kaede DD Keyaki DD Hatsuzakura DD Yaezakura DD Kuzu DD Hishi DD Tawa DD Hanekimo Allied Ships PT-124 PT-125, Shell hits 1 PT-126 PT-127, Shell hits 5, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Tokara Retto at 99,62 Japanese Ships E No.45 E No.215 E No.207 E No.205 E No.118 Allied Ships SS Archerfish, hits 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Amami Oshima at 98,65 Japanese Ships DD Hishi DD Hatsuzakura DD Keyaki DD Kaede DD Take DD Hanekimo DD Tawa DD Kuzu DD Yaezakura Allied Ships SS Hammerhead, hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Tokara Retto at 99,62 Japanese Ships E No.207 E No.45 E No.215 E No.205 E No.118, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships SS Archerfish, hits 14, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 46,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 70 Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 50 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 38 destroyed No Allied losses Ouch, I had only trainee A6M5s here with 40 Exp pilots. The P-51Hs ate them alive. Tomorrow I'll bring in 100 or so fighters and see if he sweeps again. The A6M5s will go to Kobe to join the 400+ fighters already there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Takao , at 84,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft P-38L Lightning x 25 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 44,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 1 Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 16 No Japanese losses No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 80,71 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 3,100 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Sen Baku x 2 Small raids sometimes get through no matter what. In this case one got shot down by fighters while the other dived on an AM. It missed but it showed small raids can work. I have multiple 9-plane kamikaze units in the area trying to hit shipping in the northern Phillipines. Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 7 F4U-1D Corsair x 11 F4U-4 Corsair x 13 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Sen Baku: 1 destroyed No Allied losses Allied Ships AM Kingfisher Aircraft Attacking: 1 x A6M2 Sen Baku flying as kamikaze Kamikaze: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Babuyan at 84,71 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 4,100 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Japanese aircraft B4Y1 Jean x 4 Allied aircraft F4U-4 Corsair x 3 Japanese aircraft losses B4Y1 Jean: 3 destroyed This raid was less lucky and the escorts were randomised to its height. From tomorrow in game-time we began using the update which fixed this bug. My kamikazes became significantly more effective immediately. No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Hengchun , at 84,67 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 123 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 36 minutes Allied aircraft A-26C Invader x 60 B-25J11 Mitchell x 60 P-51H Mustang x 14 Allied aircraft losses B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 23 Airbase supply hits 8 Runway hits 290 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Hayashi Detachment , at 82,72 , near Aparri Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft Beaufighter 21 x 48 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 117 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled I'm still flying these guys out. In another fortnight I should have finished pulling them all out. 900 AV evacuated from under the nose of the Allies. Not bad!!! Aircraft Attacking: 24 x Beaufighter 21 bombing from 100 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb 24 x Beaufighter 21 bombing from 100 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking Takachiko Det. ... Also attacking Hayashi Detachment ... Also attacking Takachiko Det. ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Amami Oshima , at 98,64 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 180 NM, estimated altitude 45,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 51 minutes Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 19 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Guam at 106,93 Japanese Ships SS I-402, hits 1 Allied Ships DD Young DD Yarnall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Naha (95,66) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 91592 troops, 861 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 2843 Defending force 83754 troops, 551 guns, 1802 vehicles, Assault Value = 1695 Japanese adjusted assault: 1213 Allied adjusted defense: 4853 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4 (fort level 4) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-) experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 11625 casualties reported Squads: 56 destroyed, 683 disabled Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 266 disabled Engineers: 8 destroyed, 45 disabled Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2358 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 68 disabled Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 316 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 43 disabled Vehicles lost 65 (5 destroyed, 60 disabled) A nice result. I took losses but nothing so bad that I can't attack again whenever I wish. In addition experience levels have grown hugely. Troops which were 30 Exp when they came ashore are now in the high 40s to low 50s. Another 2 or 3 attacks and I'll have 70 Exp troops making attacks... and available for defensive disposition in 2 months when Okinawa finally falls ( that's my timeline ). Assaulting units: 355th Division 109th Ind.Mixed Brigade 2nd Amphibious Brigade 103rd Division 3rd Guards Division 77th Division 66th Ind.Mixed Brigade 21st Ind.Mixed Regiment 102nd Division 303rd Division 17th Ind.Mixed Brigade 126th Ind.Mixed Brigade 107th Division 312th Division 40th Army 16th Area Army 56th Army Defending units: 296th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 97th Infantry Division Tenth Army Combat Engineer Regiment 541st Parachute Regiment 503rd Parachute Regiment 193rd Tank Battalion 28th Airborne Tank Battalion 93rd Infantry Division 148th USA Base Force V US Fighter Cmnd 36th Aviation Base Force 230th USN Base Force Fifth USAAF Eng Engineer Aviation Battalion 212th Coast AA Regiment 6th USMC Air Wing Base Force Southwest Pacific II US Corps 35th USN Naval Construction Regiment 229th USN Base Force 33rd Aviation Base Force 46th Construction Regiment 14th Marine AA Battalion 178th USAAF Base Force 177th USAAF Base Force V US Bomber Cmnd 151st USA Base Force 165th Field Artillery Battalion Tenth US Army 36th USN Naval Construction Regiment 77th Coast AA Regiment 54th TC Wing 232nd USN Base Force 5th USMC Air Wing Base Force Tenth Army Engineer Aviation Battalion 462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion So, all going according to plan so far. Really all I'm doing now is upgrading the IJAAF and IJNAF fighter squadrons, training up the huge numbers of poor pilots I have and waiting for the Allies to return to Okinawa so I can test my kamikazes against them.

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/29/2011 7:37:14 PM)
Yes but they have limited numbers of bombs. That'd be too simple. In return they got an additional 10 or so Essex class CVs, about 5 or 6 more divisions of troops and suchlike. The USN can take a lot more losses in this scenario.

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/29/2011 10:50:34 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 22, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 13 encounters mine field at Naha (95,66) Japanese Ships MGB G-236, Mine hits 1, heavy damage My daily tithe to the minefield gods. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Nago at 95,64 Japanese Ships LB-528 LB-530 LB-529 LB-524 LB-519 PB Chohakusan Maru Allied Ships SS Blueback -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 4,000 Yards Japanese Ships MGB G-224 MGB G-226 MGB G-229 MGB G-234 MGB G-239 MGB G-461 MGB G-468 Allied Ships PT-124 PT-125 PT-126 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 3,000 Yards Japanese Ships MGB G-224 MGB G-226 MGB G-229 MGB G-234 MGB G-239 MGB G-461 MGB G-468 Allied Ships PT-61 PT-82 PT-114 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 100,60 Japanese Ships CM Wakataka, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CM Niizaki CM Itsukushima Allied Ships SS Odax, hits 2 The mining efforts along the Kagoshima to Amami Oshima route are costly in terms of lots minelayers but with 600 mines per base already I've now created a nice barrier Allied submarines can't penetrate along 60% of the route, greatly reducing the risk to my shipping. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Nago at 95,64 Japanese Ships LB-527 LB-530 LB-529 LB-524 LB-519 PB Chohakusan Maru Allied Ships SS Blueback -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Naha at 95,66 Japanese Ships MGB G-466 MGB G-236, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Caiman, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Aparri , at 82,73 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 151 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 31 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 66 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed on ground F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground F6F-5P Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground P-61C Black Widow: 1 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 10 Just flitting around with my Ki-264 targetting. Even if they only ever destroyed 10 planes on the ground per day that's 300 planes per month and helps attrit the Allies. I've only hit airfields for a while though so it is time to begin hitting Manilla seriously. I want to begin taking a toll on the CVEs there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M3 Nell x 28 G4M2a Betty x 11 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 14 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 F6F-5N Hellcat x 24 Japanese aircraft losses G3M3 Nell: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M3a Betty x 20 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 12 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 F6F-5N Hellcat x 21 Japanese aircraft losses G4M3a Betty: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 22 Ki-21-IIb Sally x 4 Ki-48-Ib Lily x 17 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 8 Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6 Ki-49-IIb Helen x 6 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 11 F4U-1A Corsair x 9 F6F-5N Hellcat x 20 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-Ic Sally: 7 damaged Ki-21-IIb Sally: 1 damaged Ki-48-Ib Lily: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-61C Black Widow: 2 damaged P-61C Black Widow: 1 destroyed on ground P-51H Mustang: 2 destroyed on ground P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 12 The IJAAF does good work again. It should be noted that only my inferior squadrons are being committed here. My good squadrons are all upgrading to the Ki-67b and sitting in the rear training. When a pivotal period is reached I'll commit the better bombers and should surprise my opponent with the sudden jump in numbers and effectiveness of my strikes. Right now though it suits me to get him to base some 400 planes at Okinawa and feel pretty comfortable there. Taking them out now won't give me a major opportunity for anything strategically important. When he brings his entire CV fleet in close in order to cover a major supply run and is relying on those airfields to provide CAP.... then that's the time to strike. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Naha , at 95,66 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 34 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIb Helen x 3 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 7 F6F-5N Hellcat x 18 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Manila , at 79,77 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 12 Allied aircraft P-61C Black Widow x 12 F6F-3N Hellcat x 7 F6F-5N Hellcat x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-61C Black Widow: 2 destroyed F6F-3N Hellcat: 2 destroyed F6F-5N Hellcat: 2 destroyed Allied Ships xAK Brown Victory, Bomb hits 1, on fire CVE Sitkoh Bay, Bomb hits 1 CVE Prince William, Bomb hits 1 BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 1 BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1 Ah, my first test raid achieved beyond expectations. Two CVEs hit.... Time to commit the rest of the force over the next few days... Also, note the crazy kill rate of fighters. Today this group of 12 planes lost its FIRST plane of the war. 3 of the remaining 11 pilots are ACES and the Chutai has suffered 1 loss in return for 32 A2A kills. Needless to say this Chutai is one major reason we are looking at trimming defensive bomber accuracy even more. It is just far too lethal. Port hits 1 Port fuel hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Daito Shoto , at 98,69 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft PB4Y-2 Privateer x 16 No Allied losses Runway hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 157 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 48 minutes Japanese aircraft J1N1-S Irving x 25 J1N1-Sa Irving x 5 Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 13 Ki-102c Randy x 18 Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 126 B-29B Superfort x 32 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged B-29B Superfort: 6 damaged Heavy Industry hits 1 Manpower hits 21 Fires 11920 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 38 minutes Allied aircraft B-32 Dominator x 25 Allied aircraft losses B-32 Dominator: 2 damaged Runway hits 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 158 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 49 minutes Japanese aircraft J1N1-S Irving x 17 J1N1-Sa Irving x 2 Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 9 Ki-102c Randy x 11 Allied aircraft B-29-25 Superfort x 81 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged Heavy Industry hits 2 Manpower hits 15 Fires 18656 My fighters couldn't intercept them. They were all just driven off by concentrated defensive fire. I think the night time A2A algorithms assume combat boxes and give a combat box bonus whereby multiple B29s fire at the attacking aircraft just like in the daytime. Current date addendum: I've looked into this closely since this turn and my conclusion is that the night-time bomber model uses the daytime A2A combat model and thus instead of 1 night-fighter trying to amush 1 bomber you are getting night-fighters attacking into a combat box with all the defending bombers firing at them, just like in daytime. That is why we are seeing night-fighters being so ineffective. I'm going to post to michaelm about this this week once I marshall the full, necessary examples. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 157 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 54 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 178 No Allied losses Runway hits 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 141 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 48 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 37 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Hirosaki/Aomori at 117,53 Japanese Ships E No.83 LST T-174 LST T-156 LST T-147 LST T-142 LST T-137 Allied Ships SS Lapon, hits 4, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses P-61C Black Widow: 3 destroyed on ground F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground F4U-4 Corsair: 2 destroyed on ground P-51H Mustang: 1 destroyed on ground F-6D Mustang: 1 destroyed on ground P-47N Thunderbolt: 6 destroyed on ground About 30 planes destroyed on the ground. Not a bad result. Note the high prevalence of fighters. He is obviously CAPing with F4U4s and P-47Ns and sweeping with the P-51Hs. Japanese Ships BB Nagato CA Takao CL Sakawa Oops, I forgot to have the DDs bombard as well. Ah well, there's always next time. Allied ground losses: 187 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 6 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 10 (8 destroyed, 2 disabled) I was surprised at the size of the ground losses. 22 squads, 2 guns and 8 vehicles DESTROYED by a bombardment is a result I'm not used to. It is welcome but unexpected. Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 25 F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Nagato BB Nagato firing at Naha CA Takao firing at 232nd USN Base Force 232nd USN Base Force firing at CA Takao CL Sakawa firing at 93rd Infantry Division -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 96,66, Range 20,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Nagato CA Takao CL Sakawa DD Hibiki DD Maki DD Kiri DD Sugi DD Kashi DD Kaya DD Nara DD Tsubaki DD Yanagi DD Nire DD Hagi DD Kaki DD Shii DD Sumire DD Odake DD Kaba DD Hatsuume DD Tochi DD Kamikaze DD Harukaze DD Sawakaze DD Shiokaze Allied Ships PT-61 PT-82 PT-114, Shell hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Amami Oshima at 97,63 Japanese Ships E Habuto E Io E Urumi E Otsu E Shisaka E Takane Allied Ships SS Spot, hits 26, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Naga at 82,79 Japanese Ships SS I-58, hits 12 Allied Ships DD O' Brien II DD Preston II -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Okinoerabushima at 96,65, Range 20,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Nagato CA Takao CL Sakawa DD Hibiki DD Maki DD Kiri DD Sugi DD Kashi DD Kaya DD Nara DD Tsubaki DD Yanagi DD Nire DD Hagi DD Kaki DD Shii DD Sumire DD Odake DD Kaba DD Hatsuume DD Tochi DD Kamikaze DD Harukaze DD Sawakaze DD Shiokaze Allied Ships PT-61 PT-82 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Amami Oshima at 98,63 Japanese Ships CL Sakawa BB Nagato CA Takao DD Tochi DD Hatsuume DD Kaba DD Shii DD Kaki DD Hagi DD Nire DD Tsubaki DD Nara DD Kaya DD Kashi DD Kiri DD Maki DD Hibiki DD Shiokaze DD Sawakaze DD Harukaze DD Kamikaze Allied Ships SS Cavalla, hits 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Amami Oshima , at 98,64 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 42,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-100-I Tony x 1 Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 9 No Japanese losses No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 45,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Because of the strangely low warning time despite a maximum altitude sweep very few of my planes got into the air and the Americans got off lightly. Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 8 J7W1 Shinden x 15 N1K5-J George x 10 Ki-94-II x 11 Ki-201 Karyu x 11 Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 50 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 3 destroyed J7W1 Shinden: 2 destroyed N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed Ki-94-II: 1 destroyed Ki-201 Karyu: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-51H Mustang: 2 destroyed When I look in the air losses screen I see about 14 P-51Hs lost... Overall I lost about 1:1 over Nagoya, which is pretty much in line with expectations. Weirdly the N1K5J did the best of all my planes even though the Ki-94II and Ki-201 should, technically, have done better. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 100,60 Japanese Ships BB Nagato CA Takao DD Tochi DD Hatsuume DD Kaba DD Kaki DD Nire DD Tsubaki DD Nara DD Kaya DD Kashi DD Kiri DD Maki DD Hibiki DD Shiokaze DD Sawakaze DD Harukaze DD Kamikaze Allied Ships SS Odax, hits 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Naga at 82,79 Japanese Ships SS I-58, hits 27, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Laffey II DD Monssen II DD Jarvis II Below is the air losses tab from today. Not bad, the Allies are losing more than me. Actually this understates their losses as the air loss POINTS tab shows they have actually lost 1999 planes as of today. So, this understates their losses by 10% [image]local://upfiles/10809/AB53BFAB08704E29A31F1CDB404A68CE.jpg[/image]

princep01 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/31/2011 12:55:09 AM)
I'm lazy. But, I also have an inquiring mind. What is a Ki 264 Angel? Is it a bomber, a fighter or a fighter/bomber? Is it a jet propelled AC? I haven't studied the very late war much, but did this AC actually go into production? It seems very capable. Range info, armament info, please? Thanks.

paullus99 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/31/2011 1:42:30 AM)
Supposedly, this would have been modeled after the German M-264 Heavy Bomber (one or two prototypes were produced).

Erkki -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (5/31/2011 9:42:51 AM)
Regarding gunners, Nemo: the twin machine guns in Allied 4Es, B-25, B-26, A-20, Wellington etc. Do you know if the "dice roll" for hits is calculated per each mount or each gun? I see the number of hits they score at extreme ranges skyrocket in relation to gun, not mount, numbers. I have never seen a G4M or G3M score a hit with the 20mm cannon, but Allied bombers with the 4 to 8 50 cals facing the attacker more often than not hit the attacker before it even gets to shoot back. Experimenting with "twin/quad mounted" guns with doubled or quadrupled effect of the gun but same penetration, range and accuracy(adjusted in bombers) could be worth the try.

Nemo121 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (6/3/2011 4:29:23 PM)
The Ki-264 is a Japanese-produced variant of the Amerika bomber ( Me-264 ) designed to bomb New York from bases in Germany. Basically the Ki-264 required 6 engines ( reduced to 4 engines about 1 week into October because we ran into an issue where we had to up and downgrade bomber squadrons to get the changes we made to bomber loadouts take hold. The Allies repaired their bombers within a week or so. In that time a total of 16 Ki-264s were repaired out of about 150. I postulated that that was due to the number of engines so we reduced the number of engines and reduced the maintenance rating from 5 to 4. So far the changes look to result in more reasonable repair times. ) and had its range hugely reduced in order to model a large bombload, need for slightly shorter runways and heavy defensive armament. It is basically the Japanese answer to the B-29-25 being almost identical in many respects. The G9M is a postulated torpedo-carrier carrying 6 torpedoes in internal torpedo bays and is a sort of specialised carrier-killer really. I felt that it was a reasonable extrapolation of the IJNAF war-fighting philosophy trading 50% of its range in order to be even more heavily armed and armoured and to serve as a heavy torpedo bomber, able to fight its way into the core of USN CV TFs. It actually can't really do that though as the USN fighters just gang up on them and nibble away a them BUT if you get 60 G9Ms into a major CVE TF with 6 to 8 CVEs then utter carnage follows. Historical? No. A possible what if? Possible but not likely. The Japanese did look at long-range Junkers and Heinkels but never progressed too far with those plans. Other changes we've made so far: 1. Increased USAAF P-61C production. 2. Added P-61As to the Allied arsenal and fixed the upgrade paths. 3. Fixed the upgrade paths for Ohkas which were broken by M6. 4. Added a troop transport capability to the Shinyos to simulate each Shinyo being able to carry about 1/10th of an IJN DD's troop load. Also added the ability to carry 1 Type 3 mine per Shinyo. Some of the IJN and IJA suicide boats were designed to use the majority of an IJN mine as their payload, detonatable by contact rods being rammed into the side of the enemy ship. 5. Reduced all bomber defensive fire accuracy by another 50% 6. Replaced the individual bombs on 4-engined bombers with STICKs of 4 bombs each. So the B-29 gets 4 sticks of 500lb bombs. Penetration and anti-armour effect remains the same while explosive effect is quadrupled. This should prevent the over-accuracy vs HI and other industrial targets whilst still preserving effectiveness vs infantry and airfields etc. 7. Modded the Ki-264 to have 4 engines and reliability of 4 vice 5 given the really weird inability to repair we found when we upgraded/downgraded them in order to get them to take the new STICK bomb loadout. Erkki, I have found it is much more related to number of mounts and number of bombers than guns per mount. This would jibe with the idea that the "box formation" bonus is somehow being over-applied. I have theories on why but nothing for sure yet. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 23, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 31 encounters mine field at Naha (95,66) Japanese Ships MTB G-872, Mine hits 1, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub vs Sub: SS Blueback attacking SS Ha-D-153 at 95,64 - near Nago Japanese Ships SS Ha-D-153, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Blueback -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Manila , at 79,77 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 153 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-264 Angel x 61 Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 13 P-61C Black Widow x 12 F6F-5N Hellcat x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-264 Angel: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed P-61C Black Widow: 1 destroyed F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Thetis Bay, Bomb hits 1, on fire Ah, CVEs.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Daito Shoto , at 98,69 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft PB4Y-2 Privateer x 16 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Amami Oshima at 97,64 Japanese Ships LB-528 LB-530 LB-523 LB-518 PB Chohakusan Maru Allied Ships SS Springer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Tokara Retto at 99,63 Japanese Ships E No.49, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage E No.118 E No.45 E No.215 E No.207 E No.205 Allied Ships SS Bumper, hits 16, on fire, heavy damage SS Bumper launches 4 torpedoes at E No.49 Bumper diving deep .... E No.207 attacking submerged sub .... SS Bumper forced to surface! E No.205 firing on surfaced sub .... Sub slips beneath the waves -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Tokara Retto at 100,63 Japanese Ships E No.37 E No.118 E No.215 E No.207 E No.205 Allied Ships SS Baya, hits 25, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Calayan at 82,71 Japanese Ships SS RO-50, hits 11 Allied Ships APD Crosley PF Brownsville LST-911 DD Charles Hughes DD Hilary Jones PF Poughkeepsie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Tanegashima at 101,63 Japanese Ships E No.118 E No.215 E No.207 E No.205 Allied Ships SS Croaker, hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Takao , at 84,65 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft P-38L Lightning x 25 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 44,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 14 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 82,73 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 3,100 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Sen Baku x 25 Kamikazes into the Northern Phillipines. I got lucky with the CAP altitude this time.... Allied aircraft F4U-4 Corsair x 20 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Sen Baku: 14 destroyed A6M2 Sen Baku: 1 destroyed by flak No Allied losses Allied Ships CL Trenton, Kamikaze hits 4, on fire DD Metcalfe DD Murray DD Mertz Trenton later sank. First CL kill of the game. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 82,73 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 1,100 feet. Estimated time to target is 17 minutes Japanese aircraft B4Y1 Jean x 5 Allied aircraft F4U-4 Corsair x 20 Japanese aircraft losses B4Y1 Jean: 1 destroyed B4Y1 Jean: 2 destroyed by flak No Allied losses Allied Ships CL Trenton, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 23rd Div Remnants , at 82,72 , near Aparri Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft Beaufighter 21 x 48 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 80 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Takao , at 84,65 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 193 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 66 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 125 No Allied losses Airbase hits 10 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Takao , at 84,65 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 140 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 42 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft A-26C Invader x 63 B-25J11 Mitchell x 60 P-38L Lightning x 56 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses A-26C Invader: 1 destroyed by flak B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 15 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 36 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 235 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nago , at 95,65 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 208 NM, estimated altitude 45,600 feet. Estimated time to target is 60 minutes Allied aircraft P-51H Mustang x 2 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Naha (95,66) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 84895 troops, 912 guns, 109 vehicles, Assault Value = 3152 I'll attack again when this is over 4,000. That should take about 9 days as I am flying in 100 AV a day and should be bringing in another 100 AV per day by say in October and onwards. I'll detail how this is being achieved later. Defending force 81613 troops, 550 guns, 1791 vehicles, Assault Value = 1612 Japanese ground losses: 304 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 23 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled) Allied ground losses: 78 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 126th Ind.Mixed Brigade 355th Division 26th Tank Regiment Hirohito Armored Division 17th Ind.Mixed Brigade 66th Ind.Mixed Brigade 312th Division 303rd Division 8th SP Gun Battalion 77th Division 4th Tank Division 21st Ind.Mixed Regiment 11th Tank Regiment 1st SP Gun Battalion 102nd Division 2nd Amphibious Brigade 107th Division Kamikaze Armored Division 3rd Guards Division 103rd Division 109th Ind.Mixed Brigade 4th Ind.Tank Brigade 5th Ind.Tank Brigade 56th Army 17th Hvy.Artillery Regiment 40th Army 16th Area Army 54th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 541st Parachute Regiment Tenth Army Combat Engineer Regiment 28th Airborne Tank Battalion 193rd Tank Battalion 296th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 97th Infantry Division 503rd Parachute Regiment 93rd Infantry Division 151st USA Base Force Fifth USAAF Eng Engineer Aviation Battalion 212th Coast AA Regiment 33rd Aviation Base Force 177th USAAF Base Force Tenth Army Engineer Aviation Battalion 165th Field Artillery Battalion 36th USN Naval Construction Regiment Tenth US Army 232nd USN Base Force 5th USMC Air Wing Base Force V US Fighter Cmnd 14th Marine AA Battalion 229th USN Base Force 35th USN Naval Construction Regiment 178th USAAF Base Force 77th Coast AA Regiment 6th USMC Air Wing Base Force Southwest Pacific 36th Aviation Base Force 46th Construction Regiment 54th TC Wing 230th USN Base Force 148th USA Base Force V US Bomber Cmnd II US Corps 462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion

princep01 -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (6/3/2011 6:31:57 PM)
Nemo and friends. A couple of observations. !. Japanese ASW seems overly effective in the few turns observed thus far. I realize that they did get better as the war progressed, but my impression (as it has been awhile since I read extensively on the subject) is that the IJN never got that good with surface ASW. Their aircraft got most the kills of the 52 Allied (or is that American?) subs lost in the Pacific if memory serves me well. 2. The Japanese did receive blueprints/plans for the Me-262. Do you guys plan to introduce an equivalent Japanese jet fighter?

Kapitanma -> RE: Nemesis... FatR PROHIBITED !!!! (6/3/2011 7:09:41 PM)
The Ki-201 is the Japanese jet fighter. As for escorts, I personally haven't reached super E's yet, so I won't comment. Kudos for the very interesting and thoughtful AARs Nemo. Your downfall ones are some of my favorite reads.

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