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larryfulkerson -> new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 12:45:23 AM)

Hey there everybody. I just now purchased WitP-AE and downloaded the program and the official patch and the beta patch and installed them and I'm wondering what the "tracker" program is and do I need it.

Any other news for a new guy will be appreciated.

What do I do first? Jump right into a PBEM and hope my opponent is a mentor?




AW1Steve -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 1:04:32 AM)

I'd recommend practicing against the AI 1st. Then for your 1st PBEM, start small, like Coral Sea. I generally recommend a mirror game , that is two games, playing the same senario, and you play each side, one as allied, one as axis.I'd do all the short scenarios before you do a "grand senario".

Let me know if you need a mentor, although there are many really super people in this forum all willing to lend a hand.

So welcome aboard! And enjoy! [:)]





Cribtop -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 1:06:21 AM)

Welcome! I'd read AARs to get some sense of how the game is played in PBEM while working your way through the smaller scenarios against the AI. Coral Sea, then Thousand Mile War, then Guadalcanal if you like. Then play at least the first few months of a campaign against the AI. Then go PBEM and never look back.

EDIT - Oops, looks like Steve and I hit "reply" at the same moment. Didn't mean to be an echo chamber.




erstad -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 3:25:21 AM)

Definitely Coral Sea first against the AI. All of the TFs you need are pre-formed and the objectives/playing area is pretty limited so it's a good way to start getting familiar with the mechanics and how things work. Don't worry about playing well the first time, just play. If you're familiar with the Coral Sea battle it helps because you have some idea what the forces are and what happened IRL.

I don't suppose you're related to Dave(and Kathy) Fulkerson?





larryfulkerson -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 3:41:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: erstad
I don't suppose you're related to Dave(and Kathy) Fulkerson?

Never heard of them. Sorry.....probably not directly related. Maybe through some ancient ancestor.




Canoerebel -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 4:26:58 AM)

Hey, we're from the same solar system!

Welcome to the club!  The game is very intuitive, but also unimaginably complex.  If you're a student of history as most players seem to be, you already have a good feel for the overall strategic situation, what forces you and the enemy have at their disposal, and when and where you might want to fight.  Yet there are so many nuances to the game that it takes months - maybe years - of playing and reading AARs to become familiar enough with the myriad important details and game oddities and problems to really become an expert.  But it sure is fun jumping in, taking lumps, scoring a few victories, and participating in a rather remarkable community.




Oliver Heindorf -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 9:51:00 AM)

Welcome to the show.

Tracker is useful to catch alot of things in the game which may in the normal game may stay hidden and got not recognized.

We pros highly recommend it but as a beginner you may just want to run the show first and see what happens. Once you are familar with the show and you know how to get things rolling, you'd may start asking yourself questions about unpgrades of ships, industrial managenment, supply usage etc etc. then it is time to bring Tracker up to the show.

One step after another my young padavan. [:'(]




GreyJoy -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 10:38:44 AM)

Welcome aboard!

I'm a beginner too (jumped in in Feb) and have to say that this game is overwhelming with a neverending learning curve!

However my way was to start with the coral sea scenario and then immediately jump into a gran campaign Pbem....useless to say i got my butt spanked[:D]...learnt so much in the process btw...so my suggestion is: get some confidence playing a small scenario against AI and then jump immediately in a Pbem which is what really teaches you




ny59giants -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 2:13:09 PM)

Tracker is a MUST if you play Japan to help you run the economy, IMO. The Japanese economy is a game within a game as you can crash it if you're not careful.

Good luck and kiss the rest of your life good bye!! [:D]




Phanatikk -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 2:24:05 PM)

If only tracker would work...<sigh>




Terminus -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 2:26:31 PM)

If it were me, I'd take Coral Sea first (against AI) and then Guadalcanal for a first PBEM.




n01487477 -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 3:16:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phanatik

If only tracker would work...<sigh>

And yet in your 42 posts you've not asked for help in the Tracker thread...

Welcome Larry - good luck in the last real game you may ever need to buy or play. Let's hope not though cause WitpII would be a shame to miss[;)]




Prydwen -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 3:29:52 PM)

Welcome to the Mad House! [:D]

ItsAMadHouse




Joe D. -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 4:12:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Hey there everybody. I just now purchased WitP-AE and downloaded the program and the official patch ...


Since you're already "Matrix Legion of Merit," what have you been playing up to this point?




Rob Brennan UK -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 4:18:25 PM)

Welcome to AE !




quelita -> Hello !!! (5/23/2011 4:50:05 PM)

Hello...

Welcomed....

I'am not an expert not either an active member but my first time playing was the full pacific campaign (in WITP not the AE) playing the japs to worsen things but it came smoothly at the end.


Bye




Phanatikk -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 5:30:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: n01487477

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phanatik

If only tracker would work...<sigh>

And yet in your 42 posts you've not asked for help in the Tracker thread...


It's against my religion to ask for help... [8|]

But actually, I have read much of the tracker thread, checked the website, installed/uninstall/re-installed, ad nauseum.

- Ph




nashvillen -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 5:44:44 PM)

Phanatik,

Shoot me an email with your problems, I will help you work them out so it will work for you.




n01487477 -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 5:48:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phanatik


quote:

ORIGINAL: n01487477
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phanatik

If only tracker would work...<sigh>

And yet in your 42 posts you've not asked for help in the Tracker thread...

It's against my religion to ask for help... [8|]

But actually, I have read much of the tracker thread, checked the website, installed/uninstall/re-installed, ad nauseum.

- Ph

Cheers - well I had to offer, but I respect your right to follow your particular brand of religion and its seemingly cloistered outlook [;)]

Sounds like there is some self flagellation with the installation cycle though [:'(]

But I'm glad your religion is still rooted in Latin "ad nauseum"; maybe a little more fasting might help ...

Cheers - no offense meant [8D]




Terminus -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 6:01:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Hey there everybody. I just now purchased WitP-AE and downloaded the program and the official patch ...


Since you're already "Matrix Legion of Merit," what have you been playing up to this point?


Larry is a well-known TOAW player.




SuluSea -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 6:47:17 PM)

Welcome to AE , Larry!! [:)]




TulliusDetritus -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 7:38:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Terminus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Hey there everybody. I just now purchased WitP-AE and downloaded the program and the official patch ...


Since you're already "Matrix Legion of Merit," what have you been playing up to this point?


Larry is a well-known TOAW player.


And he is an endless AAR-writing machine (WitE) [:)]




DivePac88 -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 8:17:51 PM)

Welcome to the game larryfulkerson...

When AE first came-out;

I carried the manual around with me for six months, and read it about a hundred times from cover to cover. I the did a small scenario against the AI, then a human (twice). I am now into my fourth grand campaign start, and hope this is the one I finish.




Phanatikk -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/23/2011 9:18:56 PM)

n01487477,
No worries.

Big Mac,
JFBs need to stick together! to frustrate the running dog capitalists trying to keep us from exploiting the East, just so they can.




jazman -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/24/2011 12:18:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phanatik

n01487477,
No worries.

Big Mac,
JFBs need to stick together! to frustrate the running dog capitalists trying to keep us from exploiting the East, just so they can.


Nice try, but the Japanese were not pro-Communism / Marxism.




jazman -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/24/2011 12:21:31 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Hey there everybody. I just now purchased WitP-AE and downloaded the program and the official patch and the beta patch and installed them...


Tired of having a life?




Terminus -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/24/2011 12:29:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jazman


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phanatik

n01487477,
No worries.

Big Mac,
JFBs need to stick together! to frustrate the running dog capitalists trying to keep us from exploiting the East, just so they can.


Nice try, but the Japanese were not pro-Communism / Marxism.



What a stupid comment...[8|]




jazman -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/24/2011 1:06:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Terminus


quote:

ORIGINAL: jazman


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phanatik

n01487477,
No worries.

Big Mac,
JFBs need to stick together! to frustrate the running dog capitalists trying to keep us from exploiting the East, just so they can.


Nice try, but the Japanese were not pro-Communism / Marxism.



What a stupid comment...[8|]


Edited: penitence.




witp1951 -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/24/2011 1:19:36 AM)

Welcome from TOAW, Larry.




GaryChildress -> RE: new guy in town.......knows nothing about witp-ae (5/24/2011 2:05:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Hey there everybody. I just now purchased WitP-AE and downloaded the program and the official patch and the beta patch and installed them and I'm wondering what the "tracker" program is and do I need it.

Any other news for a new guy will be appreciated.

What do I do first? Jump right into a PBEM and hope my opponent is a mentor?


Welcome to AE! Basically I would jump into a PBEM game first thing as the AI won't be much fun. Start out with a small campaign like the Guadalcanal scenario or something. Just advertise in the "Opponents Wanted" forum that you are brand new to the game, looking for someone with a similar skill level.

If you want to dive right into a grand campaign you might try starting out with a team game. Maybe 2 x 2, definitely not more than 3 x 3. In a team game each individual can choose a particular piece of the map and concentrate on just that one area. At the same time it's a great way to make friends in the forum.

Good luck!




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