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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns
So if we only total up the years covered for the SU (42-45), the axis only built 208,923 Trucks/Lorries in the same time frame as the SU's 197,100. So baring some proof of huge numbers of captured trucks used from France and other western conquests, it now appears to me that the SU had a similar truck pool to the axis, though probably a bit smaller overall.

Jim

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ORIGINAL: morvael

Soviet players, once ready, probably want to launch offensives all along the entire front and never stop until Berlin, which is why they will complain for the lack of trucks to support their behemoth army. Maybe this (waiting for truck pools to build up by being passive for months between offensives, launching offensives not on all fronts at once, stopping once certain amount of ground was captured to let the rail heads catch up) is the reason why IRL the Red Army advanced in "jumps" and not like an unstoppable avalanche, even though it outnumbered Heer by so much. Maybe Wehrmacht was not the main reason it took the Soviets 3 years to finish the Reich once the tide turned, maybe it was the truck shortage problem. That would suggest that even if the numbers are off the historical values, they model what they should - Soviet truck shortage. Adding or removing a few k of them should not change the general situation.

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ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

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ORIGINAL: morvael

Soviet players, once ready, probably want to launch offensives all along the entire front and never stop until Berlin, which is why they will complain for the lack of trucks to support their behemoth army. Maybe this (waiting for truck pools to build up by being passive for months between offensives, launching offensives not on all fronts at once, stopping once certain amount of ground was captured to let the rail heads catch up) is the reason why IRL the Red Army advanced in "jumps" and not like an unstoppable avalanche, even though it outnumbered Heer by so much. Maybe Wehrmacht was not the main reason it took the Soviets 3 years to finish the Reich once the tide turned, maybe it was the truck shortage problem. That would suggest that even if the numbers are off the historical values, they model what they should - Soviet truck shortage. Adding or removing a few k of them should not change the general situation.

Nah, that's not it. Truck pools don't seem to hardly bulge even when the front is static. (Say, during mud turns.)

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Vehicles and Trucks are interchangeable names in game terms in WitE. Yes, you are getting 3k vehicles/trucks per turn in lend lease. The idea of vehicles/trucks is that they are roughly 1 ton equivalents. So in theory two 2 1/2 ton trucks would equate to 5 "generic" vehicles in WitE. It is possible that we'll increase Soviet vehicle lend lease in the later war years to account for the greater proportion of 2 1/2 ton trucks that came in Lend Lease. It's under discussion at the moment.

The one thing I don't understand is how you say you have a VEHICLE surplus but also have a TRUCK shortage. Since Vehicles and Trucks are different names for the same thing in WitE, how can you have both a surplus and a shortage. Can you explain with screen shots?

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ORIGINAL: pat.casey

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Vehicles and Trucks are interchangeable names in game terms in WitE. Yes, you are getting 3k vehicles/trucks per turn in lend lease. The idea of vehicles/trucks is that they are roughly 1 ton equivalents. So in theory two 2 1/2 ton trucks would equate to 5 "generic" vehicles in WitE. It is possible that we'll increase Soviet vehicle lend lease in the later war years to account for the greater proportion of 2 1/2 ton trucks that came in Lend Lease. It's under discussion at the moment.

The one thing I don't understand is how you say you have a VEHICLE surplus but also have a TRUCK shortage. Since Vehicles and Trucks are different names for the same thing in WitE, how can you have both a surplus and a shortage. Can you explain with screen shots?

I'll get some screenshots when I get home, but that'll be tonight (like 10 hours).

This might be a terminology disconnect on my parts though.

If I look top right of hte main screen I have, say 70k (214k) truck (yellow or red showing I'm low).

If I bring up my production report (the round gear) and scroll down to the generic section I have, among other things, manpower, armaments, and vehicles as generic pools.

I am production, I think, 130 vehicle points/turn.
I have a "pool" of vehicles that I though was around 700,000

Possible I'm misreading though and a pool of 700,000 actually equates to 70k truck equivalents at 10:1 or some such?

If so then the lend-lease aid of 3,000 points/turn is actually about 300 trucks/turn or about 15,000 trucks year isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: JAMiAM

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ORIGINAL: pat.casey

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Vehicles and Trucks are interchangeable names in game terms in WitE. Yes, you are getting 3k vehicles/trucks per turn in lend lease. The idea of vehicles/trucks is that they are roughly 1 ton equivalents. So in theory two 2 1/2 ton trucks would equate to 5 "generic" vehicles in WitE. It is possible that we'll increase Soviet vehicle lend lease in the later war years to account for the greater proportion of 2 1/2 ton trucks that came in Lend Lease. It's under discussion at the moment.

The one thing I don't understand is how you say you have a VEHICLE surplus but also have a TRUCK shortage. Since Vehicles and Trucks are different names for the same thing in WitE, how can you have both a surplus and a shortage. Can you explain with screen shots?

I'll get some screenshots when I get home, but that'll be tonight (like 10 hours).

This might be a terminology disconnect on my parts though.

If I look top right of hte main screen I have, say 70k (214k) truck (yellow or red showing I'm low).

If I bring up my production report (the round gear) and scroll down to the generic section I have, among other things, manpower, armaments, and vehicles as generic pools.

I am production, I think, 130 vehicle points/turn.
I have a "pool" of vehicles that I though was around 700,000

Possible I'm misreading though and a pool of 700,000 actually equates to 70k truck equivalents at 10:1 or some such?

If so then the lend-lease aid of 3,000 points/turn is actually about 300 trucks/turn or about 15,000 trucks year isn't it?

I think you're confused...[:D]

Seriously though, it sounds like you're misremembering something, or misinterpreting what you've read. Maybe you're referring to the repair pool? To the pool of vehicles in units? Screenshots, obviously, will help to identify what you're looking at, when you get the chance.