RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T36 (Full Version)

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T36 (8/27/2011 10:57:24 PM)

Here's the T36 (19FEB1942 ) front lines before any Soviet movement

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T36 (8/27/2011 11:15:20 PM)

Here's a CR showing the divisions sorted biggest to the top. Quite a few Cav Corps in there. Respectable CV's showing on them.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T36 (8/27/2011 11:59:40 PM)

I moved some more people in to gang up on those three Finn divisions and got more hits this time. Slowly.........slowly.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T36 (8/28/2011 2:54:13 AM)

Here's my moves with an overlay showing my attacks:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T36 (8/28/2011 2:58:37 AM)

Here's the OOB, losses, destroyed units, and production for this turn (T36)

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T37 (8/28/2011 4:05:05 PM)

Here's the T37 front lines before any Soviet movement has taken place.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T37 (8/28/2011 4:10:16 PM)

Those 3 Finn Divisions surrendered for some reason. I was expecting another "held" result and they didn't.



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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T37 (8/28/2011 11:01:42 PM)

Here's my moves with an overlay showing my attacks



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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 2:46:13 AM)

I almost forgot to grab a shot of the front lines before I move stuff. Consequently, I already have started moving all the Soviet stuff by
Lake Ladoga northeast of Leningrad but other than that nothing else has moved yet. This is the T38 front lines:

EDIT: T38 is 5Mar1942

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 2:56:21 AM)

Here's the Leningrad situation now. I'm trying to eliminate the Finn threat with just two Armies, the 2nd and 3rd Shock Armies.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 3:06:43 AM)

Here's the area SW of Leningrad

EDIT: I'm continuing to push West but upon hitting much higher Axis CV's I'm thinking of reverting to defensive mode
and start digging forts and fall-back lines a little to the east. Just in case KLilly launches a spring offensive of his
own.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 3:21:39 AM)

Here's the area north of Smolensk. I've been using these guys to push to the west but it's so late in the season now, we're running into stronger and stronger Axis units and so I'm thinking of using the weaker parts of the Army to hold the front lines, just dig in, and have the cream of the divisions in the second or back-up, line ready to counter-attack any Axis penetration he might attempt.


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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 3:31:09 AM)

Here's the area south of Smolensk and west of Bryansk. These people too are going to go into defensive mode if and when they meet the stronger less push-able Axis units to dig in and prepare back-up lines to the east.

EDIT: I found the 8th Airborne Corps still belonging to Stavka.....I'm going to have to assign it to the Bryansk Front pretty quick now.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 3:41:27 AM)

This shot of the area around Gomel, west of Orel and Kursk, reveals that I have some mixed-front things going on and I need to correct that as soon as I can safely.

EDIT: That neon-blue division is sitting on the rails ready to move to the next spot that needs buffing up. I don't remember the numerical
digits of that division. Lemme look that up and get back to you.

EDIT 2: That's the 10th Army from the West Front. I'm thinking maybe I should rail this bad boy ( the division) to the area where the
West Front is fighting. They could dig back-up lines or something useful.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 3:58:05 AM)

Here's the area to the west of Kharkov. It's a remarkable array of Fronts from north to south. No two adacent Armies have the same front. It's a mess. I'm glad I did this pictuire......now I know I have a command issue that needs to be looked into. I may have to save up some AP's to fix this mess.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 4:06:01 AM)

Here's what it looks like north of Odessa......more Front mixing and you know what?.......I'm not sure mixing fronts like in this instance is really a detrement. What kinds of penalties could effect the game? Probably combat. Maybe that's why I should spend somje time unmixing these divisions and fronts.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 4:12:31 AM)

About 1/3 of a Million people were added to the front-line manpower this turn alone. It's growing by leaps and bounds.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 4:19:10 AM)

Listing the units ( excepting the Partisans ) by %TOE the scroll thumb goes down to about 1/3 the travel of the scroll bar so I'm estimating that I have about a third of my units in refit and the rest are in reserve or rdy.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 4:33:51 AM)

I went through the Commanders Report to move all the U-2VS 's to the NR and re-assign groups to that airbase that would be more efficient to the assigned mission than the aging biplanes. I'm thinking of disbanding all of them, but there's about 30 groups of U-2VS's still and I don't want to spend that kind of AP's to do that. There's no way to change the aircraft type of that air group and the only other way to get rid of them is to disband the group so I'm at a loss as to what to do with them. All my SAD air bases are being disbanded by the AI so I don't get a say in what to base at them anymore. I'm running low on available air bases. I suppose I COULD build some air bases but there's a cost like 25 AP's or so to build one of them. I don't know that I want to employ the U-2VS's that much. Anybody have an opinion? This is an air base on which I moved the U-2VS's to the NR and replaced them with these bombers and fighters.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 4:38:20 AM)

Once I moved all the U-2VS's to the NR I looked to see how many planes are there now and found 2200+ planes there so I'm thinking I need to buy at least one air base just to deploy some of the Migs and Laggs and Yak-1's. I'd like to see them shoot down some more Axis planes and I need them deployed to do that.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 4:42:38 AM)

Unfortunately, air bases aren't on the list of things I can buy. Anybody know if they are EVER available? Maybe I should check that Soviet unit list and see. Hold on one minute. I went through the list of things the Soviets can create and didn't see airbases on it. I guess that means I'll have to bump all the existing air bases up to the max level and fix damaged planes by moving them to the NR. Maybe the AI will create some air bases for me to use in some future turn real soon now.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 5:39:19 AM)

I've got 381 AP's to spend on something and I'm still ahead in trucks so far. What should I buy? Tank Corps? I've got a lot of tanks in the pool. I don't think I need any more rifle divisions yet, I've got reserves of those. Maybe some arty tubes? I haven't built any separate arty tubes yet. Just a thought.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 6:32:13 AM)

I bought 3 Rifle Divisions and left them parked on Tula since they are frozen for a couple of turns. I have been moving units ( I started in the north and am working my way south ) and found a spot that has no back-up units. It's just a naked division between the Axis and Russia. So I guess I need to purchase some back-up units to get ready for the spring/summer '42 Axis offensive 'cause I'm pretty sure that KLilly have have enough time to rest/refit his units a bit and still get in some kind of a strong push maybe a pocket or two before the mud starts to hid prior to winter again. So I have to prepare for it. Just in case.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 6:41:41 AM)

Here's that naked spot in the front lines I mentioned above. I have the 10th Army ( tourcoiuze color ) racing to the area even as we speak to make some back-up lines and dig in to build forts. Maybe I should spend some of those AP's on forts?

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 7:23:34 AM)

Here's my T38 moves with an overlay showing my attacks:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 7:37:34 AM)

Here's the OOB, losses, destroyed units and production for T38

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randallw -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 8:37:02 AM)

Putting the tank corps together will be expensive; you'll use up all those 500 APs in one turn and still have to wait for the next turn to finish all the conversions.

Mixing units of different commands produces penalties in combat power; it shows in the battle report where the units are listed.

The computer will automatically build more airbases as more air units are deployed on the screen.



randallw -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 8:38:41 AM)

You should be hitting mud turns soon, then ground dries up and the panzer corps will be trying to go wild again, so it certainly is time to think about defensive lines and fort levels.



bigbaba -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 11:37:43 AM)

i realy doubt that you need to build any forts larry. in his state the german can not even start a local attack.you have him on the run so continue attacking! because we want a realistic game act like stalin and order them to attack attack attack.:)

you are doing totaly different then in your first game larry. congratulation on that.



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T38 (8/31/2011 4:35:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw
Putting the tank corps together will be expensive; you'll use up all those 500 APs in one turn and still have to wait for the next turn to finish all the conversions.

I've saved up a bunch of AP's to do the tanks ( 380+ ).

quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw
Mixing units of different commands produces penalties in combat power; it shows in the battle report where the units are listed.

Oh. Okie dokie. That answers that.

quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw
The computer will automatically build more airbases as more air units are deployed on the screen.

I thought so. Thanks.

quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw
You should be hitting mud turns soon, then ground dries up and the panzer corps will be trying to go wild again, so it certainly is time to think about defensive lines and fort levels.

I've already started building fall-back lines and digging for fortifications.



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