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Chickenboy -> RE: Is there an AAR where the US cracks the KB? (8/31/2011 5:37:51 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Nemo121
1. In your initial quote you didn't limit yourself to that statement but included the following statement which contained the crucial conditional modifying the preceding sentence ( which you've isolated and quoted out of context in your second reply ).
2. Isolating one sentence out of context and basing a response on that out of context single sentence isn't really a fair representation of my point IMO.
I believe you may not have seen that the 2nd sentence and its conditional modifier applying to the first sentence is crucial to properly understanding the first sentence. So, perhaps a simple misunderstanding.
Overall though, you are more than welcome to your point of view. It may well reflect your in-game experience. My in-game experience as represented by AARs is that KB has been rendered irrelevant on many occasions by deception operations which placed it in the wrong place at the crucial time - I'd also point out that part of placing it in the wrong place at the crucial time is ensuring your plan has a component to fix it in that place at that time. That's just a basic element of planning which I didn't think it was necessary to explain.
Of course, perhaps my assessment of the outcome of my deception and redirection operations is faulty and my assessment of their impact on my opponent is faulty and my belief that the coming together of the multi-month plan to place KB "elsewhere" at the crucial time and fixing it there rendering it irrelevant is also wrong. Personally I believe that the above chain was crucial to success but, obviously, you are more than welcome to differ in your opinion an identify different issues as being the crucial ones etc etc.
1. In paragraph construction, sentences that do not convey the meaning of the paragraph can be singled out as aberrant or misplaced for the greater meaning of the paragraph's intent. A paragraph whose meaning twists around "can"s, "maybe"s, "kindas", and "your mileage may vary" may be rendered confusing to readers when absolute statements are therein imposed. To whit:
God may exist. Some believe in a God. God is an absolute. People have different beliefs about the existence of God.
It's OK to call out this paragraph structure for the discrepancies in the third sentence, citing the relation of this sentence to the entire paragraph and the meaning of same.
Thus, I felt justified in singling out the absolute statement contained in your posting. Of course, you are welcome to your own opinion about how to construct meaningful messages devoid of contradiction, but this is my experience.
2. I saw your second sentence (and all the other sentences in your posting for that matter). I was pointing out the dichotomy of your (mostly) qualified sentences with the seemingly out of place absolute statement that I singled out.
3. Overall, you are certainly welcome to your point of view regarding the value of deception in your games as a neutralizing force for KB's existence. Personally, I would rather not rely on deception in the absence of liquidation.
In other words, I have a heirarchy for how likely KB is to interfere with an operation. From most likely to least likely, these considerations are:
A. (most likely): KB is in an unknown location and has not been decisively engaged in the game.
B. KB is in a known location, but within striking distance of the operation in question. It has not yet been decisively engaged in the game.
C. KB is in a known location, but out of striking distance of the operation in question. It has not yet been decisively engaged in the game.
D. (least likely) KB has been decisively engaged and destroyed. It's location (the bottom of the sea) has been confirmed by the tests of time and Allied SigInt.
Choice "D" is as close as I'm coming to an absolute in this game. Reliance on choices A-C is, in my opinion, fraught with peril. Of course, your mileage may vary in the games that you have played. It is my opinion that deception is a less certain factor upon which to base one's actions in the game. This all the moreso for new or inexperienced players.
For the OP: KB CAN be diminished by innumerable factors, as described above. WRT your original post-there are several instances of KB encountering chance collisions at sea, running out of fuel, inappropriate carrier air settings leading to its destruction, torpedoeings by Allied submarines and-yes-even freak occurences ("Shokaku disappears at sea and is never heard from again" being one of my favorites). It's not at all unheard of for one of the carriers to be torpedoed by an Allied sub, thus 'cracking' up the original operational six members of the group.
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