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PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 4:29:05 AM)

Are you sure the death star is here?




witpqs -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 5:05:28 AM)

Nice job!




JocMeister -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 5:41:05 AM)

Nice work! That is a huuuuge strike! Donīt think I have ever seen such a big and coordinated strike. [X(]

Whats your secret? [:D]




Yaab -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 7:09:24 AM)

Uhm, why would anyone put CVEs on the front line is beyond me. Paper-thin armor or lack thereof, even a 15kg GP bomb will penetrate deck/sides/tower.

So, how many sailors dead? 10,000?




JocMeister -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 7:47:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Yaab

Uhm, why would anyone put CVEs on the front line is beyond me. Paper-thin armor or lack thereof, even a 15kg GP bomb will penetrate deck/sides/tower.

So, how many sailors dead? 10,000?


Iīm pretty sure no sailors were hurt in the strike besides pixel ones... [;)]

Thing is with the CVEs that you get a gazillion of them. So they are expendable and I donīt think DOCUP have many fleet CVs left now? Besides, in this case the only difference would have been sunk CVs instead of CVEs. Even if konius strike would have been half the size of what it was it would have annihilated anything floating.




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 9:46:55 AM)

9 March 1945

Night phase

Night start with sinking of few cargo ships i had near enemy fleet.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 134,55, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Nitiyo Maru, Shell hits 24, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Ryoyo Maru, Shell hits 35, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Remey
DD Ringgold
DD Robinson


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 134,55, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AK Sakito Maru, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Sasako Maru, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
xAK Ikuta Maru, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Howe
BB King George V
BC Renown
DD Maddox
DD Mansfield
DD Taussig
DD John W. Weeks


I send against them 25 torpedo boats. But only one of five TFs manage to localize enemy

Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-873
MTB G-874
MTB G-875
MTB G-876
MTB G-877, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Richelieu
DD Sigourney
DD Sproston
DD Stembel
DD Strong
DD Taylor
DD David Taylor
DD Thatcher



Finally enemy enter Shimushiri-jima. But there Japanese Cruisers waiting for them.
Battle was one sided. Japanese CA and DD lost.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Amatsukaze
DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Michishio, Shell hits 1
DD Arashio

Allied Ships
BB Richelieu
DD Sigourney
DD Sproston
DD Stembel
DD Strong
DD Taylor
DD David Taylor, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Thatcher

Ant night end




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 9:50:24 AM)

9 March 1945

Day naval phase
Allied ships finish with TB.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-873, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-874, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-875, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-876, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Richelieu
DD Sigourney
DD Sproston
DD Stembel
DD Strong
DD Taylor
DD David Taylor
DD Thatcher




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 9:50:40 AM)

Nothing unload at night or during day naval phase.
I think we should replay that turn with Docup but this time his Amphibious TF should not fallow SAG but should be fallowed by SAG.




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 10:05:25 AM)

9 March 1945

AM air phase

LBA time. Strike start with early morning. Planes fly from Sapporo, Bibaro, Paramushiro-Jima and Onnekotan-jima.
Fighters from Kushio giving extra CAP to KB and SAGs in area.
I only show major strikes, i will skip strike when 5 bombers without escort and not get trough etc.

First strike of day(planes from Bibaro)
Morning Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 52
B6N2a Jill x 26
N1K2-J George x 100
Ki-84a Frank x 36

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 42
Hellcat F.II x 21
Seafire IIC x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
FM-2 Wildcat x 17
F4U-1A Corsair x 115
F4U-1D Corsair x 28
F6F-3 Hellcat x 247
F6F-5 Hellcat x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 18 destroyed, 1 damaged
B6N2a Jill: 14 destroyed, 2 damaged
N1K2-J George: 7 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat F.II: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Tulagi
CVE Fanshaw Bay, Kamikaze hits 1



And another one (planes from Sapporo)
Morning Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 35
Ki-83 x 165

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 42
Hellcat F.II x 19
Seafire IIC x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
FM-2 Wildcat x 16
F4U-1A Corsair x 111
F4U-1D Corsair x 28
F6F-3 Hellcat x 237
F6F-5 Hellcat x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 12 destroyed
Ki-83: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE White Plains, Bomb hits 1, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 43
P1Y2 Frances x 9
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 17

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 6
Seafire L.III x 17
F4U-1D Corsair x 44
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9
F6F-5 Hellcat x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
P1Y2 Frances: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 33
P1Y2 Frances x 13

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 6
Seafire L.III x 15
F4U-1D Corsair x 40
F6F-3 Hellcat x 6
F6F-5 Hellcat x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 5 destroyed
P1Y2 Frances: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Seafire L.III: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 32
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 41
Hellcat F.II x 19
Seafire IIC x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 105
F4U-1D Corsair x 25
F6F-3 Hellcat x 231
F6F-5 Hellcat x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 12 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Activity


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 112 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 72

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 41
Hellcat F.II x 19
Seafire IIC x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 102
F4U-1D Corsair x 24
F6F-3 Hellcat x 222
F6F-5 Hellcat x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 10 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 13

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 6
Seafire L.III x 9
F4U-1D Corsair x 31
F6F-3 Hellcat x 4
F6F-5 Hellcat x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 4 destroyed
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CVL Independence



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 104 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 13

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 3
Seafire L.III x 9
F4U-1D Corsair x 28
F6F-3 Hellcat x 3
F6F-5 Hellcat x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 5 destroyed
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CV Bennington


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 24
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 9

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 14
Corsair IV x 41
Hellcat F.II x 16
Seafire IIC x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 97
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
F6F-3 Hellcat x 207
F6F-5 Hellcat x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Wilkes-Barre
DD Laws
CLAA Argonaut
CL Pasadena
DD Longshaw


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 4

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 14
Corsair IV x 41
Hellcat F.II x 16
Seafire IIC x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 93
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
F6F-3 Hellcat x 202
F6F-5 Hellcat x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 2 destroyed
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi



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There was also huge 4E strike on Paramushiro-Jima where i lost over 60 planes on ground, but AF is still open.





koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 10:12:16 AM)

9 March 1945

PM air phase

At beginning not much happens. Remnants from morning attack where to week to get trough CAP.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 7
B6N2a Jill x 6
N1K2-J George x 54
Ki-84a Frank x 31

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 41
Hellcat F.II x 20
Seafire IIC x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
FM-2 Wildcat x 17
F4U-1A Corsair x 93
F4U-1D Corsair x 28
F6F-3 Hellcat x 196
F6F-5 Hellcat x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed
B6N2a Jill: 2 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 6 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed


I start to be woried that KB wwill not engade. But it looks that waterer abowe KB was better afternoon
And finally KB planes arrive. When i saw number i was sure it will be bloody for allies. Especially that allied CAP after Hours of fight was in mess

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 289
B7A2 Grace x 332
D4Y4 Judy x 345

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 41
Hellcat F.II x 20
Seafire IIC x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 90
F4U-1D Corsair x 23
F6F-3 Hellcat x 178
F6F-5 Hellcat x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 3 destroyed
B7A2 Grace: 24 destroyed, 8 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y4 Judy: 23 destroyed, 10 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
Hellcat F.II: 2 destroyed
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 6 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Liscome Bay, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Tulagi, Bomb hits 1
CVE Tracker, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Hoggatt Bay, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Manila Bay, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CVE Attu, Bomb hits 10, and is sunk
CVE Cape Esperance, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
CVE Ranee, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Natoma Bay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CVE Nehenta Bay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
CVE Ommaney Bay, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CVE Ameer, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Roi, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Raby, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
CVE Activity, Bomb hits 12, and is sunk
DE Thomason, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CVE Casablanca, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Kitkun Bay, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Rajah
DE Osmus, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Whitehurst, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
DE Spangler, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Lloyd E. Acree, Bomb hits 3, Kamikaze hits 2, and is sunk
DE Abercrombie, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
DE Neuendorf, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
DE John C. Butler, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
CVE Kadashan Bay
CVE White Plains, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Fanshaw Bay, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk






koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 10:13:31 AM)

After all some troops unload,and Jap garrison shell them

Ground combat at Shimushiri-jima (132,51)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 240 troops, 21 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 694

Defending force 9267 troops, 172 guns, 464 vehicles, Assault Value = 242

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
61st Division
61st Ind.Mixed Brigade
29th JNAF AF Unit
25th Special Base Force
63rd JNAF AF Unit
20th JNAF AF Unit
3rd Medium Mortar Battalion
3rd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
44th Tank Bn /2
775th Tank Bn /4
37th (Sep) Infantry Rgt /1
52nd Marine Defense Battalion
28th Canadian AA Rgt /1
4th Eng Amph Bde /1
1 USMC Seacoast Art
238th USN Base Force
XXIV CorpsArtillery /1






koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 10:19:38 AM)

MAP

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koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 10:26:05 AM)

Email i send to Docup


Hi. I think something go wrong with Your op.
I am no telling about air phase, but amphibious phase. I have proposition.

Let replay that turn again but You will give proper orders to land on island and not orders to falow SAG. end we will see how this end.
We Do it proper way and not criple you op becouse of engine limitation. They shoul start unlaoding just after arrival in night.

PS. I will hold making turn until You response

koniu




Lowpe -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 12:27:36 PM)

What a gentlemen![:)]

I can't believe you have 700 AV on that island, what to the rest of the Islands in the Kuriles look like?




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 1:20:35 PM)

We replay turn this time amph TFs go directly with unload.
It was different turn.

TB manage to damage sunk some enemy APAs and APAs. And damage with TT at lest one BB.
For cost of two DD jap CAs almost anihilate enemy CL TF sinking, prabably, 3 Cleveland class cruiser and few DD. Later they duel with enemy CAs damaging at lest two of them

After that unload start.

At day no combat in AM phase. In PM phase LBA and KB fly. Carnage was big. Allies lost less CVE s but more damage go toward amph and SAG s.

Allies unload 1700av on island but i believe they pay higher price for that

Details when back from dinner with my sister




zuluhour -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/20/2015 1:49:24 PM)

very sporting of you




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/21/2015 6:47:13 AM)

As i mention earlier we replay last turn.
Time to do again combat summary. Map will be later when i back home.

Naval phase

At beginning allied SAGs sunk cargo ships and two Es i have on they way. It was fast and brutal. But this time PT have more luck. and they start intercepting allied ships.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 134,55, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E No.138, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
E No.207, Shell hits 13, and is sunk


Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Quincy
CA Tuscaloosa
DD Hall
DD Halligan
DD Izard
DD Killen
DD Farenholt

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 134,55, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AK Sakito Maru
AK Sasako Maru
xAK Ikuta Maru

Allied Ships
APA Haskell
APA Bowie
APA Highlands
APA Sarasota
APA LaGrange
APA Tazewell
APA La Porte
APA St. Mary's
APA Latimer
APA Pitt
APA Natrona
APA Drew
APA Oxford
APA Eastland
APA Telfair
APA Mountrail
APA Montrose
APA Marvin McIntyre
APA Gage
APA Noble
PF Annapolis
PF Ogden
PF Orange
PF Carson City

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 134,55, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Nitiyo Maru
xAK Ryoyo Maru

Allied Ships
CVE Casablanca
CVE Liscome Bay
CVE White Plains
CVE Kitkun Bay
CVE Fanshaw Bay
CVE Kadashan Bay
CVE Hoggatt Bay
CVE Tulagi
CVE Tracker
CVE Rajah
DE Stewart
DE Decoy
DE Paul G. Baker
DE William C. Cole
DE Currier
DE Fieberling
DE Foreman
DE Gendreau
DE Alvin C. Cockrell
DE Conklin

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 134,54, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AK Sakito Maru, Shell hits 37, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Sasako Maru, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Ikuta Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Quincy
CA Tuscaloosa
DD Hall
DD Halligan
DD Izard
DD Killen
DD Farenholt

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 134,54, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Nitiyo Maru, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Ryoyo Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk


Allied Ships
DD Remey
DD Ringgold
DD Robinson

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,53, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-550
MTB G-551
MTB G-552, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-553
MTB G-555

Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Quincy
CA Tuscaloosa
DD Hall
DD Halligan
DD Izard
DD Killen
DD Farenholt

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,53, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-548
MTB G-549
MTB G-840
MTB G-841
MTB G-842, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Quincy
CA Tuscaloosa
DD Hall
DD Halligan
DD Izard
DD Killen
DD Farenholt




And finally we have some luck


Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,53, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-878, Shell hits 1
MTB G-880
MTB G-882, Shell hits 1
MTB G-883
MTB G-884

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 2
BB Texas, Shell hits 3
APA Sibley
APA Magoffin
APA Effingham, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
APA Hendry
APA Mellette, Shell hits 4
AKA Circe, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AKA Corvus, Shell hits 1
AKA Pamina
AKA Sappho
LSD Ashland
LSD Epping Forest
LSD Gunston Hall
LSI(L) Australia Star
LSI(L) Brisbane Star
PF Poughkeepsie
PF Glendale
PF San Pedro, Shell hits 1, on fire
PF Coronado, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (3 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,53, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-843
MTB G-844
MTB G-846
MTB G-848
MTB G-872, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
BB Texas, Shell hits 1
APA Sibley
APA Magoffin
APA Hendry
APA Mellette
AKA Corvus
AKA Pamina
AKA Sappho
LSD Ashland
LSD Epping Forest
LSD Gunston Hall
LSI(L) Australia Star
LSI(L) Brisbane Star
PF Poughkeepsie
PF Glendale
PF San Pedro, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
PF Coronado, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-873
MTB G-874
MTB G-875
MTB G-876
MTB G-877, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
BB Texas
APA Sibley
APA Magoffin
APA Hendry
APA Mellette, Torpedo hits 1
AKA Corvus
AKA Pamina
AKA Sappho
LSD Ashland
LSD Epping Forest
LSD Gunston Hall
LSI(L) Australia Star
LSI(L) Brisbane Star
PF Poughkeepsie
PF Glendale, Shell hits 1

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-548, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
MTB G-549, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

MTB G-840
MTB G-841, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Arkansas, Torpedo hits 1 [:D]
BB New York
APA President Hayes
APA President Polk
APA Thomas Jefferson
APA Crescent City
APA Freestone
APA Menard
APA Fond du Lac
APA Neshoba
APA Allendale
APA Kenton
APA Kittson
APA Rawlins
APA New Kent
LSD Belle Grove
LSD Casa Grande
LSD Carter Hall
PF Eugene
PF El Paso
PF Van Buren



It was grate job done by those MTB. But best part will just start. Jap CAs intercept and prabably sunk 3 allied CLs and DD for lose of two DD. Later they duel with enemy CAs. Both Jap CAs surwiwe and are id good shape. 2 weeks of repair max.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 4,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 3, on fire
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 16 lucky ship all hits in armor
DD Amatsukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

DD Michishio, Shell hits 2
DD Arashio, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
CL Pasadena, Shell hits 15, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Wilkes-Barre, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Vicksburg, Shell hits 28, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

CLAA Argonaut, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
DD Hopewell
DD Howorth, Shell hits 1
DD Irwin, Shell hits 1
DD Laws, Shell hits 1
DD Longshaw
DD McKee, Shell hits 3
DD Owen, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD William Porter, Shell hits 2
DD Porterfield, Shell hits 2

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Amatsukaze, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Michishio
DD Arashio, Shell hits 3, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Quincy, Shell hits 1
CA Tuscaloosa, Shell hits 9
DD Hall
DD Halligan
DD Izard, Shell hits 1
DD Killen, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Farenholt

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-843
MTB G-844
MTB G-846, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-848
MTB G-872, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 1
BB Nevada
CLAA Euryalus
CLAA Black Prince
DE J. Douglas Blackwood
DE Bowers, Shell hits 1
DE Darby
DE England, Shell hits 2, on fire
APA Menifee
APA Oconto
APA Laurens
AKA Aurelia
AKA Artemis
AKA Medea, Shell hits 3
AKA Athene
AKA Hydrus, Shell hits 1
AKA Devosa
LSV Catskill
LSV Ozark
LSV Monitor
LSD Shadwell
LSD White Marsh
LSI(L) Glenearn
LSI(L) Glengyle
LSI(M) Prince Henry, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage



After that as they should Allied troops tart landing on Shimushiri-jima




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/21/2015 9:35:28 AM)

AM air phase.

Quiet before storm,
Weather stop most almost everything from flying.
Only 100 B-29 attack AF at Onnekotan-jima destroying 50 planes on ground and closing AF for offensive missions

Biggest of almost 10 waves of bombers

Morning Air attack on Onnekotan-jima , at 136,48

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 9 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 4 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 12 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 40




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/21/2015 9:41:45 AM)

PM air phase

I was little nervous. I start to worry that KB will not fly and Victory will change in to disaster.
First we saw LBA attacking enemy fleet

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 50
B6N2a Jill x 26
N1K2-J George x 71
Ki-84a Frank x 36

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 42
Hellcat F.II x 21
Seafire IIC x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
FM-2 Wildcat x 17
F4U-1A Corsair x 115
F4U-1D Corsair x 28
F6F-3 Hellcat x 246
F6F-5 Hellcat x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 17 destroyed, 2 damaged
B6N2a Jill: 17 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat F.II: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Tracker
CVE Roi, Kamikaze hits 1
CVE White Plains


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 28
N1K2-J George x 4

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 40
Hellcat F.II x 19
Seafire IIC x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 112
F4U-1D Corsair x 26
F6F-3 Hellcat x 243
F6F-5 Hellcat x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 10 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CVE Hoggatt Bay, Kamikaze hits 1


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 10
N1K2-J George x 25

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 39
Hellcat F.II x 19
Seafire IIC x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 112
F4U-1D Corsair x 26
F6F-3 Hellcat x 242
F6F-5 Hellcat x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 4 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Kadashan Bay


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 12

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 39
Hellcat F.II x 19
Seafire IIC x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 110
F4U-1D Corsair x 26
F6F-3 Hellcat x 235
F6F-5 Hellcat x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 3 destroyed
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CVE Rajah, Kamikaze hits 1


They don`t do much but fighters fight well forcing lot of enemy planes to retreat. In some poit it will count on a favor of main KB strike




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/21/2015 9:45:43 AM)

And finally KB strike

Last strike of day if not counting few bombers that arrive after it

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 154 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 46 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 289
B7A2 Grace x 311
D4Y4 Judy x 298

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Corsair IV x 37
Hellcat F.II x 19
Seafire IIC x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 109
F4U-1D Corsair x 25
F6F-3 Hellcat x 224
F6F-5 Hellcat x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 5 destroyed
B7A2 Grace: 24 destroyed, 44 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 2 destroyed by flak
D4Y4 Judy: 12 destroyed, 21 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 6 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat F.II: 1 destroyed
Seafire IIC: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Fanshaw Bay, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
BB Nevada, Torpedo hits 1[:D]
BB Arkansas, Bomb hits 2

PF Orange
xAK Gard, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
BB Mississippi
CB Guam, Bomb hits 2, on fire
BC Renown, Torpedo hits 1[:D]
CA Astoria
BB Richelieu, Bomb hits 1
DD Hale
xAK Harvard Victory, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Preston II, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

CL Miami
DD Robinson
CVE Liscome Bay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CVE Tracker, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE White Plains, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Rajah, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CVE Casablanca, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Tulagi, Bomb hits 4, on fire
CVE Hoggatt Bay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CVE Kitkun Bay, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Kadashan Bay, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
BB New York, Bomb hits 2
APA LaGrange, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
xAK Virginia Cty Victory, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK United Victory, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

BB Texas
BB Howe
CA Quincy, Bomb hits 1[:D]
DD Strong
DD Paul Hamilton
xAK Saginaw Victory, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Benham II
DD Monssen II
xAK Joliet Victory
xAK Kingsport Victory, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Ringgold
DE Fieberling
DE Alvin C. Cockrell
APA Rawlins, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PF Ogden
xAK Brown Victory, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Hibbing Victory
DE Decoy
DE Foreman, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE William C. Cole
BB Colorado
APA Haskell, Torpedo hits 1
BB King George V
CA Tuscaloosa
DE Conklin, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK S. African Victory, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Sioux Falls Victory, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CB Alaska, Bomb hits 1

DD Izard
xAK Appleton Victory, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
DD Cushing II
xAK Laredo Victory
DE Paul G. Baker, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Currier, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

DE Stewart
APA Latimer
CA Pittsburgh
xAK Bozeman Victory, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
xAK Honduras Victory

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Gard
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE White Plains
Ammo storage explosion on CVE White Plains
Ammo storage explosion on CVE White Plains
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Kitkun Bay
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Kitkun Bay
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Kadashan Bay
Massive explosion on CVE Kadashan Bay
Banzai! - Hirano M. in a D4Y4 Judy is willing to die for the Emperor
Banzai! - Morita D. in a B7A2 Grace is willing to die for the Emperor
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Liscome Bay
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Fanshaw Bay
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Tracker
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Casablanca
Banzai! - Chiyoshima S. in a D4Y4 Judy is willing to die for the Emperor
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Rajah
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Rajah
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a VC2 Victory Cargo class xAK
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Preston II
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DE Foreman
Fuel storage explosion on CVE White Plains
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Rajah
Banzai! - Matsuo J. in a B7A2 Grace is willing to die for the Emperor
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Saginaw Victory
Ammo storage explosion on CVE White Plains
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK S. African Victory
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Sioux Falls Victory
Banzai! - Kubota T. in a D4Y4 Judy is willing to die for the Emperor
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Appleton Victory
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Tracker
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Bozeman Victory
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Kitkun Bay
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Wickes DE class DE
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Casablanca class CVE




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/21/2015 10:17:47 AM)

Groud combat

This time allied troop unload as they should. It not loking good for Japanise defenders.
If i hold 3-4 days i will be able to unload reinforments

I thik redoing turn was fair. Elier one was bad for Docup because of wrong orders to his Amph TF. This time it go as should.
Japanese defenders will have bad time now but turn was made fair and Docup suffer much bigger Navy loses that in original game. 3 CLs lost, CA and 4 BB damaged, many DD, DE, APA and AKA lost.


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Ground combat at Shimushiri-jima (132,51)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 17418 troops, 124 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 691

Defending force 56265 troops, 940 guns, 1538 vehicles, Assault Value = 1882

Japanese ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
61st Division
61st Ind.Mixed Brigade
63rd JNAF AF Unit
3rd Medium Mortar Battalion
20th JNAF AF Unit
25th Special Base Force
29th JNAF AF Unit
3rd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
711th Tank Battalion
98th Infantry Division
XI Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
44th Tank Battalion
31st Infantry Division
6th Marine Division
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
775th Tank Bn /4
192nd USAAF Base Force
4th Eng Amph Bde
52nd Marine Defense Battalion
238th USN Base Force
IX Corps Artillery
XXIV CorpsArtillery
1 USMC Seacoast Art
17th Marine Defense Battalion
28th Canadian AA Regiment





koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/21/2015 10:28:17 AM)

I am thinking to counterattack tomorrow.
I know that there are also fleet carriers near. I have no DL on them this turn but in original they where 90 miles SE of Shimushiri-jima. Only logical thing to do by Docup is retreat and back stronger. His ground troops will be ok for some time.

Docup suffer serious loses, he have lot of damaged ships. Many of his SAGs are out of ammo.
The same with battleships that use most of his ammo supporting landing.
If i do this right I can catch most of those damaged ships tomorrow.




Mike McCreery -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/21/2015 11:08:05 AM)

It was very honorable of you to let your opponent re-do the turn. It will make the game better for both of you ;]




Sangeli -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/21/2015 3:52:55 PM)

I don't think Doccup has any real shot in taking the base given your level 6 fort. Without control of seas and air the amphibious troops will get pinned down on the beaches with Japanese surepression. 50k soldiers going into Japanese captivity is not how you win in 45.




witpqs -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/21/2015 4:18:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wargmr

It was very honorable of you to let your opponent re-do the turn. It will make the game better for both of you ;]

+10!

Now kick his butt again! [:D]




PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 1:44:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: witpqs


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wargmr

It was very honorable of you to let your opponent re-do the turn. It will make the game better for both of you ;]

+10!



+11




PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 1:58:31 AM)

pound his ground forces ... keep their disruption up. Get CAP up over your forces to protect against his B29's ... if you end up denying him this beach head; Huge victory.

BANZAI!!!


[&o][&o][&o]




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 4:52:23 AM)

Waiting for turn from Docup.It will probably take some time for him to do it.

Plan for next turn is simple.

At night over 30+ torpedo boats will engage enemy fleet. 10% moonlight, lot of damaged ships and probably with fires should create perfect environment for them.
I am also sending small SAG.

KB will move closer to Shimushiri-jima. I hope leaky CAP from KB will cover air space over base. I also sending some LCAP from nearest AFs.
KB is reinforced by some LBA groups. Number of operational planes is 1095.

100 LBA bombers will attack ground troops.


I am moving more BBs closer to area. They will rotate and bombard enemy positions on island






PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 1:16:49 PM)

good plan! [sm=00000436.gif]





koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 3:16:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

good plan! [sm=00000436.gif]




It was not good plan

KB move toward Shimushiri-jima but some of allied carriers also. An we exchange fire.
At the end i will cal it tactical tie but small strategic allied victory.

What is worst Japanese KB bombers where decimated and i need retreat to take replacements and repair damaged carriers.

Japan lost CVE, CVL and another CVL and CVE are in bad shape.
Allies lost at lest 5 more CVE, CVL and few CV are damaged.


Details after i will have small drink. My hands are shaking






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