RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J)

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zuluhour -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 3:32:37 PM)
clash of the titans!

JocMeister -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 3:57:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: koniu Details after i will have small drink. My hands are shaking I remember those turns! [:D]

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 4:10:53 PM)
Naval phase Only rough reports. I skipping those without story -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,51, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-1003 MTB G-1004 MTB G-1006 MTB G-1007 MTB G-1013, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships APA Bowie APA Highlands APA Sarasota APA Tazewell APA La Porte APA St. Mary's APA Latimer APA Pitt APA Natrona APA Drew APA Oxford APA Eastland APA Telfair APA Mountrail APA Montrose APA Marvin McIntyre APA Gage APA Noble, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk PF Annapolis PF Ogden, Shell hits 1 PF Orange PF Carson City -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-550 MTB G-551 MTB G-553, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Colorado, Shell hits 1 BB Nevada, Torpedo hits 1 CLAA Euryalus CLAA Black Prince DE J. Douglas Blackwood DE Darby DE England APA Menifee APA Oconto APA Laurens AKA Aurelia AKA Artemis AKA Medea, heavy damage AKA Athene AKA Hydrus AKA Devosa LSV Catskill LSV Ozark LSV Monitor LSD Shadwell LSD White Marsh LSI(L) Glenearn LSI(L) Glengyle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-873 MTB G-874 MTB G-875, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage MTB G-876, Shell hits 2, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Arkansas BB New York, Torpedo hits 2, on fire APA President Hayes APA President Polk APA Thomas Jefferson APA Crescent City APA Freestone APA Menard APA Fond du Lac, Shell hits 1 APA Neshoba APA Allendale APA Kenton APA Kittson APA New Kent LSD Belle Grove LSD Casa Grande LSD Carter Hall PF Eugene PF El Paso PF Van Buren, Shell hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Etorofu at 129,52 Japanese Ships CV Unryu CLAA Tenryu CS Nisshin DD Takanami DD Niizuki DD Asakaze DD Kaya DD Hamanami DD Hayanami Allied Ships SS Bang, hits 2 SS Bang launches 4 torpedoes at CV Unryu[:D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-873 MTB G-874 MTB G-875, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships AKA Medea, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 4:14:16 PM)
AM air phase Morning Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 93 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft B7A2 Grace x 36 Ki-83 x 121 No Japanese losses Allied Ships xAK Gard, Bomb hits 13, and is sunk ----------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 135,51 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 31 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 181 B7A2 Grace x 164 D4Y2 Judy x 16 D4Y4 Judy x 139 Allied aircraft Corsair II x 21 Seafire L.III x 48 F4U-1A Corsair x 19 F4U-1D Corsair x 136 F6F-3 Hellcat x 80 F6F-5 Hellcat x 74 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 6 destroyed B7A2 Grace: 47 destroyed, 11 damaged D4Y2 Judy: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged D4Y2 Judy: 3 destroyed by flak D4Y4 Judy: 35 destroyed, 11 damaged D4Y4 Judy: 8 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses Seafire L.III: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed Allied Ships CV Franklin CV West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, on fire CV Randolph, Bomb hits 2, on fire CVE Shamrock Bay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Salamaua, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk DE Riley, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk CVE Savo Island, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVE Munda, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Santee, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DE Metivier CVL Unicorn, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires CV Shangri-La, Bomb hits 1, on fire CVL Independence CLAA Flint CVE Matanikau, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVL Bataan DE Thomas F. Nickel DE Holt, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Essex DE Hodges, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CV Enterprise DE George A. Johnson, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Shasukotan at 137,52 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 33 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 82 B7A2 Grace x 59 D4Y4 Judy x 34 Allied aircraft Corsair IV x 24 Hellcat F.II x 21 Seafire IIC x 3 F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 FM-2 Wildcat x 9 F4U-1A Corsair x 50 F6F-3 Hellcat x 58 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed B7A2 Grace: 33 destroyed B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak D4Y4 Judy: 15 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Natoma Bay DE Lloyd E. Acree CVE Attu CVE Cape Esperance CVE Manila Bay, Kamikaze hits 1 CVE Ommaney Bay CVE Activity, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage And allied counter ----------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,50 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 34 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 245 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 61 F6F-3 Hellcat x 50 F6F-5 Hellcat x 44 SB2C-1C Helldiver x 42 SB2C-3 Helldiver x 12 SB2C-4 Helldiver x 39 TBF-1 Avenger x 8 TBM-1C Avenger x 37 TBM-3 Avenger x 91 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed SB2C-1C Helldiver: 5 destroyed, 10 damaged SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak SB2C-3 Helldiver: 1 destroyed SB2C-3 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak SB2C-4 Helldiver: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak TBF-1 Avenger: 2 damaged TBM-1C Avenger: 7 destroyed, 6 damaged TBM-1C Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak TBM-3 Avenger: 29 destroyed, 5 damaged Japanese Ships CV Katsuragi CV Amagi, Bomb hits 2 CV Kaga CV Soryu CV Hiryu CVE Unyo CVL Chiyoda, Bomb hits 3, on fire CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CVE Taiyo CV Hiyo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires CV Shokaku CV Ikoma CVL Zuiho CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage CVL Ryuho, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Chuyo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires CV Kasagi CV Unryu, Bomb hits 1 CV Akagi

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 4:23:06 PM)
PM air phase -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 135,51 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 31 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 167 B7A2 Grace x 44 D4Y2 Judy x 10 D4Y4 Judy x 44 Allied aircraft Seafire L.III x 15 F4U-1A Corsair x 8 F4U-1D Corsair x 130 F6F-3 Hellcat x 5 F6F-5 Hellcat x 59 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed B7A2 Grace: 16 destroyed, 8 damaged B7A2 Grace: 2 destroyed by flak D4Y2 Judy: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged D4Y2 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak D4Y4 Judy: 23 destroyed, 2 damaged D4Y4 Judy: 3 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses Seafire L.III: 1 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV West Virginia CV Indefatigable CVL Independence, Kamikaze hits 1 CV Enterprise CV Shangri-La CVL San Jacinto CVL Bataan CV Randolph CV Bennington CV Essex, Bomb hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shasukotan at 137,52 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 112 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 35 B7A2 Grace x 18 D4Y4 Judy x 26 Allied aircraft Hellcat F.II x 10 Seafire IIC x 2 F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 FM-2 Wildcat x 8 F4U-1A Corsair x 30 F6F-3 Hellcat x 50 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed B7A2 Grace: 11 destroyed D4Y4 Judy: 10 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses Seafire IIC: 1 destroyed F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Nehenta Bay CVE Ameer CVE Manila Bay, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,50 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 36 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 180 Allied aircraft F4U-1A Corsair x 11 F4U-1D Corsair x 57 F6F-3 Hellcat x 11 F6F-5 Hellcat x 42 SB2C-1C Helldiver x 42 SB2C-3 Helldiver x 12 SB2C-4 Helldiver x 33 TBM-1C Avenger x 15 TBM-3 Avenger x 45 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed SB2C-1C Helldiver: 20 destroyed, 3 damaged SB2C-3 Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged SB2C-4 Helldiver: 12 destroyed, 1 damaged SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak TBM-1C Avenger: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged TBM-3 Avenger: 16 destroyed, 5 damaged TBM-3 Avenger: 4 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CVE Taiyo, Torpedo hits 2, on fire CV Zuikaku CV Unryu CV Soryu CV Akagi CVL Chiyoda, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Kaga CV Ikoma CV Hiryu CVE Unyo, Bomb hits 1, on fire CV Kasagi CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires CV Shokaku CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,51 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft B7A2 Grace x 36 Ki-83 x 107 Allied aircraft F4U-1A Corsair x 8 F4U-1D Corsair x 27 F6F-3 Hellcat x 4 F6F-5 Hellcat x 14 Japanese aircraft losses B7A2 Grace: 15 destroyed, 1 damaged B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak Ki-83: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships BB Nevada, Bomb hits 1, Kamikaze hits 2 BB Colorado LSD Shadwell, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Sangeli -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/22/2015 4:37:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: koniu KB move toward Shimushiri-jima but some of allied carriers also. An we exchange fire. At the end i will cal it tactical tie but small strategic allied victory. Your analysis is wrong here. Give yourself more credit! This was a strategic victory. If the Allies don't manage to wrest control of the seas from you they will lose 50k soldiers. Trading blows like you just did will have a much greater effect on the Allies. Especially because I think you got rather lucky on which ships where hit. You have LBA here the Allies do not. And you do not have to go back far to take replacements; the KB can be back in just a couple of days I bet while the Allies need to go back to Alaska for that. I think Allies will really be hurting to provide CAP now over the beaches.

PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/23/2015 12:32:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: koniu quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo good plan! [sm=00000436.gif] It was not good plan No, I think the plan was sound. The result might not have been optimal, but I wouldn't call it bad. As others have noted, if you stopped him from supporting the landing then strategically you won. If you are able to oust him from the beachhead, then tactically and strategically you win.

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/23/2015 4:36:41 AM)
Thanks for support. I did not sent turn. I needed one day to rethink next moves. Also it looks that another AC TF ~250 planes is moving toward Marcus Island. I am air lifting more troops there And about KB. If i retreat KB without loses, I should be able to replace planes and pilots in 48-72h. And for sure few days to rebuild morale. I should have 900 planes in service. Enough to keep Docup nervous. It all depend what Docup will do. If he stay, it will be difficult to reinforce island garrison. If he retreat to lick wounds i will try to unload another ID and some Arty and AT guns. Difficult times in front of me

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/23/2015 7:33:37 AM)
Boring in job so i am making summary of two last days. Only combat ships Lost planes: Japan 1000, Allies 500 planes Japan CV Taiho, Torpedo hits 1 CV Amagi, Bomb hits 2 CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CV Hiyo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires CV Unryu, Bomb hits 1 CVL Ryuho, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires CVL Chiyoda, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 1, on fire CVE Taiyo, Torpedo hits 2, on fire CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Unyo, Bomb hits 1, on fire CVE Chuyo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires CA Mikuma, Shell hits 4, on fire CA Suzuya, Shell hits 17 DD Amatsukaze, Shell hits 5 , on fire DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Urakaze, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Michishio, Shell hits 2 DD Arashio, Shell hits 4, heavy fires E No.138, Shell hits 4, and is sunk E No.207, Shell hits 13, and is sunk Allies CV West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, on fire CV Randolph, Bomb hits 2, on fire CV Shangri-La, Bomb hits 1, on fire CV Essex, Bomb hits 2 CVL Independence, Kamikaze hits 1 CVL Unicorn, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires CVE Roi, Kamikaze hits 1 CVE Rajah, Kamikaze hits 1,Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVE Fanshaw Bay, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CVE Liscome Bay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CVE Tracker, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE White Plains, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Casablanca, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CVE Tulagi, Bomb hits 4, on fire CVE Hoggatt Bay, Kamikaze hits 1, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVE Kitkun Bay, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Kadashan Bay, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires CVE Shamrock Bay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Salamaua, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk CVE Savo Island, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVE Munda, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Santee, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Matanikau, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVE Manila Bay, Kamikaze hits 1, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CVE Activity, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage BB Arkansas, Torpedo hits 1 BB Nevada, Torpedo hits 2, Bomb hits 1, Kamikaze hits 2 BB Richelieu, Bomb hits 1 BB New York, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire BB Arkansas, Bomb hits 2 CB Alaska, Bomb hits 1 CB Guam, Bomb hits 2, on fire BC Renown, Torpedo hits 1 CA Quincy, Shell hits 1, Bomb hits 1 CA Tuscaloosa, Shell hits 9 CL Pasadena, Shell hits 15, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Wilkes-Barre, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Vicksburg, Shell hits 28, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CLAA Argonaut, Shell hits 2, heavy fires DD Howorth, Shell hits 1 DE George A. Johnson, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires DD Izard, Shell hits 1 DD Killen, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Irwin, Shell hits 1 DD Laws, Shell hits 1 DD McKee, Shell hits 3 DD Owen, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD William Porter, Shell hits 2 DD Porterfield, Shell hits 2 DD Preston II, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DE Foreman, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DE Paul G. Baker, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DE Currier, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage DE Conklin, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DE Riley, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk DE Holt, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DE Hodges, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk APA Mellette, Torpedo hits 1 APA Effingham, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage APA LaGrange, Torpedo hits 1, on fire APA Rawlins, Bomb hits 1, on fire APA Haskell, Torpedo hits 1 APA Noble, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk AKA Medea, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk LSI(M) Prince Henry, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage LSD Shadwell, Bomb hits 1, on fire PF San Pedro, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage PF Coronado, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk PF Glendale, Shell hits 1

Sangeli -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/23/2015 3:43:57 PM)
Any idea what kind of CV and CVE assets the Allies would have left available at this point? I recall Docup losing many CVs earlier so I'm curious what he has left available right now.

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/23/2015 4:00:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sangeli Any idea what kind of CV and CVE assets the Allies would have left available at this point? I recall Docup losing many CVs earlier so I'm curious what he has left available right now. Estimated total power of allied carrier planes is 3000+ planes. But most of that are CVE. On CV it should be less that 1500 planes total In battle area i believe even 1000+ still operational.

Lowpe -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/23/2015 4:32:43 PM)
I agree with Pax and Sangell. +1 It always hurts to lose ships as Japan, but you have done really great. You came out well ahead I think.[&o]

Sangeli -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/23/2015 5:04:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: koniu quote: ORIGINAL: Sangeli Any idea what kind of CV and CVE assets the Allies would have left available at this point? I recall Docup losing many CVs earlier so I'm curious what he has left available right now. Estimated total power of allied carrier planes is 3000+ planes. But most of that are CVE. On CV it should be less that 1500 planes total In battle area i believe even 1000+ still operational. That estimate of total Allied CV capacity being 3,000 seems a bit high unless you are counting damaged ships. 1,000 left in the battlefield seems more appropriate I think. If that's the case then Docup has already lost around half his strength in damaged and sunk ships. What are you doing to aid your ground units in the battle? Are you flying in reinforcements yet? You probably can't get much through but a critical moment like this every little bit helps. All you really need to do is hold off until the Allies pull back which can't be much longer now.

PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/24/2015 3:41:21 AM)
I hate to say it, but I think you need to stick around. Here's my thinking: Allies have only two choices here: push forward, support the landings and get more supply/troops off-loaded OR Bail. If he bails, he is several days transit each way, so at least a week or more. You are only a day or two. Meaning you can be back long before he can. You have to wait and see what he does. Consolidate groups from damaged CV's and get those back to RSY's. Re-balance your TF's as best you can, bring up more LBA, continue to get more troops moving to the area. Don't get distracted by Marcus ... it is unessential. This landing is where you can punish him some more. If he comes forward, you need to be able to resist. I would not allow him to reinforce the landing unimpeded. If he leaves, you leave the next day. You will be back 2 or 3 days before he possibly can and during that time your LBA should be pounding his troops and you should be landing more in addition to strengthening the area and getting MORE LBA assets in place. Just my thoughts, use them as you see fit.

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/25/2015 10:56:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo If he leaves, you leave the next day. You will be back 2 or 3 days before he possibly can and during that time your LBA should be pounding his troops and you should be landing more in addition to strengthening the area and getting MORE LBA assets in place. I already air transport there 36 47mm AT guns and 18 75mm arty guns. Next turn i will start air transporting infantry. I have also full ID on ships ready to transport there but i need few days without DS for that. I have problem with LBA bombers to attack beachhead. They simply refuse to fly because of weather

veji1 -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/25/2015 5:00:59 PM)
Another hideous battle for Docup... gee he plays like a soviet general throwing his troops forward with no regard for losses.

PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 2:05:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: koniu I have problem with LBA bombers to attack beachhead. They simply refuse to fly because of weather I believe that is a Leadership roll (might be aggression?)... check your air group leader stats make sure it is > 60

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 9:52:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo quote: ORIGINAL: koniu I have problem with LBA bombers to attack beachhead. They simply refuse to fly because of weather I believe that is a Leadership roll (might be aggression?)... check your air group leader stats make sure it is > 60 In this case it was weather. Thunderstorms over Ominato and Hokadate for last 3 days

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 10:01:52 AM)
Spoiler alert I trying to imagine like last turn will look in real world. And i find this. What it have common with last turn. Point-blank range, battleships and violence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd5MqjvhW9c Report in few minutes

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 10:31:40 AM)
11 March 1945 I have ordered KB to retreat Wast. I plan to rearm and replace loses and be back in combat in 4 days. Most damaged ships where send to separate TF with order to try move toward Hokkaido. Major piece of KB manage to move safely East and now they are undetected near Kushiro. Tomorrow they arrive to home port and will refuel, rearm and replace planes. Sadly CVL Chiyoda sunk last turn. I have also two CVEs half way from Hokkaido. One if avoid subs will be safe. Second will probably sunk tomorrow (heavy damage and huge fires). To secure retret of KB, I have send BB SAG and lot of MTB toward allied fleet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,51, Range 2,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Ise BB Hyuga, Shell hits 3 DD Murasame DD Samidare DD Hatsushima Allied Ships BB Colorado, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DE Darby, Shell hits 5, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lack of escort???? Night Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 133,51, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-7 MTB G-547 MTB G-885 MTB G-886 MTB G-1003 Allied Ships BB Nevada, Shell hits 4 LSD Shadwell, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk LSI(L) Glenearn, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage LSI(L) Glengyle, Shell hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Ketoi-jima at 134,51, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-840 MTB G-1006 MTB G-1018 MTB G-1019, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships BB Nevada, Shell hits 1 LSI(L) Glengyle, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What a tasty target. Sadly manage to retreat before single shot was fired Night Time Surface Combat, near Ketoi-jima at 134,51, Range 30,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Ise BB Hyuga DD Murasame DD Samidare DD Hatsushima Allied Ships CLAA Euryalus CLAA Black Prince DE J. Douglas Blackwood DE England APA Menifee APA Oconto APA Laurens AKA Aurelia AKA Artemis AKA Athene AKA Hydrus AKA Devosa LSV Catskill LSV Ozark LSV Monitor LSD White Marsh -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Ketoi-jima at 134,51, Range 1,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Ise BB Hyuga, Shell hits 17 (small caliber hits) DD Murasame DD Samidare DD Hatsushima Allied Ships BB Nevada, Shell hits 28, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Ketoi-jima at 135,51, Range 2,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships MTB G-1004 MTB G-1013 MTB G-1015 MTB G-1016, Shell hits 1 MTB G-1017 Allied Ships CL Wilkes-Barre, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD William Porter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally BBs meet destiny. Out of ammo, after night of combat they try to retreat. But fletchers don`t give up. DDs try to screen battleships but at the end they fail. Night Time Surface Combat, near Ketoi-jima at 134,51, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Ise, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage BB Hyuga, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Murasame DD Samidare, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Hatsushima Allied Ships DD Gatling, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Albert Grant, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Watts DD Wren, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 10:43:01 AM)
BBs after battle. They are near Shimushiri-jima and will need to ronn for live. Sadly Ise is capable only for 6kn at full speed and even if survive for him war is over. 9 months is dry dock is optimistic [image]local://upfiles/37745/154F4414BEFB4EAD892D5FB69E1CC74A.jpg[/image]

PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 10:59:42 AM)
Nice outcome!!! BANZAI!!!

Lowpe -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 11:15:59 AM)
Criminal task force composition by the Allies in 1945. The mind boggles. Heads should roll in the American Admiralty. In this case, I guess they sank. [:D] Unbelievable turn of events. Glory to the Emperor![&o] [&o]

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 11:16:47 AM)
So day start. Again bombers dont attack enemy troops on Shimushiri-jima. Another wave of bpmbers attack allid fleet. But enemy CAP was strong but not as strong as expected. Docup was only able to send barely 170 fighters over main CV TF What is interesting all allied ships are fleeing East. His fleet is spread on 1000 miles. Also what i see are two CV TF. It looks like ~400 fighters and 200 bombers total. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Paramushiro-jima at 141,52 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 39 minutes Japanese aircraft B6N2 Jill x 51 J2M5 Jack x 30 Ki-84r Frank x 27 Allied aircraft Seafire L.III x 14 F4U-1A Corsair x 7 F4U-1D Corsair x 99 F6F-3 Hellcat x 11 F6F-5 Hellcat x 49 Japanese aircraft losses B6N2 Jill: 22 destroyed, 2 damaged B6N2 Jill: 2 destroyed by flak J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CVL Independence CV West Virginia CV Franklin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Paramushiro-jima at 141,52 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 40 minutes Japanese aircraft B6N2 Jill x 24 J2M5 Jack x 4 Ki-84r Frank x 18 Allied aircraft Seafire L.III x 14 F4U-1A Corsair x 7 F4U-1D Corsair x 95 F6F-3 Hellcat x 11 F6F-5 Hellcat x 48 Japanese aircraft losses B6N2 Jill: 12 destroyed J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Seafire L.III: 1 destroyed F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Shasukotan at 137,52 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft J2M5 Jack x 33 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 21 Allied aircraft Hellcat F.II x 21 Seafire IIC x 1 FM-2 Wildcat x 8 F4U-1A Corsair x 45 F6F-3 Hellcat x 42 Japanese aircraft losses J2M5 Jack: 3 destroyed Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 11 destroyed No Allied losses Allied Ships CVE Natoma Bay, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire only hit of day -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Shasukotan at 137,52 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft J2M5 Jack x 1 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 40 Allied aircraft Hellcat F.II x 20 Seafire IIC x 1 FM-2 Wildcat x 8 F4U-1A Corsair x 41 F6F-3 Hellcat x 39 Japanese aircraft losses J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 17 destroyed, 2 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships CVE Ommaney Bay CVE Cape Esperance CVE Nehenta Bay CVE Attu There was few more attacks but they dont get trough CAP

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 11:21:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Criminal task force composition by the Allies in 1945. The mind boggles. Heads should roll in the American Admiralty. In this case, I guess they sank. [:D] Unbelievable turn of events. Glory to the Emperor![&o] [&o] I believe in this case Docup have no chose. I believe Docup left those BBs behind. They where heavily damaged. Both eat TTs earlier. Both with critical damaged from fuel or ammo explosion. they probably was not able to move fast enough to catch with main fleet so Docup sacrifice them so save other ships.

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 11:24:29 AM)
And groun battle. Allies bring hammer. Not sure how long i will hold. What is good. Forts hold, so maybe i will hold few more days Ground combat at Shimushiri-jima (132,51) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 46950 troops, 855 guns, 1210 vehicles, Assault Value = 1900 Defending force 23545 troops, 233 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 676 Allied adjusted assault: 484 Japanese adjusted defense: 1661 Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 6) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3181 casualties reported Squads: 17 destroyed, 249 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 52 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 32 disabled Guns lost 53 (20 destroyed, 33 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1258 casualties reported Squads: 8 destroyed, 67 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 41 disabled Guns lost 40 (1 destroyed, 39 disabled) Vehicles lost 20 (2 destroyed, 18 disabled)

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 11:29:06 AM)
And Map [image]local://upfiles/37745/F38BB4AC1D254D419C9F57980927A7AA.jpg[/image]

PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/26/2015 11:56:21 AM)
Well, he is bailing out. Get your reinforcements in quick. Bombardment TF's will help during poor weather. You will have to stage your xAKE's in Etorfu (or your biggest port up there depending what you have built up) to rearm the TF's. IIRC, Aden converted will rearm your 36cm guns .. can't remember if they rearm the 40cm on the Nagato's or not ...

koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/27/2015 6:31:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo Well, he is bailing out. Get your reinforcements in quick. Bombardment TF's will help during poor weather. You will have to stage your xAKE's in Etorfu (or your biggest port up there depending what you have built up) to rearm the TF's. IIRC, Aden converted will rearm your 36cm guns .. can't remember if they rearm the 40cm on the Nagato's or not ... Aden class AKE can rearm all expect Yamato. I have one sailing there, should be in few days. Another one in week+ maybe As You write it looks he is retreating. Time to use that window. Full elite Guard ID will next turn move toward Shimushiri-jima. TF will move 6 hexes daily and need to travel 15 so i am expecting landing at night of day 3. KB will tomorrow enter Ominato port. Refueling, rearming, standard maintenance.(only one day) Most of groups already fly to Ominato AF, and they take replacements. In next two days they will all fly back to KB. After one day on Ominato KB - without Zuikako, Taiho and with only one CVL - will back to sea and at day 3 should join Amph TF adding support to landing operation By air i will move as much as i can. It is chance to transfer 100AV daily with all those TR planes i have Question is if i will hold two more days If something will be in range tomorrow i expecting first combat use of Ki-115b as kamikaze That 382mph speed and 800/500kg bomb load should work nice

PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (9/27/2015 10:57:46 AM)
I have found Tsurugi to be very effective. BANZAI!! Based on your screenshots, I think you will hold unless you get really bad luck. Double check LCU leaders is about all you can, and maybe a weather break to get some LBA bombing runs. Good Luck!

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