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CowboyRonin -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/13/2012 12:01:38 AM)

In the series of screenshots above, I noticed a pocket of Volkhov Front mobile units behind a line of Northwest Front infantry. Are those there as reserves, and, if so, does the chain of command issue hurt reserve activation?




randallw -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/13/2012 9:51:33 AM)

I notice that sometimes my guys facing the Finns suffer attrition without getting much in replacements....probably terrain eats up the range from the railhead. I recently noticed that sometimes my northernmost HQ runs out of supplies; how is your 7th ( Independent ) Army HQ doing? ( if it's empty, that's trouble! )




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/13/2012 8:21:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CowboyRonin
In the series of screenshots above, I noticed a pocket of Volkhov Front mobile units behind a line of Northwest Front infantry. Are those there as reserves, and, if so, does the chain of command issue hurt reserve activation?


Hmm, yes, I see the units you are talking about. If they had to fight, yes, there would be command penalties. Anyway, er, this "alcoholic mob" (as I had accurately described them), is not supposed to see any fight [8D]

Cavarly divisions and tank brigades that is. I had pulled them back in spring 42 IIRC. I was supposed to form cavalry and tank corps with them... But, I did not have APs left: I had to rebuild the Red Army. And now I am trying to upgrade to the v 2.0.

When I sent them there they were supposed to attract Marquo's attention, which I doubt they did by the way [:D] But in any case they would be doing something "useful", instead of sitting idle.

In the end it's the attack up north against the Finns that has finally attracted Marquo's hordes, so fair enough. And by the way, when I started trashing them Finns I was not thinking about that at all. I simply er, wanted to have a good laugh, that's all [:D]

In any case, sooner or later I will merge these alcoholic bast*rds and thus form some more cavarly and tank corps. On the next months I guess.




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/13/2012 8:29:32 PM)

Randall, not sure something is wrong with these 7th Army guys. There's no big difference between this army and many other armies.

I have to admit that I am not checking these numbers. I never do that, to be honest. Either they are ready to die for ME (as opposed to Mother Russia) or they can go screw themselves!

I'm here to win (or lose for that matter [sm=00000622.gif]) a war, the guys in the rear better send the vodka, potatoes and accordions. Because it's THEIR job.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/17/2012 8:47:13 PM)

Turn 104

10 June 1943


Not a proper update as there is mud everywhere. But I am about to launch er, Operation Crazy Anatoly [:D]

Now just let's hope I won't be running out of names! [8|]

As Klydon had said -and it's common sense and in fact it's what the Stavka always did- you have to launch minor and yet somewhat powerful offensives in other parts of the front. To tie German reserves basically and therefore to make sure the main offensive (in my case, the infamous Operation Crazy Ivan) is more or less successful. In any case I can't allow Marquo to deploy all his reserves in the major offensive area.

Sooooooo... you better look at the screenshot as a picture is worth a thousand words.

If anything, I will say that if it works (and it should work as Marquo is rather busy elsewhere [sm=00000622.gif]) this would definitely protect the Caucasus. Then the Stalino area should be in my radar.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/17/2012 9:03:16 PM)

To help in this operation I am dispatching the 1st Shock Army (two rifle Corps but three on next turn) and the 5th Tank Army.

And I am sending ALL the artillery divisions not already engaged in the main offensive... Only six artillery / breakthrough divisions that is, which goes to show I am really massing them artillery / rocket things in the major effort. As it should be [8D]

I think that all these forces could succeed but we will see. I still have two non committed Stavka Reserve Armies: the 32nd and 58th, with plenty of corps, especially Guards (the 58th). And not counting individual divisions I could divert from quiet fronts (but here I have to pay APs).

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/17/2012 9:52:55 PM)

As for up north or Operation Crazy Dmitri, I think Marquo thought he caught me off guard. This is what he wrote when he sent the turn 103:

"I am hoping that this turn may be a bit more challenging for you".

Not really [:)] I am pretty certain the reserves I brought should have stopped him cold. Let's hope I don't have to swallow these words later! [sm=innocent0001.gif]

In any case, I reactivate the primitive plan for my artillery brigades. I send them up north (along with cavalry divisions) to terrorize the Finns. In theory I could be able to create a big mess if I manage to inflitrate the flanks of these weak, defenseless units [sm=00000622.gif]

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Klydon -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/17/2012 11:15:10 PM)

The operation in the south should be interesting from the standpoint that you got a nice soft spot in the line there between a unfortified hex and then Luftwaffe troops to the north next to Hungarians.

Too bad he pulled his panzers a bit to the south, but they are still there and now accounted for.

Don't forget you can use a pile of recon in certain areas to sort of "stimulate" German interest in a given spot to keep him guessing further. [:D]




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/19/2012 2:28:06 PM)

Turn 105

17 June 1943


Ok, now everything is set up. We just need to find a good excuse, start the whole thing and bang... fast, treacherous kick in the groin!




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/19/2012 2:33:16 PM)

Anyway, as for excuses, I have plenty of them! He's dared to do some agressive moves!

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/19/2012 2:41:57 PM)

I haven't moved yet (but I am sharpening the butcher knife eh), here you can see what he dared to do! [:D]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/19/2012 9:26:21 PM)

The south (or Operation Crazy Anatoly) first. As I suspected it was rather easy here. Still, some armored units are behind the German frontline so Marquo should be planning some sort of revenge.

Still, the Tank & Shock Army and the artillery divisions did their job so fair enough [8D]

In fact I think I will bring the 58th Stavka Army. The other last reserve army (32nd) will go to the north (next posts). And that means all the reserve armies will be 100% committed.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/19/2012 9:35:47 PM)

The center (aka Operation Crazy Ivan), oh well... a carnage [:D]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/19/2012 10:42:14 PM)

And finally the north or Operation Crazy Dmitri. Only two attacks. Cavalry that just had arrived (with 6 MPs left [sm=00000028.gif]) helped to kick the enemies out.

You can see a swarm of units (cavalry divisions and tank brigades). I will not, repeat, NOT reassign them to other commands. I need all the few APs I have. I won't waste them here up north. Attack & try to infiltrate, command penalties or not. So be it [;)]

The thing is the Finns are way too weak so these attacks should succeed. Yes or yes.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/19/2012 10:59:03 PM)

And the general situation up north. Marquo has deployed many armored unis at the frontline. Advancing is going to be a problem, if not a mere pipe dream. But I will keep pushing in the north. Either he reinforces that part or what can stop me (far from railheads or not)?

My prediction is that he will a) strike with the panzers in the northern tip or 2) he will send some German units to make his position stronger.

But as long as a) and b) are not true I will keep pushing. Simply... to have a good laugh (after all it's the only place where I more or less have the upper hand, so let me enjoy!) [:D]

Oh, on next turn the 32nd Army will from two Rifle Corps.

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randallw -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/19/2012 11:40:52 PM)

All those swamps and heavy forest hexes are bad for tank fightin' [:'(]




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/21/2012 11:46:28 PM)

Turn 106

24 June 1943


Oh well, finally something worth mentioning! [8D]

Revenge starts rite now![sm=00000622.gif]

P.S.: geez! I thought I would never be uploading again the bears & girl pic from hell! About time!

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/21/2012 11:58:54 PM)

Me hordes busted two holes N of Voronezh and bang... two tank armies advanced. I know he will certainly counter-attack, but still, there is NOTHING behind these trapped enemy units (I used the recon planes to death). There are armored hordes to the north and south. I'm certain he will gather them.

He will possibly isolate the 5=5 tank corps you see on the screenshot.

But I am massing forces here as well (61st Army and the tank army I had in the south: Operation Crazy Anatoly; and of course artillery divisions) to strike again on next turn.

One thing is certain: there will NOT be German fortified hexes in this place... [;)] So the better...

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sillyflower -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/23/2012 10:40:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus



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Well, if the Germans finally do teach you to drink tea properly (after you have paid the proper taxes on it of course), the means by which they achieve that improvement in your manners will have been justified.




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/23/2012 5:32:19 PM)

Tea!!?? *grabs the PPshina* Not a chance! Coffee guy here! Until I die [8D]




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/23/2012 5:55:05 PM)

Anyways, in the south, as I had suspected, he used his armored units and trashed the 5th Tank Army.

We can count 4 Pz Divisions + 1 Mot Division...

Plus the armored hordes he's dispatched to protect the Finns, Leningrad approaches (6 Pz Divisions at least + a couple a Mot divisions)...

That means...

This dozen of powerful units are NOT in the vicinity of the enemy units I would love [sm=innocent0001.gif] to annihilate [sm=00000055.gif]

So let's see what he can muster!

edit: pre Soviet moves

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/23/2012 5:55:51 PM)

South, end. The two reserve armies helped to trash one panzer division + one motorized division. So far he's preserving his mobile units therefore only his infantry is getting some stick (which they 120% deserve, by the way). And we can't have that! So I'm happy if the turtle shows its head!

I also predict he will strike again... or... will he send some of these hordes to help the enemy units I plan to annihilate? [:D]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/23/2012 6:51:18 PM)

And in the center (or main operation Crazy Ivan) grinding continues. In fact the enemy units I am trying to encircle are almost outside of the offensive area. But... opportunity appeared and of course I have to take it.

It is clear that he has massed his forces in the main area. Plus the powerful units he is diverting to other fronts (north and south) that inevitably leads to weak spots.

By the way, I think I will send one of the shock armies (fighting some miles up north in the main offenive) to Tamboy area. Maybe I will even send two. The blood in the water...

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/23/2012 7:10:36 PM)

And finally up north. It is clear that I won't be advancing towards the Volkhovo hex thing. His armored units in swamp hexes give him way too strong defensive CVs. And of course I will NOT bring more units.

As I had said, the primitive plan was simply to have a good laugh (no kidding [:D]). But of course... cause => consequence (which I did not bother to consider [:D]). And the "consequence" here is half a dozen powerful mobile units that could be in more dangerous places! Like er... west of Tamboy, where I'm hoping to swallow some units.

So for all I care these armored hordes can stay in the north. So I better keep the tank army and the two Stavka reserve armies here.

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randallw -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/23/2012 11:06:58 PM)

I also used to believe that city is named Tamboy, but it may actually be Tambov.




Klydon -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/24/2012 5:05:21 PM)

Interesting that he has quite a few SS divisions broken down. I would think the day of breaking down motorized/panzer forces would be past in terms of either having them in the line or using them as reserves.

Pound away Mr Russian; it is what you do best. [:D]




smokindave34 -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/24/2012 7:10:50 PM)

Also keep in mind that those SS units will be transferred from the east front soon. If you can push through in that area to a point where there are no forts you may be able to make some serious progress. The other advantage you will have is that Marquo will have to re-deploy his already thin panzers to that area.




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/26/2012 3:55:36 PM)

Oops, you're indeed correct, Randall. It's Tambov. Now just let's hope there will be a Tambov Chainsaw Massacre! And many others for that matter!

Klydon, yes, I have to keep charging like a bull [:D]

Smokindave, thanks for this SS units transfered thing. Perhaps I should open a fresh scenario and check the Axis scheduled withdrawals! June 1943... Operation Husky will soon start -the mini second front that is...

Anyway I think Marquo (he hasn't sent the turn yet: he's carefully thinking & preparing his revenge, no doubt [:D]) will strike back and reinforce this part of the front. But this should weaken other parts of the front. In theory.




Wuffer -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/29/2012 6:48:25 AM)

hmmm, maybe you should give him the illusion he could just contain the mess instead of pulling back? ;-)))
IMHO he is seriously overextended - did he have a second line?




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo! (11/29/2012 6:46:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wuffer
hmmm, maybe you should give him the illusion he could just contain the mess instead of pulling back? ;-)))
IMHO he is seriously overextended - did he have a second line?


The thing is I want him to pull back or I will never get to Berlin [:)] Oh well, perhaps I will never get there, but as I had said I am assuming / pretending I "can".

Anyway, he possibly thinks he can more or less contain my hordes. And maybe he is correct.

No, no proper second line where I striked. The battle icons (of the screenshot) show units already trashed (first line). Retrashed that is [:D]

Let's see what can (or cannot) be done on the next turns though [8D]




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