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StarWolf -> Storyline question (12/9/2011 2:40:42 AM)

How can I play the original storyline without playing the Shakturi expansion storyline? On the Victory Conditions screen when you start a new game there are two checkboxes, one to include the original storyline and the second to include the events for the Shakturi expansion. Shouldn't I be able to control it by checking or unchecking these?

In two straight games I have checked the first box (original storyline) and unchecked the second Shakturi storyline box but both times I have investigated things early in-game that have appeared to open the Shakturi storyline. It's always a message about the Shaktur Axis arriving in our galaxy and working to overthrow all empires in the area. That doesn't sound like the original storyline. Since I unchecked the Shakturi checkbox shouldn't this bit not be showing up?

Is this a bug or am I just doing something wrong?



Nedrear -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 2:48:25 AM)

No the original storyline tells you about the old war and leads you to old wartechs. It will NOT let the Shakturi spawn. Thats what the expansion is for. The basic story is the same... it's like a chapter in books.



StarWolf -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 3:04:08 AM)

Well, I unchecked the Shakturi story option in the setup and I'm still getting it anyway. This must be a bug then.



martok -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 2:18:01 PM)

Nope, it's not a bug. (Read on....)




quote:

ORIGINAL: StarWolf

It's always a message about the Shaktur Axis arriving in our galaxy and working to overthrow all empires in the area. That doesn't sound like the original storyline.

Actually, that *is* the original storyline. (That's what Nedrear was trying to tell you.) I still have just vanilla DW, and what you've described is exactly the same storyline I get when I play.





Gelatinous Cube -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 2:20:30 PM)

Yes. Original storylines include (as far as I know) the following:

Ship Debris Fields
World Destroyer
Lots of Hints about Galactic History
A few seemingly randomish events (probably generated by exploration) affecting the morale of a few races.
Some lost tech (Death Ray) to find

RotS Storyline includes:

Ancient Guardians
The Freaking Shakturi are Coming



StarWolf -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 2:30:09 PM)

THANK YOU!!!

I was going nuts trying to figure out what was wrong. [:)]




Shark7 -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 2:33:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: martok

Nope, it's not a bug. (Read on....)




quote:

ORIGINAL: StarWolf

It's always a message about the Shaktur Axis arriving in our galaxy and working to overthrow all empires in the area. That doesn't sound like the original storyline.

Actually, that *is* the original storyline. (That's what Nedrear was trying to tell you.) I still have just vanilla DW, and what you've described is exactly the same storyline I get when I play.





Yeah, the only difference is that the Shakturi don't spawn on map when you uncheck the ROTS storyline. You still get all the ruins and events, just no big bad bugs trying to wipe you out.



Gelatinous Cube -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 2:35:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: StarWolf

THANK YOU!!!

I was going nuts trying to figure out what was wrong. [:)]




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Fideach -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 2:47:26 PM)

Speaking of "The Freaking Shakturi are Coming", how do you trigger that event? I have yet to get to actually fight them. I've gotten the World Destroyer, the history of who fought who and on whos side. The refugee ships, the refugee bases, found the "Way of the Ancients", etc. But they never show up.



Canute0 -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 3:06:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Gelatinous Cube
RYes. Original storylines include (as far as I know) the following:

Ship Debris Fields
World Destroyer
Lots of Hints about Galactic History
A few seemingly randomish events (probably generated by exploration) affecting the morale of a few races.
Some lost tech (Death Ray) to find


Nope the lost techs arn't part of any storyline not the original not the Shakturi.
Lost tech is allways found at the Ruins, you even get them whithout these storyline, its just randowm.




Gelatinous Cube -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 3:11:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fideach

Speaking of "The Freaking Shakturi are Coming", how do you trigger that event? I have yet to get to actually fight them. I've gotten the World Destroyer, the history of who fought who and on whos side. The refugee ships, the refugee bases, found the "Way of the Ancients", etc. But they never show up.


Well, I'm gonna say it, but it'll be in Spoilers. Because this is a really cool thing to have happen if you DON'T know its coming! And since spoiler tags don't seem to work (or I can't figure out how to do them on this forum) I will just create a link to an image of a word document showing what I was planning on typing in spoiler tags (jerry-rigging the internet.. a valuable 21st century skill):

Spoilers and Stuff

I have never won this storyline. Never. I'm sure plenty of people have, but I find it incredibly challenging, on top of the fact that it only rarely shows up in my games (Victory Time Limit usually set to 99 years, Game Time Limit usually disabled).

I know I missed a ton of stuff, so if someone who knows more would like to elaborate more, by all means! Also, maybe some strategies for beating them.. so far I've not succeeded.

quote:

Nope the lost techs arn't part of any storyline not the original not the Shakturi.
Lost tech is allways found at the Ruins, you even get them whithout these storyline, its just randowm.


Good to know! Do you know if the government types are affected at all? It seems like when I play with Storylines off, I get the special governments (Way of Darkness, Way of Ancients) frequently, while I can't remember ever finding them once when storylines are on.



Fideach -> RE: Storyline question (12/9/2011 3:14:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Gelatinous Cube


quote:

ORIGINAL: Fideach

Speaking of "The Freaking Shakturi are Coming", how do you trigger that event? I have yet to get to actually fight them. I've gotten the World Destroyer, the history of who fought who and on whos side. The refugee ships, the refugee bases, found the "Way of the Ancients", etc. But they never show up.


Well, I'm gonna say it, but it'll be in Spoilers. Because this is a really cool thing to have happen if you DON'T know its coming! And since spoiler tags don't seem to work (or I can't figure out how to do them on this forum) I will just create a link to an image of a word document showing what I was planning on typing in spoiler tags (jerry-rigging the internet.. a valuable 21st century skill):

Spoilers and Stuff

I have never won this storyline. Never. I'm sure plenty of people have, but I find it incredibly challenging, on top of the fact that it only rarely shows up in my games (Victory Time Limit usually set to 99 years, Game Time Limit usually disabled).

I know I missed a ton of stuff, so if someone who knows more would like to elaborate more, by all means! Also, maybe some strategies for beating them.. so far I've not succeeded.


Okay, thanks! Pretty much what I've read so far about them. I just can't ever seem to get lucky in the regards of triggering there arrival.



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