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Midas -> Ship designs again (12/10/2011 11:38:41 AM)

I'm sorry to raise this again but it's driving me absolutely MAD!

Please, any ships manually created in red, just update the existing components and always show them on the latest design screen until removed by the player DO NOT START DELETING EXISTING COMPONENTS, or ship designs created by player.

That's it, nice and simple want to update your manually created ship? Just highlight ship classes to update as now and hit "upgraded selected designs" which update any existing components but does not add or remove any, please.

For me ship design is just so broken as to be unusable, I know that's me and probable not for everyone.

Ship designs, is for me a large part of the game... unfortunately it just drives me totally mad, sorry.

Sorry about the rant!

Still playing though.



Evrett -> RE: Ship designs again (12/10/2011 2:02:07 PM)

There are 3 screens of ship designs have you checked for your missing designs under the non-obsolete screen? I've never had it delete designs before. Not sure what you mean by components.

You can also turn off automated ship design in the empire policy screen..which I do for the most part since I prefer my own designs. You can turn it back on, run a month, then immediately off again when you want the Ai's opinion of what a certain ship should look like later down the road.  



cookie monster -> RE: Ship designs again (12/10/2011 2:18:05 PM)

No ship designs have been deleted.

The default view is show latest designs

Seceond view is show non obsolete designs.

The design window is ok and packs alot of information, it is far from broke, but requires some experience to use.

Just keep on clicking away and you'll learn it.



Midas -> RE: Ship designs again (12/10/2011 3:47:07 PM)


Hmm

Well ok, not deleted but superseded by the AI design ships which it then proceeds to refit your entire fleet too!

I’ve seen my 7 Rail Gun designed Destroyer turn into the a basic 4 Max blaster weakling, it sticks Troop pods back on, and always removes Heavy Rail Guns in favour of the basic Rail Guns.

I could go on but thanks to Evrett for a great work around.

quote:

You can also turn off automated ship design in the empire policy screen..which I do for the most part since I prefer my own designs. You can turn it back on, run a month, then immediately off again when you want the Ai's opinion of what a certain ship should look like later down the road.


Sorry to whinge, but I find it really frustrating when I discover it’s refitted my ships into something completely different than my manually created designs.

Thx Evrett great Idea.





Canute0 -> RE: Ship designs again (12/10/2011 5:56:57 PM)

Its an Auto Designer, not my perfect custom designer.

When you design your own ship, you need to be care about it too.
The Upgrade button or Auto designer install the "best" tech but not allways the tech you prefer for that ship.
The Auto Designer never upgrade your ship by its own, he will create/update some of his owns.

When you start to design your own ships, you should turn of these automation and start to be care about the other ships too, maybe just hit the upgrade button for the private ships.




the1sean -> RE: Ship designs again (12/10/2011 6:14:08 PM)

Erik and Elliot have stated ship design is getting a massive overhaul in the second patch for Legends, so we should see Beta versions of it pretty soon knowing how hard Elliot is working!



Midas -> RE: Ship designs again (12/10/2011 6:54:57 PM)

Thx People



balto -> RE: Ship designs again (12/12/2011 2:38:04 AM)

quote:

When you start to design your own ships, you should turn of these automation and start to be care about the other ships too, maybe just hit the upgrade button for the private ships.


That is how I do it (for private). It is good to see I am not alone.

I think we all echo the feeling that we wish we could custom design all of our ships, and have the AUTO UPDATE only do minor tweaks (better fuel tanks, reactors, engines, cargo, etc..,) for ships that we designate and not REMOVE and ADD stuff like it does now. This Adding and Removing stuff wrecks everything and requires those of that Custom design to keep an eye on ALL builds at ALL times.

Legends is still awesome, but this sure could avoid a lot of micro if it was tweaked.



Gelatinous Cube -> RE: Ship designs again (12/12/2011 5:28:13 AM)

I built a Silvermist Hunter-Killer-type-destroyer-thing and the AI never force-upgraded them. The entirety of the rest of my fleet was on auto. My design was eventually left in the out-dated section, but it never retrofitted these destroyers to the AI-designed variety. Perhaps because I never set that particular fleet of ships to auto?



Gray Death -> RE: Ship designs again (12/12/2011 6:10:56 AM)

wohoo, that a very good thing, i love to design ships :)



Chet Guiles -> RE: Ship designs again (12/13/2011 11:09:03 PM)

YES!



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